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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2013 19:58:16 GMT -6
I hope you find what you're looking for, good luck !
Have you considered hypnosis to see if there is more to it ? I have considered it but the answer for now is 'no'. I had a run in with these little dudes too.
I wish I could help you. I will try to do an internet search.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2013 21:04:05 GMT -6
I've had a few minutes to think about this. It seems more then just a coincidence and I can understand why you'd be driven to find out more. I think when you went to the Deli and found out that a person named Nancy previously owned it that you may have been on to something.
If it were me I'd go further and find out more about her. Have you tried Facebook , Myspace, or other sites like that ? If fate,destiny,or whatever it's called is meant to be, than you two will meet.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2013 21:17:40 GMT -6
I understand your need to find her and I truly hope you do. Having experience with the 'grey's' I do know they are manipulative and wouldn't be above setting a stage like a maze to see how the mouse finds it's way out. This comes to mind when I read your story and I hope I am very wrong. They don't understand our emotions..they are telepathic by their very nature..it is how they communicate but its not the same with us..a lot of what we do is through emotion. The psychic of us..the ability we have to love to the point that we can actually die from it..is as alien to them as they are to us..it does set us apart. It may be what they are studying now...and she being used in the same capacity you are. I hope you find one another.
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Post by lois on Mar 24, 2013 21:43:49 GMT -6
That is an incredible story. I can see the need to find this woman.. She may be a real person but then like Jo has said .. you cannot believe these aliens. They make abductee's see many things that are not real.
I did read a story back in the 70s of a couple who married that had been abducted together in their past.. He was from New York City. She lived in Florida . His job had move him to Florida permanently. They met and married.. they were distend to meet. It does happen.
I have a granddaughter who went to Penn State with the ministry from her college. There in the Penn State college was a man she met and never able to forget him. She would go there often to see him . She found out this man was from her home town. He was not going to return home as he had a job already line up where he was going to school. After meeting my granddaughter he went back home. They were married this past August. That was distend to happen..
If she really exist you may find her..I hope you do.. wish there was some way one could help...Your name could be incorrect but going to England and recognizing that deli is no accident.
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Post by CitizenK on Mar 24, 2013 23:47:23 GMT -6
Welcome, I love your story, thank you for sharing with us... I will give you 2 pieces of advice (depending on who you are will be the deciding factor in whether or not it is helpful to you.) 1) you can draw her into your 6 degrees with the law of attraction , by consistently thinking of her and wanting to see or hear from her you can draw her in. 2) All of this has come to you for a purpose, it will not be in vain . When the time is right, you will find her or she will find you. But also, I wouldn't give up on pursuing who the lady was that sold the deli, this was not a coincidence, don't leave your trail , it isn't cold. I wish you good fortune in your journeys. Peace
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Post by paulette on Mar 24, 2013 23:57:12 GMT -6
wishmythos - Welcome. What an amazing story. The part that is MOST amazing to me is the amount of energy you invested to find the woman.
I had a similiar thing happen in that I had a dream about two years ago and woke up with a woman's name, and a lot of details of her life. (I have forgotten the name since). I Googled her and a woman with that name existed and was a writer and I think university instructor. (Funny how all the details are blurred now). I emailed her (she had a website) and gave her the information I had - including a picture that was a watercolor done off of a sail boat. And other seemingly personal bits. I explained that I had woke up with the information - and might it be her? She never responded. For all I know, the website was for her book and she maybe never even got the info. I was mystified. I felt I was supposed to talk to her - and couldn't make the connection.
Incidentally. I think Phat Nancy is a take-off on Phat Freddy - an underground hippie cartoon that was drawn by Gilbert Shelton in the 60's who lived both in Austin Texas and California. One of his characters was Phat Freddie who was a were-pig .....did eating binges at night. I think naming a deli Phat anything might refer to that. So Nancy may have been an ex-pat American or came to England due to marriage. And she might be back there again. Maybe...
Oophs...Googled and discovered it was Fat Freddie. Funny I could have sworn...Fat Freddie and the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers...and Fat Freddie had a cat that may have been the inspiration for Garfield. There is a Phat Freddie site on FB apparently...(according to Google). I've got to go to sleep now...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2013 1:02:48 GMT -6
Wow. This is a FASCINATING story! I have been sent on "wild goose chases" before- not sure if it was by the Grays or not... it was always psychic impulse emphasized by dreams... I can't really remember all of the details of the goose chases I have been sent on but none of them ever really had a satisfying conclusion... Like Jo said, they might just be messing with you- or maybe not. I find it extremely intriguing that you were sent to a foreign country and found that deli which you dreamed about! Maybe there IS something more to this... ...or maybe not... you can NEVER tell WHAT the Grays are up to... I suggest you look into hypnosis as well which was what Cliff suggested- a lot of paranormal experiencers have learned a great deal from hypnosis sessions... I don't know what to tell you... but I hope you find her. I hope you post about it here too so I can read about it if you do... ~huggggz~ Welcome to our forum sweetie!!
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Post by plutronus on Mar 25, 2013 2:00:03 GMT -6
wishmythos - Welcome. What an amazing story. The part that is MOST amazing to me is the amount of energy you invested to find the woman. I had a similiar thing happen in that I had a dream about two years ago and woke up with a woman's name, and a lot of details of her life. (I have forgotten the name since). I Googled her and a woman with that name existed and was a writer and I think university instructor. (Funny how all the details are blurred now). I emailed her (she had a website) and gave her the information I had - including a picture that was a watercolor done off of a sail boat. And other seemingly personal bits. I explained that I had woke up with the information - and might it be her? She never responded. For all I know, the website was for her book and she maybe never even got the info. I was mystified. I felt I was supposed to talk to her - and couldn't make the connection. Incidentally. I think Phat Nancy is a take-off on Phat Freddy - an underground hippie cartoon that was drawn by Gilbert Shelton in the 60's who lived both in Austin Texas and California. One of his characters was Phat Freddie who was a were-pig .....did eating binges at night. I think naming a deli Phat anything might refer to that. So Nancy may have been an ex-pat American or came to England due to marriage. And she might be back there again. Maybe...
Oophs...Googled and discovered it was Fat Freddie. Funny I could have sworn...Fat Freddie and the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers...and Fat Freddie had a cat that may have been the inspiration for Garfield. There is a Phat Freddie site on FB apparently...(according to Google). I've got to go to sleep now... 'Phat' is a musical instrument term, it is generally used to describe a type of sound that is created by special effects electronics. Initially the phrase' usage evolved from a specific community. Phat generators were originally a custom-built device pedal, made by a very small select community of special effects guitar music instrument pedal designers. However the phrase has evolved into general band parlance, more or less meaning any electric guitar sound that is richly 'sumptuous'. If one were to look around on the 'Net, one may find these type pedals.
In any case, to hear someone use the term 'Phat', one might suspect that the person has contact within an electric guitar community. Another possible vantage.
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Post by auntym on Mar 25, 2013 10:15:31 GMT -6
welcome wishmythos... if you haven't already, you should read BUDD HOPKINS book WITNESSED the story is similar to yours, except, he finds the woman he met on the ship ... and in a very strange way... don't give up... when the aliens want you to meet... you'll find her...
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Post by skywalker on Mar 25, 2013 13:17:57 GMT -6
Phat is also an urban slang word that means either "cool" or "hot and tasty." www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=phatSince this is a deli we are talking about I would assume the name refers to the "hot and tasty" definition. The word was a popular slang word back in the 90s but like almost all slang words eventually do it has pretty much gone out of style.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2013 23:11:51 GMT -6
Our eyes won't glaze over on this forum sweetie- rest assured. I'd like to hear more about the children...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2013 21:32:01 GMT -6
That is soooo sad! ~hugz~ I'm sorry sweetie... I hope you find the answers you seek...
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Post by skywalker on Mar 26, 2013 21:34:04 GMT -6
If these really are repressed or forgotten memories it sounds to me like they are trying to come out little by little. I don't think the aliens are letting you remember things or giving you messages. It would be more like your own subconscious mind is trying to work things out for itself. The "dream" you had about the deli could have been a vision of the future.
My advice to you would be to pay attention to the signs that you are being given. Whether they are coming from within you or from someplace else they are obviously leading you somewhere. Just don't get obsessive with it. Be discreet.
If you are worried about being taken for a stalker instead of making direct contact with the new owners of the shop there are other ways that you could find out more about the original owner. Perhaps there are old newspaper or magazine articles that were written about the deli. Maybe you can find something about it on the internet.
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Post by skywalker on Mar 27, 2013 22:32:05 GMT -6
How do you know it is the same person? Maybe another Nancy was the original owner. Or maybe your brain was just remembering something it had seen somewhere before and you accidentally went off on a wild goose chase.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2013 23:03:48 GMT -6
Well, Phat Nancy's is off the list. UGH!!!! I just signed up for Facebook and decided to check out Phat Nancy's page or whatever they call it. What I was told when I went there was a blatant lie. Nancy still works there and is still the owner. Her name is Nancy Robinson. She was probably the woman I spoke with and lied to my face. That is just awesome. I feel like an idiot as it is, I don't need people lying to me when all they have to do is just be honest. She probably made fun of me when she got my letter last year. I'm so mad I could scream! I wish I knew what to say but I'm at a loss...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2013 0:04:20 GMT -6
I wish I knew what else to say or do also wishmythos but like Jokelly stated and I absolutely agree and I'm sure you know also that these greys are highly manipulative.
Just please don't let this get to you too much,,,,,I know that is easier said then done.
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Post by CitizenK on Mar 28, 2013 1:24:25 GMT -6
Ok calm down and think about this rationally...if you had someone walk into your place that is a total stranger and ask to speak with you , would you lie ? I mean considering what 'you' have been through already perhaps she is paranoid it's the govrmt or someone like that looking for her so until she knows what business you may have with her, she'd lie. Also, she could have no memories whatsoever of these events of her own...
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Post by charles on Mar 28, 2013 8:48:08 GMT -6
Hi all! Wishmythos - thank you for sharing your story with us and welcome ! I look forward to hearing more about your experiences and hope you feel comfortable enough here to share with us ! TTFN! Take care, seek peace and SMILE!
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Post by auntym on Mar 28, 2013 11:07:55 GMT -6
do you remember what you felt when you met her... if you didn't feel like there was something familiar about her or you knew her, then it wasn't her...
pay attention to your gut feelings...
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Post by skywalker on Mar 28, 2013 22:13:47 GMT -6
That last post kind of makes me wonder if there even is a woman. It could just be a screen image that the Greys are giving you to mask what really happened. Not saying that is the case, just a possibility.
The way I see it there are two possibilities. Either this woman doesn't exist and your mind is just taking bits and pieces of irrelevant information and presenting it to you in a way that makes it seem important. Or, the woman does exist and somehow she (or whatever) is giving you clues to help guide you along in your search. If the second one is the case and if you say you are getting these bits and pieces of information via dreams than you may want to go back and look at all of the info and try to see it from different perspectives.
I have been given info psychically before both in dreams and in waking visions and I have noticed that the dreams are much less accurate than the visions I have when I am awake. Dreams seem to have a lot of symbolism in them, where something may at first appear to be one thing when in actuality it is something entirely different yet close enough for me to recognize it when I finally make the right connection.
One other thing I would like to point out after going back and reading your initial post. You said that you saw the diner in the dream but as soon as you walked in you were suddenly whisked away to some wooded area. It's possible the diner may actually be irrelevant except as a starting point to find the wooded area. Or maybe it may have nothing to do with anything. It is what happened between the diner and the woods that you need to figure out because the wooded area is where you were with the girl in the dream...not the diner. What did the woods look like? While you were over there did the scenery look familiar?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2013 14:02:53 GMT -6
sorry, that was rather blunt, wasn't it? What little people know about G_d, we know even less about the devil. Most likely on purpose . I also revealed an important dream to a friend. That night, I dreamed of a black board only. Written on the black board was a word and 2 or 3 numbers, only. I woke up, and immediately looked up this verse in my bible. It was the verse in the book of Daniel that states "only God can interpret dreams". From then on I accepted that. We are still to turn to other people for encouragement and guidance, but if someone accuses you of running with the devil, to me that's the same as in the past, people being called "witches", just because of a dream. I believe that these "aliens" do use our belief systems against us. "They" are oppressors. "They" cause confusion. I can see why some people would call them "devils". But did you ask them to come into your life? Was this a curse passed on to you by a family member? These are the kind of questions I am asking. Spiritual Warfare? Spiritual Warfare is part and parcel of being human and born into a "broken world", and because the bigger part of "You" is spiritual, you must always be on your guard. Why? No one truly knows. We want a better life, and at best, we make guesses, or live off of the experiences of others, or our own. I like the way you responded to listening to your gut feelings. In both of your examples, you closed your eyes, and . . . You also realised that you CAN change the outcome! G_d is with us. Who can be against us?? (gotta go, for now)
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Post by skywalker on Mar 30, 2013 20:44:35 GMT -6
I've had similar things happen to me too, wishmythos. I have had visions and premonitions that end up coming true. In my case they seem to revolve around things that are either dangerous to me or that will make me extremely emotional somehow. I very quickly learned that I could change the outcome by changing what I was doing which lead me to believe that they were warnings of some kind. From who I have no idea. I have also learned that the longer the period of time between the vision and when it actually happens the more differences there will be. So perhaps in the case of finding your mystery woman not only does the location have to be correct but the timing may need to be as well. Perhaps you waited too long to take the trip. Or maybe it just isn't time for the two of you to meet yet. I've learned to pay attention to my intuition and to listen when it tells me something. Those premonitions have saved me from a lot of trouble. Keep paying attention to the signs.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2013 15:03:03 GMT -6
I've had similar things happen to me too, wishmythos. I have had visions and premonitions that end up coming true. In my case they seem to revolve around things that are either dangerous to me or that will make me extremely emotional somehow. I very quickly learned that I could change the outcome by changing what I was doing which lead me to believe that they were warnings of some kind. From who I have no idea. I have also learned that the longer the period of time between the vision and when it actually happens the more differences there will be. So perhaps in the case of finding your mystery woman not only does the location have to be correct but the timing may need to be as well. Perhaps you waited too long to take the trip. Or maybe it just isn't time for the two of you to meet yet. I've learned to pay attention to my intuition and to listen when it tells me something. Those premonitions have saved me from a lot of trouble. Keep paying attention to the signs. I totally agree.
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Post by sunbow on Mar 31, 2013 20:27:08 GMT -6
Hi, Coming into the conversation late and catching up.
Something is exemplified by your remembering the cube: that is, unless something triggers the memory, it is not there. You have a quest. IMO: the grays are all about the journey and the intensity generated by the journey; not the places along the way, nor about achieving a goal. They seem to want to keep the pressure on, in order to keep us thinking and growing as fast as possible. Evolution happens in response to stresses.
"Her first memory was of her and I helping the greys by taking people to them." -- This is a big question which I have considered. Randy mentioned doing this. What role do we play when we are in their dimensional space (which our minds can only vaguely remember)?
"She wanted to remember more so I told her about the hypnotherapist. I called and spoke to her about my friend. She asked if we had talked about reincarnation. I was mystified and asked her why in the world would the greys have anything to do with reincarnation. She said that they follow certain people that way." -- Whitley Streiber wrote that they once told him that they were the "Recyclers of Souls". There is a fair number of cases which indicate that they recognize souls across many lifetimes and that they are able to work to souls on the other side (ghosts between lifetimes) easier than they work with us.
Many here have seen possible futures and yet as you have ascertained, we are not predestined to a specific outcome. However, we must be very energetically aware and hyper-vigilant in order to step out of the groove which we are following.
Many here have also had other strange paranormal things in our lives. Makes it hard. Yet, could we live happily in the mundane boring reality that others seem to be trapped in. Personally, I could not. My reality is continually shifting and evolving. I feel that I am continually dismissing one illusion after another. Beliefs fall away and I am left with a condition where the reasonings of the mind have limited value and intuition (gut instinct) become the more primary way of being. IMO: the Grays do not have a reasoning mind, rather they only have a web of psychic strings where they emphasize specific currents.
FYI: If you haven't noticed, I philosophize, but not to convince anyone of anything, rather to stir up currents of thought.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2013 0:17:01 GMT -6
You have a quest. IMO: the grays are all about the journey and the intensity generated by the journey; not the places along the way, nor about achieving a goal. They seem to want to keep the pressure on, in order to keep us thinking and growing as fast as possible. Evolution happens in response to stresses. Very interesting Sunbow... that had never occurred to me until you mentioned it. It seems like truth to me... Like the night when I was compelled to go outside at midnight in the dark (when I'm afraid of the dark) to "go for a walk" and a weird dog was following me for miles and would not let me approach him... didn't bark or make ANY noise at all... very odd behavior for a dog... then I found myself looking up at the sky and "expecting" to "see" something then I started running in terror until I randomly ran into a neighbor who just "happened" to be standing at the edge of his driveway close to the road having a cigarette with his dog... Hmmm...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2013 0:19:42 GMT -6
I considered suicide many times and even failed in that. ~hugggggggggggggggzzz~ I know that feeling... all too well honey... You are in a place here now surrounded by people who can totally relate to almost everything you have mentioned... believe me...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2013 5:07:42 GMT -6
Dear Wishmythos, My daughter was distracting me as I read your post back to me, so please forgive me that I haven't finished reading yours, or others' replies . I'm sorry that I wasn't clear on what my questions were! I don't believe that you have asked these "aliens" to come into your life. I don't believe that these "aliens" can be lumped into some generational curse. These are things that supposedly the Christian faith looks for when determining if someone has a "demon". I too, I believe, was taken at a very young age by these aliens. I want to make it very clear that it has nothing to do with my faith in G_d. I will try harder to be careful how I phrase things, Ok? And get back to reading your post this evening!
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Post by mia on Apr 1, 2013 12:32:56 GMT -6
I, too, have had many paranormal experiences and many psychic incidents. I am wondering if visits from those not from here are the catalyst and maybe opens up our minds to these happenings.
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