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May 10, 2015 21:01:32 GMT -6
Post by skywalker on May 10, 2015 21:01:32 GMT -6
From what I've been hearing they didn't have much credibility to begin with. Was this really a hoax though or just shoddy investigating mixed with wishful thinking? It pretty much followed the same pattern as that six inch mummified "alien body" that turned out to be an aborted human fetus. They also blew that one way out of proportion and made a movie about it and tried to make money off of it. Once all the rest of the investigators got involved it was solved very easily. I think this is a perfect example of the non-professionalism that exists within ufology. Most UFO "investigators" just don't have the scientific training to accurately investigate evidence like this yet when they find something that they believe to be of huge importance they hide it away and try to keep it to themselves so that they can have all the credit for the discovery of whatever it is. It seems there are too many amateur wannabes and not enough professionals but that is unfortunately what we are dealt with since most real scientists don't want anything to do with UFOs or aliens. I guess we're just going to have to keep putting up with crap like this.
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May 12, 2015 15:46:38 GMT -6
Post by auntym on May 12, 2015 15:46:38 GMT -6
kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2015/05/roswell-slides-statement-by-tom-carey.htmlTuesday, May 12, 2015 Posted by Kevin Randle
Roswell Slides Statement by Tom Carey with Note from Don Schmitt(Blogger’s note: Yes, I said there would be nothing more about the Roswell Slides, but I also said that if there was a statement issued by Tom and Don, I would publish it without editorial comment. There is a statement that Tom issued. Before it was published elsewhere, Don had asked for a couple of modifications. That statement was published before Don asked for the changes. This is the statement, slightly modified from the original version. Don made the changes.) We believe that the recently released "reading" of the placard by the so-called "Roswell Slides Research Group" is still open to debate. Ever since Don Schmitt and I became aware of the slides three years ago, our modus operandi has been four-fold: (1) to authenticate the age and integrity of the slides; (2) to obtain professional anthropological and forensic opinion as to what the body on the slides represented; (3) to find out as much as we could about Bernerd and Hilda Blair Ray, the long-deceased owners of the slides; and (4) to "read" the placard located at the foot of the body on the slides. We physically took the slides to Kodak's historian, who is an expert regarding Kodachrome., and, using several parameters of interrogation, he determined that the slides dated from the 1947-49 time period (manufacture to exposure). For the most part, the American anthropologists we contacted did not want to even look at the slides when they learned that they might be "UFO-related." Those who did, however, did so "off the record." They all concluded that the body on the slides was not that of a mummy but possibly that of a congenitally deformed child. Fortunately, we were able to secure Canadian and Mexican anthropologists and forensic anatomical experts who went "on the record" at our May 5th "beWitness" event in Mexico City. In short, their detailed presentations concluded that the body on the slides was: not a mammal, not a primate and not human. One, Richard Doble, after a detailed morphological examination, concluded that the creature on the slides did not evolve on earth. You already have Doble's report, and the report of the two Mexican authorities is still in translation. The Rays had no children or close relatives we could interview who could shed some light on their activities. Bernerd was an oil geologist whose zone of activity was the Permian Basin of west Texas and eastern New Mexico. He was also the President of a geological society in west Texas. Hilda was an oil attorney in Midland, Texas and an amateur pilot who, according a friend in the nursing home where Hilda passed away in 1988, was also friends with Mamie Eisenhower (General and later President Dwight D. Eisenhower's wife). There are a number of color slides in the collection that do appear to show Mamie Eisenhower in various situations. Prior to her death, Hilda Ray bequeathed almost $1M to the American Association of University Women. Regarding the placard, we quickly determined that (1) its content would be key to interpreting the slides; and (2) we could not read it. So, we sent copies to Dr. David Rudiak and Dr. Donald Burleson. Both had done exemplary work in trying to decipher the so-called "Ramey Memo" - a situation very similar to placard issue here. Both responded to us that the placard was "unreadable." Through a contact, we had the Photo Interpretation Unit at the Pentagon in Washington, DC take a look at it. They said that it was "unreadable." A copy went to a company in New York now requesting anonymity that conducted the analysis on a major historical artifact. That company's response to us was that the placard was "unreadable." Another copy went to the people at Adobe, Inc. (manufacturers of Adobe Photoshop and the Adobe Reader on your computer). Their response? "It's unreadable." A copy also was also sent to aggressive Roswell researcher Anthony Bragalia who also reported to me that it was "unreadable." (Bragalia has now aggressively joined in with our critics). Our own computer guy says that he applied the "SmartDeblur" software to the placard over a year ago without any success. He did so again this week to an enhanced, sharper version of the placard with the latest edition of the "SmartDeBlur" program, again without success. CONTINUE READING: kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2015/05/roswell-slides-statement-by-tom-carey.html
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May 12, 2015 16:07:15 GMT -6
Post by auntym on May 12, 2015 16:07:15 GMT -6
this is what all the fuss is about... Hmmmm...i can't help but wonder if this could be another government disinformation ruse to destroy the owners of the roswell slides because they are not suppose to exist... Hmmmmmm ROSWELL SLIDES
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May 12, 2015 21:25:32 GMT -6
Post by skywalker on May 12, 2015 21:25:32 GMT -6
this is what all the fuss is about... Hmmmm...i can't help but wonder if this could be another government disinformation ruse to destroy the owners of the roswell slides because they are not suppose to exist... Hmmmmmm I doubt it, auntym. The body has already been identified as a mummified child that used to be on display in the Mesa Verde National Park Museum a long time ago. It's no longer on display because museums don't display dead human bodies like they used to. They try to show a little more respect and empathy towards the native American cultures that the bodies came from. That plus the words written on the placard in the photo pretty much confirm it. It's just another misidentification of a dead human. www.roswellslides.com/the-roswell-slides/the-child-identified/
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May 13, 2015 11:38:35 GMT -6
Post by paulette on May 13, 2015 11:38:35 GMT -6
I think I saw that in Mesa Verde in 1976 on my way through and eventually to Canada. At that time, one could enter the living quarters and wander freely around.
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May 14, 2015 12:48:42 GMT -6
Post by auntym on May 14, 2015 12:48:42 GMT -6
www.express.co.uk/news/nature/576996/NASA-astronaut-walked-Moon-UFO-crashed-Roswell-aliens-found NASA astronaut who walked on Moon says UFO crashed in Roswell and aliens WERE foundA NASA astronaut who once walked on the Moon says he STILL believes a UFO with aliens DID crash in a US desert before the government covered it up.By Jon Austin Thu, May 14, 2015 Former NASA astronaut Edgar Mitchell was one of six key players involved in the release of a new 'smoking gun' image said to show one of the aliens that died in the crash near Roswell, New Mexico, in 1947. The picture is now widely believed to have been false or a hoax. But despite the 'Be Witness' event last week not changing history in the quest for extra terrestrial life as it had suggested it would, Mr Mitchell remains adamant that more than one alien landed at Roswell nearly 70 years ago - and some of them were captured alive. He said: "The truth about it is that it was real. I was there when the Roswell incident took place. I was on my way to college and had just graduated high school. "One day, it was in the Roswell Daily Record, which was a newspaper in Roswell, about an alien spacecraft that had crashed, and the next day that it had been denied by the Air Force, saying that it was a weather balloon. "I believed that and went off to college. "Many years later, after I had been to the moon and came back, I went out to Roswell to give lectures, talk and meet people I knew since I was a kid. "Many of the people I knew, along with descendants of the people who had been involved in the Roswell incident, told me their stories.” He said the descendants included the son of an undertaker who provided "coffins for the alien bodies" and the son of a sheriff who "kept traffic away from the crash site". Mr Mitchell was meant to attend the 6,000-audience conference in Mexico, but actually appeared via video link, saying at 84 he was too old to travel. He spoke of why the authorities have kept "alien visitations above top secret" during an interview with HighCountry News ahead of another UFO conference this month. Speaking of the now panned 'alien' image, Mr Mitchell added: "They're certainly not human - looks like what the little greys look like." Mr Mitchell also said that we don't know what beings are in the Universe because our planet is like a grain of sand on a huge beach. He was the sixth man to walk on the moon as part of the Apollo 14 mission in 1971. CONTINUE READING: www.express.co.uk/news/nature/576996/NASA-astronaut-walked-Moon-UFO-crashed-Roswell-aliens-found
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May 15, 2015 14:06:17 GMT -6
Post by auntym on May 15, 2015 14:06:17 GMT -6
devoid.blogs.heraldtribune.com/15293/broccoli-or-smores-hmm/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter Broccoli or smores? Hmm ...By Billy Cox, Herald-Tribune / devoid.blogs.heraldtribune.com/author/cox// Friday, May 15, 2015 OK, let’s face it, nothing competes with dead space aliens when it comes to creating orgasmic worldwide hype. And when the pyrite that tried to pass for bullion dissolved into snake oil during last week’s “Roswell Slides” calamity in Mexico City, there were plenty of critics quick to point to the hogslop as the industry standard for evidence attending The Great Taboo. So now might be a good time to step back and revisit the National Aviation Reporting Center on Anomalous Phenomena website, which would probably do somersaults if it could get even a fraction of the attention provoked by the clumsy mummy farce. On April 10, without any fanfare (no dead aliens/visuals = no buzz), NARCAP executive director Ted Roe issued a status report on the non-profit’s ongoing research, at home and abroad, since 1999. And just for reference, stunts like the "Roswell Slides" have so poisoned the well for inquisitive fence-sitters, NARCAP from its inception ditched the UFO acronym altogether for the more neutral unidentified aerial phenomena, or UAP. Either way, institutional American attitudes continue to stagnate despite NARCAP's attempt to frame the mystery as a potential flight safety issue. “Data regarding aviation related UAP observations and incidents flows away from the aviation system and is not examined for safety factors by US aviation authorities, the NTSB, etc.,” writes Roe. “In fact, the FAA refers pilots and air traffic controllers that want to make a UAP or ‘UFO’ report to contact civilian UFO research groups and private businesses. These organizations have not published a single study nor demonstrated the slightest concern for the matter of UAP and aviation safety.” Led by retired NASA scientist Richard Haines, NARCAP’s multi-disciplinary, multi-national contributors labor thanklessly to educate (mostly) pilots on the potential hazards of close encounters, which have never gone away despite nearly a half century of wishful thinking from the University of Colorado and the U.S. Air Force. As technical work, this is forbidding stuff, dense with physics and geometry, largely inaccessible to general audiences and most assuredly not for the sound bites that pass for journalism these days. Take a single report from 2010, Project Sphere, which attempted to get a better grip on those elusive white blips and metallic-looking orbs that have, for decades, been photographed and detected on radar. Fifteen contributors weighed in -- from Spain, Canada, France, the U.K., Brazil and Japan, joining American scientists like NASA engineer Lawrence Lemke (his chapter: “Aerodynamics of Spheres”) and Richard Spalding from Sandia National Laboratories (“An Atmospheric Electrical Hypothesis for Spherical Luminosities Occurring at Aircraft Altitudes”). Properly circumspect, NARCAP declined to hang a label on this puzzle, but felt secure enough in its data to make seven recommendations, including the integration of UAP characteristics into flight-simulator training, alongside more conventional variables like wind shear and bird collisions. If knowledge alone wasn’t a sufficient motivator, perhaps the threat of liability could make the case. “If UAP are judged to be naturally occurring so-called acts of God ...” wrote Haines in the report’s conclusion, “then airlines have less to fear in terms of litigation. If, on the other hand, UAP are discovered to be intelligently controlled or otherwise artificial, then a quite different legal judgement could be made, one whose outcome could only be guessed at. It makes good sense, then, that we should try to discover the core nature of UAP sooner than later if, for no other reason, (than) to obviate some of these problems that are associated with aviation accident litigation.” Not even a shrug, of course, from U.S. authorities. But in his blogpost, Roe reminds us of how the rest of the world has made adjustments to The Great Taboo since Uncle Sam bailed in 1969, e.g., the rise of government studies sweeping South America, the expansion of NARCAP’s links into Chile, Germany and Mexico, even a concession from the British Ministry of Defence — which proclaims itself officially disinterested in these matters — “that UAP exist is indisputable… and they (UAP) are probably a threat to safe aviation.” NARCAP’s work should be news. If only it could find some dead alien mummy pix.
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May 18, 2015 11:00:41 GMT -6
Post by auntym on May 18, 2015 11:00:41 GMT -6
ufodigest.com/article/alien-truth-0518 MAUSSAN'S ALLEGED 'ALIEN TRUTH" IS REFUTEDBy Scott Corrales / inexplicata.blogspot.ca/May 18, 2015 Less than a week after having gathered seven thousand followers at the National Auditorium, a renowned British physician has refuted Jaime Maussán, ascertaining the provenance of one of his main items of evidence adduced during the event: the “alien” photograph was pure theater. The host of the Tercer Milenio television show affirmed that the corpse corresponded to one of the alleged aliens that crashed in Roswell, U.S.A. in 1947. Pure Theater British daily The Mirror published an article refuting the UFO researcher, stating that the image presented on May 5th was the photograph of a mummified native child from the southwestern United States. The fact had been classified by leading researchers as a “smoking gun” regarding the fact that “aliens” had reached Earth. Tony Braglia, one of the “leading researchers” who analyzed the body, admitted that “a serious error of identification” had occurred, and apologized to the Native American community: “I must offer my sincere and deep apologies to the Native American Community of the Southwestern United Statas. One of their children, a child who died a century ago, was turned into a spectacle. Whoever he was, he deserved great respect and dignity,” he remarked. He added that a series of “extraordinary coincidences” were involved in this case. According to The Mirror, Maussán said the affair is “far from over”. When asked whether the “alien” was a dead child, he replied: “This may be true. But there are too many anomalies pointing toward the unlikely chance of its being human.” The Event Jaime Maussán, UFO researcher and journalist, was accompanied by U.S. and Canadian experts on the subject. At 7:30 p.m. on the dot, attendees listened to the conversation directed by Maussán, who summoned each of his guests one by one to substantiate his cosmic spectacle, called Be Witness: The Change of History. Accompanied by experts James J. Hurtak, Paul T. Hellyer, Thomas J. Carey, Donald R. Schmitt, Edgar Mitchell and doctors José de Jesús Zalce Benítez, Luis Antonio De Alba and Richard Dolan, they gradually wove the elements of the extraterrestrial phenomenon since 1945 and their connection to the Roswell incident in the New Mexico desert, where a crashed UFO was discovered. “This will be a historic night, awaited by so many of us, and we have the evidence to influence popular opinion regarding the extraterrestrial phenomenon. There are thousands and millions of galaxies, and we continue to believe that we are the only ones and the most intelligent, but this is not so,” said the host. The researcher of this phenomenon said the key to the paradigm shift is found in two slides, showing two extraterrestrials. And no one does anything… “They are proof of extraordinary life, and the dream of flying among the stars will soon be achieved. We are not holding this meeting for money or fame, but to share knowledge for the betterment of mankind,” he remarked. Jaime Maussán’s studies and statements, presented last Tuesday night, in regard to the evidence of two slides showing extraterrestrial images were backed by the invited experts. Up to now, no one was demanded to have their money refunded. ufodigest.com/article/alien-truth-0518
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May 18, 2015 12:46:01 GMT -6
Post by swamprat on May 18, 2015 12:46:01 GMT -6
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May 31, 2015 19:51:34 GMT -6
Post by auntym on May 31, 2015 19:51:34 GMT -6
kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2015/05/the-roswell-slides-and-mummys-placard.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitterSunday, May 31, 2015 The Roswell Slides and the Mummy's PlacardPosted by Kevin Randle You would have thought that once the placard in the slide had been read, and once that there was nearly universal acceptance of the translation suggesting that the body in the slide is that of a young boy, the debate would have ended. But this is ufology when nothing is ever ended no matter what the proof might be. It doesn’t matter what can be shown because there are those who won’t believe anything unless it reinforces their own belief structures. Such are the Roswell Slides and the placard. We are now told that it doesn’t matter what the placard says because we have all that “scientific” evidence from all those “authorities” who have examined the body on the slides. They say the body isn’t human and the placard is wrong. Just days after Don Schmitt had apologized for the fiasco in Mexico City, he was back telling us that the term, Roswell Slides, had been an invention of the skeptics and that neither he nor Tom Carey had ever called them the Roswell Slides… of course, overlooked in that was their attempts to link the slides to Roswell and that much of what was said and published revolved around Roswell. The Kodak expert dated the slides based on the coding, the slide mounts, and other information to the late 1940s, and former USAAF PFC Benavides said the body was like those he saw, so everyone thought of Roswell even if they hadn’t used the term, “Roswell Slides.” On Jimmy Church’s radio show Friday night, May 29, Schmitt explained some of these things to us. The show and the Don Schmitt segment starting about twenty minutes in can be heard here: www.spreaker.com/user/fade2black/ep-262Schmitt suggested that it was strange that they had provided high resolution scans to various experts to look at the writing on the placard and were told that they couldn’t make out even one letter. Schmitt said, “What were they (the Roswell Slides Research Group, among all those others) reading? It was a screen grab.” He said that it was from the event in Mexico City and that the slides hadn’t yet been released. It was taken off the Internet. “And they’re able to read it…and nobody else has been able to read it… How do you explain that?” Well, I can explain that because what Schmitt said was not exactly right. They all worked from a download of the slide that had been put up on Adam Dew’s website, which was a higher resolution scan than previously available and was posted not long after the May 5 extravaganza. They applied various software to that scan and were able to read the placard with relative ease. It wasn’t just the RSRG but others, unaffiliated with them, in various countries, who also read it and came to the same conclusions. Tony Bragalia and an unnamed colleague in Europe discovered a journal article, published in 1938, which contained nearly the same wording, provided a few additional clues, and the location of the museum… a museum setting that Richard Doble said looked nothing like any of the museum settings he had ever seen but then he was apparently never at Mesa Verde. Schmitt and Carey had offered the scans to a number of organizations and individuals for their opinions on the placard. Schmitt has said that the Pentagon looked at it but couldn’t make out anything on it, implying that if the government couldn’t read then surely a civilian group wouldn’t be able to do so. Well, that’s not exactly the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Here’s what we know, based on what has been said about this in various forums including this one. In Mexico City, at the May 5 presentation, Schmitt claimed that the slides had been subjected to rigorous testing by experts in the field of photography. According to the newspaper accounts from Mexico City, “Exhaustive investigations by other photographic and medical experts have concluded that the photos are genuine. The experts list presented at the Mexico City event include Dr. David Rudiak, an expert in photographic analysis, Dr. Donald Burleson, a specialist in computer enhancement; Ray Downing, materials expert from the Studio MacBeth, New York; Col Jeffrey Thau associated with the Pentagon’s Photo Interpretation Department, and Prof Rod Slemmons, a former Director of the Chicago Museum of Contemporary Photography.” CONTINUE READING: kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2015/05/the-roswell-slides-and-mummys-placard.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter Roswell Slides aftermath: Odds and Ends : www.blueblurrylines.com/2015/05/roswell-slides-aftermath-odds-and-ends.html
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Jun 1, 2015 13:00:40 GMT -6
Post by auntym on Jun 1, 2015 13:00:40 GMT -6
ufodigest.com/article/mummies-money-0601 MUMMIES, MONEY AND UFOLOGYBy Nick Pope June 1, 2015 Now that some time has passed since the unveiling of the so-called Roswell Slides, what do I – as someone who has investigated UFOs for the UK Government – think of this whole affair, and what does it tell me about the current state of ufology My only direct involvement was in my role as a journalist and broadcaster, telling the story in the mainstream media. I recognised that whatever one thought about the Roswell Slides, this was a newsworthy story and, accordingly, I liaised with the Daily Mirror (one of the UK’s national daily newspapers) and was quoted in a series of three stories that they ran on the Roswell Slides, in the run-up to the unveiling, at the time of the release, and in the immediate aftermath. These Daily Mirror stories were subsequently picked up by various other media outlets, and the story got a degree of coverage. However, the extent of mainstream media engagement was nothing like that seen with Ray Santilli’s Alien Autopsy film, or other big UFO stories, such as when I publicise the release of a new batch of the UK Government’s UFO files. And this is the first point I want to make. Despite the huge amount of information about the Roswell Slides on various UFO-related websites, forums and email lists, and on Facebook, there was comparatively little mainstream media coverage. Bottom line: this story was big news in the UFO community, but not with the wider public. The second point I want to make is that ufologists can often get so caught up in the minutiae of an issue that they find it difficult to take a step back and look at the bigger picture. Thus, while supporters and detractors of the Roswell Slides debated all sorts of minor issues, few people considered the question “If the US Government really had extraterrestrial cadavers in its possession, how would they store them”? The answer to that question, for anyone looking at the Roswell Slides, is “not like that”! Having worked for 21 years in the MoD I know a fair bit about the way in which highly classified information is handled. If the US military had acquired extraterrestrial cadavers and kept this fact secret, this would have been treated as Top Secret/Sensitive Compartmentalized Information and handled accordingly. The story being told about the Roswell Slides made no sense when viewed from an InfoSy (Information Security) perspective. This is illustrative of a wider point: sometimes it pays to set aside the search for the questions that have been already asked, and consider what other questions could usefully be asked. There was (and still is) much discussion and debate about the various individuals involved in all this, either as organisers, or as people who endorsed the slides. Did some of them know (or suspect) the truth, but say nothing? Should those involved have done better research? Was a fraud perpetrated here, and if so, who were the perpetrators and who were the victims? And what about the legal position? There has been talk of a class action lawsuit, but some questions arise from this: if there has been an offence here, would it be fraud, breach of contract, or both? Would US or Mexican law be applicable, and does the fact that many of the transactions were made online have a bearing on jurisdiction? What disclaimer was made beforehand, and what (if any) degree of legal protection does this afford? When Ray Santilli sold the media rights to use clips and stills from the Alien Autopsy footage, he did so on the basis of a very carefully-worded legal disclaimer, which had doubtless been prepared by a lawyer with experience in the entertainment industry. Did the Roswell Slides promoters do the same thing? Related to this is the issue of who said what in the aftermath of all this. Some of those involved stuck to their guns, while others stayed silent, perhaps hoping to ride out the storm. Some issued gracious-sounding apologies, while others issued carefully-worded statements attempting to distance themselves from the situation. With the legal position uncertain, it’s not clear how these various responses will play out for the individuals concerned, but for the record, I suspect that most of those who attended the Mexico City event were victims themselves. If they were guilty of anything, it was probably only of being a little too credulous, and a little too eager to be a part of something they sensed would be a big story, and good for their careers. Various reputations are currently in tatters, but time is a great healer, and it may indeed prove to be the case that some of the participants will succeed in being able to distance themselves from the situation – if not with the law, then at least with their peers and with the wider UFO community. While much may depend on the degree of involvement (actual and perceived), the extent to which their apologies are seen as sincere, and their general attitude in the aftermath of the mummy explanation being found, the number of variables involved and the uncertainties of human nature mean that it’s not currently possible to say with any degree of certainty who (certainly among the ‘supporting cast’) will fare better, and who will fare worse. For those who study ufology as opposed to UFOs, this will be very interesting to watch. If people really want to get to the bottom of all this, follow the money, not the mummy. Most of the ‘supporting cast’ probably went to Mexico City for their airfare, their hotel room and a small hoannarium and/or per diem that in all probability barely covered their bar bill. As I’ve said before, the people who you see at UFO conferences selling their own self-published and publish-on-demand books and DVDs out of a cardboard box aren’t getting rich from this. Generally speaking, it’s event organisers and film producers who harvest the ufological meme to generate serious cash, and not the ufologists. CONTINUE READING: ufodigest.com/article/mummies-money-0601
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Jul 8, 2015 13:49:15 GMT -6
Post by auntym on Jul 8, 2015 13:49:15 GMT -6
time.com/3916193/roswell-history/ How the Roswell UFO Theory Got Started Lily Rothman / time.com/author/lily-rothman/July 7, 2015 This was the first public news of the strange happenings of July 7, 1947 More Home Star Rihanna on Alien Life: ‘Anything Is Possible’ This Alien Might Exist on One of Saturn’s Moons, Scientists Say Odds are, if you’re familiar with the city of Roswell, N.M., you’re familiar with what happened there on this day, July 7, in 1947: a rancher named W.W. Brazel told Sheriff George Wilcox that he had found something strange on a sheep ranch northwest of the town. After finding bits of rubber, wood, foil, tape and paper in the field, the Sheriff called the local Army air field, which sent Major Jesse Marcel, an intelligence officer, to check it out. Marcel was convinced that Brazel stumbled upon nothing less than the remains of a flying saucer. He told his group commander, who told the press officer on duty, Walter Haut, who sent out a press release. The next day the Roswell Daily Record bore a headline—”RAAF CAPTURES FLYING SAUCER ON RANCH IN ROSWELL REGION”—that instantly turned the town into the nation’s UFO capital. But there’s a big hitch in that oft-told tale. As TIME reported in an investigation on the 50th anniversary of the incident, the same day that the Daily Record ran the sensational story, it was determined that the litter was from a destroyed weather balloon. The paper printed a follow-up retraction the next day, and Brazel stated that he was embarrassed to have gotten so worked up over nothing. That should have been that. But not everyone bought the official explanation, as TIME explained in 1997: CONTINUE READING: time.com/3916193/roswell-history/ TO READ THE TIME VAULT COVER STORY YOU WILL NEED TO SIGN UP & SIGN IN: Read the 1997 cover story about Roswell, here in the TIME Vault: The Roswell Files: time.com/vault/issue/1997-06-23/page/1/
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Nov 20, 2015 13:33:25 GMT -6
Post by auntym on Nov 20, 2015 13:33:25 GMT -6
krqe.com/2015/11/12/rock-legend-visits-new-mexico/ ROSWELL, N.M. (KRQE) – A very famous visitor has one New Mexico city buzzing.By Cheyenne Cope / krqe.com/author/cheyenne-cope/Published: November 12, 2015 Rock and roll and reality TV star Ozzy Osbourne has been spotted around Roswell the past few days. He’s even letting the locals snap pictures with him. Osbourne was at the International UFO Museum Thursday because he’s doing a shoot with his son jack for the history channel. There are not a lot of details, but the word is that it has something to do with the Roswell UFO incident, but that hasn’t stopped Roswell residents from getting word of the celebrity’s visit to town. “Not a lot of famous people come to Roswell, of course, but you know when they do it’s a nice little town for famous people to come and enjoy,” Jeremy Palma, Roswell resident. “It’s pretty awesome for someone to come here to this little town and have some appreciation for it, you know the aliens,” said Ernesto Peralta, Roswell resident. People have been spotting Ozzy around town, some claiming they saw him at Wal-Mart. He stopped by Chili’s last night and snapped a picture with the locals. The photo been spreading across social media in Roswell. Although he’s been staying pretty low key, he certainly has some fans around town who are hoping to meet the former Black Sabbath front man. “Hopefully we get his autograph,” said Petra Gonzales, Roswell resident. “He ought to give a concert and play some music out here ya know,” said Larry Flores, who is a big Ozzy fan. It’s unclear how long Osbourne will be here in town or when this history channel project will air.
WATCH VIDEO: krqe.com/2015/11/12/rock-legend-visits-new-mexico/
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Jan 7, 2016 15:12:51 GMT -6
Post by auntym on Jan 7, 2016 15:12:51 GMT -6
Leaked: RAW Roswell Alien Footage Released By New Zealand Magazine Stargazers Nation™Published on Feb 1, 2015 Experts have debated and unanimously Credited this footage as 100% real footage, Published by credited magazine "Uncensored" uncensored.co.nz/
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Mar 24, 2016 22:32:39 GMT -6
Post by auntym on Mar 24, 2016 22:32:39 GMT -6
www.openminds.tv/roswell-museum-ufo-destroyed-by-vandals/36676 Roswell museum UFO destroyed by vandalsPosted by: Alejandro Rojas March 24, 2016 According to police, a large disc-shaped UFO was stolen from the International UFO Museum and Research Center in Roswell, New Mexico Saturday morning. After missing for several days, it was then found broken into pieces in a ditch on the side of a highway 2 miles outside of town. Although the theft was caught on a surveillance camera, the perpetrators of the crime are still at large. The arrow points to the flying saucer UFO stolen on Saturday. (Credit: Wikimedia Commons/KOB) The large UFO is usually mounted on the corner of the building housing the museum. However, it was being stored in the back when it was taken. It had fallen off the building during a winter storm and had been fixed. The museum had plans to remount the UFO. On March 21, the Roswell Police Department posted the news of the theft of the UFO on their Facebook page. They reported that the UFO had been stolen just before 3:30 am on Saturday, March 19. Yesterday, the Roswell Police Department reported that the UFO had been found in pieces off of Highway 70 outside of town. They also posted security camera footage of three men placing the disc in their truck.WATCH VIDEO & CONTINUE READING: www.openminds.tv/roswell-museum-ufo-destroyed-by-vandals/36676
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Post by skywalker on Mar 25, 2016 17:44:33 GMT -6
What kind of an idiot would abduct a UFO and then destroy it? This is about the dumbest crime I've ever heard of.
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Post by auntym on Mar 29, 2016 14:41:13 GMT -6
krqe.com/2016/03/28/teen-arrested-in-connection-to-stolen-ufo-in-roswell/ Teen arrested in connection to stolen UFO in RoswellBy Cheyenne Cope March 28, 2016, ROSWELL, N.M. (KRQE) – Police have made an arrest in the case of the flying saucer stolen from Roswell’s International UFO museum last week. They also say they are still looking for the two other suspects. Police say they were able to track down one of the thieves because of a phone call. The flying saucer that used to hang on the side of the museum was stolen while being stored behind the museum for repairs. The museum’s security camera caught three people loading the spaceship into the bed of a red pickup and taking off. Now, Roswell police have made an arrest. “On Saturday morning, we arrested a 17-year-old boy who was one of the three suspects in the theft of the spaceship,” said Todd Wildermuth, Roswell Police spokesman. Police are not releasing the name of the teen arrested since he is still a juvenile, but say they are still looking for the other two people in the video. “If people have information about that, we want them to call so we can go after these other two as well,” said Wildermuth. The spaceship was found last week; it was found smashed into pieces just outside of town. A lot of people visiting the museum on Monday had already heard about the stolen saucer. “I was kind of bummed out that they did it. Kids will be kids but if you found something like that I can’t see any reason to destroy it,” said Benny Urban, who was visiting Roswell on spring break with his kids. Some museum visitors say they are happy to hear someone has been arrested. “It think it’s great that they found somebody and hopefully, you know, they’ll take corrective action and I hope they find the other person and it can be put back the way it was,” said Jan Gallo. Police say that the teen isn’t saying what the motive was for stealing the spaceship or who else was involved. The museum is planning on getting a new saucer, but they are not sure yet when they will have it up or how much it will cost. WATCH VIDEO: krqe.com/2016/03/28/teen-arrested-in-connection-to-stolen-ufo-in-roswell/
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mysteriousuniverse.org/2017/04/the-mysterious-roswell-rock-resurfaces/The Mysterious Roswell Rock Resurfaces April 11, 2017 by Paul Seaburn / mysteriousuniverse.org/author/paulseaburn/What is the Roswell Rock? On the surface, it’s a small rock allegedly found near Roswell, New Mexico, in 2004 with a strange carving that mysteriously comes close to matching a crop circle found in England in 1996, and also has some interesting magnetic properties. Scratch the surface and … oh, wait, you can’t do that – it’s the Roswell Rock! However, you CAN speculate periodically and 2017 is one of those speculation years with a new video bringing up the old story and hinting of an explanation. Will the origin of the Roswell Rock finally and definitively be revealed? Place your wager now. “Definitively” is the key word here since there have been a number of attempts to explain it, recreate it and, of course, link it to the famous Roswell site and aliens in general. The story of the rock begins in September 2004 with Robert Ridge, a deer hunter who claimed to have found the rock partially sticking out of the ground “near” the alleged crash site … “near” being miles away but still close enough to be categorized as being in Roswell. Pictures were apparently posted on an Internet message board (this was pre Twitter and Facebook) along with the added info that the rock had magnetic properties … a magnet placed nearby caused it to spin. Many saw the similarities between the rock’s carving and a crop circle that appeared at Liddington Castle, Chiseldon, Swindon, England, on August 2, 1996. This caught the attention of Coast to Coast AM which did a story on it in 2008. It also caught the attention of stone carvers, sandblasters and polishers who attempted to duplicate the looks of the rock with good success, including the surface shine. The design was relatively easy to blast out of various rocks, making the 1996 crop circle more likely to have been made by humans (verified by some crop circle experts) than aliens (expressed by other crop circle experts). The magnetic properties suggested the original rock was a lodestone – the original natural magnet used in early compasses — or a ferrous rock or some other Earth rock with magnetic properties. Original Roswell Rock on the leftHowever, what should have closed the case was the Roswell Alien Encounter Festival 98. It was reported that a vendor (possibly MLennuim (sp) Productions) was selling rocks with crop circle designs on them. The Liddington Castle vircle was well known by that time and could easily have made it onto some of the rocks, potentially even magnetic ones. Same city, same rocks, same design … those dots are fairly close. But of course, like all things Roswell, the case was still open. In 2014, Giorgio Tsoukalos showed up with the show Ancient Aliens and actually examines the rock, talks to Ridge and goes to the location where the rock allegedly had “skipped” in order to travel so far from the original alleged UFO crash site. A CT scan proved it was a rock and had no magnet inside, but didn’t seem to address the lodestone possibility. Even though these dots seem much further apart than the Festival ’98 theory, the conclusion was “Aliens!” That brings us to the latest video. Unfortunately (unless you wagered that no new information would be presented), no new information is presented. It appears that the “original” Roswell Rock is still in the possession of Robert Ridge, who undoubtedly will be happy that he’s back in the news for another 15 minutes. Perhaps that’s the real power of the rock. mysteriousuniverse.org/2017/04/the-mysterious-roswell-rock-resurfaces/
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Post by swamprat on Apr 13, 2017 15:11:27 GMT -6
New Development? Black Triangle Sighting (Crash) in Roswell, New Mexico on July 7, 1947 Sighting Basics Case Number 83112 Date of the Sighting 1947-07-07 00:00 Date Submitted 2017-04-12 (Reported 70 Years Later) Time Zone America/Denver Source MUFON Summary Wayne Schell with POTUS Tags crash
Sighting Location City Roswell Region New Mexico Coutntry US Postal Code 46062
Sighting Details My uncle was personal bodyguard to Harry S. Truman in 1947. They both went to Roswell at insistence of POTUS Truman in July 1947, after sneaking out of White House disguised as press. My uncle said they met a Major Easley at crash site. Major Easley promised the president that nothing from the crash would remain.
www.mufon.com/live-ufo-map.htmlAnd...... ROSWELL UFO: Truman's secret crash site debrief, his body double, and the 'cover-up'PRESIDENT Harry Truman visited the site of an alleged flying saucer crash in Roswell, New Mexico, to ensure that the "incident" was covered up from the world. it has shockingly been claimed.By Jon Austin PUBLISHED: Thu, Apr 13, 2017
UFO investigators are looking at claims that President Truman and his personal bodyguard secretly visited the scene in July 1947, and were promised by a leading military official that there would be no trace left of the crash.
The Roswell myth has been at the heart of the UFO scene since in July 1947 the military sensationally announced in a press release it had found the remains of a crashed flying saucer in the desert nearby.
But the following day it retracted the statement, saying it was in fact a damaged US Air Force air balloon.
Witnesses later came forward to say there had been alien bodies within the "crashed craft", which along with the wreckage were then taken to the mysterious top-secret Area 51 military base in Nevada.
The conspiracy theories surrounding the events remain today.
The allegations were yesterday made to the US-based Mutual UFO Network (MUFON), which keeps a global database of alleged UFO and alien sightings.
It carries out investigations into some of the reports it receives.
In the report to MUFON an unnamed source said: "My Uncle was personal bodyguard to Harry S Truman in 1947.
"They both went to Roswell at the insistence of President Truman in July 1947 after sneaking out of White House disguised as press.
"My uncle said they met a Major Easley at crash site.
"Major Easley promised the President that nothing from the crash would remain."
Express.co.uk discovered a man has made similar claims on Facebook.
William Sells, from Noblesville, Indiana, whose profile says he is a retired "specialist" at the National Security Agency (NSA), said his uncle Wayne Schell had been personal bodyguard to President Truman, and had told him in the 1960s about the secret operation, which involved the use of a "double" of President Truman.
Mr Sells says he also previously held a "top-secret SI crypto clearance from the NSA."
He posted: "Harry and him left the White House in disguise to the crash site after Truman saw debris at Andrews Air Force Base (in Prince George's County, Maryland).
"The secret service instituted Operation Doppelganger and provided Harry Truman's double to make sure the press was unaware of Harry's real location.
"At first I did not believe him (Mr Schell) until we opened his military footlocker in his bedroom after his death around 1969.
"In there were letters from FDR and Truman along with glossy photos of the Yalta Conference with Churchill, Stalin and FDR."
He said his uncle lived in Middletown, Indiana, and ran a dairy farm after his secret service work.
He added: "He told me that Roswell was extraterrestrial and that the military swept the site.
"They met a Major named Edward Easley at the site and he promised Truman that nothing would remain and nothing would be said."
Express.co.uk could find no other record of a Wayne Schell linked to President Truman.
It is well documented, and among UFO circles, that Major Edwin Easley was the provost marshal at the Roswell Army Air Field at the time of the alleged crash and that he was responsible for base security.
Conspiracy theorists claim that dead aliens were found in the wreckage of the alleged crashed flying saucer but they were secretly hidden at a US air force base.
www.express.co.uk/news/weird/791691/President-Harry-Truman-Roswell-UFO-Wayne-Schell-William-Sells
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Post by auntym on Jun 19, 2017 13:12:18 GMT -6
mysteriousuniverse.org/2017/06/why-didnt-the-aliens-recover-the-roswell-wreckage/Why Didn’t “The Aliens” Recover The Roswell Wreckage?by Nick Redfern / mysteriousuniverse.org/author/nredfern/June 19, 2017 As a kind of follow-up to my previous article on the new and highly dubious Majestic 12 documents and the Roswell affair, I thought I would share with you something that we should all ponder on. It’s a very important issue that few people ever think about when it comes to the crash of the whatever-it-was that came down on the Foster Ranch, Lincoln County, New Mexico in July 1947. It is, however, an issue that gets right to the very heart of the incident and the matter of what did or did not happen. It goes like this… If the debris – and possibly bodies and a somewhat intact craft – recovered outside of Roswell, New Mexico in the summer of 1947 had extra-terrestrial origins, then why did the aliens’ comrades fail to attempt to recover the priceless materials before elements of the U.S. military appeared on the scene? Why did they let it fall into our hands? They are questions that certainly should be addressed. After all, even a cursory study of UFO history reveals that aliens (particularly so in “alien abduction” cases) are supposedly able to walk through walls and doors. They reportedly abduct people against their will and then return them to their homes without being caught in the act. They steal and / or mutilate cattle right under the noses of outraged farmers, and they traverse the universe with ease. They are even said to have snatched military and private aircraft in flight – planes and crews that have never been seen again. The 1953 affair of Karl Hunrath and Wilbur Wilkinson, and the 1978 incident involving Frederick Valentich, are perfect examples. So, in light of all their incredible and unearthly skills, why weren’t the assumed aliens able to scoop up a few bodies and a bunch of scattered debris from an isolated ranch in New Mexico? After all, it’s hardly as if everything took place in Times Square with thousands of amazed onlookers crowding around. This thought-provoking issue has also been addressed by Canadian film-maker Paul Kimball, who says the following: “…surely they would have moved to recover any crashed excursion module as quickly as possible, a process which, considering the advanced technology that the aliens must possess in order to get ‘here’ from ‘there’ is something that they would have accomplished before Mack Brazel discovered the debris field and then alerted the military, even if that involved simply disintegrating the debris field so as to leave no trace behind of the crash.” CONTINUE READING: mysteriousuniverse.org/2017/06/why-didnt-the-aliens-recover-the-roswell-wreckage/
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Post by skywalker on Jun 19, 2017 18:51:28 GMT -6
Do humans recover the bodies and debris from every plane, ship and car that crashes anywhere on the planet? Nope. Some of the stuff is just left lying there for the rest of eternity. Why would an alien race gazillions of light-years from us behave any differently? And how do we even know they knew about the crash? Or that they didn't try to recover the stuff? It may take them a hundred years to get here for all we know. There are all kinds of possibilities. Jumping to the conclusion that aliens don't exist because they didn't recover the Roswell debris is kind of premature don't you think? Personally, I think if they really wanted the stuff back they would have gotten it. Probably not much value in a crashed spaceship that's scattered all over the horizon.
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Post by jcurio on Jun 20, 2017 12:15:31 GMT -6
Or, just as "obviously"......
THEY DO want us to know that "they" are more than imaginary, or that "they" are MORE than something that only people with "open minds", or PSI skills can see.
I think plenty of people have said, that especially in the cases of "mutilated cattle" left behind, and done right under the noses of ranchers, that "they" are leaving a particular message.
I think the standard answer is that "they" are emotionless. Don't care. Why it suits them to handle "their messes" sometimes, is the bigger question (IMO).
I think that as PEOPLE discover things in the present and near future, they will talk about it, and then their evidence will "magically" disappear. More so than before. I think it is a matter of "mercy and grace" by SOMEONE bigger and better than "them", that we don't all have memory erasure going back many years (with drastic results to our brains in the meantime).
Why has "someone's" (else) been on a somewhat frantic road to misrepresenting human history of this planet? Am I supposed to think that history has inexplicably changed because someone decided to alter it? Huh? Was that an intention followed through BEFORE? Was there that intention or were there other factors involved?
Are we "smarter" because that is how all Earth life eventually progresses? Are some of us fighting to be "smarter" while others are succumbing to a "dumming-down"? Even bigger question, is someone trying to decide who they want to "become smarter"?
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Post by swamprat on Jun 22, 2018 16:29:18 GMT -6
Ran across this on Facebook today.....Frank Kimbler 20 hrs • I don't have a huge following on Facebook, so spread the word to everyone, I could use the help and the support. Bureau of Land Management office Monday morning 10:15. The BLM may try to confiscate fragments from the Rowell UFO crash site. I'm one test away from proving that Rowell is ET. The government does not want that to happen.
Frank Kimbler 10 hrs • Here is an example of the Roswell crash site artifacts the BLM is trying to confiscate this coming Monday morning at 10:15 AM at their district office in Roswell. It was legally collected according to a BLM pamphlet distributed on several BLM sites. Google this "Collecting on Public Lands - Bureau of Land Management ", and read it. The crash site is not a historically protected site and it says that in their Resource Planning document for the BLM Roswell District. Also notice what the document specifically says "of Human origin" Now I have some proof that indicates this material may be of ET origin. I'm one scientific test away from a potential historical event, proving Roswell was really ET and not a weather balloon:
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Post by auntym on Aug 15, 2018 12:44:59 GMT -6
mysteriousuniverse.org/2018/08/more-on-the-no-ufo-crash-at-roswell-saga/More on the “No UFO Crash” at Roswell Sagaby Nick Redfern / mysteriousuniverse.org/author/nredfern/August 16, 2018 My previous article here at MU was titled “Roswell, UFOs, and ‘Worrisome’ Words.” It started as follows. QUOTE: “Kevin Randle has a new article online right now. Its title is ‘The Decline of Roswell.’ It’s on the matter of who, within the U.S. military, should have been briefed on what happened outside of Roswell, New Mexico in the summer of 1947, if indeed a UFO had crashed there. Kevin states that the late ufologist Karl Pflock discovered a ‘…document that reported on the Scientific Advisory Board Conference held on March 17 – 18, 1948, in the Pentagon. Colonel Howard McCoy was discussing Project Sign, the number of reports they had received, suggesting that there was something important going on. He said, ‘I can’t tell you how much we would give to have one of those crash in an area so that we could recover whatever they are.’ “Given that Colonel McCoy was the intelligence-officer at the Air Materiel Command and to Wright Field, Ohio (the very place where, supposedly, dead aliens from the Roswell site were secretly taken), then he should have known about – and he should have been briefed on – the crash of a UFO. McCoy’s words, though, suggest he knew zero about a UFO crash – anywhere.” END OF QUOTE. There is a lively debate going on at Kevin’s blog right now, on this very issue. One of those who commented on Kevin’s words used the alias of “Starman.” He suggests that McCoy may have chosen to state there had not been a single UFO crash as a specific means to “kill” any and all lingering whispers of Roswell. To keep it all under wraps, in other words. The problem with Starman’s theory is this: when the 1940s-era documentation was prepared, there was not even a single thought that, one day, the same documentation would ever enter the public domain – and for one and all to see – and thanks to the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act. If McCoy’s words had been directed at the public or the media, then a good case could be made to the effect that words along the lines of “We have no crashed flying saucers” really were designed to crush any talk of Roswell. It would be a great way to bring the rumors of crashed UFOs to a halt. But, McCoy’s words weren’t directed to the public or the media. They were directed to McCoy’s fellow colleagues in the military; high-ranking people who would have clearly known about a crashed saucer; just like McCoy would have. Indeed, as Kevin himself notes in his article on this very issue: “Here’s where we stand on this. The documentation that does exist, that came from identified government sources, signed by the men involved who we are able to vet, suggest that they know nothing of crash recovered debris. Being who they were and what their jobs were, they would have known [italics mine] and the discussion would take a different track.” For those in the UFO research community who believe that aliens crashed outside of Roswell (and which, I would suggest, is an extremely sizeable percentage of that same community) this is a big problem. A massive one, in fact. The McCoy documentation makes a convincing argument that flying saucers had not crashed. Anywhere. If ufologists are willing to work with their heads, rather than with their hearts, they might just realize that something really significant did happen relatively near Roswell, New Mexico in the summer of 1947. But, which had nothing to do with alien saucers. Of course, if further damning documentation (whether concerning McCoy or one or more of his colleagues) appears, then we may see a welcome and refreshing eroding of the ET theory for Roswell and the growth of something arguably more disturbing. Namely, revelations concerning a controversial experiment of ours, and not an extraterrestrial incident. Should such a thing happen, I predict that Ufology will unravel quickly. Incredibly quickly. Shock will set in. The shakily-spoken words “it can’t be” will be uttered throughout Ufology. Urine will uncontrollably flow. Then there are the spin-offs. If there are no crashed UFOs, then there are no dead aliens (whether at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, at Area 51, or at the Dugway Proving Ground). No back-engineering of UFO technology. No alien autopsies. In rapid time, all of these cornerstones of Ufology may quickly crumble. And to the point where they disintegrate. Should all of that happen – and if Roswell collapses as a UFO event – I hope that Ufology will continue to realize there are still some genuinely baffling cases out there. And that, even without Roswell, there are good encounters to solve. But, taking into consideration just how much of a massive presence and influence Roswell has in this field, I honestly don’t think that Ufology – as it is today – can survive without the cursed case. That, however, is the collective fault of numerous ufologists, all eager to turn a genuine mystery into a tale of a crashed UFO – and championing that tale as often as possible. mysteriousuniverse.org/2018/08/more-on-the-no-ufo-crash-at-roswell-saga/
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