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Post by poseygilbert on Mar 27, 2014 23:19:05 GMT -6
Posey...you have a lot of advice to give...I'm sure you've helped others. But ...you don't do very well if someone has an opinion differing from your own. I HAVE faced it and moved forward..I chose not to immerse myself in it..but I don't have the same factors you do. You seem to be some sort of magnet for the weird...because I have never EVER seen another as inundated as you are. You can be offensive. The 'drooling a$$hole in the chair' I'm guessing is Steven Hawking. How well would you do if no part of your body moved...could you live in your head or would you be haunted there. Aliens probably wouldn't want you anymore..that might be a blessing. Of course scientists holler hoax and impossibilities...because the bleeping 'aliens' don't ever pick them to terrorize...and they go out of their way to make us look like idiots to anyone with a brain. It's done on purpose to keep the issue clouded so that they always have the 'un-reliable' to hide behind. There is NO need for vulgarities here. We can all get the point without embellished language. Other people in the world will have made their own observations and drawn their own conclusions..they may not match yours. They may be right...you may be right. I'm not judging your journey...just saying that it does not need to be everyone's journey. People deserve options. I don't think you are necessarily 'brave' for your ..in your face..living with aliens every day..lifestyle..I just think you have some reason for owning it. And the more you own it...the more they want YOU. Now..you can revile me...you can cuss me up one side and down the other (Admin might get irked but since it's me..maybe not..LOL) or you can just ignore what you do not like in my posts. I'm no more likely to shut up than you are. You can even toss up the little *bleep* wiggling thingie you have when you're trying to make a point to us seem cute. Or...you can just opt to get along and realize everyone has the right to be here and think freely. Steven Hawking may drool but he's a genius who thinks in mathematical dimensions we cannot even conceive of. There is much more to the universe than one ugly little corner of it. Or so I believe. Oh for heavens sake play nice.
Jo:
I don't give a hot steaming pile about what people think better known as "their opinions."
Opinions are like a$$holes everybody has one and most of the time they are full of *bleep.
Which is why I choose to speak from my Experiences and not from my a$$hole.
You seem to some sort of magnet for the weird...because I have never EVER seen another as inundated as you areMy Wiccan girlfriend Carolyn often use to say I was the portal through which these things came.
In 1973 I wrote a paper on Quantum Physics I called:
When in 1993 I got my first computer a Mac Powerpc 63 I published in every collegiate Dept. Of Physics forum I could find an "E-ddress" for on the Internet. This included me sending email to Professor Michio Kaku of City University of New York NYC, and Professor Stephen Hawking's of Cambridge University of the U.K. My being new at this I had written my paper as I'd been "Told" to do in all caps. The only complaint I received was from Professor Stephen Hawking's secretary I thanked him but never heard from him again. In all the colleges that I sent my papers to, Professor Michio Kaku was the only of all the professors whom talked of the contents of my article, and did not bemoan, "Oh no, all caps are considered shouting!" (well then, if all caps are considered shouting then am i whispering now?) Instead of doing this, Prof. Kaku, warned me of the dangers of sending out my uncopyrighted works as I had done. "There are those that will claim your work as theirs, and who will the Physicist believe, you or they?" he warned me. This warning proved prophetic and I did later in 1997 I began to hear my works being touted as none other than the works of Professor Stephen Hawkings, but now guised as the "Theory of Everything." However; he having not been the one the Muses sang this theses to, soon crashed into the inevitable obstacle, the "Non-visible Wall" at the end of the tracks, and had to back off of something he did not understand in the first place.
So they now search for the so called "God Particle," or as The Muses put it, "The Abseprsence, The Presence of absence, or The Intangible Nothingness." They will never find it because they'll never recognize it when they do.As for:
"Aliens probably wouldn't want you anymore..that might be a blessing. Of course scientists holler hoax and impossibilities...because the bleeping 'aliens' don't ever pick them to terrorize...and they go out of their way to make us look like idiots to anyone with a brain."
That makes them no difference, I'm in a wheelchair now, and still they come. As for: It's done on purpose to keep the issue clouded so that they always have the 'un-reliable' to hide behind. There is NO need for vulgarities here. We can all get the point without embellished language. Other people in the world will have made their own observations and drawn their own conclusions..they may not match yours. They may be right...you may be right. I'm not judging your journey...just saying that it does not need to be everyone's journey. People deserve options. I don't think you are necessarily 'brave' for your ..in your face..living with aliens every day..lifestyle..
Brave? When have I ever said I was brave? Again your words / judgment not mine elsewhere I told you I was a chicken *bleep*. I'm no braver than you are for living on a planet that could be hit by a comet, flash fried by a near by exploding star, or by any other host of known or unknown cosmic or dimensional crazy *bleep* bullsh!t that could happen. I, you, we, don't have a choice. Ain't $h!t I or you can do about it, but keep on keeping on, now is it?
As for: I just think you have some reason for owning it. And the more you own it...the more they want YOU
I do not "Own," "Deny,'' or as you do "Ignore," that which I truly experienced, I in fact choose to recognize, acknowledge, and put it to use. I do no more than does the fireman that rushes into a burning building to try to help save some of those still trapped inside, while others just stand around gawking. I, like the fireman know, I can, and have helped, to rescue some from "The House On Fire" that I call "The Abductional Post Traumatic Stress Disorder Syndrome." instead of sitting on my *bleep* contemplating my umbilicus and decreeing judgments and casting aspersions on the Experiences of others based solely on my own opinions.
February 26, 1993 I was almost killed in the first bombing of The World Trade Center. I had a 12:30pm doctors appointment at Beekman Hospital but decided to go in early because I wanted to get some canvase bags they sold in the lobby of The WTC 2nd Tower. However Mother's Prayers" and problems on the subway got me there little later than I wanted although I was still early for my appointnent fifteen minutes or more something said. "Nah, just go and see Dr. Krinick then stop by WTC on the way back home." It was as I was in Dr. Krinick's office that I started to here sirens and someone came in and announced that there had been a bombing at The World Trade Center. Those six people killed there were in the store where I would have been in had I not gone to Dr. Krinick's office those fifteen minutes earlier. What's true story got to do with this reply? I never let this "Close Call Experience" stop me from living my life or going back to The World Trade Center. In fact as Theresa, Carolyn, and I, were having dinner in the Restaurant in the Stanley Morgan Building (where Carolyn worked) I looked up at WTC through the restaurant's ceiling windows and said aloud as I did
from the time since I watched them being constructed while I was working at the Federal Reserve Bank Of New York, "I keep thinking that one day I'm going see these buildings fall, but how I'll do that and survive it I do not know." The next morning the world and I watched them fall the on TV.
You said: Now you can revile me...you can cuss me up one side and down the other (Admin might get irked but since it's me..maybe not..LOL) or you can just ignore what you do not like in my posts. I'm no more likely to shut up than you are. Show me where I have ever done what you are insinuating I did to anyone here. You can't can you, just like you can't show anywhere in here where I attacked anyone's opinion's in this forum, but that's your job now isn't it? Do you really think you can goat or beguile me into doing something that I can get banned for? I like this forum and most of those that I have met here are cool to me including you. Their opinions however, ''No es importante para mí." It is only their Experiences that I seek to read and speak about I think I'll be here awhile. Why else would I be here? Why would I want to silence anyone? How could I learn anything from that?
As for: "You can even toss up the little *bleep* wiggling thingie you have when you're trying to make a point to us seem cute."FOI: Actually he was not *bleep* wiggling, but making. "A Big Old F*rt "
My metaphore for Delores Cannon
Or...you can just opt to get along and realize everyone has the right to be here and think freely.Or...you can just opt to stop accusing me of thinking the way that you think I do. Speak for thee not for me.
As for:Steven Hawking may drool but he's a genius who thinks in mathematical dimensions we cannot even conceive of.
Wow all that while stooling his draws at the same time. Will his wonders never cease?
BIIIFFFFRRRAAAAAP!
Oh and your hero's name is Stephen W Hawking not Steven Hawking. Haven't you ever read any of his books?
As for: There is much more to the universe than one ugly little corner of it. Or so I believe. Oh for heavens sake play nice.
I will if you will. Peace out and chill.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2014 23:25:08 GMT -6
JC
I wasn't always a very spiritual person. It actually took a lot of fear to drive me to call on God. The thing is...I don't care a fig for religion...I've never needed it...BUT...some people do...they find answers there and they find peace. Some turn to religion to replace addiction...what could possibly be wrong with that? A fantastic trade off I'd say. So for all of these reasons...I don't care what religion if any...brings a person to God/Christ....as long as they learn along the way that they don't have to struggle alone. There are arms out there...waiting to be asked. BUT...there are a couple of rules. You have to listen...you have to see...you have to have faith that you will be helped and understand that the help may not exactly be what you had in mind. What I can't understand JC...is how quickly a separation can happen. I'm not sure it's not a test of faith...I dunno. But...I'll be feeling soooo close...intensely amazing...knowing I am being helped...and pretty soon...I am not so in tune...like I am taking it for granted...then next thing I know..I'm feeling all lost and lonely and desperate again. Then.......I remember...and I'm all about asking forgiveness..and step by step...starting to feel the elevation that occurs when you're close to the spiritual. There needs to be balance between the seen and unseen world. Balance in all things. In other words..I slip..forget. There is more in this universe than we can conceive of...we just call it the paranormal when we don't understand it. There are miracles every day....some as small as a snow flake..but the love...it's always there. We truly are never alone...but a lot of us...just won't accept it....Well...they don't see much else either.
There are angels to be called on...the ascended masters (Jesus, Moses, Mary, Buddha, Mohammed..to name a very few) all will render help when asked. And go so far as to give a message that they have heard and are working on it. I once asked for a penny...as a sign...I still find pennies every where...always shiny brand new ones. And no one...will ever convince me...they didn't rescue me from the unwanted attentions of the nasty little gits.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2014 23:34:46 GMT -6
Ah Posey...I never said he was my hero. I do think he's a very brave man and a brilliant scientist...who doesn't deserve to be called a drooling a$$hole any more than anyone here does. It's the language I'm objecting to..it is offensive to hear it so often...but if that's the way you want to communicate..have at it..until one of the moderators gets tired of it. I have several of his books as a matter of fact..but he's not a favorite author. I'm sure you are a very brilliant person...so are many others here. I hope you continue to find pleasure here.
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Post by poseygilbert on Mar 28, 2014 2:02:20 GMT -6
Ah Posey...I never said he was my hero. I do think he's a very brave man and a brilliant scientist...who doesn't deserve to be called a drooling a$$hole any more than anyone here does. It's the language I'm objecting to..it is offensive to hear it so often...but if that's the way you want to communicate..have at it..until one of the moderators gets tired of it. I have several of his books as a matter of fact..but he's not a favorite author. I'm sure you are a very brilliant person...so are many others here. I hope you continue to find pleasure here. Hey Jo: I happened to liked the guy and his works until I saw what I sent him fourteen years later being passed off as his work, just as Professor Kaku had warned me about. Had it happened to you how would you feel about him, what would your opinion be about him then? Was his knowing that I sent my article to this ba$tard what triggered Professor Kaku's too late warning to me? Just as I'd been warned, "Who's going to take my word over the great Professor Hawking?" Thanks for the quick response.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2014 10:08:40 GMT -6
Posey those are really serious and slanderous allegations and more troubling that Kaku would say something like that about a peer. We never know who reads the posts in this forum...sometimes it's prudent to play it 'closer to the vest'. Sky has seen some interesting ISP addresses.
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Post by auntym on Mar 28, 2014 10:47:34 GMT -6
posey... you are a rude, disrespectful person,
consider this a warning...there will not be a next time, you will be banned permanently
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2014 15:16:29 GMT -6
. . . . and still, Posey did not answer my question . You (Posey) and I both know about the instance where you were helped, simply by your muse getting you to focus on your dogs, instead of what was happening at the moment to yourself And you and I both know that situation was probably what you call a "nont". Even if "they", meaning 'aliens', truly can't be stopped, can I make a comparison to the "normal aging process of a human"? It can't be altogether stopped either, but we're sure going to try, and in the meantime we're going to find some pleasant and not-so-pleasant ways of making the process better.
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Post by poseygilbert on Mar 28, 2014 16:28:01 GMT -6
posey... you are a rude, disrespectful person, consider this a warning...there will not be a next time, you will be banned permanently Hi auntym:
Nothing I've posted here is a lie or was directed at any member here. Please explain to me what rules I am breaking or broken on voicing my true experiences and complaints about those that caused me injury, and are still causing injury to those like me who are still at ground zero in the very phenomenon this forum is here to discuss? I used no language here that I've not seen posted elsewhere. I don't think I have violated any of your rules, if I have please tell me which and exactly where it was. So far I have had to face false accusations, nasty innuendos and insinuations about my character. I have to wonder, is it because I am a junior member, a black man, or maybe some here just don't like my looks, am I suppose to silently accept these comments unchallenged? I came here to share my experiences, and looking for answers, not for controversy and confrontations. Here however, I've faced more of the latter than the former. Maybe if I had hidden behind a cool avatar rather than showing my real face and name, it would have been easier for me, but by now every one hear knows I don't hide my face, my experiences, or my feelings about the things that people say and do, or have personally done to me. Half truths are whole lies. From the time I literally showed my face here it was complained, "Oh he just posts but he doesn't talk to anyone." From the moment I started to talk it got worse eventually leading to my banning. Now again I am facing being banned permanently absent reason or whyfor.
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Post by poseygilbert on Mar 28, 2014 16:36:09 GMT -6
Posey those are really serious and slanderous allegations and more troubling that Kaku would say something like that about a peer. We never know who reads the posts in this forum...sometimes it's prudent to play it 'closer to the vest'. Sky has seen some interesting ISP addresses. Jo:
Skywalker can check up on me if he wishes, he'll only find I told the truth. Why would I lie about such things?
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Post by auntym on Mar 28, 2014 16:59:08 GMT -6
posey... you are a rude, disrespectful person, consider this a warning...there will not be a next time, you will be banned permanently Hi auntym:
Nothing I've posted here is a lie or was directed at any member here. Please explain to me what rules I am breaking or broken on voicing my true experiences and complaints about those that caused me injury, and are still causing injury to those like me who are still at ground zero in the very phenomenon this forum is here to discuss? I used no language here that I've not seen posted elsewhere. I don't think I have violated any of your rules, if I have please tell me which and exactly where it was. So far I have had to face false accusations, nasty innuendos and insinuations about my character. I have to wonder, is it because I am a junior member, a black man, or maybe some here just don't like my looks, am I suppose to silently accept these comments unchallenged? I came here to share my experiences, and looking for answers, not for controversy and confrontations. Here however, I've faced more of the latter than the former. Maybe if I had hidden behind a cool avatar rather than showing my real face and name, it would have been easier for me, but by now every one hear knows I don't hide my face, my experiences, or my feelings about the things that people say and do, or have personally done to me. Half truths are whole lies. From the time I literally showed my face here it was complained, "Oh he just posts but he doesn't talk to anyone." From the moment I started to talk it got worse eventually leading to my banning. Now again I am facing being banned permanently absent reason or whyfor. what part of "you are rude and disrespectful" didn't you understand? if my definition of rude & disrespectful is different than yours...just know that its my definition that counts...
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Post by poseygilbert on Mar 28, 2014 17:02:19 GMT -6
What within all creation is not made of, or by GOD? When you really take the time to look, and not judge, you'll see it's all a gift, . . . IT'S ALL GOD... IT'S ALL GOOD... Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/4579/dead-jelly-fish?page=1&scrollTo=51547#ixzz2x5altD00_______________________________________________________________________________________________________ I totally agree with this part of your statement. I usually and often phrase it as "God is the author of everything" . However, I have to say that some of His work has been corrupted. Maybe, even in a "copying" of His work, we lose some of the "picture" he intended, no matter what was intended by the "copier". And yes, He is still the author of that, because where else does it come from? The best example that I can personally give, is types of music. I like all types of music, and "rock and roll" has made a stand in Contemporary Christian Music, as you know. I like hard rock, so I am very happy with this. Something about a pounding beat (I used to play the drums ) holds the same type of "thrall" over me at times, as a softly whispered Gregorian chant. You have to listen closely to what is being said. Is the music meant to soothe me, make me "come alive", or incite violence? I think you understand what I'm trying to say. . . I think, because we are citizens of Earth, we get a little too comfortable with finding reasons for violence. Violence is then construed to look like, "oh, it made that person stronger" etc. . . . . jcurio: Except for the being a drummer part, I played keyboards, I could have wrote this
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Post by poseygilbert on Mar 28, 2014 17:22:03 GMT -6
There is nothing wrong about how you see and deal with things. My term for how you see things is "To go with awareness." I was not offended by your statements, and want you to always feel free to speak your thoughts truthfully to me Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/4579/dead-jelly-fish?page=1&scrollTo=51499#ixzz2x5SLskgr______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Thank You . I can "admit" that I am often searching for somesort of validation. Even though that sounds like the end-result is for me, we make progress when we talk compassionately with others about this topic. I really cannot do this life thing on my own, without other Humans. It has always been quite the learning process, since humans didn't seem to be available to me from ages birth through kindergarten. I don't agree with 'experts' that disruptive childhood doesn't become part of a permanent character (as also some untreated physical characteristics do- like "lazy eye"/strabismus) unless it continues to age 8. I know, that one of the reasons I value my childhood experience, is because it has given me such a caring for small children . Small children need to be heard. Their value system is developed from their perception; not mine or anyone elses'. It is so hard to know what's best for each individual's development other than nutrition and shelter. jcurio First of all I like the new avatar.
Eyes shut, mouth closed, ears open, is how the inner teaching begins.
GOD sits at the center of your soul.
Seeker, seek in. Reacher, reach in. All things they stem, from the power of The O.
You are already there. Utilize The O.
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Post by poseygilbert on Mar 28, 2014 18:17:26 GMT -6
For some reason, you have the luxury of knowing the difference between these different beings. Even though you somehow explain these "differences" that you perceive, I haven't found anywhere in your writings exactly how you came to these conclusions. Yes, this is where popular human opinion can benefit us, because I too have heard that "aliens" can be addressed in a manner of obtaining permission. and some things WE feel WE just know (or have been told). I can only go by what I know to be my truth, until someone(s) are able to convince me of "another truth". Maybe, this is your "Gift", to be able to differentiate species. I imagine a lot of pain and suffering to get to this point.. . . it would be awesome if others could come to the same conclusion, through you, without having to experience every bit of it firsthand. Hey, I'm all for some experiences . If it wasn't for what Jesus has done for me, I would have rejected my families devotion to "church", long, long, ago. jcurio: Very good question jcurio: Nontal activity don't trigger the rise of POSEY and The Crew that "The Guys" do.
Although they used to scare the hell out of me I never felt that overpowering energy.
If my Muse had not pointed it out to me, and my Magnetic Mine Road Experience up in Brewster New York never happened, I don't think I'd ever been able to separate one from the other and would not have noticed it. You see it was both my Muse and "The Guys" themselves that taught me to tell the difference between them I hope this post helps you to understand. It took me years. (Slow Learner) I guess
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Post by poseygilbert on Mar 28, 2014 19:37:28 GMT -6
. . . . and still, Posey did not answer my question . You (Posey) and I both know about the instance where you were helped, simply by your muse getting you to focus on your dogs, instead of what was happening at the moment to yourself And you and I both know that situation was probably what you call a "nont". Even if "they", meaning 'aliens', truly can't be stopped, can I make a comparison to the "normal aging process of a human"? It can't be altogether stopped either, but we're sure going to try, and in the meantime we're going to find some pleasant and not-so-pleasant ways of making the process better. True jcurio: In my early 20s Ralph once complained to me,
"Butch even as a kid you have always been an old camudgen, what are you going to be like when you're in your 60s?"
My answer? "Much better at it."
Once you come to know and accept what you are dealing with, you learn to handle it better. But first you must come to know and accept what you are dealing with. Get pass that, and the rest is caster oil, not easy to swallow, but it will help to get some of that stuff out if you.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2014 19:40:27 GMT -6
"Over the last two decades other than b!tch and moan about the aliens did to you, what have you done for others than pronounce unfounded judgement on their understanding of a phenomenon you are still and have been too afraid to look at?" Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/4579/dead-jelly-fish#ixzz2xJJqRRFl_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Posey, I was offended by this statement. You could have phrased it a totally different way, and I know Jo would have been happy to explain to you the things she has done. Believe me, I get just as "irked" when someone spells out what a long way I've come (as in defensiveness) and then shows that she can also be defensive. But in this case, with this wording, who wouldn't be? Personally, I don't like someone to reference my past, to make statements, or even compliments about me. My goodness! Every day is a new day! Do I need someone to remind me that I should be constantly growing? Some people just feel the need to point out the obvious. I have to remember that it is their need. They really don't mean any harm. But again, its all in the way it is said.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2014 19:43:29 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2014 20:04:17 GMT -6
Well Posey...I'm not exactly sure 'this' time but this might be a clue: I AM sorry but that is offensive to others here. You might have just said...to be honest folks...I don't care about anyone's opinion but mine. A nicer phrasing...if not a nicer message. We all go out of our way to listen and respect other opinions here...like each other...care about each other. Your opinion is only as welcome as any other. It's not because you are green or religious or the president..it is just nice to find nice ways to express what isn't nice in the first place. I would like to see you stay here and contribute for a long time...maybe even learn to value those other pesky opinions...but the forum isn't about one person...it's some people with a basic 'knowing' that goes beyond common ground. You never know...one of us might be 'right' and you 'wrong' or the reverse....and as I suspect...none of us are right exactly. We ALL have a lot to learn. Part of the fun of being here...is conjecture..tossing ideas around...finding comparisons. We all have experiences....it's nice to toss them out and let others give their ideas and opinions of them...it's not like any of us have the answers. Somewhere in here...are lists we've made of things we all have in common when it comes to experiences we've had. It gives us connection..adhesion. How we felt..what we smelled...heard...what kind of children were we...when did we know we were psychic....etc. I hope you'll share that with us too.
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Post by poseygilbert on Mar 28, 2014 21:36:52 GMT -6
"Over the last two decades other than b!tch and moan about the aliens did to you, what have you done for others than pronounce unfounded judgement on their understanding of a phenomenon you are still and have been too afraid to look at?" Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/4579/dead-jelly-fish#ixzz2xJJqRRFl_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Posey, I was offended by this statement. You could have phrased it a totally different way, and I know Jo would have been happy to explain to you the things she has done. Believe me, I get just as "irked" when someone spells out what a long way I've come (as in defensiveness) and then shows that she can also be defensive. But in this case, with this wording, who wouldn't be? Personally, I don't like someone to reference my past, to make statements, or even compliments about me. My goodness! Every day is a new day! Do I need someone to remind me that I should be constantly growing? Some people just feel the need to point out the obvious. I have to remember that it is their need. They really don't mean any harm. But again, its all in the way it is said. jcurio: That is an expression commonly used in mixed company in NYC and no one blinks an eye.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2014 22:24:18 GMT -6
Seems I owe you an apology JC...when I meant...to compliment. I wasn't as offended by Posey's language as others here are...and what I was trying to do was diffuse. I think Posey (and forgive me for discussing you in front of you Posey) can make a unique contribution here...and I would hate to see him leave. Sometimes..we just have to understand parameters..now I also know you have some and I won't be as ...candid in my conversations I do apologize. I understand your New York reference Posey...it's almost like a little alien universe all it's own....or California is...maybe that's closer Jo...is now going to go find another belfry to roost in.
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Post by poseygilbert on Mar 28, 2014 22:53:21 GMT -6
"Although they used to scare the hell out of me I never felt that overpowering energy." Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/4579/dead-jelly-fish?page=2&scrollTo=51630#ixzz2xJOW5lRn________________________________________________________________________________ Whoa! Big Clue! Are you saying that while a "Nont" is basically "sucking" energy, you feel "energy" around you?? Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Good thinking jcurio: But no, Nonts live off the psychic / emotional energy or responses they can get from you.
Alien energy is a tsunami that floods through you short-circuiting your every control. But I do not know if this is their way of protecting themselves and maybe me too from POSEY and his Crew. Nonts once you focus on yourself they can't feed, if they can't feed they leave. Aliens always have agendas that "They" will / must carry out despite your protests. All of them seem to be working for a higher Echelon, even the human looking ones like My Muse as well as those Muses I once called The Winds but I now call The Council Of The Winds which I feel do not look human at all.
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Post by poseygilbert on Mar 28, 2014 23:43:23 GMT -6
Seems I owe you an apology JC...when I meant...to compliment. I wasn't as offended by Posey's language as others here are...and what I was trying to do was diffuse. I think Posey (and forgive me for discussing you in front of you Posey) can make a unique contribution here...and I would hate to see him leave. Sometimes..we just have to understand parameters..now I also know you have some and I won't be as ...candid in my conversations I do apologize. I understand your New York reference Posey...it's almost like a little alien universe all it's own....or California is...maybe that's closer Jo...is now going to go find another belfry to roost in. Look guys you two are some of my favorite people here.
If my actions or words here offended or hurt you or anyone else here know that, that was not my intent. I don't want you or anyone here to stop being who you are (Human) with, or for me. That is not why I am here, before I'd do that I'd leave on my own accord. Look I got big feet size 15 EEEE (Well, since the amputation Bigfoot is more appropriate.) so I am going to step on toes, and expect that mine will be trodden upon at times too, but there is nothing so bad that can happen here that we can't talk about it publicly or in a simple PM.
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Post by poseygilbert on Mar 29, 2014 5:03:36 GMT -6
Well Posey...I'm not exactly sure 'this' time but this might be a clue: I AM sorry but that is offensive to others here. You might have just said...to be honest folks...I don't care about anyone's opinion but mine. A nicer phrasing...if not a nicer message. We all go out of our way to listen and respect other opinions here...like each other...care about each other. Your opinion is only as welcome as any other. It's not because you are green or religious or the president..it is just nice to find nice ways to express what isn't nice in the first place. I would like to see you stay here and contribute for a long time...maybe even learn to value those other pesky opinions...but the forum isn't about one person...it's some people with a basic 'knowing' that goes beyond common ground. You never know...one of us might be 'right' and you 'wrong' or the reverse....and as I suspect...none of us are right exactly. We ALL have a lot to learn. Part of the fun of being here...is conjecture..tossing ideas around...finding comparisons. We all have experiences....it's nice to toss them out and let others give their ideas and opinions of them...it's not like any of us have the answers. Somewhere in here...are lists we've made of things we all have in common when it comes to experiences we've had. It gives us connection..adhesion. How we felt..what we smelled...heard...what kind of children were we...when did we know we were psychic....etc. I hope you'll share that with us too. Jo: If I actually used the real word then I do apologize, I meant ! not i.
That said, when I was invited here, it was to share my experiences, with others like me, not to hear opinions. Not that I find anything wrong with people sharing opinions, but I've been through 40 plus years of opinions. There's alzheimer's on both sides of my family, I lost my Grandpa Oliver, my father and all his brothers, only one of his four sisters remain. My Grandpa Oliver was 110 when alzheimer's took him, maybe I'll be like him though none of his sons were. Five years after Pop, Mom Succumbed to it too so I know it's all just a matter of time. Although I still have a good memory about the weird stuff, the everyday stuff slips right away. So I try to reserve my brain for what is important to me. My post are long because I try to put every detail I can remember in them for the time that I won't remember any of it at all. This is not said for pity, for pity is, worth less than opinions are to me. It is information that I want / need, and have room for in the ever shrinking limited space in my head these days. -------------------------------------------
As for being psychic Jo I thought everyone was just the same as I was. It took Ralph to pull my coat tail to the fact that my thinking this was all wrong. From birth till today I have never seen the same world that everyone else does. The world I see is in constant motion, everything outside my straight line of vision seems to be moving in little circles to me, not only do they do that but they seem to come closer and move further back. If I fix my vision on one spot on the wall in front of me the whole room will start to move and tilt clockwise then counter clockwise, as the wall starts to move forth and back, while the ceiling, floor and side walls also seem to move inward and back out from the center. All the while the things on the wall ceiling, floor and side walls continue their separate movements. I was using the way these things moved in an attempt to explain the motions of something I'd seen happen to Ralph when his eyebrows almost vanished into his hair line as I was talking. He got so silent and looked at me so intensely that I stopped talking and asked him, "What, you don't see that?" To which he answered, "Butch... Not only don't I see that... But no one else in the world sees that... But you... " "What you are seeing are the other dimensions around us." Twenty three years later in 2011 these words would be repeated "verbatim" to me over dinner by a psychic as I was explaining this phenomena to some interested parties. Until Ralph's comments in 1986 I did not know that the world was seen any differently than I had seen it growing up. How would I? No one ever made comment on it, so to me it was as natural as the sky being blue, that things in the world never stood still.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2014 9:55:51 GMT -6
This is all very nice. I'm not going anywhere, as I've said many and mini times . Even if I have nothing left to give, I'm committed to this venture by Skywalker. I'm not offended by language. I am sorry if that is what was taken by what I said . I tend to B!tgh and Moan, especially if I've tried to keep it all inside. I initially was very reluctant to express my opinion on this recent matter, because it becomes more and more evident that I can't stand up for other people the way that I would like to. In the real world (not speaking on the 'Net), I would be simply standing, fists raised (hee, hee) next to my friend, ready to fight off any perceived bully(ies). As a teenager, there were actually times that I was standing next to a friend (among other friends) and after I figured out who the real bully(ies) were, my loyalties changed. And then, through my own divorce and child custody battle, I became a staunch believer in "You never know what goes on behind closed doors" (referring to relationships, period). And again, this is why I rarely use PM on here. Anyway, my growth has been stunted many times by generalized sayings of the Times I grew up in. Such as : " He/She who yells loudest. . . " and Sticks and Stones may break my bones but . . . " . . . Where do these frickin' statements come from? (and don't get used to me cussin', 'cuz if you read my posts at all, I am on a mission to become "righteous"/holy; if it is possible ). I've worked with the public for many years. If I don't raise my eyebrows on Kindergarteners cussing or talking about s3x, please excuse me . I live in the "mid west". When I was 17 years old I lived in California for 3 mo, so 30 yrs. ago it was apparent in something as simple as " movies" (a movie coming out in Ca. took 6 more months to show in Mo.) how far my area was "behind". It is no longer so . I've never been farther East than Ohio or Indiana, and my large family also resides anywhere this side of Chicago (with relatives in Chicago), and I don't know why that is. In the past 5 yrs., I have gone from 6 close relative families living in Ca., down to one. Not because of death(s). I'm sure New York would be a treat for me, because reality shows, etc., don't compass the real thing. I don't watch much Tv, but people around me do, so I was recently "privy" to Spike complaining about a certain part of New York now looking like the "W3stminister Dog Show". I would have loved to live there when there were drums playing in the Park!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2014 9:57:27 GMT -6
Well Posey....I believe that the dear lord likes variety...in his kids too. We are all unique...and in this place especially so. When you came here...well we thought you were like anyone else..share some stories..get some new perspectives. Now that we're more aware of your reasoning..we can be more with the ear..less with the questions. Well...mostly. Thank you for taking the time to explain that. I AM in this computerized version of a world...EXACTLY as I am in the grounded version of it...and I think you are too Posey. No made up BS..just the real deal. Do people actually alter themselves to come here? What would be the point then? Thank you very much Posey.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2014 10:59:14 GMT -6
I AM in this computerized version of a world...EXACTLY as I am in the grounded version of it...and I think you are too Posey. No made up BS..just the real deal. Do people actually alter themselves to come here? What would be the point then? . Well, I can admit that I'm "different" when I come here. Here, I can hit the pause button, or otherwise think a little more carefully when I "speak". The point being? Hopefully you're getting the more refined part of me .
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2014 12:05:11 GMT -6
[/div] As for being psychic Jo I thought everyone was just the same as I was. It took Ralph to pull my coat tail to the fact that my thinking this was all wrong. From birth till today I have never seen the same world that everyone else does. The world I see is in constant motion, everything outside my straight line of vision seems to be moving in little circles to me, not only do they do that but they seem to come closer and move further back. If I fix my vision on one spot on the wall in front of me the whole room will start to move and tilt clockwise then counter clockwise, as the wall starts to move forth and back, while the ceiling, floor and side walls also seem to move inward and back out from the center. All the while the things on the wall ceiling, floor and side walls continue their separate movements. I was using the way these things moved in an attempt to explain the motions of something I'd seen happen to Ralph . . . No one ever made comment on it, so to me it was as natural as the sky being blue, that things in the world never stood still.
[/div][/quote] You're not the "only one" who sees things this way . However, after fighting it for many years, mine is relegated to the very outside(s) of my vision. I can't totally get rid of it; and wouldn't want to now. After spending a great deal of my life feeling and knowing that I was quite different than those around me, when a gentleman "warned" that if I kept being disturbed by it, it might just go away, I leaped at the chance.I think, that if the poster Bewildered would get on here again, he could talk in such a way about his vision also. You are never alone. Again, I am so glad you came here .
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2014 12:10:34 GMT -6
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Post by poseygilbert on Mar 29, 2014 19:37:40 GMT -6
This is all very nice. I'm not going anywhere, as I've said many and mini times . Even if I have nothing left to give, I'm committed to this venture by Skywalker. I'm not offended by language. I am sorry if that is what was taken by what I said . I tend to B!tgh and Moan, especially if I've tried to keep it all inside. I initially was very reluctant to express my opinion on this recent matter, because it becomes more and more evident that I can't stand up for other people the way that I would like to. In the real world (not speaking on the 'Net), I would be simply standing, fists raised (hee, hee) next to my friend, ready to fight off any perceived bully(ies). As a teenager, there were actually times that I was standing next to a friend (among other friends) and after I figured out who the real bully(ies) were, my loyalties changed. And then, through my own divorce and child custody battle, I became a staunch believer in "You never know what goes on behind closed doors" (referring to relationships, period). And again, this is why I rarely use PM on here. Anyway, my growth has been stunted many times by generalized sayings of the Times I grew up in. Such as : " He/She who yells loudest. . . " and Sticks and Stones may break my bones but . . . " . . . Where do these frickin' statements come from? (and don't get used to me cussin', 'cuz if you read my posts at all, I am on a mission to become "righteous"/holy; if it is possible ). I've worked with the public for many years. If I don't raise my eyebrows on Kindergarteners cussing or talking about s3x, please excuse me . I live in the "mid west". When I was 17 years old I lived in California for 3 mo, so 30 yrs. ago it was apparent in something as simple as " movies" (a movie coming out in Ca. took 6 more months to show in Mo.) how far my area was "behind". It is no longer so . I've never been farther East than Ohio or Indiana, and my large family also resides anywhere this side of Chicago (with relatives in Chicago), and I don't know why that is. In the past 5 yrs., I have gone from 6 close relative families living in Ca., down to one. Not because of death(s). I'm sure New York would be a treat for me, because reality shows, etc., don't compass the real thing. I don't watch much Tv, but people around me do, so I was recently "privy" to Spike complaining about a certain part of New York now looking like the "W3stminister Dog Show". I would have loved to live there when there were drums playing in the Park!! Bravo! Bravo! Bravo! You rock jcurio! Woo! Woo!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2014 4:32:06 GMT -6
I had to come back here tonight and again read your (Posey) account of your vision. I have something new to add. I have "seen" this particular vision anomaly, but only in certain light, or fabric. By "fabric" I do actually mean like the covering on a pillow. For example, a pattern of squares, or chessboard type pattern I get a "vibration" in the middle of looking at said pattern. In the past, I just assumed that I saw the pillow mildly vibrating on a chair, like, say someone walks by on the floor near it. If I look through spokes of a wheel, or like the spindles of a staircase, or slats in the back of a chair, instead of the vision "spinning" like you talked about above, I get a definite side to side movement, which makes the 'slats' look like the sun or light shining through, and casting a shadow by each 'slat'. Because it (the shadow) moves so much slower, I talked on another thread about "seeing things" (that weren't normally in my house) down the hall, by looking through the "moving slats". I've also talked somewhere on here about seeing things in "slo-mo" motion around me, while I'm walking normally (and no, Angelina Jo did not train me for "w4nted", but that's a pretty great example of side-to side-slo-mo). anyway, last week I casually mentioned a pattern on a pillow vibrating (right in front of us) to one of my daughters and she said "everybody see's that". Do they? This same daughter was able to understand some years ago how I could look at "moving shadows" , to figure out "timing" on pulling out between cars while driving, any time of day, etc. No big whup there; just sposed to be looking down the road instead of at the road. . . . its hard to explain. Yesterday, I was looking at the back of my head, mirror in hand, mirror behind me (cowlick, ya know), and I saw myself vibrate. ha! Well I moved closer to the mirror, thinking "I'm tired" or something, and did it again! I mean, I can see practically anything vibrate. of course it dawned on me that this is what I've always seen (even with the shadows), just at different speeds, angles, etc. Theoretically (or not) I understand this, but why didn't I even think of this before?? And I "saw" how I could "apply" it in the mirror scenario, but with myself it was a little, um, creepy
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Post by poseygilbert on Apr 9, 2014 14:59:04 GMT -6
I had to come back here tonight and again read your (Posey) account of your vision. I have something new to add. I have "seen" this particular vision anomaly, but only in certain light, or fabric. By "fabric" I do actually mean like the covering on a pillow. For example, a pattern of squares, or chessboard type pattern I get a "vibration" in the middle of looking at said pattern. In the past, I just assumed that I saw the pillow mildly vibrating on a chair, like, say someone walks by on the floor near it. If I look through spokes of a wheel, or like the spindles of a staircase, or slats in the back of a chair, instead of the vision "spinning" like you talked about above, I get a definite side to side movement, which makes the 'slats' look like the sun or light shining through, and casting a shadow by each 'slat'. Because it (the shadow) moves so much slower, I talked on another thread about "seeing things" (that weren't normally in my house) down the hall, by looking through the "moving slats". I've also talked somewhere on here about seeing things in "slo-mo" motion around me, while I'm walking normally (and no, Angelina Jo did not train me for "w4nted", but that's a pretty great example of side-to side-slo-mo). anyway, last week I casually mentioned a pattern on a pillow vibrating (right in front of us) to one of my daughters and she said "everybody see's that". Do they? This same daughter was able to understand some years ago how I could look at "moving shadows" , to figure out "timing" on pulling out between cars while driving, any time of day, etc. No big whup there; just sposed to be looking down the road instead of at the road. . . . its hard to explain. Yesterday, I was looking at the back of my head, mirror in hand, mirror behind me (cowlick, ya know), and I saw myself vibrate. ha! Well I moved closer to the mirror, thinking "I'm tired" or something, and did it again! I mean, I can see practically anything vibrate. of course it dawned on me that this is what I've always seen (even with the shadows), just at different speeds, angles, etc. Theoretically (or not) I understand this, but why didn't I even think of this before?? And I "saw" how I could "apply" it in the mirror scenario, but with myself it was a little, um, creepy Jcurio:
Again you hit the nail on the head. We indeed are seeing the same things. I see the same phenomena especially the one dealing with the patterning of prints on fabrics but also with moving and stationary spokes, or blades in a fan too. As for the patterning of prints on fabrics, I try to avoid multiple color or flowery schemes on any clothing or furniture I buy for myself, so I always have chosen only solid colors mainly black as my default color. Multiple color or flower schemes are always in constant motion to me and is like and on going "Blaring Cacophony" of background noises, but only to my eyes. Of course my parents and siblings thought of black and darkness as witchcraft and devil worship, although my having a black cat named "Satan" didn't help to quell those fears I guess, that and my father's blown way out of proportion over reaction to my asking for a coffin for my thirteenth birthday, I guess didn't help much either. In dark rooms I see the movement of what looks like "Gray Shadows" as Mom called them, and in lit rooms I see "Quick Shadows." as she called the free standing black silhouettes we all so often see out of the corner of our eyes. Images in pictures move also and so no pictures of people are on my walls either. Slow motion vision happens when something is thrown in my direction or something suddenly surprises me, hence I hate sports in which things are tossed or propelled at me. But getting back to "Seeing Things" as for the chess or checker board effect a while ago off and on I'd see a free floating fog in my apartment in a perfect chess or checker board array. After awhile it stopped happening, and I stopped thinking about it until you mentioned the chess or checker board effect, I had filed it under, "The Stuff That Only Happened To Me Files" that I later renamed as "P.L.G Phenomena." Because I thought it only happened to me meaning it only happened in my head. Thanks to this forum I am now beginning to see it wasn't just me. These days all you hear is the so called New Agers ranting on and in about The Indigo and The Star Children as if it's all something au current and unseen before. Since I was invited to and came to this forum I have come to know that this is not true. The Indigo and The Star Children have walked amongst us since the 40s if not since the beginning of humanity, maybe not in the numbers as "We" do today, but only because the population was not as big as it is today. This does not mean "We" are superior to other humans, because "We" are not. This does not mean "We" are better suited to run the world than other humans, because "We" are not. This does not mean "We" are more evolved than other humans, because "We" are not. This does not mean "We" are other than other humans, because "We" are not. We are just humans with better access to that which every other human has asleep inside them, in that other 90% of brain and psychic abilities that "We All" were blinded to back in the times of Babylon, and has since then been messed with and messed up both by other Entities and Human Beings alike, so much so that "We All" can't recognize "Us All" as one species instead of being many separate races. Hopefully in time "We All" will come to remember fully, and fully access that which so long ago was taken from us. Maybe "We" are just de-evolving or devolving back to our natural state of being, some of us just a little faster than others that's all. Forums such as this where "We" are allowed to freely speak of our experiences with others like "Us" may help speed up this process as "We" come to know that what "We" have been experiencing all these years has a basis in fact, and maybe once enough of all of "Us" come to know this us so "Our" racial memory will kick in. Then like the 100th monkey "We All" willl come to know, reconnect to and reawaken "Our" true nature and abilities. I feel that there are some that want to aid "Us" in doing this, as there are others that want "Us" to remain asleep.
This forum promotes the former.
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