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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2012 11:08:32 GMT -6
When my friend and I ran into them..I wasn't thinking aliens or space ships..there wasn't a lot of it on TV or in the news like there is now. It was sometimes a movie we saw on tv and everyone knew back then tv was not reality..like the lone ranger or Bonaza..they didn't even change their clothes from episode to episode ;D I wasn't 'thinking' anything ..just fear and panic and pain. At least..those were my first memories. Now..I recognize that we must have been in a ship..but I pick that up from the steady thrumming sound it made..not because I saw it. If they had come up and introduced themselves and asked if we wanted a ride..we were silly enough teenagers..we might have gone LOL
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Post by bogey on Dec 27, 2012 21:24:42 GMT -6
Cliff, I think you got it right. Lots of great comments to think about here.
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Post by randy on Jan 28, 2013 1:15:41 GMT -6
One night I felt that the greys were around the house and getting out of bed and getting dressed I stepped out on the front porch with a rifle and found that I could not move either of my legs to take a step. All the muscles had gone into cramps fighting each other. It was an absurd situation to be standing there unable to move target for anyone who might be around. Finally it cleared up and I was able to walk again. My wifes wedding ring is very hard to put on and to remove yet yesterday morning she found it resting on her chest and not on her finger. She has worried over this as being a sign that some thing happened and that they could not get the ring back on her finger so they left it on her chest This is a puzzle to her. My best advice it to avoid the greys period. My sister has been abducted so many times by three greys she recognizes them and calls them the three amigos. A few years ago a new typre of grey appeared tall thin and mushroom shaped heads. She feels these are more threatening to her
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Post by sunbow on Jan 28, 2013 8:58:38 GMT -6
Personal opinions and feelings aside, are the grays intelligent?
If they were involved and indeed had to take the ring off to run some sort of scan or test, and then could not put it back on: WHY would they set it on her chest? IF they put it in the bed, next to the bed, or dropped it in the ocean, THEN there would be no sign of them performing an activity. If it went missing, even if she believed she went to bed with it on, the potential logical explanations would be statistically greater than finding it on her chest. Loose in the bed or next to it would be easiest to write off as 'it came off somehow as she slept'. I believe they understand this kind of logic.
This incident aside, they continually do things which IMO are deliberate attempts to signify their presence, yet leave room for doubt and never offer any sort of definitive proof. IMO: They are very intelligent and know what they are doing. Why they do it: that is a big question, however one result of these activities is to slowly acclimatize humans to their presence and their doings.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2013 10:40:58 GMT -6
They show 'some' people they are here. They are either very intelligent or someone's well trained monkeys..I've never been sure of that...as I think they could be someone's homegrown project. A very intelligent species also knows it's breaking our laws...so I'm assuming they don't care about our laws or in any real sense, us. They kidnap (children as well as adults) cause pain, fear and lasting memories. That isn't an exibition of concern. Then I hear others say..well they're from another planet..as though common courtesy or respect of culture and law shouldn't apply. Amazing that some would want to excuse that without seeing how very different it makes them from us. The monster under the bed...in the room in the dark..the monster that steals time and conducts medical tests (with no permission) the monster that frightens little children..may be no more than an alien from another planet or dimension who has no manners at all. They're seen when they want to be...invisible when it suits.
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Post by paulette on Jan 29, 2013 15:24:20 GMT -6
Personal opinions and feelings aside, are the grays intelligent? If they were involved and indeed had to take the ring off to run some sort of scan or test, and then could not put it back on: WHY would they set it on her chest? IF they put it in the bed, next to the bed, or dropped it in the ocean, THEN there would be no sign of them performing an activity. If it went missing, even if she believed she went to bed with it on, the potential logical explanations would be statistically greater than finding it on her chest. Loose in the bed or next to it would be easiest to write off as 'it came off somehow as she slept'. I believe they understand this kind of logic. This incident aside, they continually do things which IMO are deliberate attempts to signify their presence, yet leave room for doubt and never offer any sort of definitive proof. IMO: They are very intelligent and know what they are doing. Why they do it: that is a big question, however one result of these activities is to slowly acclimatize humans to their presence and their doings. This is definitely Whitley Streiber's take on things that don't go bump in the night. Paulette
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2013 17:43:38 GMT -6
Personal opinions and feelings aside, are the grays intelligent? If they were involved and indeed had to take the ring off to run some sort of scan or test, and then could not put it back on: WHY would they set it on her chest? IF they put it in the bed, next to the bed, or dropped it in the ocean, THEN there would be no sign of them performing an activity. If it went missing, even if she believed she went to bed with it on, the potential logical explanations would be statistically greater than finding it on her chest. Loose in the bed or next to it would be easiest to write off as 'it came off somehow as she slept'. I believe they understand this kind of logic. This incident aside, they continually do things which IMO are deliberate attempts to signify their presence, yet leave room for doubt and never offer any sort of definitive proof. IMO: They are very intelligent and know what they are doing. Why they do it: that is a big question, however one result of these activities is to slowly acclimatize humans to their presence and their doings. Reading from other people's accounts and knowing what happened in my own, I think they are highly intelligent beings but not perfect. They didn't dress my ex correctly before they left. Her undergarments were placed back on her inside out, backwards, and though they were partially pulled down around her waist that could have been because of them dragging her back on the bed after they brought her in to show me her in a highly tranced state of mind. The waves on the bed that she noticed indicated such. She is a perfectionist. She would never have made that mistake ! Another thing they did was they didn't put me back where they found me. I was asleep on the couch. They had me sitting upright on the loveseat and didn't put me back on the couch. I don't sleepwalk and don't remember ever doing so. I have never been told from others of doing so either.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2013 21:26:43 GMT -6
Nods..yep..they are not...perfect. They put my friend and I on the wrong horses. Not something we would do and...we didn't notice it for about half an hour. Like we were still in some altered state. I can't remember our clothes (horses were important LOL)
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Post by randy on Jan 30, 2013 23:32:50 GMT -6
Greys are not perfect and in fact can make some dumb mistakes. I know as a kid they took out my internal organs and set them on my chest as they plowed around inside me for some reason. What is interesting is that my right kidney is twisted around and in back wards so says my doctor. Seems they get sloppy in their work at times or dont care.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2013 10:23:41 GMT -6
And did they work on your brain?
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Post by sunbow on Feb 8, 2013 19:04:10 GMT -6
In the blinking of an eye, my body was standing in the wrong place and wrong position. Then suddenly it was morning.
Perhaps I give them too much credit, but I think they do these 'mistakes' on purpose. The secondary reason could be to make us think they have in-competencies so that we fear them less, but I think the primary reason is to give us evidence. This evidence will not stand up as proof to those who were not there, but offers proof to those who were. Perhaps to help us not think we are going crazy, since you cannot hallucinate your clothes on backwards or being on the wrong horse. Proof that in our minds helps us state that something physical just happened.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2013 22:33:05 GMT -6
This is the real oddity. They want some to know and know for certainty they are here...they don't want everyone to know it. I'm very certain of this. They left visible marks on me...not on my friend and to this day she can't even remember the day let alone a horrifying incident that should have stayed with her. I think..we are supposed to retain just enough but never have the proof so that no one will ever believe it unless it's someone else who they have included into their exclusive little club. A step further to me..a why would they do that..assuming they are doing this on purpose and not just cosmic klutz's. Because when something does eventually come along..some of us won't be nearly as flummoxed as others. A bit de-synthesized..if you will. I think they do plant 'stories' that deliberately make the teller look like a loon. I've read some that no one would ever believe including me..but the story teller is adamant that this happened. So..he believes but others absolutely won't and they think he's nuts. Is this designed to make those who have been abducted or who have had strange encounters..seek others like themselves to compare notes? Who else is going to believe it? They probably started the whole idea of government conspiracy too..because the longer this goes on..the more I think the government is clueless. People will always want the answers..and will always want to think someone has them...it's a need to believe we're not all in the dark. Someone has to know right? Someone we can hold responsible? Expect to protect us? If you let it..this becomes a compulsion.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2013 2:33:11 GMT -6
In the blinking of an eye, my body was standing in the wrong place and wrong position. Then suddenly it was morning. Perhaps I give them too much credit, but I think they do these 'mistakes' on purpose. The secondary reason could be to make us think they have in-competencies so that we fear them less, but I think the primary reason is to give us evidence. This evidence will not stand up as proof to those who were not there, but offers proof to those who were. Perhaps to help us not think we are going crazy, since you cannot hallucinate your clothes on backwards or being on the wrong horse. Proof that in our minds helps us state that something physical just happened. ~nods~ Very true Sunbow... Like falling asleep in one room and waking up in another room having no memory of how I got there...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2013 2:35:06 GMT -6
~hugz Jo and Sunbow too~ ;D
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Post by sunbow on Feb 9, 2013 8:34:12 GMT -6
So perhaps they are forming a club of those in the know (not a club with voluntary admission). Or perhaps there are those who just could not handle it (IT?) and so for their own good, they are left clueless. Or there is something pending where we will be needed. Or we just were not able to be completely brainwashed, so they left us clues for our recovery process.
IT - what all did they do with - to us? = Another big unanswerable question --- But yes, we have the compulsion to know, the burning desire to know: somehow these interactions have added a shade of gray (bad joke) to our whole lives.
Whitley's last book states that they deliberately stressed us as a means to apply an evolutionary change. Post Traumatic Abduction leads to a state of Hyper-Vigilance, which the mystics all claim is required toi refine our higher perceptual powers, which are the natural birthright of all of humanity, but have been greatly diminished in the last few thousand years as we have progressed materially. I believe that these abilities are critically required if we are to re-assimilate our technical knowledge with our humanity and heal the Earth.
Yes, they are story creators. They have injected mythology into our culture for ages. Ultimately, the mythology we hold as real, our world view, our paradigm, controls us. As story tellers, they are directing our Memes. We share our stories and are also storytellers. I feel that those here are more likely to sort through the programmed beliefs of their domestication within this society and seek the real (which is multidimensional and naturally paranormal).
Like she said *** Hugz *** friends...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2013 11:22:21 GMT -6
When you get down to the 'mechanics' of it...there are some why's we can almost answer. We know they manipulate some people but not others..and everyone I know so far..does have, what I would call, a more broadened aspect of the world . We know there is much more to it than others do. Can any of us go back to just leading a life where we take the kids to school..go shopping..cook dinner..do the dishes..without at least looking up every time we go outside? I realized the other day..I now NEED more. I can't stand not having the answers I want and it's making me look harder..be more edgy..expect more. Not about aliens..I could not care less about them..but the mysteries of the world..the universe.. understanding the point where spiritual meets scientific meets ?? Something did spur that in me and others here. Maybe we spur each other on too.
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Post by sunbow on Feb 9, 2013 13:34:18 GMT -6
I do think we spur each other. I am thankful for that.
While we still do all those chores, they no longer amount to the sum of life. While I am fascinated with intelligent life outside of Earth, I realize that they have the same situation as we do, they are born, live through an incarnation in the material, and then die to that life. Like those on Earth, some may have very strong insight into the nature of this journey and others might care less about such things and more about temporary creature comforts.
I must say however, that even growing up I was the same in this regard. I have always questioned everything and been unsatisfied with the answers. I have always been serious about wanting to know what the H-ll is going on here. As a child the behavior of adults seemed highly illogical and even more so as I learned about human society and then more again as I learned our history. The more I learned, the more unbelievable this mess seemed. I hope and pray that we soon leave the dark ages and become a loving civilized species.
Meanwhile, did they somehow pick up on that?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2013 0:38:49 GMT -6
I think the selection has to do with some psychic sense they hone in on. Or..we're the product of some experiment they conducted a long time ago. It's like trying to do an algebra equation with two of the components missing
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