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Post by auntym on Jan 3, 2012 12:17:19 GMT -6
news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/12/111220-end-of-world-2012-maya-calendar-explained-ancient-science/?source=link_tw20121202news-maya NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC[/color] End of World in 2012? Maya "Doomsday" Calendar ExplainedMonument text's "poetic flourish" confuses modern minds, experts say. A painting of everyday life in a Maya village. Illustration by H. Tom Hall, National Geographic John Roach for National Geographic News Published December 20, 2011 It's remotely possible the world will end in December 2012. But don't credit the ancient Maya calendar for predicting it, say experts on the Mesoamerican culture. (Related pictures: "2012 Doomsday Myths Debunked.") It's true that the so-called long-count calendar—which spans roughly 5,125 years starting in 3114 B.C.—reaches the end of a cycle on December 21, 2012. That day brings to a close the 13th Bak'tun, an almost 400-year period in the Maya long-count calendar. But rather than moving to the next Bak'tun, the calendar will reset at the end of the 13th cycle, akin to the way a 1960s automobile would click over at mile 99,999.9 and reset to zero. "We, of course, know that really means a hundred thousand [miles] and not zero," said William Saturno, an expert on Maya archaeology at Boston University. "So, is [the end of Bak'tun 13] a large period ending? Yes. Did the Maya like period endings? Yes," Saturno said. "Would this have been a period ending they thought was wicked cool? You bet. The biggest period endings they experience are Bak'tun endings." But "was it predicted to be the end the world? No. That's just us." Instead, for the Maya, the end of the long count represents the end of an old cycle and the beginning of a new one, according to Emiliano Gallaga Murrieta, the Chiapas state division director of Mexico's National Institute of Anthropology and History. "It is like for the Chinese, this is the Year of the [Rabbit], and the next year is going to the Year of the Dragon, and the next is going to be another animal in the calendar," Gallaga said. Maya Prophecy for End of the World?Written references to the end of Bak'tun 13 are few. In fact, most Maya scholars cite only one: a stone tablet on Monument 6 at the Tortuguero archaeological site in Mexico's Tabasco state CONTINUE READING: news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/12/111220-end-of-world-2012-maya-calendar-explained-ancient-science/?source=link_tw20121202news-maya
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Post by AaronFarquhar on Jan 15, 2012 4:33:47 GMT -6
I just dont understand if its only just the end of a cycle and it resets itself then why did they start the Calender 3000 years before the Mayans were even there?
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Post by skywalker on Jan 15, 2012 9:43:38 GMT -6
I think it's possible it might be a record of some event that occurs every 5000 years...something that was so big that the Mayans took notice of it the last two times it happened. Maybe some giant comet or some other big astronomical thing is going to take place. I don't think the world will come to an end because if it did it would have ended the last time. It will be interesting to see what if anything happens.
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Post by AaronFarquhar on Jan 15, 2012 19:32:42 GMT -6
Skywalker, I agree my friend. I have heard people decode the Mayan language and predictions and so on but is it correctly translated or is it just an estimated guess??
I use to think maybe its the start of the new Ice Age, But scientists say the next ice age is not due for another 1500years but then again they say global warming may put a dent on it.
My personal opinion and belief is, 2012 is the year that Alien Visitors make themselves known. Its like the video on youtube i watched last night where a man tells the truth about whats on the moon and he says that for the earth and our civilization to go onto the next level, we need to know about whats out there in the universe. They told the governments that if they dont disclose there existence with in a certain time frame then they will do it themselves by just showing up in fleets of ships over metropolitan areas.
I think 2012 is the time this will happen, and just think how exciting it will be, People have been talking about 2012 for decades and we are finally here, some people sit back and say, Its just like U2K bug and everything, But its nothing like that, This stuff is backed up by thousands and thousands of years of ancient civilizations, The Mayans and The Chinese both predicted 2012.
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Post by skywalker on Jan 15, 2012 20:21:19 GMT -6
I believe the year and date are correctly translated but what is going to happen is just a guess. The words were badly damaged and unable to be translated. It could be anything from a huge cataclysmic event that destroys the universe to...just another day. Just about anything in between is a possibility. I think that whatever it is will be interesting, if for no other reason than to see how people react to it. I think this will be much bigger than the Y2K thing. I didn't even give that one a second thought because it was a modern invention based more on what might happen if the computers all failed because of the date change over. The Mayans didn't have computers 5000 years ago...at least not that I know of. i predict this will be an exciting year.
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Post by AaronFarquhar on Jan 16, 2012 4:44:49 GMT -6
Yeh i think your right, In the end we just dont know what will happen, My father said to me "Everyone is trying to predict what is going to happen but i bet you any money Aaron, That when the time comes, it will be something that no one ever expected" and i think he may be right, I guess at the end of the day we just need to sit back and wait to see what happens.
I dont know why the heck i wrote the U2K Bug, I meant Y2K. But yeh that Bug was nothing but a man made freak out.
HAHA i just noticed your Avatar Pic, The Mufons are coming, lol i think i see Uncle Clifford..lol
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Post by skywalker on Jan 16, 2012 7:47:38 GMT -6
Pigswillfly gave that avatar to me a long time ago and I liked it so much that I kept it. ;D
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Post by paulette on Jan 16, 2012 14:32:40 GMT -6
When the speedometer turns from 99999 whatever to zero it IS significant. Will the car last another cycle....should I sell it/leave the planet before the end of the next one? Oh...ooops....nowhere to go. Well then I'll go ah, somewhere else than where I am. Up on the mountain...wait...its really cold and there isn't much fuel up there. Or anything to eat. If there were earthquakes I'll be cut off. OK...not a mountain...oh...and some mountains are volcanic - maybe not the best places then. By the ocean - wait wait...the water is rising rapidly and I'm not even considering a Tsunami. Maybe NEAR the ocean. Hey...thats where I live now. About 60 feet up from a freshwater river (small) that has salmon in it. Not supposed to scoop them up while spawning but I sure would if the world was in a crisis. Smoke em, eat em, trade em. OK. Pass the potato chips. I'm good. Enough for now. And if not...well....it was good times, going and buying almost whatever one wanted. Crazy but good. Pass me that rat on a stick.
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Post by skywalker on Jan 16, 2012 18:10:59 GMT -6
I just heard that they passed a law in Washington DC saying that exterminators can no longer kill rats. Instead they have to catch the rats, and their entire rat families, and relocate them somewhere else. I guess that's the Fed's 2012 contingency plan.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2012 21:51:45 GMT -6
When the speedometer turns from 99999 whatever to zero it IS significant. Will the car last another cycle....should I sell it/leave the planet before the end of the next one? Oh...ooops....nowhere to go. Well then I'll go ah, somewhere else than where I am. Up on the mountain...wait...its really cold and there isn't much fuel up there. Or anything to eat. If there were earthquakes I'll be cut off. OK...not a mountain...oh...and some mountains are volcanic - maybe not the best places then. By the ocean - wait wait...the water is rising rapidly and I'm not even considering a Tsunami. Maybe NEAR the ocean. Hey...thats where I live now. About 60 feet up from a freshwater river (small) that has salmon in it. Not supposed to scoop them up while spawning but I sure would if the world was in a crisis. Smoke em, eat em, trade em. OK. Pass the potato chips. I'm good. Enough for now. And if not...well....it was good times, going and buying almost whatever one wanted. Crazy but good. Pass me that rat on a stick. ;D
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Post by AaronFarquhar on Jan 17, 2012 4:20:01 GMT -6
Paulette, :') You got me thinking too hard and it hurts Skywalker, Hmm, Thats interesting, Next you know they will be an endangered species and no one will be able to hurt them or remove them from there natural habitat (Behind the Fridge)
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Post by skywalker on Jan 17, 2012 9:11:18 GMT -6
Maybe rats and cockroaches are really aliens and they have already invaded and conquered the planet.
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Post by AaronFarquhar on Jan 18, 2012 2:35:10 GMT -6
Ay, That movie, Starship Troopers, That was real. That blinken Obama, Why didnt he tell us???
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Post by jarmen71 on Jun 27, 2012 19:54:57 GMT -6
I do not believe its the end of the world, nor do I believe that the Mayan calenders that remained were the only ones made. The Spaniards destroyed many of the tablets and calendars that were there so no one can truly know. I think there will be direct contact and proof that people have been searching for, I just hope its from the right aliens. I find it kind of strange that the Mayan people left still wear the same clothes and the same style. My ancestors were the Aztec on my fathers side and Spaniard from my mothers side, which has no relevance just seems funny that they clashed and yet I am here today.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2012 17:44:51 GMT -6
Welcome Jarmen71 ! My brother-in-law is Mayan, and though he has family spread out through the US, he has only been here around 5 yrs. He dresses and knows about technology like we do. He keeps trying to get my sister to move back to Guatemala with him . He acts like he knows nothing about the Mayan Calender. Isn't that weird?
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Post by jarmen71 on Jun 28, 2012 20:30:38 GMT -6
Welcome Jarmen71 ! My brother-in-law is Mayan, and though he has family spread out through the US, he has only been here around 5 yrs. He dresses and knows about technology like we do. He keeps trying to get my sister to move back to Guatemala with him . He acts like he knows nothing about the Mayan Calender. Isn't that weird? Well he may act like there is nothing about the Calendar but then he wants to take your sister back to Guatemala...that is more strange. I have seen many articles where the people are coming to the US to spread the word of peace and going back to the simple way of life...perhaps that is what they came here to do. I am not Mayan but my ancestors were Aztec and Spaniard from both of my parents side. The videos you see on youtube are all about hope and say that nothing is going to happen, I wish I could believe that.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2012 6:53:19 GMT -6
Welcome Jarmen71 ! My brother-in-law is Mayan, and though he has family spread out through the US, he has only been here around 5 yrs. He dresses and knows about technology like we do. He keeps trying to get my sister to move back to Guatemala with him . He acts like he knows nothing about the Mayan Calender. Isn't that weird? Well he may act like there is nothing about the Calendar but then he wants to take your sister back to Guatemala...that is more strange. I have seen many articles where the people are coming to the US to spread the word of peace and going back to the simple way of life...perhaps that is what they came here to do. I am not Mayan but my ancestors were Aztec and Spaniard from both of my parents side. The videos you see on youtube are all about hope and say that nothing is going to happen, I wish I could believe that. The brother-in-law has his mother still there, and a young daughter. He speaks more of his mother. He had a brother killed down there over drugs. Brother-in-law is a new Christian; when I say he is "abusive" towards my sister I mean that he is (tries) very controlling. Old school stuff like she can't wear a t-shirt that has a picture of a snake on it. He gets angry that she buys a purse, while he sends all his money he makes to his mother. I do get the impression that if something worldwide were to happen, he thinks we would be "safer" in Guatemala. But honestly, he is a trained electrician and is appreciated more for this skill down there. I have other (blood) relatives here in U.S. that openly wonder if the problems related to "end times" are going to be so much worse here than other countries. . . My understanding of the Aztec culture is minimal. I know they had a huge, long, roadway system and I'm most astounded that even this was up for destruction . Because of things like this I do not trust what the history books say about them . "2012" as a disaster time has no meaning for me. I feel more "anxious" for people than for a cataclysmic event . It is a good time for some positive changes. The negative has its place also, and some people are really dragging their feet. ;D
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Post by jarmen71 on Jul 2, 2012 19:30:23 GMT -6
Well, in the South American culture most of the men are very dominating...I am married to one. lol. He is nothing like his ancestors. He is kind and patient, i mean he lives with me for goodness sake. There are few people that can live with the experiences I have had, the abilities I have and still keep his sanity. He keeps me grounded and has never not trusted me or my advice. He heard my many stories of the past and still is supportive. He has even begun to communicate without words although I think its more of a long term marriage thing that a physic ability ;D. I think there will be changes, I think that there will be terrified people and I think there will be those that bring calm among the chaos. No one can really say what is going to happen, we can only speculate. The dreams I have had are pretty centralized to the people I know and not on a global scale.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2012 0:30:16 GMT -6
Lol. I've heard that too. And they're known for womanizzing. . . . Sheesh. Can any man avoid that label? ;D ;D Sounds like you have a match made in Heaven . I have found that there seems to be a "mystical quality" about men that have Indian heritage. At least its something I sense. And its not just about "charisma", though it may be used that way . (And I generally try not to do any generalizing ;D )
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Post by auntym on Jul 9, 2012 11:15:25 GMT -6
www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/08/mayan-calendar-world-will_n_1655135.html?icid=maing-grid7
Mayan Calendar: World Will Not End In December 2012, Expert Says[/color] Updated: 07/09/2012 This undated image shows ancient Mayan hieroglyphics. By Erik Vance It's a bright summer day at the National Museum of Anthropology in Mexico City. Outside, in the sprawling front plaza rimmed by palm and willow trees, young couples cuddle by the steps, vendors sell wrestling masks and tacos, and five men dressed in traditional Totonac garb slowly spin upside down in the death defying "Dance of the Flyers" for the tourists. Inside the museum is a wonder of culture and history. Each wing is dedicated to a separate civilization in Mesoamerican culture—one for the Toltecs, another for Teotihuacan. But the largest spaces are reserved for the Aztecs and Maya. And in the center of the building is the stunning Aztec Stone of the Sun—often erroneously called the "Aztec Calendar"—perhaps the most recognizable symbol in Latin America. Diana Magaloni Kerpel, the museum director, peers at the stone. "It is not a calendar. It's really the image of space and time. It's an image of how the Aztecs conceived themselves as in the center of time and space," she says. "Look at that. There is face in the middle—that is the cosmos. The Maya wouldn't do that—ever." If you have not been paying attention to doomsayers or John Cusack movies, December 21, 2012, is the day that many say the Maya predicted the world would end. Internet stories regularly detail the Maya calendars although displaying the Aztec Stone of the Sun (including one, we regret, that was published on Scientific American Online). Looking at the reality of ancient Mesoamerica, it quickly becomes clear that much of the uproar rose out of a confusion of two distinct cultures that lived 500 years apart. "There's a lot of conflation between these two cultures. It would almost be like comparing England at the time of the War of the Roses to the Romans or the Romans to the Greeks in the age of Pericles," says Stephen Houston, a Mayanist at Brown University. "They are vastly different periods, separated by considerable distances. The societies had many shared features but they were organized in very different ways." To the average tourist, all the magnificent art here may blend together, and indeed they share many themes. But the Maya and Aztecs were very different cultures, analogous in many ways to the Greeks and Romans. Like the Greeks, the Maya were the older civilization to the east. Rather than a unified empire, they were more a collection of powerful city-states like Tikal and Calakmul, who occasionally fought each other. They also had highly realistic art and a form of mathematics far beyond that of ancient Europe. The Aztecs (properly called the Mexica), on the other hand, ran a Romanesque, centrally organized empire with a powerful origin story for their all-powerful central city. They believed their people began in a mythical place to the north, called Aztlán. Like the Romans or the Jews before, they wandered through the wilderness, eventually reaching a giant lake in the mountains where they built Tenochtitlan—the largest city in the world at the time, now called Mexico City. That was A.D. 1325, four centuries after the end of the great Maya era. The differences between the cultures can be seen in their art, politics and especially the way they perceived time. CONTINUE READING: www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/08/mayan-calendar-world-will_n_1655135.html?icid=maing-grid7
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Post by auntym on Dec 3, 2012 19:28:01 GMT -6
i thought this was cute... ... sorry, i can't make it any bigger...
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