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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2016 12:11:53 GMT -6
I guess I'll help carny in the 3-ring Lmao
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Post by auntym on Oct 11, 2016 12:57:02 GMT -6
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Post by swamprat on Oct 11, 2016 13:34:31 GMT -6
Dr. James Dobson's US Election Analysis IS TRUMP GOOD FOR AMERICA? I mentioned Sunday that I would speak on this next week. Unfortunately, I found that I was shoehorning this topic into my planned message.
To properly present what I want to speak on Sunday, I may have to leave the Donald out of it! But let me take a minute for those that wonder, and give some of my thoughts.
When I first heard that Trump was entering the race last year, I told my wife that perhaps it was a good thing for the party and America. I knew that he was not a "saint", but I thought that he would be like a bull in a china shop.
He is a disrupter and I believe America could use a fresh thinker especially in the political arena. I didn't think he would get the nomination, but that he would shake up politics as usual. I was correct on the shaking up!
Lance Wallnau likens him to a biblical Cyrus. Someone who is dynamically used of God even though not perceived by many as a God follower. God has used many people in history that I would probably not like or agree with. I?m not sure I would have liked all the disciples, or David, or Moses. Somehow, God did not seem compelled to consult with me on His choices!
I have always admired Winston Churchill. He is seen as one of the greatest national leaders in the 20th century. Last year, I had the privilege of going through the War Museum in London. Winston is a key feature.
His life is controversial. He was not always celebrated as a great leader. He was a bombastic, cigar smoking, at times crude, even misogynistic, leader. It is alleged that he told off color stories to his children before bedtime!
A woman once told him he was disgustingly drunk.His response was "My dear, you are disgustingly ugly, but tomorrow I shall be sober and you will still be ugly!"
There are many websites that discuss the outlandish comments and activities of this great world leader. But, he had exactly what was needed to stop Hitler at the Channel, to rouse a nation to never give up and to partner with America to find final victory in Europe.
You probably wouldn't want him as your pastor, maybe not even your father, but he was the right leader for that moment in England's history.
Such a brazen man, that would go up to the roof of his quarters in central London and smoke cigars as Hitler?s air force bombed all around him. I?m not sure I would have voted for him.... but he was the right man!
I think it would be awesome to have a righteous leader, one that understood the intricacies of the economy, health care, defense, immigration, with great sensitivity to religious institutions, a heart for the poor, a vision for the future. If that leader was a praying person, formidable in the word of God and loved the local church, I would rejoice!
I do not think that is the choice we will have in November.
Instead...we will look for someone who is imperfect, yet will fit the times we are living in. Particularly, that ?whoever? we vote for, will be someone who might possibly have the opportunity to appoint up to three Supreme Court justices. That could radically shape our culture in America for the next 30 years.
The America of our grandchildren could be very different....and that may not be good. We cannot stand on the sidelines. A non-vote is a passive vote for a direction we may very well regret.
So...is Donald Trump good for America? I honestly believe that he has been, already. He has shaken the political system.
Do his comments offend me? At times!
Do I agree with all he says? Not at all!
But could he be a "Cyrus", being raised up by God to preserve America? Nobody liked Gen. Patton, but he sure WAS an instrument of the United States for the right things.
This I know.
I will vote for the best chance for America.
I will pray for our leaders as I have already.
In the end - God will continue to be my source and my hope. I do believe that God has had a hand in America's history.
I hope and pray that He will also have a saving hand in America?s future.
I shudder when I think of the caliber of HILLARY?S APPOINTEES.
GOD HELP US.
James Clayton "Jim" Dobson, Jr. (born April 21, 1936) is an American evangelical Christian author, psychologist, and founder in 1977 of Focus on the Family (FOTF), which he led until 2003. In the 1980s he was ranked as one of the most influential spokesmen for conservative social positions in American public life. Although never an ordained minister, he was called "the nation's most influential evangelical leader" by The New York Times...
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Post by skywalker on Oct 11, 2016 14:33:25 GMT -6
That makes sense.
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Post by auntym on Oct 12, 2016 12:37:51 GMT -6
The Briefing @thebriefing2016 5h5 hours ago
From the Washington Post: "Donald Trump, Putin’s puppet" wapo.st/2d4YSdJ
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Post by auntym on Oct 12, 2016 12:54:46 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2016 14:54:48 GMT -6
What's So Damning About The New Hillary Clinton Emails From WikiLeaks?It would be easier ,IMO, to answer what isn't damning about them, especially the latest round. This is her doing, not Donald's. Lucy has some splainin to do.....so does the rest of her motley crue of deplorables.....
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Post by auntym on Oct 12, 2016 17:02:45 GMT -6
What's So Damning About The New Hillary Clinton Emails From WikiLeaks?It would be easier ,IMO, to answer what isn't damning about them, especially the latest round. This is her doing, not Donald's. Lucy has some splainin to do.....so does the rest of her motley crue of deplorables..... cliff...the FBI has been all over ALL of the emails and declared them ok...the people is just getting to read SOME of what the FBI has declared ok...you will not be able to read all of them because some of them were personal
also, did you know her personal computer was not hacked and the governments was...
there was nothing damning about her emails...
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Post by auntym on Oct 12, 2016 17:59:54 GMT -6
www.nytimes.com/2016/10/11/opinion/donald-trumps-sad-lonely-life.html?partner=msft_msn&_r=0 Donald Trump’s Sad, Lonely Lifeby David Brooks / www.nytimes.com/column/david-brooks?action=click&contentCollection=Opinion&module=ExtendedByline®ion=Header&pgtype=article OCT. 11, 2016 Donald Trump on his private plane. Credit Damon Winter/The New York Times The point of town hall debates is that regular voters get to ask questions. In every town hall I’ve seen, the candidate turns to the voter, listens attentively and directs the answer at least partially back to that person. The candidates do that because it’s polite, because it looks good to be seen taking others seriously and because most of us instinctively want to make some connection with the people we are talking to. Hillary Clinton, not exactly a paragon of intimacy, behaved in the normal manner on Sunday night. But Donald Trump did not. Trump treated his questioners as unrelatable automatons and delivered his answers to the void, even when he had the chance to seem sympathetic to an appealing young Islamic woman. That underlines the essential loneliness of Donald Trump. Politics is an effort to make human connection, but Trump seems incapable of that. He is essentially adviser-less, friendless. His campaign team is made up of cold mercenaries at best and Roger Ailes at worst. His party treats him as a stench it can’t yet remove. He was a germophobe through most of his life and cut off contact with others, and now I just picture him alone in the middle of the night, tweeting out hatred. Trump breaks his own world record for being appalling on a weekly basis, but as the campaign sinks to new low after new low, I find myself experiencing feelings of deep sadness and pity. Imagine if you had to go through a single day without sharing kind little moments with strangers and friends. Imagine if you had to endure a single week in a hate-filled world, crowded with enemies of your own making, the object of disgust and derision. You would be a twisted, tortured shrivel, too, and maybe you’d lash out and try to take cruel revenge on the universe. For Trump this is his whole life. Trump continues to display the symptoms of narcissistic alexithymia, the inability to understand or describe the emotions in the self. Unable to know themselves, sufferers are unable to understand, relate or attach to others. To prove their own existence, they hunger for endless attention from outside. Lacking internal measures of their own worth, they rely on external but insecure criteria like wealth, beauty, fame and others’ submission. In this way, Trump seems to be denied all the pleasures that go with friendship and cooperation. Women could be sources of love and affection, but in his disordered state he can only hate and demean them. His attempts at intimacy are gruesome parodies, lunging at women as if they were pieces of meat. Most of us derive a warm satisfaction when we feel our lives are aligned with ultimate values. But Trump lives in an alternative, amoral Howard Stern universe where he cannot enjoy the sweetness that altruism and community service can occasionally bring. Bullies only experience peace when they are cruel. Their blood pressure drops the moment they beat the kid on the playground. Imagine you are Trump. You are trying to bluff your way through a debate. You’re running for an office you’re completely unqualified for. You are chasing some glimmer of validation that recedes ever further from view. Your only rest comes when you are insulting somebody, when you are threatening to throw your opponent in jail, when you are looming over her menacingly like a mafioso thug on the precipice of a hit, when you are bellowing that she has “tremendous hate in her heart” when it is clear to everyone you are only projecting what is in your own. Trump’s emotional makeup means he can hit only a few notes: fury and aggression. In some ways, his debate performances look like primate dominance displays — filled with chest beating and looming growls. But at least primates have bands to connect with, whereas Trump is so alone, if a tree fell in his emotional forest, it would not make a sound.
It’s all so pathetic.On Monday, one of Trump’s conservative critics, Erick Erickson, published a moving essay called “If I Die Before You Wake… .” Erickson has been the object of vicious assaults by Trump supporters. He and his wife are both facing serious health ailments and may pass before their children are grown. Yet as the essay makes clear, both are living lives of love, faith, devotion and service. Both have an ultimate confidence in the goodness of creation and their grace-filled place in it. You may share that faith or not, but Erickson is living an attached life — emotionally, spiritually, morally and communally. Donald Trump’s life, by contrast, looks superficially successful and profoundly miserable. None of us would want to live in the howling wilderness of his own solitude, no matter how thick the gilding. On Nov. 9, the day after Trump loses, there won’t be solidarity and howls of outrage. Everyone will just walk away. www.nytimes.com/2016/10/11/opinion/donald-trumps-sad-lonely-life.html?partner=msft_msn&_r=0
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Post by skywalker on Oct 12, 2016 18:49:32 GMT -6
This is the stupidest presidential election I have ever seen in my life. Both candidates are filled with more flaws than you could shake a stick at. To write all the negative things about them, not to mention the false accusations that have been made against them, would take an entire encyclopedia set for each of them and to be perfectly honest with you, I'm tired of seeing negativity everywhere I look. So I have an idea. Instead of posting bad stuff about each of these clowns why don't y'all post good things about them? Tell me what their accomplishments and achievements are. I want to hear why I should vote for them, not why I should vote against the other person.
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Post by lois on Oct 12, 2016 19:58:21 GMT -6
It would be easier ,IMO, to answer what isn't damning about them, especially the latest round. This is her doing, not Donald's. Lucy has some splainin to do.....so does the rest of her motley crue of deplorables..... cliff...the FBI has been all over ALL of the emails and declared them ok...the people is just getting to read SOME of what the FBI has declared ok...you will not be able to read all of them because some of them were personal
also, did you know her computer was not hacked and the governments was...
there was nothing damning about her emails...Bush deleted millions of E mails before he left office. This e-mail server was for congress men also to use. I can't begin imagine what even one was about.
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Post by lois on Oct 12, 2016 20:00:42 GMT -6
Here's my political rant for today... Since politics has turned into a circus I may as well make fun of the clowns. Seen this on FB too stupid to post.
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Post by skywalker on Oct 12, 2016 20:09:18 GMT -6
That's the point. It is stupid. Just like this election. I'm not going to waste my time voting unless somebody can give me a good reason to vote FOR somebody. I'm tired of having to choose between the lesser of two idiots, which is the way it's been for at least the last three elections. I want to hear some good things about these people! Can't anybody come up with something good?
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Post by auntym on Oct 13, 2016 14:02:07 GMT -6
That's the point. It is stupid. Just like this election. I'm not going to waste my time voting unless somebody can give me a good reason to vote FOR somebody. I'm tired of having to choose between the lesser of two idiots, which is the way it's been for at least the last three elections. I want to hear some good things about these people! Can't anybody come up with something good? nothing good on trump...he is a person of low moral character...
ok...this is the last i'm posting on this election...as long as everyone else stops too...
as far as i'm concerned there is nothing good about donald trump... he is obviously not qualified, he is a class a racist, he doesn't care about the middle class or the poor, has absolutely no respect for women or anyone else in the world , plus, he will raise your taxes and the 1% will end up, again, not paying anything...
and he will also hurt the u.s. relations with other countries ...
wow...i could go on and on... for example:
when he was presented with a bill from workers he hired to do certain jobs around trump tower and his own apartment he refused to pay them when finished with said work... and when trump was confronted by reporters who inquired "why"... he claimed they did shoddy work ... but yet he let them finish...
...and i love this quote from trump about blue collar workers "they make too much money"...
and then there is trump university (they're being sued by the students who enrolled) they are going to court on oct 28, because he failed to live up to his promises of a better education for the students and the promise the university would help find them a job after graduration... these people are still waiting for class assignments...
then there are the people who contributed to his charity only to find out the charity helped no one except donald trump buy expensive things for himself...you can find these personal gifts listed on different news sites...
this is not the type of person who should be in the oval office...
all i say is...do your homework...fact check everything he says...he constantly lies...he isn't planning on helping the american citizens ... he doesn't respect you unless you're in the 1%...
there are reasons people are leaving his campaign...and refusing to support him or vote for him
on the other hand hillary clinton IS qualified to represent us...the only one ever in our history of electing presidents...check out my previous posts...
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Post by skywalker on Oct 13, 2016 14:08:21 GMT -6
So nobody is able to come up with a single single good thing about either of these people, huh? Interesting.
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Post by swamprat on Oct 13, 2016 15:20:05 GMT -6
Sorry, Auntym; sorry Sky; I couldn't resist.
Nothing good on Hillary... She is an unmitigated lying "beachball".
OK...this is the last I'm posting on this election on TEOR...whether anyone else stops or not. I'm done.
As far as I'm concerned, there is absolutely nothing good about Hillary Clinton. She is obviously not qualified, she is a scheming, lying narcissist. She doesn't care about the middle class or the poor, just herself. She will also hurt the U.S. relations with other countries... For the last seven years, we have been the laughing stock of the civilized world. Obama's foreign policies and foreign relationships have resulted in disrespect for the U.S. in India, in Britain, in Germany, in China, and in Russia, among others. She plans to continue in that same vein. Additionally, Bill gave her many opportunities to get stuff done in his administration and she failed miserably in almost all of them.
Then there are the people who contributed to the Clinton's charity only to find out the charity helped mostly the Clintons.... You can find that analysis on several different news sites...
This is not the type of person who should be in the oval office; just ask Bill's Secret Service agents!
All I say is...do your homework...fact check everything she says...she constantly lies...she isn't planning on helping the American citizens... She's planning on helping herself and those she owes favors to.....
There are many reasons people did not support her and are leaving her campaign...and refusing to vote for her.
On the other hand, Trump is qualified to represent us... because he has experienced both failure and success in business and in life. He is the only candidate in recent times that is not already ingrained in the Washington political hypocrisy. He does not owe anyone or corporation anything. He may be crude and vulgar; so was Winston Churchill.
And if you think I am a Trump fan, you couldn't be more wrong......I'm thinking of voting for Vladimir Putin.....
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Post by auntym on Oct 13, 2016 15:35:36 GMT -6
sorry doesn't cut it swamp...you're making fun of me... i don't find it amusing...where is the joke? ... can't you come up with your own words? do you have to use mine to get your point across...?
TRUMP FANS WILL MOVE TO RUSSIA IF HILLARY CLINTON WINS
www.vocativ.com/367241/trump-fans-russia-hillary-clinton-win/
When American liberals feel frustrated with the state of the country, they threaten to move to Canada, America’s progressive neighbor to the north. Donald Trump’s alt-right sycophants are also threatening to bid the U.S. adieu if next month’s election doesn’t go their way—but they’re going a bit further than Canada. They’re threatening to move to Russia.
As of this writing, Vocativ has found precisely zero people pleading with them to stay.
www.vocativ.com/367241/trump-fans-russia-hillary-clinton-win/
YAY,..YAY...YAY...
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Post by skywalker on Oct 13, 2016 16:52:13 GMT -6
Ok. So Auntym criticized Trump and swampy criticized Hillary. I'm still looking for somebody, or anybody, who can say anything good about these people. (The politicians, not Auntym and swampy) It seems that finding good things politicians have done is harder than finding UFOs and ghosts. Maybe politicians are really just weather balloons filled with swamp gas...they certainly seem to be full of something.
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Post by swamprat on Oct 13, 2016 20:33:22 GMT -6
Oh, Auntym. I am not trying to make fun of you! It was my feeble attempt to show how a lot of people feel the same way about both candidates. Both appear to be habitual liars, both use off-color language, both got wealthy by using others, etc. I am very sorry if you felt I was disparaging you! Swamp
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Post by lois on Oct 13, 2016 20:47:33 GMT -6
sorry doesn't cut it swamp...you're making fun of me... i don't find it amusing...where is the joke? ... can't you come up with your own words? do you have to use mine to get your point across...?
TRUMP FANS WILL MOVE TO RUSSIA IF HILLARY CLINTON WINS
www.vocativ.com/367241/trump-fans-russia-hillary-clinton-win/
When American liberals feel frustrated with the state of the country, they threaten to move to Canada, America’s progressive neighbor to the north. Donald Trump’s alt-right sycophants are also threatening to bid the U.S. adieu if next month’s election doesn’t go their way—but they’re going a bit further than Canada. They’re threatening to move to Russia.
As of this writing, Vocativ has found precisely zero people pleading with them to stay.
www.vocativ.com/367241/trump-fans-russia-hillary-clinton-win/
YAY,..YAY...YAY...
Yay is what I say. I have lost a close lifelong friend over this turmoil . She is voting for Trump. I told her husband on facebook he was stupid for voting for him She defriend me that very minute back in FEB. Haven't spoken since. It is Louise I'm speaking of here. She is also a member here. IF she spies on me that is ok who cares?
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Post by lois on Oct 13, 2016 20:54:35 GMT -6
Ok. So Auntym criticized Trump and swampy criticized Hillary. I'm still looking for somebody, or anybody, who can say anything good about these people. (The politicians, not Auntym and swampy) It seems that finding good things politicians have done is harder than finding UFOs and ghosts. Maybe politicians are really just weather balloons filled with swamp gas...they certainly seem to be full of something. My autistic grandson goes to School because of what Hillary did years back. In Carolina they were having a dispute over turning Autistic kids away. When My Grandson was 11 they told my son at a conference at the school. "Well does he have to come back next year" Could he really learn more? My son blew up and told them it is the law you cannot turn him away. Yay for Hillary. My sister has been a teacher for 45 years and she told me about what happen in Carolina decades ago. Micheal went on and Graduated two years ago from 12th grade. He still does not talk too much . But he is smart as a whip. He amazes me every time he gets on a computer. Can't believe this guy. www.hillaryclinton.com/feed/what-hillary-clintons-first-job-out-of-law-school-can-tell-us-about-who-she-is-today/ It is true she cares about the handicap. TRUMP makes fun of them.
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Post by lois on Oct 13, 2016 21:21:35 GMT -6
He can say I love you Grandma. and some hot words when he gets made.
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Post by skywalker on Oct 13, 2016 21:27:51 GMT -6
Finally somebody says something good about one of the clowns...I mean candidates. Anybody else want to make a positive comment?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 0:15:39 GMT -6
Finally somebody says something good about one of the clowns...I mean candidates. Anybody else want to make a positive comment? Gary Johnson climbed Mount Everest and has never been accused of rape and has never been accused of defending a rapist. He's not a career politician and he's not in the top 1% of greed and corruption like the other two. I'm voting for him.
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Post by skywalker on Oct 14, 2016 6:41:27 GMT -6
Unfortunately the poor guy doesn't have a snowball's chance in Hades of winning. Very few people even know who he is. Little guy like him can't compete with Barnum and Bailey.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 9:49:03 GMT -6
I've done my homework......Apparently, JudicialWatch has too. Get her !!! www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-releases-new-hillary-clinton-email-answers-given-oath/Judicial Watch "Because no one is above the law "
Someone has some splainin to do ! Perjury : Lying under oath Section 1621 covers general perjury, and stipulates that anyone who "willfully and contrary to such oath states or subscribes any material matter which he does not believe to be true" is guilty of perjury and shall be fined or imprisoned up to five years, or both. Section 1001 covers false statements more generally, without requiring an oath. The section stipulates that "whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the government of the United States, knowingly and willfully" falsifies or conceals information, including before a congressional committee's inquiry, may also be fined or imprisoned up to five years.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 10:01:45 GMT -6
That's the point. It is stupid. Just like this election. I'm not going to waste my time voting unless somebody can give me a good reason to vote FOR somebody. I'm tired of having to choose between the lesser of two idiots, which is the way it's been for at least the last three elections. I want to hear some good things about these people! Can't anybody come up with something good? **** I can't Skywalker. I really can't! Lois has a personal story that SOUNDS nice, and I have no reason to dis-believe Lois!! 🙂 But otherwise, I have read stuff about her that suggests aborting babies with handicaps! I have learned that voting for people SHOULD be kept private. For obvious reasons. I have never voted by "party" and only ONCE have I answered questions from a friend on certain issues - until she started "labelling" my answers by "party". Used to be, a Doctor would throw out your medical record if he/she hadn't seen you in 5 years. Maybe that was a file space thing; people went to other doctors; but quite a pain if you came back and hadn't seen a doc in 5 years. . . my point being, 5 years has worked for me, throwing out old utility bills, etc. (aaack! When I was more organized). So, look at a "person" over the last 5 years. . . Gee, for example, an old Prez had no real reason to go "hang out" with people from Katrina, all these years later - softened my heart a bit. I used Lor's earlier post on Gary Johnson to check out other candidates stands... thanks! Anyway, we are still a country under G-d. Even if we weren't, G-d can use whomever is in office for his purposes (example: Babylonia king Nebi (canezzer) and the people of Judah). If you don't vote, how can you complain about who is in office? 😉
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Post by swamprat on Oct 14, 2016 10:55:39 GMT -6
Me too, Lorelei!
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Post by auntym on Oct 14, 2016 11:37:51 GMT -6
thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/300969-biden-bill-clinton-paid-a-price-for-misconductOctober 14, 2016
Biden: Bill Clinton 'paid a price' for misconductBy Jessie Hellmann Former President Bill Clinton's past should not be an issue in this presidential campaign, Vice President Biden said while pressing the case against GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump over his alleged misconduct with women. “I can't make any excuse for Bill Clinton's conduct, and I wouldn't attempt to make any excuses for the conduct,” Biden said in an interview on NBC's "Meet the Press," to air Sunday. “But he paid a price for it. He paid a price. He was impeached.” Trump, on the other hand, “has acknowledged that he has been a sexual predator. He's acknowledged that he's abused his power. And the — as I said, the textbook definition of what constitutes sexual assault.” The New York Times published an article this week detailing the stories of two women who claim Trump had in the past groped and kissed them without consent. A reporter for People magazine also claimed Trump forced himself on her during an interview in 2005. Trump has denied the allegations, calling them "pure fiction" and "outright lies." The accusations follow a tape released last week in which Trump bragged about groping and kissing women without their consent. In response to scrutiny of Trump's treatment of women, the campaign has argued that Clinton, whose spouse is Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, is a serial abuser of women, and it has brought many of his accusers to campaign events and the second presidential debate. thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/300969-biden-bill-clinton-paid-a-price-for-misconduct
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Post by auntym on Oct 14, 2016 12:33:56 GMT -6
NPR @npr 7h7 hours ago
On Thursday, @pressfreedom said a Trump presidency poses a fundamental threat to press freedoms. n.pr/2dBfyFU
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