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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2012 23:00:33 GMT -6
Those who are supposed to 'perceive' this..do I guess. I've never had a doubt in my mind that I would continue...and that was just 'honed' with my heart surgery and NDE. It's funny though..I talk about it to anyone who is interested and some people are eagerly nodding and smiling that knowing smile while others have this mask of skepticism. Why wouldn't you want to believe in the first place? If you're wrong..well you'll know nothing anyway but if you believe..maybe it will influence the way you live the life you have..the way you follow your path. Usually when I see that stubborn set creep over someones face..I just pull back knowing that it isn't for them to know. And that is just the way it is. If we are meant to know a thing or to understand a thing or see a thing...we do. It will be presented to us where it's not in others. This too is some part of who we are. I'm finding myself constantly looking at the sky..day and night..no matter where I am..my eyes are just drawn up there...seeing in a new light..cloud patterns..stars..and looking for something. Anyone else pulled in that direction?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2012 1:57:25 GMT -6
I'm finding myself constantly looking at the sky..day and night..no matter where I am..my eyes are just drawn up there...seeing in a new light..cloud patterns..stars..and looking for something. Anyone else pulled in that direction? All the time,,,lol. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2012 6:13:22 GMT -6
There is a huge movement of 'mediumistic' style churches happing. Lots of book about reincarnation, etc. I used the phrasing of when it was reported to have happened before. Whitley and Annie Srieber talk about receiving many Communion Letters where the 'Visitors' accompanied the departed to bring a message. It is likely that an advanced race would know more about the realm of the dead. It is curious that Egyptians, Tibetans Balinese. and others had/have complex rituals for moving the soul along so that it does not hang out on this plane. How mush would our society change if the knowledge that the essence of a person as a sentient perceiver remains intact after the body-mind vessel dies? Related question: are some of the Watchers in a functional relationship with the dimension of the dead as part of their ordinary reality and does that explain some of their behavior an actions? I get the impression that they are very interested in our souls. But which "they" are we talking about? Again, I'm seeing the trend (now blatantly) to associate "Visitors" and the "dead". Trying to put it all together . Egypt holds more interest for me, just because I know more about their supposed "death rituals" I think. I need to learn a lot more about Tibet, and India. If we are talking about the same "they", I would like to say they are also interested in our human bodies. And then that thought leads to "nah, body parts are removed during Egypt death procedures, and the Indians literally burned to ashes their dead." (American Indians that I know of. Not to be confused with India). I have talked before on teor about people that wear talismans. And specifically how a pregnant lady told her daughter she couldn't go to the funeral or gravesite of a recently departed loved one because she was pregnant. Naturally, I'm thinking along the lines of if "they" want bodies, "they" should be more around before we age significantly, or die. I always appreciate your insights, Sunbow. You tend to put a more positive spin on something that I tend to go "ewwww" on. ;D.
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Post by sunbow on Nov 15, 2012 18:03:31 GMT -6
My impression is that they are more interested in the other dimensional sides of us, which we are only vaguely aware of. They may be trying to find a way to break our fixation with our bodies and open us to other aspects of reality which are not material. The reason people do not remember much may be because most of what is happening is not happening in the physical sense. Yes, they do exams and such, but that seems to be only one level of what they do. Perhaps there is a psychological impact in all that which they are intending and using.
I always try and look at this from different angles, since the straight forward analysis does not explain all the bizarre aspects.
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Post by auntym on Aug 5, 2013 11:33:56 GMT -6
theghostdiaries.com/exophilia-bizarre-stories-of-paranormal-and-extraterrestrial-sex/
Exophilia: Bizarre Stories of Paranormal and Extraterrestrial sexPosted by theghostdiaries Monday, August 5, 2013 Yes, there are people out there with some peculiar fetishes. Anyone who’s been chased by a furby can tell you that. But sexual obsessions with aliens, ghosts, and robots? Could take the cake. It’s known as exophilia and, with the exception of the robots, there is a vast body of historical anecdotes and psychological studies that have gone into accounting for it. Let’s take a look, shall we, at some of the most bizarre stories of paranormal and extraterrestrial sexual encounters: sex with aliens In his book Hair of the Alien, Peter Khoury claims to have had two alien abduction experiences. The primary encounter involved two naked Nordic-like aliens who telepathically and sexually assaulted Peter. He went public with physical evidence of the encounter, claiming to have a blonde hair strand from one of the aliens. What followed was the world’s first DNA analysis of a biological sample from an alleged alien abduction experience. As would be expected, the results of this DNA analysis have been hotly debated. In what is probably China’s best known alien abduction report, farmer Meng Zhaoguo claims that in 2010 he was visited by a 9 foot tall humanoid alien with 12 fingers and braided leg hair. He claims he went up into the hills to investigate what looked like a fallen aircraft when he was approached by the alien being. Meng and the alien had sex for 40 minutes while levitating in the air. The being returned that night to tell Meng she would bear his hybrid baby in 60 years. Police say Meng passed his lie detector test. CONTINUE READING: theghostdiaries.com/exophilia-bizarre-stories-of-paranormal-and-extraterrestrial-sex/
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Post by sunbow on Aug 5, 2013 18:58:30 GMT -6
Interesting, but I'm not sure of the reality. I believe they take sexual material. In doing so they may add layers of screen memories.
We know that myths (Genesis, Greek Gods, Hindu Gods, ...) all talk about aliens mating with humans, but again I wonder if they mate or scientifically create hybrids. To actually mate, the DNA would need to match exactly, since each partner adds one side or half of the genetic information. With the Genesis account there were genetic problems, but that could be science issues of actual mating issues. There are stories of giants documented in much later times, most who were hunted and killed.
I also have a sense that some of the sexual procedures are to shock our system, perhaps to prepare us for teh invasive nature of being around telepathic beings, or perhaps to stress us into a focus on sexuality in order for humanity to get a handle on its unbridled breeding.
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Post by paulette on Aug 5, 2013 21:56:34 GMT -6
How we all can spin our theories here. They have "romantic interest" (or we do) or they are just having sex or just checking out the equipment or gathering samples or....
If one is interested in Zakaria Sitchin, he quotes from pre-Bible scriptures - that the visitors found some of the daughters of man comely and lay with them. I don't find that hard to believe, no matter what the experience was for them. People have had sexual encounters with dolphin in the wild, and orcas in captivity (to obtain semen.) Some sheep herders had a special interest in some sheep and maybe cowboys far from home...Cattle, goats, dogs...have all been sexually experiemented with by humans (please don't make me cite this info but its around).
Why wouldn't aliens check us out in this way? If they read our minds they know that most of us (at least those below 40 or so) don't think of much besides sex. More hoping and wishing and anger because someone is unavailable is on the physic radio than anything else. Yes there are exceptions to this. I am talking generally here. But if a Muslim woman cannot leave the house unless swathed in black and in the company of a family member body guard, because she is too INCITING to the men around her - well that's what we are thinking about. Sex blah blah war sex.
It would seem that no one here has had that experience or, perhaps, wants to talk about it. That doesn't mean it hasn't happen to other people other times. Is it a practical scientific experiment? Probably not. Might it happen anyway? Hmmmmmmmmm.
Humans have written accounts of other-than-human sex since the beginning of our time. Encounters with demons, ghosts, mermaids and silkies. Encounters with fairies that left them out of their own time stream after spending a night at the party in the Hill. Vampires, shape-shifters, weir lovers...we humans seem to yearn to walk on the wild side. We even know now that homo sapiens mated with Neandertals and other branch of the human family in Asia, whose name I forget. Their DNA/RNA comes along with ours. From the very beginning of the story then...
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Post by sunbow on Aug 6, 2013 7:20:57 GMT -6
Thanks Paulette. I agree that the aliens which are somewhat humanoid (have similar enough body parts) probably did simply act on desire. Right now in human history there is a huge alien visitation occurring and although the numbers are not clear, there are many people being abducted and some type of sexual experience is included. Perhaps the dominant alien governing body (if there is one) sees us as so primitive, that abducting us for sexual pleasure is sanctioned. Although I can believe that this may happen in a few cases, my impressions and also many cases show sterile gathering of sexual material by beings who seem to think of us as dirty savage animals and not even potentially desirable.
There are many reports of huge hybrid breeding projects, but even this does not make sense, since from a few male abductions they can get enough seed to fertilize thousands of eggs. Statistics therefore imply they have yet another layer of intent. Perhaps as Stanton Friedman has suggested, they are monitoring the rate of increasing mutation. Some suggest humanity will become sterile in the near future (a few hundred or a thousand years). One in two thousand humans is born inter-sex. With our foolish nuclear energy and bomb policies, this could be much higher than it was a hundred years ago, we have no scientific data, but they most likely do.
I think the key factor is that human psychic radio is mostly filled with sexual content, as you stated. Humans in their prime probably are the strongest broadcasters and fill the PSI waves with sexual drama. Spiritual teachers have indicated that one must clear their head to perceive clearly and wake up, though tantra traditions exist in many traditions, including India, China Taoist, and Shamanic traditions to mention a few. Sacred Sexuality is something to consider, especially if sexuality creates a quantum entanglement of the participants. If these beings have been evolved for a long time, then they see things in completely different light than we do.
Scientifically there are threads of thought which deny the mechanistic material view of reality and state that consciousness is primary and experience creates reality. In quantum terms there is no world at large, no objective reality; rather perception impinges upon the energy field and forces it into form or a specific informational state. This agrees with the Shamanic and other traditions. Sexuality seems to be one aspect of life which is so much deeper than a material realm, touching the essence of our consciousness and for me is still one of the great mysteries which I believe humanity does not understand.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2013 9:39:34 GMT -6
Abducting us for sexual pleasure. Especially if that type of pleasure "memory" can be stored? Gosh, what movie was it. . . with Sandra Bullock's character just putting on a helmet? Lol. As much as "they" appear to be emotionless, I don't know if that's really true, or if its a mask.
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Post by niki on Aug 6, 2013 12:14:30 GMT -6
This is just bizarre. If 'they' are highly evolved scientifically 'they' certainly wouldn't need us to create a new species or preserve a bloodline (theirs or ours). Surely, they have enough samples by now. If 'they' are highly evolved spiritually this type of perversion makes no sense. Procreating with another species is considered perverse here on our own planet. It doesn't make sense to me that a highly evolved being would coerce another species(humans)to participate in a sexual exchange. Science certainly shouldn't require an actual sexual act, regardless of the scientific purpose. Romantic? No, just perverse and bizarre.
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Post by plutronus on Aug 6, 2013 13:26:30 GMT -6
I don't recall anything sexual going on when I got zapped. I don't really remember much of what happened though. Don't know if I would want to either.
I do remember reading in John Mack's book Abduction that some abductees had conscious memories of very romantic and sexually thrilling encounters with beautiful alien beings yet when put under hypnosis the romantic encounters actually turned out to be horrifying and humiliating taking of sperm and egg samples, usually by some painful mechanical process. It could be that the romantic encounters are just screen memories implanted by the abductors to mask what really happened.
All the more reason why I would not want to know...
Hi SkyWalker,
Got zapped? What do you mean? And no sex either!!? Hah hah hah..
Just how alien can it get?
Sometime around 2000? As a local area 'ET expert', I was invited to attend a fund raiser hosted in a billionaire's cliff-side mansion over-looking the Malibu Beach area for John Mack. I was one of several ET 'experts' tasked to aid the question and answering session of the wealthy, lay audience's questions regarding known ET behaviors. It was fun and I learned some new information from the other investigators. However, in the context of your post, SkyWalker, among John Mack's personal group, were two interesting people, one whom I knew from other occasions, and the other, surprisingly, was a special envoy assigned to study ET contactees. The envoy was sent by the Vatican. Unfortunately, his name escapes me, however, I was impressed by this fellow/ I remember him as being medium height, slender, his knowledge extremely diverse and very well educated, and was fascinatingly coutured. Also, he was fluent in 12 languages, overall he left me with the feeling that he was a very smart guy. Also with Dr. Mack was his 'star' contactee, Pamela Stonebrook. At times she attended my 11:11 parties which I hosted in my home twice per year from 1995 ~ 2001.
Pamela Stonebrook, is the renowned Reptilian lover. She was one of the featured sexual contacts portrayed in Dr. Mack's book. She told me the whole enchilada. She liked it and embraced as being great sex. She told me her red Reptilian lover eliminated his competition, her Human boyfriend by inducing cancer in him to which he succumbed.
My personal experience with so-called alien-sex is not what it appears as 'they' would have us remember, as you pointed out in your post. And yes, it is my opinion, that 'they' really do control our perception of reality.
A question arises....whose face is behind the Grey mask?
plutronus Red or Blue? Which pill y'all?
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Post by plutronus on Aug 6, 2013 14:05:52 GMT -6
This is just bizarre. If 'they' are highly evolved scientifically 'they' certainly wouldn't need us to create a new species or preserve a bloodline (theirs or ours). Surely, they have enough samples by now. If 'they' are highly evolved spiritually this type of perversion makes no sense. Procreating with another species is considered perverse here on our own planet. It doesn't make sense to me that a highly evolved being would coerce another species(humans)to participate in a sexual exchange. Science certainly shouldn't require an actual sexual act, regardless of the scientific purpose. Romantic? No, just perverse and bizarre. Hi There,
While the abduction processes were likely scientifically derived, they are not for the purpose of study, and is evidenced, as you say, it does not make sense.
Re; Alien sex...it isn't sex as we know it, although it feels like sex when experiencing the process, and it feels really good too. Apparently ET technicians do not know how our brains self-program, where the sense functions, and the psychic centers are located, anymore than Earth science knows. Each individual's brain self-wires itself, uniquely. No two brains are self-configured alike. They self-wire dependent upon many aspects of each individual's journey through life. ET probe our neuro-pathways by stimulating areas of the brain, while telepathicaly sensing our sensations of their probing. The sex-contact process is a brain-wiring mapping strategy, which is used to determine where the psychic sacral centers are located. These areas are energy junctures, links which may be accessed if the Human who is being probed, 'gives permission', by calling to the causer of the pleasure, which is instigated by the ET technician's stimulation of those areas of our brain. (It is also how they influence our actions by stimulating urges.) The probing is exactly like buzzing a circuit to create a map of unknown wiring. I watched the process psychically, as I was awake in Yetzirah when it was happening, and as the dummy I am sometimes I fell for it. I thought they were trying communicate with me, hah hah! Sh.it.
As for the abduction process in general, the evidence shows that there are many different agendas involved, one is certainly gene-pool maintenance, performance tuning, and is likely the impetus for ETs to expend the effort to implant screen-memories of the process so that we forget. The whole process is entirely conciousness based. They must cause us to forget, else we would develop countermeasures. While ET have been successful to influence Humans to think otherwise, keeping us confused and also to forget all throughout Human history, our current computers are not conscious and computers don't forget. Apparently computer content are not directly influencable by ET consciousness fiddling as is our genetically (via abduction tampering) tuned psi-neural-interface (brain) and fortunately there also appears to be interspeciel commensurability mismatch, else they would exhibit finer control granularity. We are beginning to awaken to their agendas as result of the Human invention of the digital information age. I speculate that Earth is likely entering a very dangerous period as a result. Richard Burke-Ward a BBC journalist wrote an article that predicts a civilization evolution 'reset' trigger level. Richard intelligently described monitored resource 'culture' assets' as having pre-defined trigger set-points, where after the asset may fully awaken if the level is surpassed, and the montoring controllers response should the set-point be breeched.
In a nutshell, it is my edified opinion, that these catz who own Earth (and us) harvest us.
And here all the scientist types speculate that it would be for science, heh heh...its just another form of grabbing a 'Burger & a bag of fries with an advanced alien technology twist, while ET work, using every trick in the Human behavior hand-book to keep us stupid.
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Post by niki on Aug 6, 2013 14:21:47 GMT -6
Hi There,
While the abduction processes were likely scientifically derived, they are not for the purpose of study, and is evidenced, as you say, it does not make sense.
Re; Alien sex...it isn't sex as we know it, although it feels like sex when experiencing the process, and it feels really good too. Apparently ET technicians do not know how our brains self-program, where the sense functions, and the psychic centers are located, anymore than Earth science knows. Each individual's brain self-wires itself, uniquely. No two brains are self-configured alike. They self-wire dependent upon many aspects of each individual's journey through life. ET probe our neuro-pathways, stimulating areas of the brain, while telepathicaly sensing our sensations of their probing. The sex-contact process is a brain-wiring mapping strategy, which is used to determine where the psychic sacral centers are located. These areas are energy junctures, links which may be accessed if the Human being probed 'gives permission', by calling to the causer of the pleasure, caused by ET technician stimulation of those areas of our brain. Its exactly like buzzing a circuit to create a map of the wiring.
plutronusNow that makes sense! Thank you
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Post by sunbow on Aug 6, 2013 20:04:19 GMT -6
Yes, it makes sense that they probe our minds and stimulate areas and in doing so induce perceptions which are not real. They are good at it, thus people return with many bizarre stories.
I still want to know why! I agree there are levels of agenda. Since they are here expending huge amounts of personal time, as well as resources, it must be a very important program. It makes sense that every pay-off possible is exploited to compensate for the expenditure. Regardless of galactic economics, every beings lifespan hours are a precious commodity.
Abduction has been happening for generations or most likely all of human history. Is it stepped up now because there are so many more of us, or because of our bio-sphere collapsing? I agree that they do "gene-pool maintenance", but to what end. Why are they continually harvesting us? Are our emotions and our sexual seeds a drug for them?
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Post by sunbow on Aug 7, 2013 7:38:29 GMT -6
Has anyone read 'Sex at Dawn: How We Mate, Why We Stray, and What It Means for Modern Relationships'?
While I do not agree with all the premises and some of teh logic is flawed (and I think teh authors know that), it is a great read which sheds light on teh amazing complexity of human sexuality.
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Post by schwartzchildradiu on Aug 7, 2013 15:47:10 GMT -6
Greetings. This is probably the most optimistic assessment of the condition of human beings living on Earth that has ever existed. If we are protected, and harvested, by benevolent (or malevolent) alien *farmers*, there is little to no danger of humans on Earth being destroyed by any number of cataclysmic events - they'll all be prevented or mitigated by the aliens! We have absolutely nothing to worry about! We only have to accept the fact that once in a while they will come to 'harvest' us, all the while guiding and protecting the planet or at least their 'herd' from danger. A steer, after all, is in a much safer situation than a wild bison. When the storms come, he can be put up in the barn for a while.
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Post by sunbow on Aug 7, 2013 16:28:45 GMT -6
Nice assessment: into the barn (or an ark).
There is the question of why humans recovered so well from the Toba super-volcano and following many years of winter when a human bottleneck of population "1,000 to 10,000 breeding pairs that existed about 70,000 years ago" Wiki.
Then there was the solar flare that ended the last ice age and caused world wide floods. There was a mile high glacier covering the North pole down to the great lakes that thawed in short order and flooded the planet.
The real question is will be be preserved, or replaced by a modified version of humanity?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2013 0:34:38 GMT -6
Greetings. This is probably the most optimistic assessment of the condition of human beings living on Earth that has ever existed. If we are protected, and harvested, by benevolent (or malevolent) alien *farmers*, there is little to no danger of humans on Earth being destroyed by any number of cataclysmic events - they'll all be prevented or mitigated by the aliens! We have absolutely nothing to worry about! We only have to accept the fact that once in a while they will come to 'harvest' us, all the while guiding and protecting the planet or at least their 'herd' from danger. A steer, after all, is in a much safer situation than a wild bison. When the storms come, he can be put up in the barn for a while. Aha! My boyfriend finally got up the courage to post something on the forum!! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by schwartzchildradiu on Aug 8, 2013 2:31:10 GMT -6
Nice assessment: into the barn (or an ark). There is the question of why humans recovered so well from the Toba super-volcano and following many years of winter when a human bottleneck of population "1,000 to 10,000 breeding pairs that existed about 70,000 years ago" Wiki. Then there was the solar flare that ended the last ice age and caused world wide floods. There was a mile high glacier covering the North pole down to the great lakes that thawed in short order and flooded the planet. The real question is will be be preserved, or replaced by a modified version of humanity? You know, I really hope for the latter. At this point in time, for certain we do not have the knowhow to survive, either by a monumental exodus into space, or a sophisticated modification of Earth genomes. We'll have to do both, eventually, or face extinction! Unless of course we really are being farmed.
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Post by paulette on Aug 8, 2013 9:08:57 GMT -6
Glad that this thread has some juice and is carrying on. I'd be interested in knowing the stats - how many reported abductions do NOT involve at least a physical examination if not an explicit sexual context? And as for liasons in which someone realizes that someone not human is in bed with them, or that that camping trip sure had some weird bits...
How often?
And also I am interested in this. A lot of human females (52% in Canada in the last study in 1993)reported intrusive sexual contact (from other humans). It had already happened for many of them by age 16 but continued to age 65. 80% of the respondents had never told anyone. I would imagine (because I was one) that a lot of women contacted distrusted the telephone poll, assuming it was some abusive contact/vouyerism. We think men have similiar levels of abuse, for them perhaps more impactful because 98% of abusers are men - of male and females. So...
Does being a sexual abuse survivor predispose one to having dreams, interpretations, etc of some sexual activities (that might have occurred) but rather than human, it is interpreted as an alien contact? In other words, the alien part covers over the painful reality that it was one's family member or neighbor?
Or...does being an abductee predispose one to surrendering or using a frozen stance when a human predator approaches - and thus increasing the likelihood of molestation or rape. Once someone has been victimized, their odds at being re-victimized are high. There is horrible term, "sexual accomodation", that is used to describe what children do when the inevitable abuser shows up in their rooms. They freeze and pretend to be asleep, or, more than pretend, they dissociate from their bodies. I will say calmly here that in the face of danger I have "fallen asleep". I've intentionally perhaps "fallen asleep" while bear prowled in my campsight, while the dentist drilled (I clamped down on a dental assistant's hand and woke up with people yelling at me). I ignore pain resolutely even that the level of shattered bones. And I think I was contacted as a child. And yet...I don't have recall nor the belief that when we had our big experience at the farm (and we all "fell asleep") that I had signs of physical molestation. Not saying it might not have happened. But I never retreived anything like that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2013 11:09:05 GMT -6
Greetings. This is probably the most optimistic assessment of the condition of human beings living on Earth that has ever existed. If we are protected, and harvested, by benevolent (or malevolent) alien *farmers*, there is little to no danger of humans on Earth being destroyed by any number of cataclysmic events - they'll all be prevented or mitigated by the aliens! We have absolutely nothing to worry about! We only have to accept the fact that once in a while they will come to 'harvest' us, all the while guiding and protecting the planet or at least their 'herd' from danger. A steer, after all, is in a much safer situation than a wild bison. When the storms come, he can be put up in the barn for a while. Welcome I agree with the optimistic assessment, only if Plutronus is using his "Burger and bag of fries" as one of our pleasure points. Literally, I don't want to be eaten. "They" probably like your reference to cows. Has that been seriously embedded in our brain?? We are Cows. Cow down. . . . yet can be worshipped as "sacred" or the "golden calf". ?? Think about it. I'm not the first to bring this to mind. Funny, how "evil", cunning, or mean attributes are reserved for the snake. Did you hear the recent story about the two young boys in Canada and the snake? Someone says the "snake got confused". Huh? Confused, like these unusual critters are no bigger than a goat? Confused, like "I can't find my safe cage (barn), what do I do next?" We would do better if "They" knew us as snakes. Debased, crawling on our bellies, looking docile. Tasty, but a little tough, and not worth eating the whole thing . Languishing in trees, basking in the sun, but unable to be contained in captivity. Last but not least, there are very few creatures that are just as comfortable as a species, living on land or the water.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2013 11:29:44 GMT -6
Once someone has been victimized, their odds at being re-victimized are high. Lots of great points, Paulette ! But this is the one I want to focus on right now. Emergency room staff can also quote numbers on familial emergency room visits, after the first injury. Why is this?? Law of attraction? "I believe I am a victim, so it must be so?" Or. . . . I know for a fact (for myself) that if I act "sexy" even if I am not feeling such, it becomes part of my "persona", and I am pursued as a sexual object. But I want to go with a different "law of attraction". . . one that can appear random, . . . .well, maybe not so different. . . ugh, lost my words.
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Post by sunbow on Aug 9, 2013 19:53:35 GMT -6
JCurio: I think they are after the 'Golden Calf' or 'White Buffalo'. Don't read any history or culture into this, I'm following the cattle theme. --- I think it is very possible that the human genome, or a part of it which was brought to Earth and mixed in with the evolving apes, has something very powerful and sacred involved. People have some psychic ability, though we are either trained that these are impossible, evil, or just trouble so forget them. Humans in general spend a great deal of time avoiding inner silence, either with external distractions or drama. They may be speeding our evolution along trying to get some power to pop out and at the same time may be trying to suppress the potential for psychic warfare, sorcerer wars, or other personal power plays which we have heard of from times past. I feel they are more than just farming us, there is some future state that they are aiming us toward.
Paulette: It has been shown that many people who think they are victims, were not; while others who think they were not, were - so statistics are a very hard thing to believe, not to mention what constitutes abuse in different people's minds who do surveys. Either way it shows how obsessed humans are with sex. As such, since our memories of abductions are hazy and screened (at best), and often recounted later as they percolate up, what really has been going on is hard to say. Are they breeding us? IMO: Probably. Are they monitoring our seed for mutation? IMO: Probably. If a being rambles through our brain and knows our inner most secrets, desires, and obsessions, would we feel more than stripped naked? IMO: Yes, totally violated. Would they know that this was the result of their actions and do it anyway? IMO: Seems like they do know their effect. Does this mean they don't care or that they are using that effect on us to stress us into change? IMO: I think the latter. I think they are seeking to change our relationship to our own sexuality.
How does sexuality relate to our PSI power? How different would life all be if we could always read each others minds clearly? What would it be like to be with beings that caught every stray thought that pops up?
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Post by schwartzchildradiu on Aug 9, 2013 19:54:58 GMT -6
So... are we being farmed? Or do we have to fend for ourselves. Either possibility is harrowing. If we are smart, we will mitigate either contingency. Sun will destroy Earth, eventually, regardless of all.
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Post by plutronus on Aug 10, 2013 7:49:58 GMT -6
JCurio: I think they are after the 'Golden Calf' or 'White Buffalo'. Don't read any history or culture into this, I'm following the cattle theme. --- I think it is very possible that the human genome, or a part of it which was brought to Earth and mixed in with the evolving apes, has something very powerful and sacred involved. People have some psychic ability, though we are either trained that these are impossible, evil, or just trouble so forget them. Humans in general spend a great deal of time avoiding inner silence, either with external distractions or drama. They may be speeding our evolution along trying to get some power to pop out and at the same time may be trying to suppress the potential for psychic warfare, sorcerer wars, or other personal power plays which we have heard of from times past. I feel they are more than just farming us, there is some future state that they are aiming us toward. Paulette: It has been shown that many people who think they are victims, were not; while others who think they were not, were - so statistics are a very hard thing to believe, not to mention what constitutes abuse in different people's minds who do surveys. Either way it shows how obsessed humans are with sex. As such, since our memories of abductions are hazy and screened (at best), and often recounted later as they percolate up, what really has been going on is hard to say. Are they breeding us? IMO: Probably. Are they monitoring our seed for mutation? IMO: Probably. If a being rambles through our brain and knows our inner most secrets, desires, and obsessions, would we feel more than stripped naked? IMO: Yes, totally violated. Would they know that this was the result of their actions and do it anyway? IMO: Seems like they do know their effect. Does this mean they don't care or that they are using that effect on us to stress us into change? IMO: I think the latter. I think they are seeking to change our relationship to our own sexuality. How does sexuality relate to our PSI power? How different would life all be if we could always read each others minds clearly? What would it be like to be with beings that caught every stray thought that pops up? Hello SunBow, as usual you posit interesting points.
>How does sexuality relate to our PSI power?
The reason Human sex feels so good (for those who actually experience it, lots of folks are psychically blocked and don't), aside from the intimacy with a special friend, is due to the mechanics of the orgasm (I think that word really captures the essence of it), it is due to a very limited form of the Khundalini rising up through the Chakras from the sacral center. Mystics such as monks practice abstinence not for the purity that is achieved as is often believed, but to save and to accumulate the Khundalini energy Nous. When we orgasm the Khundalini rises through the sympathetic-nervous-system all the way up to the crown Chakras, in the process the Khundalini reserve is significantly depleted. What does all this have to do with our dreaming awake in Yetzirah...'psychic abilities'? Khundalini is the energy of the non-physical psychic symphathetic-nervous-system that powers the higher-vibrational resonance needed for consciousness in Yetzirah. Being awake in Yetzirah is the state of being psychic. One can not be fully or functionally psychic without substantial Khundalini energy reserve.
Advanced Mystical doctrine teach that everything physical manifests Spiritually first; everything alive is derived and based in consciousness and as such Humans are naturally psychic beings, so why aren't we more psychic than we are? Humans are being fiddled with. It’s an abduction agenda instantiated via gene pool maintenance.
'ET', the behind the Grey mask controllers, in an upper dimension drive over, following the course of the neatly aligned columns of Human homes in their huge black-triangular dimension-craft. The craft pause over those homes that have the characteristic psychic 'glow' of an naturally awakening Human (an element of our Spiritual birthright). The craft descends a solid green beam down through the dimensions. It descends slowly not at all like light, for it isn’t light, while the beam glows it only does so dimly, yet it is not a focused 'beam' as one sees emitting from a green podium LASER. The beam diameter is around six inches which remains a constant diameter cylinder its entire length. The beam could remind one of green Jell-O sans the wiggle. The probe, descends, slowly, eventually passing through the roof of the sleeping Human's house, coming to gently rest on the forehead following a gentle urge to lie on the back is dutifully executed. After a short period, although time isn't linear during the imposition of that synthetic realm, the probe reverts direction withdrawing back up through dimensions, returning back into the bottom of the black triangle dimension craft, where upon the craft resumes its slow course over our homes to the next glowing Human. After processing each Human no longer glows. Craft repeat their course visits periodically, likely via scheduling. The craft execute various tasks, --one agenda is the tuning ‘down’ of specific Human PSI-function, among others is harvesting the PSI force. They leave just enough Vital-Life-Force to enable systematic procreation (plants that plant their next generation themselves) and just enough to prevent premature prodution yeild failures as result of illness. Our aging is programmed to meet certain criterion for other agenda.
>What would it be like to be with beings that caught every stray thought that pops up?
Lots of folks do that now; as you likely know they are sometimes called "empaths". Fortunately for us there is a Spiritual Hierarchy, and a structure that regulates how consciousness works beyond the physical fabric of the brain, otherwise one would need be as SuperConscious as a GOD to be able to process all the thoughts (in the Universe).
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Post by sunbow on Aug 10, 2013 8:32:07 GMT -6
Thanks Plutronus. I am not sure that abstinence is the best way to cultivate Khundalini (Prana, Chi, Water of Life, ...). There are just as many mystical orders that use Dual Cultivation or Tantra practices. Abstinence often leads to aberrations or egomania. Sexuality, like PSI (siddhi) abilities, are not the essence of enlightenment, but can be huge distractions, as the Yogis warn. Balance and the middle road, as conservative and boring as it is made out to be, may be a better path for many people. Seems to me that abstinence or exaggerated indulgence both seem to trap more attention than a humble loving relationship. Freeing out attention from that which binds it is an essential requirement for increasing our glow of consciousness.
What you say about them zapping out the glow from people is disturbing. I have to review my journey in light of this theory. I know humans, individually and corporately, do seek to bring down the bright people, as a means of gaining power or dominance. Human activity as such is igannance, jealousy, greed, etc.; however what you are proposing is much more sinister, as it is highly organized by beings who are advanced in some ways (and obviously would be missing the greater advancement to be behaving as such).
What is the work around? How does one Glow and not get zapped down?
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Post by sunbow on Aug 11, 2013 20:21:26 GMT -6
I know that the essence which makes us human is a very abstract thing and to put it into words, losses it, but I hope that it remains. If disaster waits for us to advance to the point where we can take action, we will probably lose some essential aspect of ourselves. If they are farming us, then although they can quickly reintroduce us or a modified us, I hope that we have something of the human spark. Just to be better farm animals, does not make us more human. We all know of great musicians who have serious flaws in their day to day lives, yet provide brilliant art. If everyone was normalized and socialized, we would become a dead species, just surviving. I think sexuality is a good representation of this, everyone needs to be free to make their own choices and learn their own lessons: there is no one size fits all.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2013 17:30:03 GMT -6
Obviously they're taking their time about it then as my abduction was back in the 60's and I'm sure I was not the first. Why would anyone figure sex into an alien equation? Or farming..because we have no evidence of this. Without them chatting up with us...all we have is theory...guesswork...etc. Do we have to look for what we don't have proof of?
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Post by sunbow on Aug 13, 2013 7:47:13 GMT -6
They are taking a very long time, all of our history and probably a lot longer. I still think the goal is in the future.
Genetic Farming has huge evidence. They take our seed. We have many reports of hybrids, tanks, babies, and mature half humans, as well as countless historical accounts of cross breeding programs.
Guesswork is one thing. Trying to analyze the known data is another. They obvious spend a huge amount of resources, including teh most precious one: being hours of work - so it is important to them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2013 12:42:51 GMT -6
I know that the essence which makes us human is a very abstract thing and to put it into words, losses it, but . . . Exactly. It is not my sexuality that makes me human. (just thought I'd throw that in there)
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