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Post by auntym on Oct 3, 2011 10:22:55 GMT -6
Chief Shares Knowledge About Star Nations, UFO's [/color]
Uploaded by GreenGuerrillas on Jun 13, 2010
Chief Golden Light Eagle/ Standing Elk shares indigenous knowledge about the Star Nations, UFO's, extraterrestrials.
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Post by sunbow on Oct 16, 2011 8:19:45 GMT -6
Big mixture of current western thought (star names and gravity), with indigenous beliefs. Would have rather heard some old stories that were not tainted.
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Post by skywalker on Oct 17, 2011 20:25:27 GMT -6
I don't know if there are any old stories about star people. I have a book called Indian Legends that was written back in the late 1800s and there are no "star people" stories in it at all. I'm wondering if maybe these star legends might have been invented only recently. If so, the question would be when were they invented? After 1980 when Roswell started to become popular...after 1961 when Barny and betty Hill told their story? Or could it have been after 1947 when the UFOs first started appearing on a regular basis? Are they based on what was reported in the media and pop culture or do they have some basis in actual alien contact?
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Post by paulette on Oct 17, 2011 20:41:42 GMT -6
I don't know if there would have been "books" - if anywhere such stories should be in an oral tradition. And would First Nations people (very belittled in the history of interactions with European derived settlers/conquerers have told these stories?
One thing he said that jived with my memories of my possible contact in 67. He said they cannot handle our gravity well. I said to the hypnotist who regressed me - I sense a difficulty in breathing due to our gravity. Its why (I guessed) there was a mind touch rather than out and out abduction. However I don't rule that out either as we all fell asleep until high morning.
I am going to ask some local First Nations people about this.
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Post by skywalker on Oct 17, 2011 20:50:38 GMT -6
That Indian Legends book that I have was written by somebody who gathered up as many oral legends as he could find and wrote them all down. Not a single "star people" legend was in it. You are right about them passing down most of their info orally though. I suppose that even if it is a recent invention it would be kind of hard to trace back to its beginning. The written accounts of it should be traceable but they are probably very recent and I am sure would have been influenced by other popular UFO/alien stories.
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Post by paulette on Oct 18, 2011 8:46:30 GMT -6
This could be true. However. I so enjoyed the animated short (by the Canadian Film Board) here because the story (a recent one supposedly about a Sask. family) is so classically First Nations. They noticed the dogs barking (hard evidence of something). The father put the binoculars on it and saw a UFO. They actually CALLED the police (unusual I would think - both that they called and also that they came). Then he drummed to it. And then they all went to bed and didn't think about it anymore. Didn't worry about "lost time" - a concept that would harder to prove in a culture that doesn't necessarily time everything. The end of the story was - they went to bed and didn't worry about it.
Same with the Susquatch stories - the figures appear on totem poles and in legends but no one is particularly excited about it or looks for them. A live and let live mentality that we don't have. I have hoped that I wouldn't live to hear that a Susquatch was proven to be real - by being shot dead by someone. For sure, some are trying to do so.
I say - if you know any first Nations People - ask them. Be prepared to wait for an answer.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2011 13:56:16 GMT -6
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Post by sunbow on Oct 18, 2011 18:45:38 GMT -6
Great poem.
There were two Medicine people from Northern Canada visiting Ohio a half dozen years ago and having a drum circle. During Q & A I asked if they had any stories about the star people. There was some translating, in which case their western students were amazed that these stories existed, but the two elders replied, "It would take to long to make you understand these stories." Thus, we never heard them.
I think it is something like 'don't cast pearls to swine'. I would hope we are growing enough to be told what these people who kept their old stories alive have to tell.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2011 16:47:57 GMT -6
We've lost a lot by becoming such a techno civilization We've become less a part of the earth...less a part of each other. Now..there seems to be a nudge back in that direction but only with a small percentage of the population. Spiritual values are changing more from religion to cosmic intelligence, God or the Great Spirit and I think it's a wonderful bit of progress.
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Post by sunbow on Nov 20, 2011 9:29:54 GMT -6
IMO: Spirituality has nothing to do with religion: dogma and words. It is about living from the heart with connection to each other and the living natural world.
I think there is a start among some people. My hope is that the hundreth monkey will get it, then all will change.
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