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Post by auntym on Jul 25, 2012 12:35:32 GMT -6
www.ufodigest.com/article/what-are-alien-abductions-all-about What Are Alien Abductions All About?[/color] By Paul Schroeder The Bumps of Critters, in the Night: What Alien Abductions Are All About "All truth passes through three (3) stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." – Arthur Schopenhauer” I imagine strongly that I am just dreaming, but I am again awake in another dimension, unsure of what reality is. Within a blackness, a voice intones, resonant and deeply bass, over and over and over and over: "What a beautiful child, such a lovely child." A deep operatic voice intones: "What a lovely child, such a beautiful child." Over and over and over, again. Suddenly, I am on foot, merged into a multi -structured scenario, a facsimile reality, a 3-D holograph. I am surrounded by people craning their necks in a crowded street scene; just ahead of me, off scene, trumpets blare, snare drums tattoo into a marching rhythm. I am drawn ahead to a parade. I move swiftly forward, now purposefully striding, popcorn strewn sidewalks crunching beneath my feet, cotton candy wafting a cloying sweetness to my nostrils, on the breeze. Just ahead, the excited blare of trumpets grows louder. A murmur of crowds, deeply lined on both sides of the avenue, expectantly crane their necks and heads above me, taller than I am. The idea strikes me that I will likely miss this parade, that it will go down the avenue unobserved by me; the growing din of the tattoo of drums, and this precise worry, combine to urge and propel me forward. I push through the towering crowd. I am holding little hands, pulling along two children, one in each hand, as I rush forward, expectantly eager, with an urgency that these two very small children experience the brassy, colorful thrill and panache of a marching band parade. In my right hand is the palm of a human child, perhaps, five years old, wiry and muscular with blond hair and bluest eyes, a robust human child. In my other hand, I grasp a small, withered hand, of an odd looking, frail, non-human child, who has large black almond-shaped eyes, very long, skinny arms and legs, a sickly, grey tubular creature-child who struggles, but who cannot keep up. I sweep this odd child up onto my shoulders to allow it to see the parade ahead and to carry it ; I can feel its joy radiate as a strong psychic wave. I look again, mildly curious and more critical, the dream fading. It is handicapped, an ailing entity, sadly listless and oddly lifeless. CONTINUE READING: www.ufodigest.com/article/what-are-alien-abductions-all-about
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Post by paulette on Jul 26, 2012 0:29:34 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2012 2:03:39 GMT -6
I've read this before somewhere Aunty... I think you posted it a couple years ago. Thanks for the refresher though...
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Post by auntym on Jul 26, 2012 13:50:11 GMT -6
I've read this before somewhere Aunty... I think you posted it a couple years ago. Thanks for the refresher though... i don't remember this article lorelei.... maybe it was another one about the reptilians ? ....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2012 14:53:10 GMT -6
The reason why I recognized this story is the first few lines:
The reason why I remember it is I have had dreams before where someone was telling me the same thing...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2012 21:39:28 GMT -6
I thought the same thing; that I had read this before. . . and the article claims "1 day, so many hours ago". The whole thing was very familiar.
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Post by randy on Aug 11, 2012 22:58:11 GMT -6
What I saw by direct observation he tasks in the grey base were divided about equally between building UFOs and the breeding progarm. they were also producing a large number of baby greys. The breeding progarm is hugely improtant to them and was started by them as soon as possible. I have never seen any children related to me produced by this program, They wanted my cooperation willingly for some reason not just an unwilling subject but they wanted me fully committed to this. Down the street from me a girl my age had a tremendous IQ and i have often wondered if we had married our kids would have been awesome. Perhaps we did have kids in the base. I suspect some things about why the training I was given but that could be wrong yet.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2012 23:55:05 GMT -6
After years to reflect..and this forum has helped a lot..I think abduction is about curiosity..them trying to understand what makes some of us 'different'. They are attracted to some of us because we project something they receive and they want to play with it. It sure seems now like we have a lot more in common than we thought awhile back. I think it's much more simple than we've been trying to make it. No great agenda..they just want to experiment on us. It sure is pointing that way.
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Post by plutronus on Aug 12, 2012 15:21:15 GMT -6
A couple of abduction stories, both are acquaintances...
A friend of mine, who in the past frequently wrote a column for 'UFO Magazine', was at one juncture, a multiple ET abductee. Not particularly psychic, anymore than most females of the Human specie. Initially she had no interest in ET subjects. Just a normal gal, pretty, smart, going to school, etc. During one long period where she had not been dating anyone, while studying for her masters in literature, she became ill, having symptoms of 'morning-sickness'. It became so severe and frequent that she went to see her doctor, who informed her, that she was pregnant!! "Doctor, this is not possible, I have not been dating since I started school two years ago!" The doctor said, 'sure, I understand' and sent her home. Three months later, the baby disappeared. No bleeding, no miscarriage, it just disappeared. Around this time, she began to experience headaches, and finding blood on her pillows, especially around the left side of her head. And the dreams of grey spiders hanging from ceilings. She became so depressed that she went to see a psychologist, who, happened to be an ET abduction therapist. Over a period of time, the therapist came to the conclusion that the journalist was being abducted. This revelation was also supported through hypnotic regression. In fact, the information revealed was that she had been inseminated (becoming pregnant) during an alien abduction and in the 2nd trimester, the baby, during a subsequent abduction had been removed from her body. Diminishing in time the frequency of the abductions subsided. Six years later the blood began appearing on her pillows again, headaches and the spiders were revisiting her dreams. During one abduction, she was brought to consciousness. She found herself aboard an alien craft, surrounded by half-Human half-Grey appearance 'hybrid' children. One in particular stood out, and was brought to her. She was 'informed' telepathically that she was its mother. Periodically the Human mothers have hold their child, else they don't properly develop.
Another lady whom I met, being a member of the same Mystical Qabalah School we attend, and someone who has never shown any interest in ET subjects. Everyone knows I'm an ET investigator. She and I are distant acquaintances, I see her around. She, being a middle aged woman, 50ish, not unpleasant to look up, but definitely in the Saturn-return period of her life. After one long period of absence, I happened to see her in the Temple, she made a bee-line for me. She asked me to step outside, so that we could talk privately in the rose-garden, where there are nice benches upon which to sit. Outside she told me a strange story. She said, that she began to have dreams where she was being placed upon cold, metal tables, which she likened to autopsy carving tables, with the little drain depressions along the edge, for the blood to be collected in the bucket below. In these dreams, she was often surrounded by little strange men, grey in appearance, and that when they moved, did so 'jerkily', somewhat insect like. One particular dream, she awakened, upon one of these tables, and that the little Grey men had cut her up into pieces, into blocks. She felt very cold, and she beseeched one nearby, "Oh, please, you must put me back together again, please", the Grey, smiling telepathically, said, "everything is all-right" and with that she saw a flash of light, awakening back in her bedroom. She noticed burning sensation between her legs. Sitting on a toilet, using mirror and a flashlight, she peered at herself "down-there", she could see that it was all reddish looking. She made an appointment, and went to see her doctor, the man who had delivered her babies in the past. The doctor, putting her up in the stirrups, examining, asked her, "Dear, when did you have the surgery?", She said, "What surgery?", The doctor, "your clitoris?", She said, "What? What do you mean?", He said, you had your clitoris removed, why?" She said, "I've not had any surgeries!", He said, "Yes you did, in fact it was very recent....two or maybe three weeks ago!!"
I introduced the gal to a local ET abduction clinic which is in the Laurel Cyn area of California. Another strange ET abduction story. Does this sound like experimentation? Oh, she is a Mystical Qabalah student.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2012 17:40:11 GMT -6
They removed her clitoris?!?!
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Post by randy on Aug 12, 2012 23:21:27 GMT -6
I have never gotten involved in any odd religions beyond martial arts and study of the Samurai way of thinking. Studying the sciences 11 years in college wipes out anything beyond only the facts. I know what I saw and experienced and I am sure much bigger stuff remains hidden in my memory yet. The basics are that they are building a fleet of UFOs, they are breeding more greys and they are trying to get a new species of human being probably crossed with the greys. where does that lead one? Why a fleet of UFOs how many do they need before the number becomes a threat. In the 1950s as a kid I lay on a school ground and watched about 60 fly over then that long ago. Where were they going that 60 could land together unseen? They had 4 babies to an incubator and only a few incubators were lighted when I saw the grey babies. They had banks of dark incubators and room enough to double that number of incubators. how many thousands of greys have they produced since then and where are they? Finally it seems they are still trying to get a perfect hybrid. Why? If you were to invade the best army is one that is at home on earth adapted to its environment. Greys appear not to be able to stand sun light to me. Is that the reason to create a hybrid so they do not need an environmental suit to be out in the day time. Then what happens folks
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Post by plutronus on Aug 12, 2012 23:24:34 GMT -6
[/color] By Paul Schroeder The Bumps of Critters, in the Night: What Alien Abductions Are All About "All truth passes through three (3) stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." – Arthur Schopenhauer” I imagine strongly that I am just dreaming, but I am again awake in another dimension, unsure of what reality is. Within a blackness, a voice intones, resonant and deeply bass, over and over and over and over: "What a beautiful child, such a lovely child." A deep operatic voice intones: . . <<deletia>> . . I look again, mildly curious and more critical, the dream fading. It is handicapped, an ailing entity, sadly listless and oddly lifeless. CONTINUE READING: www.ufodigest.com/article/what-are-alien-abductions-all-about[/quote]Hi AuntyM,
As a matter of reference, the artist renditions depicted above are not 'Human Hybrids' as may be inferred by the glyphs inclusion with the story. According to (non-Ickey) sources, the image are of 'Technician Class Reptilians'. The images, were originally drawn by an artist for Pamela Stonebrook, as I understand things. Its my opinion, the image originally appeared on the InterNet in 1995, on Pamela's Reptilian information website.
The last time I saw Pamela Stonebrook, incidentally, she was the 'star' ET-contactee that was being paraded around by Dr. John Mack and his collaborative associate, a special Monsignor, sent and assigned to study Ms Stonebrook, by order of the Vatican. I was in this entourage, as I was one of the 'experts' who were invited to attend the funding festivity by John Mack's funding organizers. The social was held in a mansion over-looking the Malibu Beach area in Malibu California and was attended by hundreds of the local wealthy. The event transpired about two years before Dr. Mack's fatal accident in the UK.
Re; Pamela Stonebrook, she's the fairly good-looking white-haired gal who states that she experiences quasi-physical, but not undesired sexual-encounters with the Reptilian males depicted in the picture above. Pamela had on a number of occasions attended my 11:11 ET-Contactee / Abductee-Experiencer / Planetary-UpShift parties which I hosted in the mid 90s to early 2ks. Ms. Stonebrook's story is a very interesting one. She has on a number of occasions shared her experiences with me. These stories are truly worthy of a long post in of themselves.
I stopped hosting the 11:11 parties due to psychic attacks that were being directed at my person. These attacks became so severe, that I was forced to also stop my investigative efforts. I went from being an in semi-retirement career engineer, wholly dedicated, a full-time ET Investigator to someone who was not 'allowed' to think about the ET subjects in the course of a few weeks and it was all due to the fear of suffering a significant psychic reprisal often accompanied by quasi-physical destructive phenomenon. After a time, the attacks arrived in frequency and seemed almost as though were being delivered via a schedule, each incredibly powerful, they seemed to be powered by 220VAC with a 60 cycle AC buzz-like quality. All increasing in both magnitude and frequency, all of the psychic attacks were Reptilian. I can still see the eyes. I too would be dead, if it were not for the loving long-term efforts of a Qabalah Mystic student who, without charge, psychically worked with me, every night and day, holding me in a psychic ball of Love, shielding me, teaching me how to defend myself. She did this for three years. She saved my a.s.s. God Bless Milicent.
Truth be known, all of the members of my (secret) science group who were active participants (all but one were Ph.D. scientists), they were also attacked. This singular event caused their subsequent withdrawal from our ET investigation organization. My organization literally fell apart within a 24 hour period. At the time no one understood what was happening. Two of the most important and active members, recently within this past year have died as result of the psychic attacks on their persons. The attacks were done in a manner, deem-able as being 'normally caused' deaths. Interestingly, they both died of brain illnesses. One was a prof of psychology (a well known ET proponent scientist within the SETI community, which is where we met), died from a rare, progressive brain illness which exhibits extremely aggressive yet similar symptomology with Multiple-Sclerosis (but not) and the other was a Jewish psychic and Remote-Viewer, who was at the time of his attacks, the Chief Engineer, and a broadcast engineer in a Hollywood edit facility, --he died of brain cancer. The tumor formed following the outline of the injury site imposed by the quasi-physical phenomenon he suffered during attack. He was alone, inside his home, located 25 miles from the nearest neighbor, out in the middle of rural Palm Desert (Ca, usa) area. His home is inside a locked, 25ft high chain-link fence, razor wire topped, to prevent the mtn lions and coyotes from jumping inside the compound to eat his dogs. His attack from behind was preceded by a bright flash, after which he awakened hours later, suffering from a concussion and lying in a pool of head injury blood. He was a close friend of mine. He and I were very active together in the contact experiment phases. We were invited to meet with Robert Bigelow for some of our efforts.
It has only been recent, that I have been able to 'think' about the ET presence subject without suffering significant Reptilian reprisal. I still have to be careful. There are certain things about which, I am not allowed to think let alone, recount.
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Post by plutronus on Aug 13, 2012 0:06:19 GMT -6
They removed her clitoris?!?! >:( Yes, LoreLei,
Strange, very strange, indeed?
Why would they do that?
And this is a woman who is past her child bearing stage. These are puzzle pieces, and whose questions are the answers to other puzzles posed.
So what are the questions posed?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2012 9:36:41 GMT -6
Don't need a clitoris to have children anyway..that is a surgery practiced right here at home on occasion. IF...gray's were experimenting in that fashion..it would seem they want to 'understand' the function of some part they don't possess. The 'ability' to orgasm is one that only one other earth animal has. The pig although some suggest dolphins do also (which are also bi-sexual as adolescents). Our own world tends to be more complex than some see. Yep..sounds like experimentation to me. I still..don't believe there are hybrids that have lived...but I'm influenced by what the 'alien' Han has said about those.
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Post by plutronus on Aug 13, 2012 17:14:59 GMT -6
Don't need a clitoris to have children anyway..that is a surgery practiced right here at home on occasion. IF...gray's were experimenting in that fashion..it would seem they want to 'understand' the function of some part they don't possess. The 'ability' to orgasm is one that only one other earth animal has. The pig although some suggest dolphins do also (which are also bi-sexual as adolescents). Our own world tends to be more complex than some see. Yep..sounds like experimentation to me. I still..don't believe there are hybrids that have lived...but I'm influenced by what the 'alien' Han has said about those. Hi JoKelly,
Did ya hear all the psychic clamor out there? 'They take the clitoris?!'
>Yep..sounds like experimentation to me.
It could be? It is definately strange.
I do hear what you say, I suspect, and things are very confusing I'll admit. Then there seems to be the fact, in my opinion, that ET, they do lie to us. I believe that ET has lied to me. But I ask, why do they lie? What is it that everyone is hiding from us? The military, ET, the secret scientific ET groups....what? . . . I was taught by a Hybrid-Grey. I swear to God, JoKelly, I can see It now, off in a little dark area in the corner of my mind's eye. Its always there, just out of the corner. I don't dare to peer into Its eyes. I am not afraid, but I also know better. Back when I was a naive', "ET Phone Home" newbie, I invited Greys to teach me. The Hybrid-Grey appeared to me, at first like a grey spider, hanging from the ceiling in my dreams, no doubt, my inner being warning me, the only way it knew how, 'Run', its gonna wrap ya in silk like a burrito! But as I far as I could determine, it didn't't eat me. No, instead, over a series of dreams, It 'told' me, via the knowingness common in telepathy..via mind resonance, that the reason that they are Hybridized, is for the purpose of enabling them to operate separately from the collective of Greys which enables them to interact with Humans. Our consciousness is apparently unable to cope with the power of multiple Grey consciousness. I tend to believe this, as it seems that is what may have happened to my Mother in the mid-1960s. She flipped out, although she was a functional, trained Rosicrucian telepath, when the three Greys visited her, each night. There is no question about it, Mom, flipped out, so much so, that it required six months of chemicals and the repeated applications of electro-shock therapy, to switch off her alien contact psychosis. Thats a matter of public record should anyone care to check.
Derived from what I was 'informed', it seems that they are much more hive-mind oriented earlier in their development cycle than Humans are and because of this, they must 'tune-down' their complex psi-field interaction to interface with Humans. This action prevents us from being harmed when they interact with us. The question is why do they persist to interact with us, without making overt contact with us?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2012 18:57:15 GMT -6
Plutronus..I wouldn't argue with anyone else's experience or abduction. I do argue with mine all of the time though. Was it real? Did it happen as I remember it..and am still remembering. OR...was it all stuffed in my brain exactly as I was wanted to remember it? Are we given false memories as a part of some psychic control of theirs? Does Randy remember an entire childhood of alien interaction..or...does he remember what was put there for him to remember. Do some people see goody-two-shoes aliens from beta centauri and some see evil reptillians or..are they all projections. What if there is only one race making everyone think there are so many..giving horrible or wonderful experiences..making the heavens gate kids kill themselves..just for fun. Yep..to my minds eye..I was abducted and visited once before that and my experience was not a good one...but is that what happened or has some master mentalist..provided me with horrible memories as an experiment? To be honest..way too many conflicting stories add up to an answer somewhere..I think. Or..we'd be in danger of running into some alien every time we turned a corner and maybe we do. If there is one race that can do all of this..they don't need to invade..they already have us.
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Post by god on Aug 14, 2012 13:56:42 GMT -6
Plutronus..I wouldn't argue with anyone else's experience or abduction. I do argue with mine all of the time though. Was it real? Did it happen as I remember it..and am still remembering. OR...was it all stuffed in my brain exactly as I was wanted to remember it? Are we given false memories as a part of some psychic control of theirs? Does Randy remember an entire childhood of alien interaction..or...does he remember what was put there for him to remember. Do some people see goody-two-shoes aliens from beta centauri and some see evil reptillians or..are they all projections. What if there is only one race making everyone think there are so many..giving horrible or wonderful experiences..making the heavens gate kids kill themselves..just for fun. Yep..to my minds eye..I was abducted and visited once before that and my experience was not a good one...but is that what happened or has some master mentalist..provided me with horrible memories as an experiment? To be honest..way too many conflicting stories add up to an answer somewhere..I think. Or..we'd be in danger of running into some alien every time we turned a corner and maybe we do. If there is one race that can do all of this..they don't need to invade..they already have us. Jo, I’ve said it before. The Truth, like the finest diamond, has a thousand faces. People, depending on their own inner perception and background, tend to get distracted by the shiniest face, the one that reflects the brightest light. The one that appeals them most, and, in that process, they disregard duller faces that, if looked at carefully, may actually reflect their long awaited answer. The glow is usually less blinding on those faces. Sometimes it pays off to avoid looking at the shiniest face for a while and venture into what people may think is a darker side. Have you ever asked yourself how you got your shirt back on? GOD
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2012 14:07:40 GMT -6
So..if my face were shinier..I'd have attracted a handsome millionaire? As I've said before...people see...what they need to see. Sometimes it's just easier sometimes it's necessity of survival. I'm trying to allow for possibilities other than the obvious ones I see. Universe seems to have an endless supply of those if we want to look into corners. You don't know how many times I've wished that you were the one who takes up so much of my time in contemplation and prayer..a two way conversation would be a treat now and then..actually..I'm surprised I haven't gotten a bill for services rendered. ;D Namaste~
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Post by god on Aug 14, 2012 14:34:20 GMT -6
Probably not a handsome millionaire (they are pretty lousy at seeing the inner value of otherwise beautiful women, as the shine of gold blinds them), but a handsome good man.
...and don't worry, no bill is coming as prayer is nothing more than a conversation with your most beloved self. You would not bill yourself, would you?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2012 20:33:44 GMT -6
Well..we're such an interesting species because..we don't all share the same ideas. How we 'need' God to be..is a great part of who we are and even how we perceive the universe. I don't think there is a wrong path..and in mine, I wouldn't deify myself anymore than I would you I recognize..the 'spark' of God in you and in all life..myself included...but the creator I spend time with...is considerably more.
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Post by randy on Aug 22, 2012 0:55:04 GMT -6
As an idea perhaps what is going in abductions is the altering of the human race as we speak. the breeding program produces children that will grow into adults. These adults with altered genetics can be inserted into the population to change our genetic make up with out our being aware of it. Such things as strength of will, aggressiveness, territorial behavior etc can be breed out of us until we are soft and pliable for the plucking. Useful domestics so to speak. There appears to be genetic engineering among the greys with body types being related to job codes. I saw a human kitchen sink and cup boards in the base with a picture of farm scenes where the kitchen window would have been. It was not there for whimsy. Mostly likely it was to teach their children created by the breeding program how to act human in daily things. it was a training prop. In the barracks area where there were all white human beds complete with night stands and small lamps for each bed I never did clearly see who was sleeping in the beds. Could have been greys or it could have been hybrids. The sleepers on waking up hid from me. We have a big human population but a ticking time bomb could be being implanted in it as we speak
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2012 8:10:41 GMT -6
Why Randy? What is left that any intelligent race would want? Our air is poisoned with pollutants..our oceans filled with floating garbage..our animal and marine life dying. Our polar caps are dwindling and as a race we prefer taking drugs and doing as little as we have to do instead of fighting to fix anything. Maybe if they took over it would just be a blessing. Could they do much worse than we have? If they have worked to change everything for so bloody long..they can't be very smart..all they have to do is offer mankind some shiny new bauble and they'd give it away. Everyone wants to see conspiracies because they really think we have something valuable here? Or because that is the way THEY think? I think they come here and abduct people trying to figure out why we're so bloody stupid enough to destroy our planet and how maybe not to do it to theirs.
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Post by paulette on Aug 22, 2012 11:31:58 GMT -6
Any race of sentient beings who cross space have figured out how to marshall their energies and not destroy their planet. They may want another one. But if they are as evolved as is surmissed (crossing space, flying at high rates of speed and manueverability) they could have taken ours a long time ago.
No one is making us destroy our home EXCEPT that we are infected with the desire to have want we want, as much as we want (more than we need) without concern for future generations of people or any other beings on the planet. The history of humankind has been traveling and overwhelming the resident populations in the name of progress (and God) and short term satisfaction. That (more than any particular drug) is what we are addicted to. Having it and having it now. No more stalking and waiting patiently by the waterhole. Run the the whole herd off the cliff. And later - kill the last black rhino so that a man who can pay can believe that its horn will make him momentarily potent. Every direction I look, we are doing this. Owning private property means I can cut down and kill every living thing on it. Think about that. Poison the creek or cause it to dry up because the trees are gone? It's mine. I paid for it. Not just to live there - but to torture it if I want to. Put up a agro-business hog farm. Dump the offal into the local river. So that everyone can eat cheap bacon. But the water downstream is toxic.
It's what we do. I don't know what could be done to stop this trend. Possibly if there are UFO visitors, they don't know either.
Our kids aren't taught to guestion this mentality. Why should they be. We don't.
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Post by skywalker on Aug 22, 2012 14:57:46 GMT -6
Our kids aren't taught to question this mentality. Why should they be. We don't. If you weren't questioning that mentality would you have made the post that you just made? Obviously you are aware of the problems and trying to persuade others to become aware. I've heard Jo and others make similar posts so they must be thinking about it also. Personally, I think that a lot of people are. Conditions on the planet (at least certain parts of it) aren't as bad as they were 30 or 40 years ago when there was so much pollution that lakes were catching on fire and fish were jumping out of rivers because they could not stand to be in the toxic water. We don't have commercials like we used to have with that old indian dude crying about all of the garbage scattered all over the place. The roads and highways are much cleaner now than they were before. I think we are making progress in some areas. I have read many stories about abductees who were shown pictures and images of a dying earth...a planet overwhelmed with pollution and destroyed by nuclear wars. People fighting and killing each other because of racial prejudice or whatever. it's kind of interesting that the abductions reportedly started in the 1950s and 60s and it was that same the environmentalist movement, the civil rights movement and the anti-nuclear movement really got moving. Could those protest movements have been inspired or motivated by alien visitors? Or is it just human nature for some people to try to change the injustices that other humans create? Everybody wants to change the world...it's up to each individual person to decide whether the change is for better or worse.
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I agree Paulette..if they had ever wanted it..it would be theirs.
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Post by paulette on Aug 22, 2012 19:50:37 GMT -6
Skywalker - I get it and I do a few things to minimize my impact. But I don't REALLY GET IT. Because if I did, I would buy nothing from China. No extra stuff that pleases me but is not strictly necessary. I wouldn't have a fridge full of stuff - some local, some mass produced and moved hundreds of miles in trucks to get to me. I wouldn't EAT MEAT. Yummy pork that used to be a pig that couldn't even turn around. I'd be doing serious volunteer work. I'm half-awake at best.
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Post by randy on Aug 25, 2012 21:09:24 GMT -6
I am reminded of reading an account where a woman was shown a picture of families in a park like setting. They asked the woman to pick out the plants that looked human but were in fact inserted into our society by the greys. Unable to do so they them showed her who were the created beings intermingled with humans in the park. For all its faults it is still a beautiful planet. In mid winter I stood on the crest of the Brooks range in Alaska and looking out as far as I could see there was not a single other human there or a trace of us such as a road or telephone line. It is a strange feeling to realize how alone that is. Hiking the mtns in the desert I got into areas where probably no one had been in a hundred years or more if ever. I loved it. Point is there was no trace of us there. Why would the greys insert created beings into our society. One possibility is to interbreed with us and to change our DNA. nice places to live in the universe are probably not that common. Why do you assume they have not messed up their planet. Perhaps they pillage and move on like Mongols
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Post by sunbow on Aug 31, 2012 19:31:25 GMT -6
I agree Paulette, our urge to satisfy every desire we dream up is killing the planet that supports us. Perhaps the Aliens do not know what to do, because every solution has big karma. Reduce population? Change life style by eliminating free will? The only real solution is for us to grow up. Perhaps they are trying to teach us, but we just haven't learned fast enough. Love stronger than Self? I disagree with Sky on it looking environmentally better, I think that is just a fringe benefit from shipping industry to other parts of the world. We are in sad shape as a species. Its going to take a lot of love to break through the individualistic me - me society.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2012 9:09:20 GMT -6
I remember reading, that when the initial "alien contacts" were shown visions of our dying/being destroyed planet, that they also felt that they were given clear messages that they should be vegetarians.
Is this also what they were told?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2012 11:56:06 GMT -6
I've never felt any strong urge to be a vegetarian but physically I feel much better when I drop red meat from my diet. I eat some chicken and some fish but I haven't had red meat in a long time and everything seems to function better.
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