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Post by lois on May 3, 2011 16:01:50 GMT -6
Touch got me thinking about it again. It has not been posted on this forum. I live there for ten years and never heard tell of this crash, but my four kids who sitll live there has.. as it was brought up in the news a few years ago.. ufos.about.com/od/bestufocrashcases/p/missouri1941.htm
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Post by lois on May 3, 2011 16:19:45 GMT -6
This is the Grandaughter of one of the witnesses. He was a Minister in the local church.
.My daughter was married in this church in 1993, and is still in operation today. I don't see how. It sits right on the Mississippi River. I have seen this church go under water many times flooded when the river rises. The north end of the levy does not exist. It should of been built farther north along the river. but it is higher ground so I guess they thought is was safe..
Touch .. here is a start on that crash site..
Lois .. shamira
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2011 7:55:48 GMT -6
thank you lois for posting this !!! Its too bad the picture of the being was lost. During that era,especially in the 1940s, there were many crash reports and sightings. Back then, aliens were known as "little green men" and naysayers didnt have influence from the media to blame for similar gray eyewitness accounts since they were almost unheard of. His description is similar to mine and others in many ways, and although the dates are way off, the location is close to mine as well so it hits close to home. There doesnt seem to be a motive for them to lie either, and their christian background seems to point out that they were honest citizens . thanks again, cliff
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2011 9:54:15 GMT -6
im curious if reverend huffmans family knows the wherabouts of the photo taken of the being.
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Post by skywalker on May 29, 2011 16:55:10 GMT -6
This would be a very interesting incident if we had more info on it. Unfortunately, it wasn't brought to anybody's attention until many decades later. I'm wondering if there was anything written about a plane crash, military operation, or any other unusual events in the newspapers from that time period. If something crashed out there, even if the governmnet claimed it was just a plane, there should be an article on it in the local paper.
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Post by skywalker on Dec 24, 2011 22:43:12 GMT -6
I found a couple more links for this story. www.cseti.org/crashes/007.htmThe article says: Leonard H. Stringifield, a renowned UFO investigator, recounted (this) story in the July 1991 issue of his "Status Report," a monthly publication on UFO activities and investigations. Charlotte Mann told Stringfield her grandfather got a call one spring night from police asking him to accompany them to the site of an airplane crash outside town in case the victims needed a clergyman.
"A car was sent to get him, but grandmother said it wasn't a police car," Mann said in Stingfield's recounting of the story. When Huffman got to the crash scene, Mann said, he noticed one piece of the wreckage that appeared to have a rounded shape with no edges or seams," and a "very shiny metallic finish."
"Police officers, "plainclothes men" and "military officers were already at the scene sifting through the wreckage, Mann said. Laid to one side of the scene were "three bodies, not human," she recounted. "It was hard for him to tell if they had on suits or if it was their skin, but they were covered head to foot in what looked like wrinkled aluminum foil," Mann said. "He could see no hair on their bodies and they had no ears. They were small framed like a child, about 4 feet tall, but had larger heads and longer arms." Their faces had "large, oval-shaped eyes, no noses, just holes and no lips, just small slits for mouths," Mann said. Huffman was told by one of the military officers at the scene not to tell anyone what he had witnessed for security reasons, Mann told Stringfield. Huffman told his wife, Floy, and their two Sons what he had seen when he returned home from the crash site but never spoke of it again, said Mann.Here is another link with a little more info: www.ufocasebook.com/missouricrash.html
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2011 12:25:42 GMT -6
This would be a very interesting incident if we had more info on it. Unfortunately, it wasn't brought to anybody's attention until many decades later. I'm wondering if there was anything written about a plane crash, military operation, or any other unusual events in the newspapers from that time period. If something crashed out there, even if the governmnet claimed it was just a plane, there should be an article on it in the local paper. You can quit "wondering" about written accounts . The internet is a wonderful thing; follow the links that start on the article you (sky ) posted below this posting I highlighted, and you'll see why. In 1940, a year before this supposed incident, a Ruben Schade (?) was elected to Sheriff in this area. If we research further, we will be able to find out how old Mr. Schade was when he became Sheriff. A printed newspaper article is referenced and given as proof of his new job, in 1940. Ruben Schade, before entering law enforecement, is known to have been active with and had jobs with (2) newspapers. His age is relevant because we can assume that he knew and had contact with a lot of people in the area due to his newspaper job. For him to go on and become Sheriff is also further proof, I believe, of his then-popularity in the area. I do not mean these statements of mine as derogatory, as they might be taken considering newspaper and political jobs in 2011. _____________________________________________________ "Mann's account says the crash happened in the spring. Westwood speculates it may actually have happened in the fall because of the mention of a field fire caused by the crash. In the spring, he reasons, vegetation would have been too wet to burn easily. "But in the fall, it's very dry," he said. Me: Mr. Westwood is from Virginia. Missouri can be known to have a "dry Spring" . Also, a "wet Spring", would have helped keep a fire from spreading. I believe the detail of when it happened. Being a mother myself, the detail of one of the daughters-in-law (of the Reverend) being very pregnant and giving birth in May, is an easy 'marker'. People tend to remember dates/times of things happening around the year they give birth to a child. I'm so glad a "picture of this incident" is NOT the one that used to be floating around the internet. It (the picture) was a hoax, and of course people used this alone to deride this crash. I believe we will never see the "true" picture, unless it is in the "White House" and released to the public. I imagine that at some point, those civilians who had copies made a fateful decision to destroy that evidence, and not for their own welfare, and even possibly at a much later date. To this day, of course there are still individuals who will "burn books" in an attempt to "set things right".
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Post by skywalker on Dec 25, 2011 23:00:03 GMT -6
Hmm...so what you are saying is that I should actually read these articles that I post? What an interesting idea...I wonder why I didn't think of that?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2011 15:44:16 GMT -6
If something crashed out there, even if the governmnet claimed it was just a plane, there should be an article on it in the local paper. I agree. The article I pointed out just caused me "To speculate". You pointed me to that article. I assumed that the article might give more details of the event and that my opinion was welcome. ;D
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Post by skywalker on Dec 26, 2011 20:57:11 GMT -6
Your opinion is always welcome, Jc.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2011 8:59:32 GMT -6
so what do you think of my speculation, sky? Is it possible that a small town was able to keep this event out of the news because they all worked together to keep it secret? and if I'm right, Why? of course I'm supposing this really did happen. A point was made that this happened before the Roswell event, and on the other forum there were people who were adamant in their claims that ufos (?) had crashed many times. Other people of supposedly higher education (to my understanding) then said that they didn't believe that ufos ever crashed. I find myself looking for ufo crashes. Ufo crashes with just enough information to make me wonder. I apologize for earlier when it seemed that I was questioning whether anyone bothered to read the article links that were provided. Some of my questions I ask are to try to keep conversation flowing. I may have a preconceived idea of what the answer is, and that has been brought to my attention that my answer could be entirely wrong. I can't stop myself from having ideas, but I choose to remain curious. just curious.
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Post by skywalker on Dec 27, 2011 11:07:51 GMT -6
There's nothing to apologize for, Jc. To be honest with you I actually didn't read all of the links that came with the article. That was something that Shami posted on Ufomania more than a year ago and I wanted to bring it over here before it got deleted permanently. My personal feelings about the Cape Girardeau crash story is that it is very interesting and that it should be researched further. Shami used to live in Cape Girardeau a long time ago and she said that people there do remember it happening, so there must be something to the story. If the local fire department has a record of them responding to the crash then that would further verify it. The question that remains is what was it that crashed...a UFO, an airplane, or something else entirely? If it was a UFO and people did cover it up the question then would be why? But since this occurred in 1941 it would be easy to understand they would. Back then the country was a different place than it is now. They were on the verge of war and people were much more patriotic than they are today. This was before the Kennedy assassination, before the MK-Ultra experiments, before all of the lies and deceptions that have become commonplace in government nowadays. Back then people actually trusted the government so if the military said to keep quiet about it most people definitely would keep quiet...not because they were afraid of facing repercussions but because they would feel like it was their patriotic duty to do so. I would love to go up there sometime and dig through the county records to see exactly what they say. I also wish that Leonard Stringfield's family would release the research that he did. I bet there is a huge amount of info in there just waiting to be discovered. Unfortunately that may not ever happen so we might have to make do with what we can find on our own. I bet Shami will have something to say about this when she gets back home. Since she has lived there herself and still has relatives there I bet she knows a lot more about it than the rest of us do. I can't wait to hear what she thinks about it.
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Post by lois on Jan 2, 2012 20:18:30 GMT -6
Sky.. When I lived in cape, I did not know about a ufo crash, it was only after I came home to Bloomington, did Ron.. my sun bright it up.. He said you remember it don't you and I told him know he was surprised at that. He has search throught library records of old newspapers at the time.. According to the folks down there it was not 41 but 46 right before the Roswell crash.. I will ask him about going through record and where he has searched. If he found anything substantial he has not told me about it.. I do know this Church, whose minister was called. It still stands today and is only one block from the Mississippi.. it has been flooded many times with rainwater.. the levy is not far enough North in cape to keep it away from the church. My daughter got married in this church.. Too bad you cannot go in there and dig around, this minister may of hid evidence in this church.. as the government did worn him not to tell. I believe he did have this photo at one time.. I sure would of safe guarded it and never passed it on to anyone..
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2012 22:04:40 GMT -6
Lois, has Ron ever checked through the records of the local geneological society ? Here where I live and other surrounding counties the records are accessible to the public . There should be a way to check online also. Im going to research this further and see if I can dig something up.
Back in that day many people kept ledger books I think their called that recorded daily events, weather, and personal diaries of their daily lives. I found one in an old barn along with many other documents , pictures, and WW2 articles and items inside an old chest that were going to be thrown out so they told me if I wanted them to get them immediately and of course I did. I think I mentioned this in another thread awhile back.
The "smoking gun" picture could be around some place just waiting to be found ! Many(not all) of these "good ole timers" around these parts love for younger generations to pull up, have a cup of coffee, and talk history, even if you are a total stranger.Someone in the area must remember something. This summer, Im hoping to take a road trip to that area . Maybe Lois, if youre down there, we can somehow meet up and investigate this further. Maybe do some metal detecting too ~smiles~.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2012 22:40:32 GMT -6
Thanks for sharing with us Lois.
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Post by lois on Jan 3, 2012 0:12:27 GMT -6
Lois, has Ron ever checked through the records of the local geneological society ? Here where I live and other surrounding counties the records are accessible to the public . There should be a way to check online also. Im going to research this further and see if I can dig something up. Back in that day many people kept ledger books I think their called that recorded daily events, weather, and personal diaries of their daily lives. I found one in an old barn along with many other documents , pictures, and WW2 articles and items inside an old chest that were going to be thrown out so they told me if I wanted them to get them immediately and of course I did. I think I mentioned this in another thread awhile back. The "smoking gun" picture could be around some place just waiting to be found ! Many(not all) of these "good ole timers" around these parts love for younger generations to pull up, have a cup of coffee, and talk history, even if you are a total stranger.Someone in the area must remember something. This summer, Im hoping to take a road trip to that area . Maybe Lois, if youre down there, we can somehow meet up and investigate this further. Maybe do some metal detecting too ~smiles~. We always try and go down each summer, but we did not this year. waited till Christmas. I will let you know when ever we decide to go down again.. That sounds like a great idea...I will pack my metal detector also
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2012 7:08:03 GMT -6
Lois, has Ron ever checked through the records of the local geneological society ? Here where I live and other surrounding counties the records are accessible to the public . There should be a way to check online also. Im going to research this further and see if I can dig something up. Back in that day many people kept ledger books I think their called that recorded daily events, weather, and personal diaries of their daily lives. I found one in an old barn along with many other documents , pictures, and WW2 articles and items inside an old chest that were going to be thrown out so they told me if I wanted them to get them immediately and of course I did. I think I mentioned this in another thread awhile back. The "smoking gun" picture could be around some place just waiting to be found ! Many(not all) of these "good ole timers" around these parts love for younger generations to pull up, have a cup of coffee, and talk history, even if you are a total stranger.Someone in the area must remember something. This summer, Im hoping to take a road trip to that area . Maybe Lois, if youre down there, we can somehow meet up and investigate this further. Maybe do some metal detecting too ~smiles~. We always try and go down each summer, but we did not this year. waited till Christmas. I will let you know when ever we decide to go down again.. That sounds like a great idea...I will pack my metal detector also
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Post by auntym on Feb 6, 2015 13:56:22 GMT -6
www.columbiatribune.com/opinion/oped/the-cape-girardeau-ufo-crash/article_687f4bcb-edff-5ce7-9111-ab3d9a0a5463.html The 1941 Cape Girardeau UFO CrashBy BILL WICKERSHAM Tuesday, February 3, 2015 On its website (www.ufocenter.com), the Seattle-based National UFO Reporting Center (NUFORC) has accounts of 1,857 UFO sightings observed throughout most sections of Missouri since the early 1950s. Because only about 5 percent of UFO witnesses actually report their experiences, the total number of Missouri UFO encounters is, no doubt, much higher. An account of a UFO crash in southeast Missouri preceded the well-known Roswell, N.M., crash by almost six years. In 1991, the late Leonard Stringfield, an early UFO investigator and former civilian consultant to UFO operations at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio, in the 1950s, published an account of an alleged 1941 UFO crash near Cape Girardeau. Stringfield’s article appeared in the July 1991 issue of his “Status Report,” a monthly publication on UFO activities and investigations. The article was based on information received from Charlette Mann, who was a young child living in Cape Girardeau in 1941. At the time, Charlette’s grandfather, the Rev. William Huffman, was pastor of Cape’s Red Star Baptist Church. Charlette told Stringfield her grandfather received a call in spring 1941 from local police asking him to travel with them to the site of an airplane crash outside the city limits to minister to the victims of the crash. When the Rev. Huffman arrived on the scene, police officers, firefighters, FBI agents, emergency medical crew and numerous military personnel — presumably from the Army air base in nearby Sikeston — were viewing what Huffman described as a disc-shaped object, the interior of which contained a small metal chair, gauges, dials and hieroglyphic-like inscriptions and writings around the inside. He also saw three entitles, or “non-human people,” lying on the ground. Two were just outside the craft, with a third somewhat farther away. He described the bodies as hairless with large heads, big eyes, small mouths and very small ears. The Rev. Huffman said the dead individuals were about 4 feet tall and seemed to have no hard bone structure but very long arms and fingers. Shortly after viewing the dead bodies, Rev. Huffman was asked to pray over them. Upon doing so, he was escorted by military officials to a nearby location where he was sworn to secrecy and strongly warned to never discuss the crash with anyone. Huffman did not know what was told to others at the scene, but he was told, “This didn’t happen, you didn’t see this. This is national security and is to never to be talked about again.” Given the large number of individuals present, it was highly likely the secret would eventually be revealed. And, although the Rev. Huffman intended to keep silent regarding his participation in the affair, he was not completely successful. Among those who eventually learned the secret were his wife, Floy, his granddaughter, Charlette, and the brother of Cape Girardeau County Sheriff Clarence Schade, who partially confirmed the story in a notarized, sworn affidavit. CONTINUE READING: www.columbiatribune.com/opinion/oped/the-cape-girardeau-ufo-crash/article_687f4bcb-edff-5ce7-9111-ab3d9a0a5463.html
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Post by swamprat on Apr 13, 2016 19:48:52 GMT -6
75th anniversary of alleged UFO crash in Cape GirardeauTuesday, April 12th 2016, Written by Amber Ruch, Digital Content Executive Producer And by Kadee Brosseau, Reporter
CAPE GIRARDEAU, MO (KFVS TV Channel 12) -
April 12 marked the 75th anniversary of the alleged "Cape Girardeau UFO crash of 1941."
Cape Girardeau UFO researcher Michael Huntington said the story dates back to 1941 when a reverend was called to what he thought was a plane crash to read the last rights of the passengers.
“The Reverend William Huffman, who was the minister there, was called by the local sheriff to come assist in delivering some sort of last rights at a plane crash. That’s what the Reverend was under the impression that he was going to do. A car arrived at his house which was nearby [the current Redstar Baptist Church location] and they drove about 18 miles or so outside of Cape Girardeau closer to the Chaffee area. When they showed up on the scene, it was not a plane crash, it was, allegedly, a flying saucer, a classic silver, round disk that had crashed, that had started a fire. There were police and fire there to take care of the scene, put out the fire on a local farmer’s field," Huntington said.
"The Reverend arrived and saw a classic flying disk with part of the side ripped open and two alien bodies that were at least dead and one that may have been dying, may have been alive, couldn’t breathe," he continued. "The Reverend looked inside of the flying saucer and saw wires and components of some sort of alien design. There were strange hieroglyphics and bizarre knobs and dials. The Reverend knew that he couldn’t really give the last rights. About that time, the army air corps arrived from Sikeston Field and cordoned off the area and swore everybody to secrecy and confiscated any pictures. There were pictures allegedly taken that night of men holding one of the alien bodies and somewhere out there are those pictures."
"It became part of legend; it’s Cape Girardeau’s urban legend," Huntington said.
According to the legend, the story was kept quiet for years, but witnesses told the story on their deathbeds.
"The story got out through Charlotte Mann who was the Reverend’s granddaughter, who began to give accounts of the story in the late '70s," Huntington said. "This story has been known about by UFO researchers as far back as then. It was a deathbed confession. Reverend Mann told the story to his granddaughter and she had seen pictures, I believe, at one time of the alleged alien. Years after the event, obviously, she told researchers and they began to look into it.”
Whether you believe the stories or not, Huntington said the crash is important to history, folklore and culture.
“This story, whether you believe it or not, is part of Cape Girardeau’s history. It’s part of our culture, it’s part of our regional folklore, and it’s part of a broader history of UFOs, which is a part of American history. Nobody can deny the influence of UFO culture, UFO stories, the visuals, the fascination. Nobody can deny that it’s had an impact on American culture and American politics," Huntington said.
Huntington asked that if you have any information on this alleged crash, to please contact him or another researcher.
"If anybody out there within the Cape Girardeau area or Jackson or, especially, folks near Chaffee, if you’ve heard any stories, share them with us. Try to get ahold or me or some of the other researchers out there. The more information we have, the more we can get an idea of what actually occurred," Huntington said.
Find more information here: www.facebook.com/www.MO41BombshellBeforeRoswell/?pnref=story
www.kfvs12.com/story/31705969/75th-anniversary-of-alleged-ufo-crash-in-cape-girardeau
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Post by lois on Apr 14, 2016 19:42:55 GMT -6
Chaffee huh? Now I know the whereabouts . I use to read it was ten miles west of town.
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Post by skywalker on Apr 15, 2016 11:39:22 GMT -6
Do you know where it is? Have you ever been out there?
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Post by lois on Apr 16, 2016 20:06:02 GMT -6
Do you know where it is? Have you ever been out there? Sky you go out to 55 west side of cape down to the Diversion channel about four miles turn West and go pass the airport. There you get on highway 25 . You go on 25 for about 15 minutes straight west. It is hilly and trees galore. Chaffee is a town so small if you close your eyes a second you have passed it. You know that area even today has more sightings than any place else. There is a Air Force base south of Cape. And it was there in 1941. The Red Star Baptist church has been flooded from the river so many time it should be torn down. My daughter Anna actually got married there in the 90s. The granddaughter is not so young today.
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