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Post by auntym on Mar 4, 2012 22:28:34 GMT -6
www.history.com/topics/sitting-bull?cmpid=Social_Twitter_Topics_03042012_1THE HISTORY CHANNELSITTING BULLSitting Bull (c.1831-1890) was the Native American chief under whom the Sioux tribes united in their struggle for survival on the North American Great Plains. Following the discovery of gold in the Black Hills of South Dakota in 1874, the Sioux came into increased conflict with U.S. authorities. The Great Sioux wars of the 1870s would culminate in the 1876 Battle of the Little Bighorn, in which Sitting Bull, Crazy Horse and a confederation of tribes would defeat federal troops under George Armstrong Custer. After several years in Canada, Sitting Bull finally surrendered to U.S. forces with his people on the brink of starvation, and was finally forced to settle on a reservation. In 1890, Sitting Bull was shot and killed while being arrested by U.S. and Indian agents, fearful that he would help lead the growing Ghost Dance movement aimed at restoring the Sioux way of life. Sitting Bull is remembered for his great courage and his stubborn determination to resist white domination. Sitting Bull was born into the Hunkpapa division of the Teton Sioux. He joined his first war party at age 14 and soon gained a reputation for fearlessness in battle. He became a leader of the powerful Strong Heart warrior society and, later, was a participant in the Silent Eaters, a select group concerned with tribal welfare. As a tribal leader Sitting Bull helped extend the Sioux hunting grounds westward into what had been the territory of the Shoshone, Crow, Assiniboin, and other Indian tribes. His first skirmish with white soldiers occurred in June 1863 during the U.S. Army's retaliation against the Santee Sioux after the “Minnesota Massacre,” in which the Teton Sioux had no part. For the next five years he was in frequent hostile contact with the army, which was invading the Sioux hunting grounds and bringing ruin to the Indian economy. In 1866 he became principal chief of the northern hunting Sioux, with Crazy Horse, leader of the Oglala Sioux, as his vice-chief. Respected for his courage and wisdom, Sitting Bull was made principal chief of the entire Sioux nation about 1867. TO SEE VIDEOS & CONTINUE READING: www.history.com/topics/sitting-bull?cmpid=Social_Twitter_Topics_03042012_1
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Post by skywalker on Mar 5, 2012 19:48:02 GMT -6
I read that the Sioux was the only tribe that actually benefited from a treaty. I seriously doubt that the government upheld it though. The Feds have never kept any of their other promises so why would they keep that one?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2012 22:58:23 GMT -6
Guys like Sitting Bull and Geronimo were true warriors Imo. Its sad and horrific the way many of the indians were inhumanely treated.
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Post by skywalker on Mar 5, 2012 23:03:47 GMT -6
I like Geronimo. That dude did some serious behind kicking.
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Post by randy on Jun 26, 2012 23:55:18 GMT -6
Sitting bull was not present for the Little Bighorn battle he was making medicine in the hills hence he was an old indian later. The history of the relations with the Sioux is complex and not simple. Red Cloud liked immigrants as they were easy to kill and to plunder. they had neat stuff. he made great speeches at treaty meetings then later laughed about the speeches while having his whiskey in the evening Caught in all this was the lowly soldier tasked with fighting the indians in long campaigns and tasked with burying the dead they killed creatively. Stress while not them recognized still existed. The Sioux nearly took the town of new Ulm. which was saved by reinforcements at the last moment. It was a bitterly fought battle. mangus colorado did wipe out an entire town of 500 people only two men escaped. this has bee largely ignored in history. The fighting around New Ulm resulted in the death of over 500 farmers and their families often killed creatively. This creative killing also was applied to the farm animals at times. After burying hundreds of dead civilians the army did get a little testy with the noble savages when they encountered them The horrors and stress were suddenly released. When one starts such things in war it is a good idea not to lose the war Such is history.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2012 9:42:38 GMT -6
Many greats ago my grandfather was a Sioux Indian chief. In some respects...what the agent said in the Matrix is no lie. Humanity is a bit like a virus..living off of others and leaving little left over. We're pretty good at taking what we want. Indian land..slaves..and the government keeps right on taking in taxes and what it wants from other countries. I'm not so sure why we're proud anymore
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Post by paulette on Aug 3, 2012 10:40:05 GMT -6
This is off Ask.com:
Best Answer - Chosen by Asker Scalps were taken in wars between the Visigoths, the Franks and the Anglo-Saxons in the 9th century according to the writings of Abbott Emmanuel H. D. Domenech. His sources included the decalvare of the ancient Germans, the capillos et cutem detrahere of the code of the Visigoths, and the Annals of Flodoard.
Robert McGee, scalped as a child by Sioux Chief Little Turtle, in 1864. Certain tribes of North American Indians practiced scalping, in some instances up until the 20th century. According to ethnohistorian James Axtell, there is abundant evidence that the Native American practice of scalping existed long before Europeans arrived. Axtell argues that there is no evidence that the early European explorers and settlers who came to the Americas were familiar with the ancient European practice of scalping, or that they ever taught scalping to Native Americans. Axtell writes that the idea that Europeans taught scalping to Native Americans became popular recently, during the 1960s. This idea quickly became conventional wisdom because it fit the tenor of the times of the countercultural 1960s, writes Axtell, but he argues that archaeological, historical, pictorial, and linguistic evidence contradicts this notion.
It is believed that contact with Europeans widened the practice of scalping among Native Americans, since some Euro-American governments encouraged the practice among their Native American allies during times of war. For example, in the American Revolutionary War, Henry Hamilton, the British Lieutenant-Governor of Canada, was known by American Patriots as the "hair-buyer general" because it was believed he encouraged and paid his Native American allies to scalp American settlers. When Hamilton was captured in the war by the Americans, he was treated as a war criminal instead of a prisoner of war because of this. However, both Native Americans and American frontiersmen frequently scalped their victims in this era.
Interesting - scalping was a early European tradition and the English paid bounties on scalped French Canadians as well as American settlers moving into Canadian (previous First Nations) lands. Atrocities were practiced by both sides. I think Randy you have a point - terrifying settlers by torturing and killing was part of the mix. Like soldiers in any war, war brutalizes the participants. There is still a Utube film of two American "peacekeepers" holding a prepubescent boy over a fire that I unfortunately stumbed upon recently.
And like fighting people in other lands with other beliefs - people at war cease to believe that they have humanity in common with their enemies. That's what I love about the song: Brothers in Arms. It acknowledges this gently.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2012 13:36:18 GMT -6
Neil Diamond has a song out that I've always loved..He's my Brother. Talking about Jesus, Genghis Khan, Fannie Bryce, Mozart, Bogart , etc. Each one of them..one thing to share..traveled beneath the same sun...looked up in wonder at the same moon..and wept when it was all done..for being done too soon.. Same idea..we all have things in common if we're enemies or not..and it is a good thing to remember..even if pretty tough to do sometimes.
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Post by randy on Aug 15, 2012 0:03:01 GMT -6
I have read that the french were the ones who taught the local indians to scalp to prove they were killing the English. The native American folk were very brutal towards captives. Tribes like the Mohawk and Delaware would kill captives slowly in sight of places held under siege they made a big party of it and often ate the remains for dinner to prove how fierce they were. i have always liked Crazy Horse myself. Red Cloud was the most honest when he said he liked immigrants as they were easy to kill and had lots of good stuff to loot. mangus Colorado was one of the most blood thisrty he wiped out a town of 500 and it is rarely mentioned. To survive mentally one has to detach themselves from the horrors of war. My grandfather survived France in WWI including being wounded and gassed. He had to be like an onion and not let it get past a certain layer mentally. PTSD probably existed in the old indian wars army but it was not recognized. Often called on to bury the dead killed slowly by the indians when confronted by the same indians and shooting started they suddenly released all the stress at once. Not good but they were human
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Post by fisher on Oct 28, 2012 8:20:11 GMT -6
I remember hearing one story of how Tatanka Iyotanka(Sitting Bull)during a battle, dismounted from his horse, sat upon the ground and lit his pipe as bullets and arrows wizzed by, none hitting him. When the enemy saw this they became afraid of his medicine and fled.
Before Custer's defeat at a sun dance, Tatanka Iyotanka had a hundred small pieces of flesh cut from his body as an offering then he had a vision of blue coated pony soldiers falling upside down into the Little Big Horn River Lakota encampment.
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