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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2012 10:16:05 GMT -6
That one makes me chuckle because I don't think they can disclose anything or would be allowed to.
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Post by skywalker on May 6, 2012 10:36:14 GMT -6
Obama is under extreme pressure on everything because nothing he is doing is working. Even when he tries to do stuff that he thinks people will like in order to gain support for his reelection it ends up blowing up on him because the people all know it's just a political tactic. The way his poll numbers are going down the toilet he will be much too busy campaigning to even think about UFOs. Of course he might promise disclosure if he thought it would help him get the "tinfoil" vote.
Honestly though, I don't think the Presidents know anything about it. UFO info is on a need to know basis and Presidents who will only be in office for 4 or 8 years do not need to know.
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Post by sansseed on May 6, 2012 11:58:27 GMT -6
Honestly though, I don't think the Presidents know anything about it. UFO info is on a need to know basis and Presidents who will only be in office for 4 or 8 years do not need to know. I have to agree with you Sky. I don't think presidents know anything. The powers that be who know anything, wouldn't trust any elected official with the truth. Their time in office is short and then they are moved off to political pasture. I think the current administration has shown how the little power the president has and how any president is more of puppet to the powers that be. Why would anything so powerful as the knowledge of other life be trusted to such an office? IMO, it would not.
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Post by skywalker on May 6, 2012 12:24:39 GMT -6
I agree, not to mention the fact that elected politicians are dependent on the voters to gain or maintain their power and something like the knowledge of ETs or UFOs might be too tempting a tool for them to use to try to influence voters. I think that the people who are really in charge of the UFO/ET program would be either military or black ops type intelligence people...probably people who spend their entire lives dealing with only that one issue. They would never turn that info over to somebody who was "only" a president, unless maybe it was somebody with a huge amount of military experience. They will never disclose that info to the people either. They are too entrenched in their secretive ways by now.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2012 17:45:14 GMT -6
I still believe there is a political structure behind the political structure we know and love. Builderberg group or star group or whatever may be..I think it exists and if anyone has anything to disclose it would be that bunch and NEVER in the history of man will that happen (IMO) They'd have to take turns killing each other..over what they know.
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Post by auntym on Mar 5, 2013 13:39:24 GMT -6
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Post by auntym on Mar 6, 2013 14:37:08 GMT -6
www.openminds.tv/spielberg-tells-larry-king-he-supports-government-disclosure-on-ufos-919/ Spielberg tells Larry King he supports gov’t disclosure on UFOs[/color] Alejandro Rojas 05 Mar, 2013 Documentary director, James Fox, finally revealed the contents of a letter from Steven Spielberg to Larry King regarding his UFO documentary, I Know What I Saw, at this year’s UFO Congress. In 2009 Fox had appeared on Larry King Live to talk about UFOs and his documentary, which was about to appear on the History Channel. A few days after the show, King told Fox that he had sent a copy of the documentary to Steven Spielberg. King then received a letter from Spielberg in response, and sent Fox a copy. Excited about the endorsement from Spielberg, Fox contacted Spielberg’s publicist to confirm it was OK for Fox to share Spielberg’s remarks to help promote the upcoming airing of his documentary. Unfortunately, Spielberg’s publicist, Marvin Levy, denied the request. At the time, Fox had let some of us in the UFO community know he had received an endorsement, but respecting Levy’s wishes, he did not reveal the exact content. Fox said now that a few years has passed, he left a message for Levy, informing him that he intended to read the letter at the UFO Congress this year. He had not heard back from Levy, so he assumed that meant it was OK, and he read the letter to an excited IUFOC crowd. Transcribed from Fox’s reading, the letter said: Dear Larry,
With great curiosity, I watched the documentary you sent over and found it compelling. Personally, I would like to think we are not alone, and even though I have devoted a generous percentage of my movies to extraterrestrial related themes, I for one have never seen a UFO. That is so unfair! (sic)
I hope you will continue to pursue this topic on your program, and that some day our government will offer a total disclosure about what they know about unidentified flying objects and their true and natural origins.
I continue to enjoy watching you and all your guests.
All my best,
Signed: StevenFox was disappointed Spielberg did not endorse his film openly. He said: CONTINUE READING: www.openminds.tv/spielberg-tells-larry-king-he-supports-government-disclosure-on-ufos-919/
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2013 23:20:28 GMT -6
There's that 'D' word again.
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Post by auntym on Mar 21, 2013 11:43:55 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2013 12:46:33 GMT -6
I want to see just one of them come up with proof. All I hear are personal beliefs and we all have those. IF this government knows more than they are saying they are free to lie until there is concrete proof. Maybe they have a UFO and bodies stashed in a hanger..true physical evidence..maybe they don't. Either way it doesn't mean they know where they come from or that they are in communication with another race. It doesn't mean they are not even less in the know than we are and to be honest those are the parts I am interested in. I already know they're here.
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Post by skywalker on Apr 13, 2013 19:31:59 GMT -6
I think the government will continue to lie even after the proof has been found. Have they told the truth about Area 51 yet? Nope. Have they told the truth about MKUltra yet? Nope. Have they told the truth about anything at all yet? Nope.
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Post by lois on Apr 13, 2013 19:41:42 GMT -6
I think the government will continue to lie even after the proof has been found. Have they told the truth about Area 51 yet? Nope. Have they told the truth about MKUltra yet? Nope. Have they told the truth about anything at all yet? Nope. ;D
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Post by swamprat on Apr 15, 2013 19:26:52 GMT -6
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A guy who should’ve known about StephenvilleThursday, April 11, 2013 by Billy Cox "Look at us — we’re just a very mediocre star on the edge of the galaxy. If a map of the United States were the Milky Way, we’d be some little place somewhere way down in Georgia. We’re pretty insignificant.” -- Former U.S. Rep. Roscoe Bartlett/CREDIT: politico.com It’s a little weird to be briefing the recent chair of the Tactical Air and Land Forces Subcommittee of the House Armed Services Committee on a UFO incident he probably should’ve heard about five years ago. But there you are, telling Dr. Roscoe Bartlett about an aircraft without a transponder making a run toward President Bush’s “Western White House” in Crawford, Tex., in 2008, and about how military interceptors were no-shows as thing approached the no-fly zone. But nobody bothered to tell Bartlett about it before. The former Republican congressman from Maryland listens intently. “And you say they got it on radar?” Bartlett asks from his home in Frederick. Yep — it was tracked for more than an hour; MUFON released a study nearly five years ago. F-16s evidently drew near the thing, according to the radar chronology, but the warplanes backed off. The 10-term congressman asserts he “Absolutely!” would’ve wanted to know about such an event. “I wouldn’t have a problem making an issue out of it,” says Bartlett, who was defeated in the 2012 election at age 87. “Now, most members of Congress would probably shy away from this sort of thing because they’d have to suffer through accusations of ‘you’re crazy’ or ‘you’re extremist.’ But I like to think I’ve got an open mind.” Duly noted. But it’s a lot easier to advocate intellectual curiosity (to say nothing of the national security ramifications) on UFOs when you’re out of office. It’s also easier with a $20,000 incentive, which is what Bartlett will make when he attends lobbyist Steve Bassett’s Citizen Hearing on Disclosure in Washington on April 29-May 3. Like five other former retired Capitol Hill colleagues, Bartlett will listen to UFO evidence from dozens of witnesses as the CHoD simulates a week-long congressional hearing. The addition of Bartlett, a former Tea Party caucus member, makes for an eclectic lineup of panelists, which includes three Dems, two Republicans, a Libertarian, and three women, one of whom is African-American. But what seems a bit odd is that none of the panelists, collectively or individually, will be required to prepare a summary or recommendations based on the testimony they’ve heard. “They were not recruited to become activists in this issue,” says Bassett. “A congressional committee’s job in a hearing is to gather information. You call in experts to testify, you question them, you collect information, that’s it. But the hearing process has decayed over the years into a kabuki theater where all they do is make political statements and *pee* on each other. It’s why Congress has a 10 percent public approval rating. So a congressman’s viewpoint is really not relevant — we’re going to do the job Congress should’ve been doing all along. That’s why we call it a Citizen Hearing.” The odds of a) CHoD panelists provoking interest among their busy colleagues in Congress and b) the Incredible Shrinking Fourth Estate getting motivated enough to pursue rigorous investigations of UFOs seem remote, but Bassett says a followup documentary on the hearings — which will be released later this year — is designed to extend the shelf life of the event. At any rate, Bartlett says he brings no agenda to the CHoD. He remembers the UFO issue being raised in the House just once during his 20-year tenure. That was early on, when New Mexico Republican Steven Schiff charged the General Accounting Office with recovering outgoing messages from Roswell Army Air Field during the 1947 controversy. The GAO, in 1995, discovered that those transmissions were missing, with “no information available regarding when or under what authority the records were destroyed. Bartlett says he inferred no malfeasance from those results, but adds he has no idea if the You Can’t Keep A Secret In Washington cliche is true. “They tell you when you’re in office you have access to anything, but who knows, really?” he says. “The possibility of extraterrestrial life somewhere else in the universe, yes, it just has to be,” says Bartlett. “Can they travel here? Who knows? I’ve got a totally open mind. I do know there are some UFO sightings that can’t be explained.” devoid.blogs.heraldtribune.com/13688/a-guy-who-shouldve-known-about-stephenville/
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Post by auntym on May 1, 2013 19:04:18 GMT -6
i wish i could find all of this video... Clinton White House Chief John Podesta on UFO disclosure Uploaded on Nov 14, 2007 Clinton White House Chief John Podesta talks of the need for disclosure of the UFO phenomena
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Post by auntym on May 2, 2013 12:08:03 GMT -6
www.citizenhearing.org/webcast.html IF YOU'RE INTERESTED... Live Webcast On Disclosure Hearing[/color] All five days of the Citizen Hearing on Disclosure are being live streamed to the Internet in English and Spanish and archived in six languages – English, Spanish, Hindi, Arabic, Japanese and Mandarin Chinese – representing approximately one half of the world’s population. Archives for each language will be posted after the Hearing sometime in May and available for 30 days. Subscribers can access the entire Citizen Hearing on Disclosure live broadcast for $3.80. Subscription to the English and Spanish live broadcast will include evening lectures given by Hearing witnesses. Subscribers can access the Citizen Hearing on Disclosure archives for $3.80. The English and Spanish archives will include the evening lectures. MORE INFO: www.citizenhearing.org/webcast.html
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Post by auntym on May 2, 2013 12:31:05 GMT -6
www.detroitnews.com/article/20130430/POLITICS03/304300351/Ex-Rep-Kilpatrick-ready-lead-global-probe-extraterrestrialsApril 30, 2013 Ex-Rep. Kilpatrick ready to lead global probe of extraterrestrials By Marisa Schultz Detroit News Washington Bureau Washington — Former U.S. Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick said Monday she was ready to boldly go where others have not gone before and called for an international probe into space aliens. After a day of hearing testimony from believers in alien life forms, Kilpatrick offered up herself to launch an effort with other countries to bring to light the existence of extraterrestrials. "It's important that we work with foreign governments," an impassioned Kilpatrick said after she and five other former members of Congress heard nearly eight hours of testimony. "There's been 10 or 15 already identified who have acknowledged this existence. I want to be part of that." Cheers for Kilpatrick rocketed across the room as the first day ended of a week of hearings aimed at exposing a government cover-up of proof of extraterrestrials. Sponsored by Paradigm Research Group, a private extraterrestrial lobbying organization, Kilpatrick and the other ex-lawmakers are being paid $20,000 each to listen to about 30 hours of testimony that will be the basis for a documentary on UFOs. A bevy of activists, journalists and researchers landed in the National Press Club ballroom to show their "evidence" of extraterrestrial life and a decades-long policy by the U.S. government to cover it up. A retired Air Force member and astronaut talked of alien evidence, others talked of an alleged government cover-up of Roswell, N.M., the purported site of a UFO crash in 1947. A Canadian researcher called the government's silence on extraterrestrials "a cosmic-Watergate." A medical doctor turned ET center founder explained secret funding of U.S. projects to develop anti-gravity devices that run without oil, gas or coal. CONTINUE READING: From The Detroit News: www.detroitnews.com/article/20130430/POLITICS03/304300351#ixzz2SA1vnG59
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Post by CitizenK on May 2, 2013 23:33:58 GMT -6
Well I don't know about the rest of ya, but I am ecstatic that such an event may now finally take place and hoped that this would be the outcome of these members being there for this event! (as I'm sure the ones who put it together also hoped). But who knew it would happen after only one day of testimony! This woman's gonna be floored by the time this event is over!
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Post by CitizenK on May 2, 2013 23:34:45 GMT -6
Awesome! Thank ya!
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2013 12:38:04 GMT -6
I would LOVE to see this actually happen. I have my doubts because I know the government. To admit they have lied for years and withheld information..no matter how sketchy it might be..is something I have trouble seeing them do. Do all governments then come forward and admit they have collaberated to withold information from the public? Then..if they do disclose anything we'll have no way of knowing if they are disclosing true information..or all of it. Will they just come forward and say.. 'Ok..pilots did tell us about UFO's from the beginning but we were afraid it would cause panic' or 'Yes..we have reports from civilians, military and others about UFO sightings and we have reports of abductions..however..how could we present this information to the public with no way to verify it?' 'It's the duty of the government to provide the public with the truth..all we have are hear say sightings or so called encounters and abudctions.' I can hear it plain as day..admission of knowledge with no admission of guilt. On the bright side..maybe Obama in some effort to make a memorable contribution to his presidency will decide this is the way to please the public I do believe in miracles ;D
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2013 14:05:27 GMT -6
On the bright side..maybe Obama in some effort to make a memorable contribution to his presidency will decide this is the way to please the public I do believe in miracles ;D ...but you're right... miracles DO happen... sometimes...
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Post by dawnoftime on May 7, 2013 16:34:54 GMT -6
Yes -- I agree with lorelei! Look at how many things that have forced their way to the light: Japanese internment camps, syphillis experiements on poor black men, soldiers' exposure to toxic and radiation tests... Those things seem (to me) more horrific than withholding evidence of aliens for what some may have believed was "national security." Let's all bend our Jedi minds on it!!!! They will cave!!!!! :-D
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Post by skywalker on May 7, 2013 20:17:31 GMT -6
The only way the government will ever release that information is if they think they have something to gain by doing so. Politicians don't do things for any other reason than to gain power. They certainly are not going to give any of it up willingly.
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Post by lois on May 7, 2013 20:52:34 GMT -6
If they think there will be alien contact soon, they may do just that. Given everyone time to prepare. Instead of ufos flying and landing all over the world. . But this type of contact could go on forever.
Who says they have to get to us though the higher power of this world.? ;D They have already done that.. but to awaken everyone by some great event. I think there is some secret pack as our government never seems worried that it would happen. Like they would know first hand before it did occur ..
If the government is in the dark about ufos and aliens they would fear them same as anyone else. The government military did make a statement once in the beginning. We have nothing to hide. We see no reason to fear these objects. ;D ;D Boy that was a understatement. How could they make this statement unless they knew what their agenda was? No way could anyone say there is not reason to fear. ;D ;
What we need is for these aliens to abduct everyone in Congress. ;D
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Post by skywalker on May 7, 2013 21:07:23 GMT -6
What we need is for these aliens to abduct everyone in Congress. ;D I'll vote for that!! Just as long as they don't bring them back...
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Post by lois on May 7, 2013 21:13:11 GMT -6
What we need is for these aliens to abduct everyone in Congress. ;D I'll vote for that!! Just as long as they don't bring them back... ;D Now you know they would get another Congress just like the one we have now..
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2013 10:21:48 GMT -6
A politician by any definition is still a politician..we would only have the same elected mess all over again I absolutely agree Sky..unless they have something to gain...why would they disclose anything? WE already know they are coming here. Why does anyone think the government is better informed than the people they are abducting? If...they do have some inside track and made some 'deal' to allow 'harvesting' for the purpose of experimentation or medical procedures..you do realize that is rather counter to our constitutional rights and it makes our government libel for all sorts of strange law suits IF they admit they did so? OMY GOD I was so traumatized...it has to be worth a billion easy ;D To us..it may be a simple matter of just having proof of what we already know. To them..it could be a coffin nail. So..unless they are forced to it..why would they?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2013 12:47:03 GMT -6
I think this has been posted on the forum before but I just found this on facebook:
The Mexican defense department had disclosed that UFOs are real:
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Post by lois on Jun 8, 2013 15:26:12 GMT -6
anna ....thanks for posting . I have seem the tape before but not the fox news cast. I'm going to take it back to my timeline..
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Post by auntym on Jul 2, 2013 11:52:50 GMT -6
www.latest-ufo-sightings.net/2013/07/ufo-believers-want-confirmation-not.htmlTuesday, July 2, 2013 UFO Believers Want Confirmation Not DisclosureNick Pope, former administrator of MoD UFO Desk, has issued a controversial statement against MoD’s spokesperson David Clarke. Pope worked for many years for the British Mistry of Defence but now he attacked the government department that once supported him. Clarke had recently issued a statement that brought disappointment to Ufologists and extra-terrestrial believers around the world. Clarke said that after years of gathering reports, they do not found evidence of a UFO threat to UK and no proof that Earth was being visited by intelligent life outside planet Earth. Nick Pope reacted to the statement that UFOs have no defence significance. He said that the statement is designed to deflect the public and media interest on UFOs. Pope stated that information on defence, security and intelligence are exempted in the UK’s Freedom of Information Act and the newly-available files had already been decided to be made public before their scheduled release. Referring to the statement issued by Clarke about “no defence significance,” Pope said that some people would use the term “useful idiot” to describe his action. Meanwhile, Ufologists and believers prefer confirmation from government officials about these UFO sightings to the public rather than disclosure. MORE: www.latest-ufo-sightings.net/2013/07/ufo-believers-want-confirmation-not.html
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Post by auntym on Oct 2, 2013 13:18:24 GMT -6
ufodigest.com/news/0308/lawyers2.htmlToday: October 2, 2013 Exopolitics: Heyday for Lawyers!by Ed Komarek Hopefully at some point soon some very large powerful legal firms could become involved in disclosure out of self interest. The huge amounts of profit to be made through lawsuits and protection from lawsuits should be great enough of an inducement to cause the law firms to break rank from the rest of the pack. When the litigation begins that will sound the death knell for the UFO/ET cover up. The rapid disclosure of extraterrestrial reality will surely create economic hardship for many nationally and globally but it will also present many opportunities. There will be those people and industries like the legal industry that will flourish and profit greatly from the upheaval. The same can be said for some countries around the world. Some countries will benefit especially those countries where technological innovation is being suppressed as in the third world countries and in Japan and Asia. Other countries like the oil rich Middle East countries could be devastated unless they are well diversified away from oil. It’s not hard to see now which countries are pushing for disclosure and which countries are vigorously against UFO/ET disclosure. Just look at what countries economic interests will be harmed by disclosure and which countries will benefit the most. It’s easy to see who the players are. The only thing that appears to be holding the cover up together and keeping pro disclosure countries from breaking rank is the very real possibility of catastrophic disclosure soon. Because of the 60 years of suppression and manipulation of technological innovation what should have been a gradual process of acclimation and renewal over 60 years may soon become a catastrophic process of renewal. Those nations, companies, and citizens that have prepared themselves for possible catastrophic economic instability and renewal after UFO/ET disclosure will be able to take advantage of new opportunities. These will flourish in such a time of upheaval while those that continue to remain brainwashed will suffer greatly. I am placing my bets on the lawyers and the legal profession coming out on top of the whole mess. ufodigest.com/news/0308/lawyers2.html
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