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Post by lois on Apr 9, 2013 22:51:58 GMT -6
I had a brother close to my age but 18 months younger. We caught snakes and bugs all the time. One time we had a large green grasshopper in a jar. I put the jar to my face while standing out on our walkway to the front door of our home. The sun was bright shinning through the jar. It was if the tiny creature was magnified in my face. Its back leg started to twitch and jerk . I went into a panic threw the jar at my brother and it fell to the concrete. I ran up on the porch screaming . " Don't let it get away . Don't let it get away" I was afraid if it did it may jumped right into my face. Mantis and Jerking. What does it all mean? The first time I seen a Praying Mantis was on our kitchen curtain. I was about five year old. When I seen the bug I told my Mother, I was not afraid of it in the least . But she had to go and turn the curtain around so I could see this Mantis face to face. I saw the shape of its face and eyes. It actually turned its head and looked straight at me. I was horrified. I ran a city block away from my house and who ever got me back to the house I was bound determine that bug had to be taken far away from our home ..or I was not going into the house .
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2013 0:29:05 GMT -6
Hi Dawnoftime, and Welcome ;D! jc here, which is short for "just curious", or you can call me "j" also . I am so thrilled to have a couple of new posters on TEOR! Egads, I feel weird saying that; because it means more people are going through this . . . Lol. Guys, I feel weird anyway. I just heard the front glass door of my house (in front of the heavy wooden, locked door) click closed. My toy poodle is at my feet and he hasn't stirred. I'm resisting the urge to go check the door, for now I was sleeping really well lately, until the last (2) nights. I live now in my childhood home that we moved into when I was 4. I sleep in what used to be my playroom. Yes, "I moved home" on purpose. I thought it could possibly help me. My own home is now up for sale and I do have another home picked out that I hope to bid on in 1 month (its within a 30 minute drive). I'm ready to get out of this house, . There are some good and bad things about my adult experiences here. Right now I am feeling like I am slightly choking, and this is how I feel when I start to get anxiety . I have had this symptom a few times in the last week or so. Probably about moving . Anyway, I am reading this thread . I also want to go back and watch the video Cliff posted, if I am able. I had/have so much to say to what you and others have been saying here, but I guess it will have to be another time. I just wanted to add the images of Zorak and Brak to your descriptions of praying mantis' (even Brak looks like a praying mantis to me when I just see his head ). I'm talking about the cartoon characters on "Space Ghost Coast to Coast". I know, kind of silly, but one evening I just stopped to talk to my kids that were watching tv, and saw some commercial for this show. yeah, I was bothered. Take Care, and I hope to talk more soon. Glad you are feeling reassured ! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2013 11:36:17 GMT -6
I think Brak looks kinda like a reptilian...
lolz JC... I used to love to watch that show on cartoon network when I was a teenager...
Zorak cracks me up. Sometimes he plays a keyboard for their silly songs...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2013 12:01:13 GMT -6
Welcome to the forum Dawnoftime. Your story sounds pretty familiar. We may never actually know why grey's do what they do..but if you read through the forum here, there do seem to be certain characteristics they favor in their subjects. My first visit was as a child of 5 when one stuck something in my ear that's left me with a ringing ear for well over 55 years and I figure was a tracking devise (which incidental..no doctor can find so maybe it really looks like bone or tissue). Second time I was abducted with a friend in broad daylight when I was 16 and out riding horses with my friend Rose. Rose can't remember that day period. My memories started coming back about 15 years later. I have three children..two boys and a girl who are adults now and as far as I know...they have never been 'visited' but we only know what they want us to..really. I was very angry for a very long time...I hope you find what you're looking for here..To some extent we've all helped one another here.
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Post by dawnoftime on Apr 10, 2013 17:20:16 GMT -6
Hello DawnOfTime, >mantis-type men had the huge, black almond eyes. Mantis aliens are not noted for having almond shaped black eyes, however, that **IS** the typical description of Grey alien specie eyes. >they looked like the cover on 'Communion' book. The rendering on Whitley Strieber's book, is that of a stylized hybrid Grey in the general opinion of the experiencer public, and that of mine as well. Also, Praying-Mantis aliens don't look like Grey aliens either. plutronus[/size] [/quote] I'm beginning to think you had an encounter with the Grays too Dawn... When I was about 19 years old I had a series of nightmares about biblical scenes (past and future) and the end of the world and all kinds of frightening stuff for several months like every night I was dreaming about this stuff... One night I dreamed about the tall grays again. One of them came into my bedroom. She was a female- the one who spoke to me when I was 8 had a male voice but this one was a female. At one point in the dream I ended up standing right next to her and she was almost exactly the same height as me (and I am about six feet tall). So yea. The grays CAN be tall... I've been trying to meet with someone who has had an experience with a tall gray but there don't seem to be very many of them... Maybe you were right. Maybe they were grays with a green light shining on them? Did you get a good look at their hands and fingers? What did they look like? As far as the eyes go, I'm not really sure how big or what they were shaped like. You'd think I would remember since one of them got up right in my face and stared at me and scared me so bad I wanted to die but I just don't remember... All I know is they were solid black eyes. That's it really...[/quote] I'm pretty sure, too. Their hands, like their bodies, arms and legs, were long and spindly. I am wondering if the tall greys are more about communicating about events or giving messages..? Thoughts, anyone? Are there any threads on that? I guess if tall grey encounters are more rare maybe not...:-(
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Post by dawnoftime on Apr 10, 2013 17:33:01 GMT -6
"It would appear that the abductors are attracted to certain genetic traits, like psychic abilities or unusual levels of intelligence. If a boy had those in his genes he could definitely become a target regardless of who is raising him. The traits could have been passed down from either of the biological parents. Since you mentioned artificial insemination I'm assuming you probably don't know much about the father? It's possible he may have had his own abduction experiences."
Good point. I have tested as having a "genius" IQ -- whatever that means, since I am such a blockhead about so many things. LOL I do know that the same is true of my son's donor. He is extremely quirky and a problem solver on a global level -- so it is entirely possible he is an abductee. I don't know about him, but me and my son are also very sensitive psychically. For example, I was going to sleep a couple weeks ago and sat bolt upright and said, "I have to find the tortoise! We have a free-roaming tortoise who we see about 100 days of the year -- she hibernates and comes out once a month or so to ask for food and water. It isn't unusual to go without seeing her for weeks, but this "signal" was overwhelming. To make a long story short, whe was indeed in distress -- a house sitter had opened a vent cover and she was in the furnace! She would never have survived if I hadn't "heard" her. Another time I had an overwhelming influence to get off a public bus and when I did I came across a woman being abducted by a huge man trying to put her in his car. I ran towards him, ready to fight, and he fled. It turned out he was a serial killer who was captured later. I have lots of experiences like that -- large and small.
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Post by dawnoftime on Apr 10, 2013 17:38:07 GMT -6
On three different occasions I had woke up with a "spider bite" on my right forearm. The first time I wrote it off as being a bite, so I purchased an insect trap for my bedroom. I didn't see any spiders, but just in case. The second time, it was in the same exact spot. I thought that was odd and it didn't want to seem to go away. So I used peroxide and when that didn't work, I went to my grandma's for a home remedy. Assuming that it was a bite, she treated it the best way she knew how. I had a severe reaction and like you, I broke out in welts. I finally went to the hospital (I can't stand hospitals) and the doctor in the ER treated me. He looked at it and gave me an antibiotic. He looked at it again and said that whatever it was, it wasn't a spider bite. The last time happened here in this apartment. I had strong feelings for my (once) friend who is also an abductee. Since she was getting married, I didn't want things to get complicated for her. So I asked "them" to take away my feelings for her. I felt so torn about the issue, so I continued to beg. Then on a Saturday morning, I awoke feeling better than I had in a very long time. There again was the mark in the same exact place. When I awoke, My right arm was stretched out away from the covers and facing up, exposing the crook of my arm. I got up and went about enjoying my Saturday off when she called. She came over to give me a book that I had lent her. Zero feelings of longing for her. I looked at her and didn't feeling anything other than the fact that I just wanted to be friends. I have a growing feeling that they have an uncomfortable degree of influence on our emotions. Of course I don't like that idea. I'm sure no one does. It seems in other posts and in some things I've seen on tv that some abductees have had "emotional experiments" on them. :-(
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Post by dawnoftime on Apr 10, 2013 17:46:44 GMT -6
But those mantis would put a chill up anyone's spine. I cannot say I seen Mantis aliens but every thing in my life since childhood and teens that had to do with a praying mantis made me go bazook . Like when they made the Edsel around 1959 I could not look at those middle front vents. The elongated black things scared me to death to almost sick.
We had to pass a car sales lot after school let out. I walked with my friend on the opposite side of the street and would not even glance toward the street til we were pass them. I know it is very crazy.
But then one day at Mufon. Steve showed me in a post a case in Canada where the witness drew the alens from his encounter. There were suppose to be the mantis type. They were identical to that Edsel.. Isn't it amazing how things like cars and green beans can trigger such a strong identification? In some ways it makes me think those things are strong evidence for our experiences (not that we need to prove anything here, or anywhere, for that matter).
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Post by dawnoftime on Apr 10, 2013 17:56:10 GMT -6
Hi Dawnoftime, and Welcome ;D! jc here, which is short for "just curious", or you can call me "j" also . I am so thrilled to have a couple of new posters on TEOR! Egads, I feel weird saying that; because it means more people are going through this . . . Lol. Guys, I feel weird anyway. I just heard the front glass door of my house (in front of the heavy wooden, locked door) click closed. My toy poodle is at my feet and he hasn't stirred. I'm resisting the urge to go check the door, for now I was sleeping really well lately, until the last (2) nights. I live now in my childhood home that we moved into when I was 4. I sleep in what used to be my playroom. Yes, "I moved home" on purpose. I thought it could possibly help me. My own home is now up for sale and I do have another home picked out that I hope to bid on in 1 month (its within a 30 minute drive). I'm ready to get out of this house, . There are some good and bad things about my adult experiences here. Right now I am feeling like I am slightly choking, and this is how I feel when I start to get anxiety . I have had this symptom a few times in the last week or so. Probably about moving . Anyway, I am reading this thread . I also want to go back and watch the video Cliff posted, if I am able. I had/have so much to say to what you and others have been saying here, but I guess it will have to be another time. I just wanted to add the images of Zorak and Brak to your descriptions of praying mantis' (even Brak looks like a praying mantis to me when I just see his head ). I'm talking about the cartoon characters on "Space Ghost Coast to Coast". I know, kind of silly, but one evening I just stopped to talk to my kids that were watching tv, and saw some commercial for this show. yeah, I was bothered. Take Care, and I hope to talk more soon. Glad you are feeling reassured ! ;D Thanks JC! Did I hear that you had a rash type burn that was unexplained?
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Post by plutronus on Apr 11, 2013 7:59:18 GMT -6
I'm beginning to think you had an encounter with the Grays too Dawn... When I was about 19 years old I had a series of nightmares about biblical scenes (past and future) and the end of the world and all kinds of frightening stuff for several months like every night I was dreaming about this stuff... One night I dreamed about the tall grays again. One of them came into my bedroom. She was a female- the one who spoke to me when I was 8 had a male voice but this one was a female. At one point in the dream I ended up standing right next to her and she was almost exactly the same height as me (and I am about six feet tall). So yea. The grays CAN be tall... I've been trying to meet with someone who has had an experience with a tall gray but there don't seem to be very many of them... Maybe you were right. Maybe they were grays with a green light shining on them? Did you get a good look at their hands and fingers? What did they look like? As far as the eyes go, I'm not really sure how big or what they were shaped like. You'd think I would remember since one of them got up right in my face and stared at me and scared me so bad I wanted to die but I just don't remember... All I know is they were solid black eyes. That's it really... I'm pretty sure, too. Their hands, like their bodies, arms and legs, were long and spindly. I am wondering if the tall greys are more about communicating about events or giving messages..? Thoughts, anyone? Are there any threads on that? I guess if tall grey encounters are more rare maybe not...:-( The tall Greys are hybrids. As I understand things, the hybrids that are interacting with Humans, are 'engineered' to specifically communicate and to understand Human thinking, in addition to other Human-like attributes. (I learned this information in discussions with Dr. Claude de Conti Coure', personal Neuro-Surgeon to the Sheik of Saudi Arabia. Claude was a member of Elizebeth Pioletiete's private, SETI Institute e-mail list in 1995, to which I was invited by Claude.) Non-hybrid 'short' Greys can not understand nor can they communicate with Humans, as their brains are neurologically too different from that of Human neurology.
It is generally believed by the Near Earth ET Studies ("invisible-college" scientists) community, that Greys are insects, as Humans recognize insects and because they behaviorally and physically approximate Human known insect comparison models. The non-hybrid Grey's natural evolutionary stature (3.2 meter) lends support to the belief. The belief also allows one to reasonably extrapolate, as it is consistent with Earthian insect behavior, that it is further likely, owing to 'short' Grey's stature, that these aliens may originate on a smaller mass world than that of Earth's, as apparently they were able to physically evolve as larger stature insect specie than that of their 'cousins' here via Earth's larger mass. In simple-speak, insects on Earth can't grow tall (largest being around six inches), due to their exo-skeletal physiology, as their 'bones' support structure is on the outside, --constrained area inside restricts larger muscle evolution, and due to the larger mass (more gravity) of Earth.
For myself, the compelling evidence (incidentally, I studied insects in my mid-teens and twenties) is the East German RADAR data-sets which Dr Illobrand von Ludweiger (Prof of Electrical Engineering, Director of CNES MUFON Germany), published in his (NIDS privately published..by Robert Bigelow) "Best European UFO Cases", technical book. These RADAR/visuals clearly suggest predatory insect flight behaviors, which easily could be transposed with those observed in Earth insect hunting activities and-or mating. (The book I have, was given to me by the ET Field Unit Research Director, NIDS.)
So, to answer your question more succinctly, yes, tall Greys are more communicative than their short relations. As to the tall versus short observation 'rarity' statistics? Well, its very difficult to acquire reliable information as the folks who ACTUALLY keep records and tabulate the data, typically do not share their data with other investigators, and since there is no central repository or publication center for papers, there is little reliable information available to those who are outside of their social circle. Its a significant problem.
>I've been trying to meet with someone who has had an experience with a tall gray
I am a hybrid Grey contactee, in fact, I can see It as I write this. It is always, just inside my mind's eye, there, looking at me, --all I have to do is look, although I work to avoid doing so. As when I do, It pulls energy from me which I feel as a pressure on my back, just about where my heart is stuck to the rear of my ribcage. (The pericardium was cut away during valve repair surgery. Since the heart is 'gooey', it sticks to stuff inside my body cavity.) Ad rem...the 'sight' is via a telepathic link, which I suspect is the result of my having been implanted by the Greys at some juncture in the 1990s. I know that one of the implants was removed.
I hear all kinds of yakin about implants, I'll share my 'implant' experience.
I was suffering Spiritual pain and significant energy depletion, at times so much so, that my lips were turning blue. The medical doctors could find nothing wrong with me physically. In those days I was trying everything, garlic-cloves, burning essential oils, salting the door-jams, Banishing-Rituals-of-the-Pentagram. I even hired an exercist, who also used accupuncture durring her, in my home, activity. She helped a little. All of this was after the psychic attacks began. In 2001 I hired a retired Lockheed engineer/dowser in Burbank California, (a referral by an older Mystic student friend). The dowser helped relieve me of some of my significant Spiritual problems that I was suffering which began, after my having repeatedly 'invited' ET to communicate with me. I 'transmitted' the invitation telepathically, as I was seriously beginning to suspect that ET solve what I've identified as being the 'Great-Distance-Communication' problem that space-faring civilizations must solve, by using a pratical form of telepathy. I was also curious to learn, if possible, whether or not ET could be utilizing machines or other psi-apparatus/psionics for telepathic communications. But most important to me, I desired, if they would, to edify me regarding Alien/Human history. "Why are you here?"
During the Spiritual dowsing process, and after about two hours the dowser announced that he had located an implant. He reached over, and through the opening of my open collar button shirt, he removed, by pinching an area of skin about four inches above my left nipple; it bled. When he did this, I simultaneously heard and felt a 'pop' sensation inside my neck, just behind the esophagus and I psychically saw something that appeared to be a shiny silvery crystal-like object...just a little flash, a mini-vision. He showed me, pinched between his thumb and forefinger a little rice sized oblong object that he informed me was an implant. He deposited the object into a metal ashtray, squirted lighter-fluid onto it, and set it afire. Immediately after this happened I began to uncontrollably cry. The feeling was indescribable, it both hurt and it felt like something had been pulled out of my soul. My body began to move around and I literally slid out of the cushioned chair and rolled around on his floor, I did this consciouslyfor around fifteen minutes maybe?, and then while rolling around, I passed out. He told me that I rolled around on his floor about four hours crying and weeping, although I don't remember anything after I passed out. I awakened on the floor, and somebody had kindly covered me with a blanket. He told me that I wasn't the worst affected that he'd seen, but I did rank in the top three! It was nearly midnight when I got into my car, I was barely able to drive home. I needed to get home. I was cooked.
The Grey Alien telepathic contact process that I naively invited, was created through a series of telepathic 'urges' that I received, initially, until I became increasingly aware that I was being guided through a process that enhanced my telepathic function, enabling me, later, to directly 'communicate' empathing with the hybrid Grey. The Grey, over a period of months, 'showed-me' via series of shared-visions, similar to serial TV shows, vision after vision, Alien-Human history. It was fascinating and frightening all at the same time. The Grey, only taught me about the Reptilians, and a few of the other Black/Red Sun type agendas, but nothing was revealed regarding their own Human related contact history or their Human activity agenda. Everything was just going hunky-dory until the Reptilians learned/discovered that I could psychically see their activities, they began their psychic attacks on me. It was a psychic sh.it-storm. Its been 12 years, not all of the fires are out....I'm still smoking in a few places.
The Greys that harrassed my mother in 1965 were short Greys.
plutronus ps...Grey/Gray : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey
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Post by CitizenK on Apr 12, 2013 0:21:06 GMT -6
Plutronus said; "The tall Greys are hybrids. As I understand things, the hybrids that are interacting with Humans, are 'engineered' to specifically communicate and to understand Human thinking, in addition to other Human-like attributes" The problem with this is that it is all speculation that many have decided is the most plausible explanation when in fact I believe it is farthest from the truth. They aren't here to understand us, they've been coming for far too long to still be trying to understand us. And they are intelligent beings to get here when we can't get 'there' wherever that is...that being said, they are here to do locate the volunteers, track and monitor their well being and location, DNA upgrades for many, testing and monitoring the environment by way of animals, amphibians, water, air, and nuclear testing sights... As for psychic attacks, there are ways to shield from these if you'd like to learn how. I will not say all visitors are good just as not all humans are good, but the ones teaching and sharing info with us , are. We look often at these experiences as harassment, abduction, brain washing, etc. but this is because we are looking with old eyes. It is time to wake up and look at life through new eyes, eyes that show a fresh perspective on all of it. I do not have all of the answers but I do feel that I have made more progress than most investigators on this topic. They want to stick with the typical or classic belief system of it all. Your spiritual invasions and difficulties came from opening yourself up without dealing with and facing who you are and/or have been prior to this great connection being turned on...it isn't any blame of anyone but you...I know, because I've lived it. This is similar to activating kundalini without being 'ready' for it first. And it does take assistance of specialists to help you ease it but it will not go away until you face your own demons. Whether that be childhood trauma, being victimized , or being the one who victimized another...you have to forgive yourself and ask for forgiveness from them in order to move from it into a space free of these guilts and pains. You are spot on in your assertions of the greys being insect species. I will add to that that I believe they actually are inter dimensional even rather than extraterrestrial in origin with only a veil between us and them. I am very pleased to see you sharing so much! Good for you. Please do not take my additions as reason to not continue to elaborate on your own experiences or conclusions. Btw, your weeping at the implant removal...was your subconscious knowing that the angels won't be able to find you now for awhile. Tell me, have you ever felt like "you" volunteered to come here but didn't know why??? Peace
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