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Post by auntym on Oct 23, 2014 12:39:52 GMT -6
I have come full circle on this again and again. Nothing changes. If you read under my post you will see .. I think it is better safe than sorry and advice no one to go near ufos . Those on the ground or a few feet in the air. And yet I come back to the idea I had as I approached the ship which is. " I know these beings I have always known them," then I actually tease them like I would a sister. I was on one side of the green beam as it came down between me and the other half the ship's under hang I could see very well through the green beam . I'm looking at the beam as it is leaving the giant porthole. Just beyond the far rim of the porthole the green shows me the ships under hang. I tell them . Oh you think you have your ship invisible to me but I can see you very well." How stupid of me. Of course they knew what they were letting me see. I was joking and laughing about it but only after the thought of I have always known you. It was not like they were making me unafraid this time. The aftermath for what ever it means is what keeps me unsure. If you are unsure which you should be. No one human on this earth really knows a darn thing about the aliens who is piloting the ships or their agenda. But yet I want more proof so I walk right toward anything coming at me in the sky and yes there is no fear. It is like knowing but not knowing how you know. Does that make sense? the memory is there on the edge and what ever it is makes me unafraid when I see them. If it is only a plane but I have second thoughts that what I see is not a plane maybe . I still go running after it I know I'm crazy but one of these days if there is enough time left I may get those beings on a film . If it is all in vain, there are thousands of others who left this world not knowing as well. i understand what you're saying lois...i also have experienced those feelings of being amongst friends...i have only had positive experiences... i am in their ships, i am talking to them, i have history with them & we are laughing together like old friends do...and i'm happy... it all sounds sooo weird...
i do read about the negative encounters everyone here has experienced...it scares me, but, i don't identify with it, and i'm happy about that...
sometimes i wonder if the negative experiences could be the government (the part that is in contact with them) masking themselves as aliens to keep us afraid of them... that thought has crossed my mind more than once...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 16:50:34 GMT -6
sometimes i wonder if the negative experiences could be the government (the part that is in contact with them) Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/5084/abduction-flash-light?page=2#ixzz3HIHuf8vs___________________________________________________________________________________ I think a fraction of our government is involved. And, at one time these people of our government thought "they" were friendly too . . . Don't get me wrong, I still believe there are several types of "them". And they have different goals and personalities. But I think a lot of people have been "duped".
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Post by plutronus on Oct 26, 2014 22:37:03 GMT -6
JCurio, SETV is a public website intended for public viewing. I wrote that website to be palatable to an academic audience. Everything is candy-coated and I worked hard on the general presentation theme to be academically politically-correct. While it is obvious that the right-hemis are both experiencing ET contact (whether or not invited) and are able to remember the events; it is very likely that only the academically trained will be able to make sense of ET behaviors. We need them to solve the ET presence problems, however, most academics either are not being abducted or perhaps due to the neuro-physical 'wiring arrangement' they can't remember the events. In any case most academics are unaware of the ongoing ET presence situation. The SETV search model is intended to indoctrinate scientific people to the possibilities of ET visitation through familiar application of robotic-probes. We are probing other worlds. If we can do it, why can't they? Thanks for the consideration. plutronus
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Post by paulette on Oct 27, 2014 11:20:59 GMT -6
JCurio and Lois - The sense that I know who's hovering up there and have all my life is strong with me. And going outside anyway -in some ways, inviting recontact, in another refusing to be driven inside on a starry night. I think fearlessness is definitely a quality they look for. In the Travis Walton story - the Visitors could have had the whole truckful of loggers - but took the guy who walked forward and looked up.
I'm certainly NOT SAYING that everyone is a willing participant. I've read enough accounts to know this isn't true. But there are those that stop the car, look up, walk forward. They often are the ones with most remembered and intense experiences. IMO anyway. The ones that don't want to know are probably more adaptable to a memory wipe but if there is ANYTHING communicated in the meetings, they were be the hardest to work with psi wise. Fear is the mind killer...
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Post by plutronus on Oct 28, 2014 12:02:29 GMT -6
JCurio and Lois - The sense that I know who's hovering up there and have all my life is strong with me. And going outside anyway -in some ways, inviting recontact, in another refusing to be driven inside on a starry night. I think fearlessness is definitely a quality they look for. In the Travis Walton story - the Visitors could have had the whole truckful of loggers - but took the guy who walked forward and looked up. I'm certainly NOT SAYING that everyone is a willing participant. I've read enough accounts to know this isn't true. But there are those that stop the car, look up, walk forward. They often are the ones with most remembered and intense experiences. IMO anyway. The ones that don't want to know are probably more adaptable to a memory wipe but if there is ANYTHING communicated in the meetings, they were be the hardest to work with psi wise. Fear is the mind killer... Paulette, You have quite sufficiently described an aspect of one of the most intriguing and confusing ET Contact 'messages' with which ET presence investigators are struggling to understand. Apparently, and once again, it seems obvious that there is an interspeciel incommensurability in reasoning that exacerbates confusion. However there are numerous 'invisible-college' academics who are working these and other non-obvious problems. There are several theories being debated in the ET-contact and abduction psychology community regarding the matter. ET and-or their mecha are seemingly attracted to psi-sensitives and this point was the basis of the design of one of the verification experiments I conducted using my 'programmable' ETp experiment platform. PSI-Sensitive people are right-hemi dominant. People who are curious about anomalous things are also typically right hemi-dominant. I speculate that Human abduction are an element of neuro-pathic 'tuning' which ET adjust using Human gene-pool manipulation via the main food-sources that Humans consume. The Human effects of which (as yet are unknown to our science) are regulated through the primary food-chain manipulations which are also being monitored by ET, via the so-called cattle 'mutillation' process. It seems likely to me that there are other processes of which Humans have as yet to recognize. Colm Kelleher's book, "Brain-Trust" is a must read. As you all likely know, Dr. Kelleher **IS** Robert Bigelow's ET Field Unit Research Director (is currently employed by BAAAS) and Kelleher managed the NIDS anomally ranch and directed the other scientists' studies there. The book doesn't mention any aspect of the known ET connection with cattle-mutilations which were studied at the ranch (book was listed on the NYBSL for 36 weeks) while Kelleher describes (via inference) Human neuropathic manipulation through consumption of specifically 'infected' cattle which are a primary Human food source in many parts of the world. Ya wanna a clue what the smart academic guys are thinking about ET? Read Brain-Trust. And its a scholarly read, giving lots of good juicy interesting information. It is generally unknown in the public UFO community at large, that the really smart people ARE quietly watching. The military is terrified, and they are also VERY quietly watching. All of them are gathering information from any source that they can access. These ET contactee websites, such as the TEOR are very closely watched in my opinion. My SETV website is systematically and regularly accessed by both .edu, .gov and .mil domains. Interestingly, the .dia.mil were also regulaly hitting everyday, EVERY PAGE of my 500 page website, including accessing (& downloading) the hidden non-indexed private non-public webpages. Certain ET, especially those who drive the discs are careful about where they are seen (operating) because western military now has the ability and the motive to shoot them down from anyplace within Earthian airspace (remember Pres Reagan's StarWars? and how that shoot-down system works?) ET since the 1970s are being less cavalier in their flight exhibitions, mainly due to the Earthian military shoot-down threat. So why do they persist in operating over people's homes? They are imposing significant risks upon themselves in doing so. The problem, what is ET's interest with right-hemi people so much so that ET are willing to be tagged and shot-down for? plutronus
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 13:28:18 GMT -6
Science of late is saying that the right hemi/left hemi is bunk. I'm very much right brained and I don't much care about scientists that can't make up their minds on a given subject. Right hemisphere folk are much better at adapting..accepting. The lefties are more logical and more apt to break rather than 'bend'..stubborn to a fault. Not to mention that psi people are much more likely to be right brain dominant. Many of us have had the 'feeling' that we called them. Inadvertently...but still. I think..there is projection rather we mean to or not..in all emotional situations. In my case..the first showed up when I was a frantic 6 year old begging God to keep my parents from divorcing. I know that it heard me and was at least..curious. That one stuffed something in my ear and it still rings. BUT..I didn't stay frightened. I was much more upset with the 'bug' buzzing in my ear than the being. A left hemi would probably curl inward and turn autistic from the fear. It just logically wouldn't 'appear'. The second time..well they had me tagged and I know it. It was just time to 'collect' once puberty hit. Again though..fear never crippled me..made me darn mad. And I've tried every way I could think of to explain it as other than the abduction it was..because that's what I do..I have to see all sides. It remains what it is..an abduction of my friend and I on a lovely summer day. I accept they were monstrous in method and appearance..my friend to this day (leftie that she is) can't even remember the day the FBI chased us (same day) much less the critters. They fought her hysteria a long time. My memories are of watching them (frozen) trying to manage her. I was angry and afraid for her. It's not unusual..when I had to have open heart surgery..I didn't have a second of fear..and I've only once in my life had a nightmare at age 5 about snakes. So..I'm sure that's part of the right hemi desirability.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 15:14:24 GMT -6
I know I didn't initially "call them". Even inadvertantly. (This isn't in argument with Jo, because hers was a "general" statement. and I know what she means). I was 4 yrs. old, comfy-crawled behind a propped mattress to nap the time away, until my parents returned for me (which I knew they would, because we were moving into a new home). I chose the room that was to be my new bedroom and it was like a mini-fort/hideout. "They" made me think that it was my favorite uncle come to get me. I was found, shell-shocked in the front yard ( within 30 minutes) by 2 young boys (5 and 6 years older), and I was babbling, and then I was silent, for a long time. My sister (5 yrs. older) just told me this past year what I was babbling about. I said "they put their pe______ (body part) in my mouth". I do not remember this at all, or babbling about it at the time; I seriously considered my sister was mental, or was lying for some unfathomable reason. I denied I ever said such a thing. My only memory of the time, is seeing my uncle (who was never there) pull the mattress away from the wall and smiling down at me. I assume my next memory was just some days later after we had been moved into the house. I don't know. I have a detailed memory of my 3 yr. old birthday at our old house, and another 2 or 3 pre-four years old memories, such as begging for my dad to take the training wheels off my bike and I rode it. I have spent time with therapists, and other such methods of searching my life, for any hint of sexual molestation. My mother had me "checked" quite frequently as a small child, because my diaper was rarely wet or soiled, "she couldn't get me to go", and she took me to the doctor and even the emergency room (?) because of this. (her story now is I just didn't want to go in the diaper and wear it . . . supposedly, after she realized this, she said "You're a smart girl, and you just want to use the big potty" and I used it ever since. I do have memories of being held over the toilet so I wouldn't fall in. Lol). A pediatrician noted in my chart that I was afraid of doctors (no wonder, huh). I grew up with those 2 boys; their 2 little sisters were my best friends and constant companions all through grade school (and church), and partly through middle school. We even turned their basement into a dark, scary, mildly profitting haunted house for several halloweens. After the 'event', I insisted on being baptised at our church very shortly after, and the pastor confirmed beforehand that I "knew what I was doing", though I was only 4. Southern Baptist church? They probably talked one day at "children's church" about demons and fire and brimstone and Jesus could save me from that, and I was on board immediately. I've heard it said that "we have to invite things like vampires" into our life, and I wonder how that saying ever got started.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 15:21:51 GMT -6
PS. that movie "Contact" with Jodi Foster. I thought it was pretty good, until the part where she is somewhere else (supposedly), and meets someone who looks like someone it can't possibly be. I know that some people were "touched" by that movie.
I thank Hollywood for giving me one of my "a ha" moments.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 15:30:41 GMT -6
them to solve the ET presence problems, however, most academics either are not being abducted or perhaps due to the neuro-physical 'wiring arrangement' they can't remember the events Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/5084/abduction-flash-light?page=2#ixzz3HTeRA4TK____________________________________________________________________________________ Careful here, my friend. We already agreed on another page that everyone is being abducted, correct? LOL, I'd like to think my brain has gotten smarter, so "they" have to hide from me more. . . ., but "academics' is a functional thing, no?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 15:35:33 GMT -6
Paulette, You have quite sufficiently described an aspect of one of the most intriguing and confusing ET Contact 'messages' with which ET presence investigators are struggling to understand. Apparently, and once again, it seems obvious that there is an interspeciel incommensurability in reasoning that exacerbates confusion. However there are numerous 'invisible-college' academics who are working these and other non-obvious problems. There are several theories being debated in the ET-contact and abduction psychology community regarding the matter. ET or their mecha seemingly are attracted to psi-sensitives and was the basis of the design of one of the verification experiments I conducted using my 'programmable' ETp experiment platform. PSI-Sensitive people are right-hemi dominant. People who are curious about anomalous things are also typically right hemi-dominant. I speculate that Human abduction are an element of neuro-pathic 'tuning' which ET adjust using Human gene-pool manipulation via the main food-sources that Humans consume. The Human effects of which (as yet are unknown to our science) are regulated through the primary food-chain manipulations which are also being monitered by ET, via the so-called cattle 'mutillation' process. It seems likely to me that there are other processes of which Humans have as yet to recognize. Colm Kelleher's book, "Brain-Trust" is a must read. As you all likely know, Dr. Kelleher **IS** Robert Bigelow's ET Field Unit Research Director (is currently employed by BAAAS) and who managed the NIDS anomaly ranch and directed the other scientists' studies there. That book doesn't mention any aspect of the known ET connection with cattle-mutilations (it was listed on the NYBSL for 14 weeks) while he describes (via inference) Human neuropathic manipulation through cattle which is a primary Human food source. Ya wanna have a clue what the smart academic guys are thinking about ET? Read Brain-Trust. And its a scholarly read. Lots of really juicy interesting information. It is generally unknown in the public UFO community at larger, that the really smart people ARE quietly watching. The military is terrified, and they are also VERY quietly watching. All of them are gathering information from any source that they can access. These ET contactee websites, such as the TEOR are very closely watched in my opinion. My SETV website is systematically and regularly accessed by both .edu, .gov and .mil domains. Interestingly, the .dtic.mil were also regulaly hitting everyday, EVERY PAGE of my 500 page website, including accessing (& downloading) the hidden non-indexed private non-public webpages. Certain ET, especially those who drive the discs are careful about where they are seen (operating) because western military now has the ability and the motive to shoot them down from anyplace within Earthian airspace (remember Pres Reagan's StarWars? and how that shoot-down system works?) ET since the 1970s are being less cavalier in their flight exhibitions, mainly due to the Earthian military shoot-down threat. So why do they persist in operating over people's homes? They are imposing significant risks upon themselves in doing so. The problem, what is ET's interest with right-hemi people that they are willing to be tagged and shot-down for? plutronusPriceless. You could post this all over the web, and certain people would know that you're not "losing it". But would people listen? Please tell me that the intention to dismantle "Star Wars" was just a farce?!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 15:36:12 GMT -6
By 'called' I had more in mind of psychic projection. I'm not meaning argument either..but (to me..what I 'feel') you are psychic and you do project that so it's possible you did attract them just by being you. I don't know if they can project other forms or not..maybe some of them can..what I saw was a grey I just didn't know it until many years later. You have encounters JC that are beyond what most people see..You've 'met' aliens on the street if I'm remembering right what you've mentioned..so the attraction is there. They like you. I have to ask one thing though and please..don't be offended, I don't mean it that way. Putting their 'member' in your mouth is something I have never encountered before..that surely does sound human...and I wonder..if (after the alien encounter) some human found you vulnerable and helped himself..that maybe it got terribly tangled in your mind. I've heard the boasting stories of men meeting the gorgeous alien woman (always gorgeous with vavoom wajangas) and having wild monkey sex..but the thing with a child and oral sex is way far from what I've ever heard and very frightening. I would so much rather that be a human abomination than a universal one I've always hoped that in some respect they were better than we are. Gosh JC I am so sorry you ever went through any of that. Those guys were that much worse than the ones I met who detested touching me.
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Post by paulette on Oct 28, 2014 16:42:59 GMT -6
This thread is heating up!JCurio, I am so sorry that you as a 4 year old underwent something traumatic. I don't want to comment on the particulars but let me just say that one of the confusions that I have juggled since had a memory revealed of me as a child, of no more than 4 and 1/2, in a confined area "like the inside of an egg" unable to leave and that someone smelled bad - well of course I wondered if I had MERELY been totally bewildered by human sexual abuse/molestation. There were people around who went on my Hmmmmmmm list. However that would not explain being afraid and feeling vulnerable to something above me in the sky. And trying to freeze in as small a ball as I could when I heard something (sometimes the train way in the distance) when out in the meadow I wandered in.
I think the older boys would be in my own Hmmmmmmmm catagory but you probably have already looked at this. One does not preclude the other. Small girl in shock, unable to speak....
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Post by auntym on Oct 28, 2014 17:54:04 GMT -6
WOW JC... WHAT A NIGHTMARE!
so sad that happened to you... i hope you are able to find the help you need to deal with these terrible memories
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 18:31:33 GMT -6
As I've said " I know nothing about this. I have always been a "sexual person/magnet", and as I said, as soon as I was able to pay for it myself, (gosh THAT could be a misnomer ) anywaaaaay, I have sought out therapy/counselling to try and find out why sex has/was a driving force in my life (and why it is still important to express that I have been with less than one hand of people in the "knowing" fashion). (I PAID FOR COUNSELLING MYSELF. As soon as I could. !7 yrs. old.) I was PIS_ED that my sister would even suggest such a thing! This past year, 2013-2014. Let's try and undo all the work I've done, and my sister could really care less. I mean, it really is all about her. She was gone for eight years to California. I went and visited her. She comes home (2011), and within 1 week of arriving home, she mentions to me and my kids (out of nowhere) my event of sleepwalking and my folks finding me in the car (it was locked previously, and no footprints in the snow). I don't even know how she and I got on this subject. She has told me her version of my 4 yr. old events, but NEVER told me this part. I had already questioned, blah, blah, about those 2 boys, family friends, before this. I've tried to put all kinds of things/people with my young, sexual knowledge. Believe me, this all would be much easier if I could pinpoint a human predator, don't ya think? I'm not mad at you guys. You know I claim paranormal happenings, and I have not mentioned this before. Hey, its pretty new to me too. Go ahead and be skeptical. Either my sister is becoming a "mental case", or just maybe, I need to question HER further about weird things that have happened to her. I got her talking one time about finding her pjs on wrong one morning (in California), and I was very careful about pressing her. and OK, Jo. My "person" could have called them. I get it. Coming across an 'alien' just walking down the street or something like that? No, I don't recall saying that. I did say that sometimes I see shadow people in every day life. Most of the time these "beings" are attached to someone when I see "shadows" out in public. Inside somewhere, they seem to have a little more "freedom" to be independant of a human being present. I am (and so are these humans) aware when I run across someone else who is in tune with their psychic ability. We share a "knowing"; even 100 oe so feet apart. I have talked about not making eye contact with people when I know I'm in an "intense" mode (strangers or friends). Please refresh me where I have seen an "alien" in my waking life, because it has been quite a jpurney with "them" taking me places, and never showing me themselves (they always stand just out of my line of sight; even when I turn). I hope that in the future, if my attention to detail is unclear, that you continue to ask me questions, as you have done now. No sarcasm . If anything, this will crack me up later, because I haven't had sex for so many years now, and even Sunbow questioned that. Yes, it is difficult to be this way. I still dream about it (having sex ). But not anything even close to the horror my sister tried to give me . . . .
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 18:35:24 GMT -6
WOW JC... WHAT A NIGHTMARE!
so sad that happened to you... i hope you are able to find the help you need to deal with these terrible memoriesWHAT MEMORIES?? THE MEMORY OF MY SISTER TELLING ME THIS TIDBIT JUST THIS PAST YEAR?! yah, I'm going to go BACK to therapy because I hate my sister. PLEASE, don't make me sorry I brought this up. I sure hope other people reading TEOR don't just skim my writing!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 18:44:04 GMT -6
Oh, and don't forget the TIME part I put in italics.
This part really stumped me. Thirty minutes? Most people talk about "missing time". 2 hours or more.
Before I even knew about this latest tidbit my sister fed me, I questioned my parents about that time factor.
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Post by auntym on Oct 28, 2014 20:44:56 GMT -6
WOW JC... WHAT A NIGHTMARE!
so sad that happened to you... i hope you are able to find the help you need to deal with these terrible memoriesWHAT MEMORIES?? THE MEMORY OF MY SISTER TELLING ME THIS TIDBIT JUST THIS PAST YEAR?! yah, I'm going to go BACK to therapy because I hate my sister. PLEASE, don't make me sorry I brought this up. I sure hope other people reading TEOR don't just skim my writing! sorry jc...after re-reading what you wrote, i guess i was skimming...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 21:02:22 GMT -6
Apology accepted . (now what should I do with my sister and her possible fantasies? )
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Post by plutronus on Oct 28, 2014 22:44:48 GMT -6
Apology accepted :). (now what should I do with my sister and her possible fantasies? :D :o ) Ignore the rationalizations of those things she doesn't understand and that she has her Kharmic conditions to also work through. What ever may be the root, in any case it is her problem not yours. plutronus
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 23:23:22 GMT -6
JC..you are a very complicated person..a very deep thinker who's just trying to come to terms with fractions of memory. Don't pay attention to the sister who can't begin to walk in your shoes. I think (excuse this because I don't know her) that she has some jealousy or envy going on that she needs to wound you with questions you haven't the answers for or happenings you have memory of. I love that you 'shop' around for possible answers because I do that too..and I think it helps me. I'm also very glad that you shared..it can't be easy. Thank you
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 11:55:53 GMT -6
Ignore the rationalizations of those things she doesn't understand and that she has her Kharmic conditions to also work through. What ever may be the root, in any case it is her problem not yours. plutronus
Thank You for your reply. I needed this reminder very much today.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 12:23:44 GMT -6
JC..you are a very complicated person..a very deep thinker who's just trying to come to terms with fractions of memory. . . Obviously its more than that . My family is often "poison" to me, and you guys understand that. If not more clearly, now. I heard my mom talking on the phone with her younger brother on Tuesday, "After she (me) has her iron-treatment tomorrow, I hope she will fix up my dining room". I was sincerely relieved that you, Jo, and Skywalker talked about staying clear of your families after certain lessons learned. I can admit that I feel some jealousy of Lois and the good relations she shares with hers. I can only hope my kids want to see me in the future, half the amount that Lois' kids want to be with her . I hope that its a "good type of jealousy" that Lois hears in it that I admire whatever she's done to keep her family a loving environment. It takes much hard work. Fractions of memory. Again, this was my "clue" that something was amiss in my life. Photographic memory until I drank alcohol, to "forget". (that is an assumption that that is why I enjoyed being hungover. Seriously. Being hungover was my mind calmed down; I didn't get bad headaches with that). More evidence that I am "odd". Enjoying a hangover?? Thank You, Jo. _________________________________________________________________ But back to Plutronus' main, serious question. He may know part of the answer, but that's why we share here; because the people here are honest about needing each other. Even if I know part of the answer, I desire all of your replies. I know we have the technology to screw "them" up. I want to know why "they" continue to go to peoples' homes, and could be shot down, yet "they" don't seem to be deterred. And, if Plutronus is seriously asking this question, he's already thought of neighborhood casualities; attention.
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Post by lois on Nov 8, 2014 23:18:19 GMT -6
JCurio and Lois - The sense that I know who's hovering up there and have all my life is strong with me. And going outside anyway -in some ways, inviting recontact, in another refusing to be driven inside on a starry night. I think fearlessness is definitely a quality they look for. In the Travis Walton story - the Visitors could have had the whole truckful of loggers - but took the guy who walked forward and looked up. I'm certainly NOT SAYING that everyone is a willing participant. I've read enough accounts to know this isn't true. But there are those that stop the car, look up, walk forward. They often are the ones with most remembered and intense experiences. IMO anyway. The ones that don't want to know are probably more adaptable to a memory wipe but if there is ANYTHING communicated in the meetings, they were be the hardest to work with psi wise. Fear is the mind killer... Paulette, You have quite sufficiently described an aspect of one of the most intriguing and confusing ET Contact 'messages' with which ET presence investigators are struggling to understand. Apparently, and once again, it seems obvious that there is an interspeciel incommensurability in reasoning that exacerbates confusion. However there are numerous 'invisible-college' academics who are working these and other non-obvious problems. There are several theories being debated in the ET-contact and abduction psychology community regarding the matter. ET and-or their mecha are seemingly attracted to psi-sensitives and this point was the basis of the design of one of the verification experiments I conducted using my 'programmable' ETp experiment platform. PSI-Sensitive people are right-hemi dominant. People who are curious about anomalous things are also typically right hemi-dominant. I speculate that Human abduction are an element of neuro-pathic 'tuning' which ET adjust using Human gene-pool manipulation via the main food-sources that Humans consume. The Human effects of which (as yet are unknown to our science) are regulated through the primary food-chain manipulations which are also being monitored by ET, via the so-called cattle 'mutillation' process. It seems likely to me that there are other processes of which Humans have as yet to recognize. Colm Kelleher's book, "Brain-Trust" is a must read. As you all likely know, Dr. Kelleher **IS** Robert Bigelow's ET Field Unit Research Director (is currently employed by BAAAS) and Kelleher managed the NIDS anomally ranch and directed the other scientists' studies there. The book doesn't mention any aspect of the known ET connection with cattle-mutilations which were studied at the ranch (book was listed on the NYBSL for 36 weeks) while Kelleher describes (via inference) Human neuropathic manipulation through consumption of specifically 'infected' cattle which are a primary Human food source in many parts of the world. Ya wanna a clue what the smart academic guys are thinking about ET? Read Brain-Trust. And its a scholarly read, giving lots of good juicy interesting information. It is generally unknown in the public UFO community at large, that the really smart people ARE quietly watching. The military is terrified, and they are also VERY quietly watching. All of them are gathering information from any source that they can access. These ET contactee websites, such as the TEOR are very closely watched in my opinion. My SETV website is systematically and regularly accessed by both .edu, .gov and .mil domains. Interestingly, the .dia.mil were also regulaly hitting everyday, EVERY PAGE of my 500 page website, including accessing (& downloading) the hidden non-indexed private non-public webpages. Certain ET, especially those who drive the discs are careful about where they are seen (operating) because western military now has the ability and the motive to shoot them down from anyplace within Earthian airspace (remember Pres Reagan's StarWars? and how that shoot-down system works?) ET since the 1970s are being less cavalier in their flight exhibitions, mainly due to the Earthian military shoot-down threat. So why do they persist in operating over people's homes? They are imposing significant risks upon themselves in doing so. The problem, what is ET's interest with right-hemi people so much so that ET are willing to be tagged and shot-down for? plutronusplutronus.. Brain Trust. Now that book I have to read. Sounds like it is right up my alley. Like the kind of books I look for. Thank you.
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Post by lois on Nov 8, 2014 23:29:45 GMT -6
I have come full circle on this again and again. Nothing changes. If you read under my post you will see .. I think it is better safe than sorry and advice no one to go near ufos . Those on the ground or a few feet in the air. And yet I come back to the idea I had as I approached the ship which is. " I know these beings I have always known them," then I actually tease them like I would a sister. I was on one side of the green beam as it came down between me and the other half the ship's under hang I could see very well through the green beam . I'm looking at the beam as it is leaving the giant porthole. Just beyond the far rim of the porthole the green shows me the ships under hang. I tell them . Oh you think you have your ship invisible to me but I can see you very well." How stupid of me. Of course they knew what they were letting me see. I was joking and laughing about it but only after the thought of I have always known you. It was not like they were making me unafraid this time. The aftermath for what ever it means is what keeps me unsure. If you are unsure which you should be. No one human on this earth really knows a darn thing about the aliens who is piloting the ships or their agenda. But yet I want more proof so I walk right toward anything coming at me in the sky and yes there is no fear. It is like knowing but not knowing how you know. Does that make sense? the memory is there on the edge and what ever it is makes me unafraid when I see them. If it is only a plane but I have second thoughts that what I see is not a plane maybe . I still go running after it I know I'm crazy but one of these days if there is enough time left I may get those beings on a film . If it is all in vain, there are thousands of others who left this world not knowing as well. i understand what you're saying lois...i also have experienced those feelings of being amongst friends...i have only had positive experiences... i am in their ships, i am talking to them, i have history with them & we are laughing together like old friends do...and i'm happy... it all sounds sooo weird...
i do read about the negative encounters everyone here has experienced...it scares me, but, i don't identify with it, and i'm happy about that...
sometimes i wonder if the negative experiences could be the government (the part that is in contact with them) masking themselves as aliens to keep us afraid of them... that thought has crossed my mind more than once...The government.. hum? Never thought of it that way. I hated them the minute I seen the ship for all the rotten scary things they caused me in my teens. By doing something physical to my mind. Not knowing any of it had to do with ships or aliens. I thought I was crazy not knowing why my mind and hearing was so wacko . Always the same time of day and I was always doing the same thing. School homework in my room on the second floor of our house. Very scary. When I realized without a doubt this ship was not from this world and my mind started having this weird state come over me I hated them at that instant. But when it passed and I had to investigate this ship, I started to realize who ever was inside I had seen before and talk to before. It was like oh it is you. I'm not afraid of you. It was like two different types of being were involved since childhood. I will never know. They have not left me yet. I'm getting old every day every year. Yet I still see ships. What do they want from us? what would they gain from our race of people? It is not any resources here that they could find on another thousand planets. It is something to do with every living creature on this earth. Not just us humans.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2014 10:12:23 GMT -6
The world is watching. Doesn't matter if you're smart...less than or in between...military or otherwise. Way too many classifications on a subject which has no experts..only equals. The only 'experts' ARE the Lois's. The ones who actually have encountered and have something to base their 'knowledge' on. I know a lot of 'really' smart people who don't have enough common sense to change a battery in their watch. That doesn't stop them from talking theories..possibilities...etc..or writing books or professing to 'understand'. They never will understand until the day they are laying on a table somewhere..unable to move and being treated as we would and have treated monkeys. With the exact lack of dignity or concern or compassion. The level of degradation and pain and humility inflicted proves one thing to me. We are THAT far beneath them..as a poor little monkey to us. What is there to do but watch and wait.
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Post by paulette on Nov 9, 2014 12:39:07 GMT -6
There are people on this planet who do not willingly kill anything. So that probably means that even eating is problematic. Even eating rice. So that is done very thoughtfully and respectfully. How much respectful eating is done in a McDonald's? Or a steak house? Or at home, in front of the TV shoveling it in and wishing one had whatever fast fried or dipped in butter food object is on the screen instead. OK...I am going somewhere with this...
We consume our fellow life forms on this planet with nary a qualm. They are for us to use. That's drummed in from an early age. Pets are replaceable, food arrives tidily wrapped in clear plastic. We use lab animals to enhance our comfort and safety without thinking much about what the consequences are to them. Also ours to use as we see fit.
If the Visitors seeded us or genetically manipulated us to bring up more useful intelligence, then we are THEIRS. Why not test, and monitor and take samples from us? Kinda like driving out in the truck to check out the herd...
In short, I think Jokelly is right. We are not like them, not equal to them (and I could say God made all beings here - we/they are were created but very few people feel the same as or equal to another lifeform here.) We don't know what they are up to and why should we? It just makes things more complicated for them and us. Well the visitors/owners FEEL THE SAME WAY.
WEll that my pessimistic thought for the day.
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Post by skywalker on Nov 9, 2014 13:55:35 GMT -6
I agree with your pessimistic thought for the day. And Jo's too.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2014 16:21:23 GMT -6
Better to err on the side of caution than to accept with open arms what is hiding a meat cleaver behind it's back (wicked evil grin). It may be pessimistic but sometimes reality just IS. We don't KNOW..and we won't until it's useful that we do.
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Post by lois on Nov 9, 2014 20:41:08 GMT -6
Now how do you think those people who have brought forth thousands of photos and film for ufology to study if they had run and hid we would have nothing but people telling big stories.
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