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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2015 19:32:41 GMT -6
Another poster here, talked about how her dreams became more intense, after trying a new med. And seriously, this could be any medication. I've even taken a so-called vitamin before that made me a little "loopy" (not in a good way ). A guy that came on here in the last 6 mo., "Black Dog" states that he used to work at a "mental health facility". I believe that our friend Charles did also. I know there is privacy concerns, as their should be, but i'm sure that they've seen their share of "cases" were a person maybe didn't really need the med. they were given, or the amount. IDK. Maybe some people want to have less psy, if that is one of the results of taking even something for mild insomnia.
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Post by harmony on Feb 10, 2015 19:16:20 GMT -6
For me, my dreams make a little more sense now and during the day, the lights don't seem to flicker or get brighter and dimmer which was quite annoying. Also, it seems like my thoughts and words are more structured, make better sense (to me anyway!) and I feel like everything is more organized now. As far as psy?? Nope. I don't really experience ESP or spirits or angels or that creepy feeling I used to get after watching a scary movie... I just don't have heightened awareness anymore and to be perfectly honest...I don't miss it AT ALL I feel like I'm in a good place and my relationships with my husband and children seem to be better without mama saying off the wall stuff that came from outta nowhere. I had unrealistic fears of wars and terrorism and CIA and spies and I could go on all night but just know mental illness is better off being treated. In my opinion, anyway
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2015 10:07:58 GMT -6
You can call it "mental illness" if you want to . (and thanks for your response! ) Part of my point is, HBP (high blood pressure) in some people can be considered a 'mental illness' when there is no physiology (physical markers). I'm not a Dr., so I just hope that I'm making some sense. IF I was a Dr., at this point I might start talking about "placebo effect" , which medications its been tried on, etc. I would also say that some meds make me feel like I am possibly more socially acceptable, in general . Possibly, a side affect of some meds may actually make me feel more comfortable in my own skin, for however that is done, and I give off a "better vibe" . Confidence in myself, less distracted thinking, able to pause and wait for other "signals" to move, other than my "irges" (my misspelling ) causing me to react prematurely. Both in thinking (and speaking out loud this thinking), and body movements. I am talking about myself . And I purposely use the word, feeling. I can remember thinking there was something wrong with me. I still have an awareness that something is "wrong" with me, even after possibly feeling better after being on a medication. Again, an example, does a HBP med., when it does what its supposed to do, make a patient feel better, physically and mentally? I really don't know. My dad forgets to take his half the time, but did he even feel his blood pressure up when his doctor began to detect it up, a consideral part of the time? Again, IDK. My dads (my example) blood pressure ran really low for years; like mine does now. When my BP is up, that rare occasion, I know it. Again, another example in my own family, my sis has had great BP. She's a nurse, and the other day at work, because of her physical appearance (go ahead and assume coloring), another nurse suggested she take her BP, and wa-lah! It was high. I'm not kidding. My sis appears to be someone that would be a great apartment building super, or the like. Moves calmly, doesn't get excited, thinks things through (as a super smart person does-rather incredibly quickly), but gives out the impression that she's not even listening. Its my understanding that she is a very good nurse . Anyway . . . I move much quicker, talk much faster, than her, but my 'speed' can socially drive people nuts, as can her perceived "slowness". She doesn't take any meds. I am not the only person who thinks of her as "slow" (and she is not). My dreams are now shortened. skip around between subjects in one single night, etc. When I'm having a "normal" dream process, I can tell that I'm taking subject matter from my past couple of waking days, and working on it in my sleep; just as some studies have suggested that we use dream time for, for real. Just like anyone else, I have other snippets of dreams, or long dreams, that make no sense at all. I'm struggling here, sorry! to explain how my thinking process in my head seems the same (as before the med), but yet I know there's a difference somewhere . I can recall wishing that I didn't have a (sometimes super odd, obnoxious) "sixth sense". what is it for, anyway? It's still there, but now I make an effort to ignore it? And somehow, not talking about it very often, was I hoping it would just go away? I guess what I'm experiencing is a "bleed-through". Time to 'up the meds'? This is me. I'm not recommending that everyone question their meds! Really! I just think that there's too much of a "one size fits all", in whatever time era we are living in. Another one of my 'issues'. if I'm noticing advanced technology, and expecting more for myself, my body needs to have more "technical" things about. I'm guessing that I secretly wish I was some sort of cyborg
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Post by harmony on Feb 13, 2015 20:47:21 GMT -6
It actually took them a lot of time and effort and switching meds to get mine right. For some reason antidepressants make me depressed. I also have Pernicious anemia which requires B-12 shots. Long story short I'm tired of talking about myself. As far as HBP meds, the people I know that take them say they make them feel really tired when they first go on them and other than that they can't tell that it makes a difference.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2015 21:01:10 GMT -6
(I have anemia, also. The kind where I have trouble 'absorbing' iron. )
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Post by harmony on Feb 16, 2015 21:33:19 GMT -6
So I was just thinking while listening to the sleet fall.... When my mama had her stroke, the paramedic asked her her full name and she said Janice Elizabethian something. Her middle name was Lynn. Well, now my son and his girlfriend are having a baby and she picked the name. Her middle name will be Elizabeth. Now, my son was 10 and had no knowledge of what she said. How can this be? Am I the only one who thinks this is strange? Or Ironic? Does anyone believe in coincidences? Thoughts?
jcurio, sorry that you deal with anemia too
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Post by lois on Feb 16, 2015 22:07:33 GMT -6
So I was just thinking while listening to the sleet fall.... When my mama had her stroke, the paramedic asked her her full name and she said Janice Elizabethian something. Her middle name was Lynn. Well, now my son and his girlfriend are having a baby and she picked the name. Her middle name will be Elizabeth. Now, my son was 10 and had no knowledge of what she said. How can this be? Am I the only one who thinks this is strange? Or Ironic? Does anyone believe in coincidences? Thoughts? jcurio, sorry that you deal with anemia too Harmony.. do you have any ancestors with that name? Just a thought . Once I read where scientist are studding how thought's can be inherited. I figured it was too far out and paid no attention to it.. Auntym has a reincarnation thread on here right now. I do dream a dream over and over with a 19 century setting. I do the same thing in the dream every time I dream this dream. There is three dreams like that . that recurr I'm always back in time
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Post by lois on Feb 16, 2015 22:14:11 GMT -6
(I have anemia, also. The kind where I have trouble 'absorbing' iron. ) Sorry to hear that jc. I have a friend who took iron but never helped so she got blood transfusions every few months. She is still doing it today
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Post by skywalker on Feb 17, 2015 11:18:02 GMT -6
So I was just thinking while listening to the sleet fall.... When my mama had her stroke, the paramedic asked her her full name and she said Janice Elizabethian something. Her middle name was Lynn. Well, now my son and his girlfriend are having a baby and she picked the name. Her middle name will be Elizabeth. Now, my son was 10 and had no knowledge of what she said. How can this be? Am I the only one who thinks this is strange? Or Ironic? Does anyone believe in coincidences? Thoughts? jcurio, sorry that you deal with anemia too There are all sorts of weird coincidences that go on for whatever reason. Most people just ignore them most of the time without ever wondering why they happen. Nobody knows why they do but they do. A long time ago when I was in high school I was talking to a friend about what we would name our children if we ever had any. I decided that if I had a daughter I would want her named Jennifer Michelle. It sounded like a good name. Imagine my surprise when a few years later my older brother had a little baby girl and they decided to name her...Jennifer Michelle. What are the odds? Now if I ever have kids I will have to choose a new name.
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Post by paulette on Feb 17, 2015 11:38:36 GMT -6
I named my kids J. Anne ...., and A. James....
I named my son middle name after his father's middle name and my daughter middle name after my mother's middle name. OK ...acknowledgement to family completed.
I later found out that my husband's firstborn son (with someone else) had the middle James and his second born (to the same someone else) had the same middle name. (I didn't know and he was vague about their middle names.) So - both sets of kids ended up with the same middle names.
His ex was choked! She thought I was making a point. I was not - but I was not about to formally change their names due to her displeasure either. Interestingly, my daughter really likes her middle name and uses it daily in her signature.
I don't know if any of this means anything. But its kinda cool.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2015 12:16:29 GMT -6
I wonder sometimes about the brain altering meds. I'm so opposed to the amount of meds given to children in school. Do you suppose we are as we are meant to be? Developed as we should have with some quirks that make us individual or give us some skills others don't have? I'm not talking about schizophrenic drugs..although one of our Nobel Peace Prize winners WAS a schizophrenic who took himself off of the suppressing meds and schooled himself to know what was real and what was not. His reasoning was that he could not function as he needed to..while on the drugs..they suppressed too much of what make him who he was. During his acceptance dinner..he pointed out the empty table 'reserved' for the people no one else could see who came to celebrate with him. He adapted. The movie about him made me cry. So I always wonder in general now..how much those drugs are taking away..verses..the benefits. I've never taken any of them but my neighbors mother..has medication to slow the progress of Alzheimers. She wouldn't take it because she couldn't stand the way it made her mind feel. Mind you she is 82 and it's just starting so maybe that's one 'benefit' that she could live without more easily than with.
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Post by harmony on Feb 17, 2015 18:49:30 GMT -6
Mind altering drugs do just that. I feel better on them but I can tell it has dampened my creativity among other things...another weird thing happened yesterday but I don't really believe in coincidences, Skywalker... I was at Bi-Lo ready to check out and realized I had forgotten to get flour to make cubed steak. I sent my 14 year old daughter to get some and told her any kind as long as it was self-rising. She brought back Yelton's best that my mama always used. I usually get White Lily. A little hello from my mama from beyond? I think so
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2015 13:00:12 GMT -6
I wonder sometimes about the brain altering meds. I'm so opposed to the amount of meds given to children in school. Do you suppose we are as we are meant to be? Developed as we should have with some quirks that make us individual or give us some skills others don't have? I'm not talking about schizophrenic drugs..although one of our Nobel Peace Prize winners WAS a schizophrenic who took himself off of the suppressing meds and schooled himself to know what was real and what was not. His reasoning was that he could not function as he needed to..while on the drugs..they suppressed too much of what make him who he was. During his acceptance dinner..he pointed out the empty table 'reserved' for the people no one else could see who came to celebrate with him. He adapted. The movie about him made me cry. So I always wonder in general now..how much those drugs are taking away..verses..the benefits. I've never taken any of them but my neighbors mother..has medication to slow the progress of Alzheimers. She wouldn't take it because she couldn't stand the way it made her mind feel. Mind you she is 82 and it's just starting so maybe that's one 'benefit' that she could live without more easily than with. Thank you, Jo . I talk so much that I often lose my point of thought these days. I know I would have enjoyed middle school and high school a lot more if I had been medicated then, there's no doubt in my mind about that. But we're talking enjoyment. I would have not had my photographic memory and study recall, that gave me my "edge". But did lack of "enjoyment" corrupt my motivation? A lot of "what ifs"; not just for me . I think if we all had the time to be more patient (ha) we'd be more considerate of what is "socially acceptable". I've heard a lot, with all kinds of people, about the issue of repetitive thoughts. It is a component in a lot more than just OCD, obviously. My personal question is , if you take away repetitive thoughts (seen as unnecessary or negative), how is the natural memory not affected?? And, back to my point earlier ( ), I'm very much a "feeling" (not always "touchy-feely") person. That is an integral part of my having psy. Without the touching, this is integral to my preferred setting of open spaces, either indoors or out, so I can get a "feel" of everything around me. A type of telepathy related to feelings, perhaps. If you take away my feelings, including my example of my being sensitive to "feeling" my own blood pressure up, I'm at a disadvantage.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2015 13:39:56 GMT -6
Mind altering drugs do just that. I feel better on them but I can tell it has dampened my creativity among other things...another weird thing happened yesterday but I don't really believe in coincidences, Skywalker... I was at Bi-Lo ready to check out and realized I had forgotten to get flour to make cubed steak. I sent my 14 year old daughter to get some and told her any kind as long as it was self-rising. She brought back Yelton's best that my mama always used. I usually get White Lily. A little hello from my mama from beyond? I think so So, I guess I'm one that doesn't feel better on them. And for the sake of argument, I would venture to say that all meds are "mind-altering drugs". Maybe "brain-altering drugs" is more proper. Doesn't the 'brain' tell your body what to do? And, if you read the fine print on almost any med., there seems to always be an "adjustment period", or definite warning signs about tolerance. On vitamins, too. When did it first begin to be openly discussed that antibiotics tend to make some people experience mild (or worse) depression? Why would fighting a bacteria take a toll on your mind? Wouldn't just being sick and tired, be enough? Benefits of a placebo/other illness causing, vs. the body's ability to heal itself, with mild help from plants, etc. at times. We are living and breathing greatly among artificial things. So it takes artificial means to try and restore some balance. It sounds like an entirely different subject (but really its not ). Edgar Cayce and others like him, impress me most with their "cures".
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2015 13:56:10 GMT -6
Gosh Lois that's terrifying. I know how you felt... when my daughter was just a few months old I had an episode of sleep paralysis and had this feeling that someone or something was standing over her crib... and I couldn't do anything about it!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2015 13:57:07 GMT -6
Harmonie, thanks for sharing your story. I always wondered about why you were here but I didn't want to push the issue.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2015 14:02:53 GMT -6
I wonder sometimes about the brain altering meds. I'm so opposed to the amount of meds given to children in school. Do you suppose we are as we are meant to be? Developed as we should have with some quirks that make us individual or give us some skills others don't have? I'm not talking about schizophrenic drugs..although one of our Nobel Peace Prize winners WAS a schizophrenic who took himself off of the suppressing meds and schooled himself to know what was real and what was not. His reasoning was that he could not function as he needed to..while on the drugs..they suppressed too much of what make him who he was. During his acceptance dinner..he pointed out the empty table 'reserved' for the people no one else could see who came to celebrate with him. He adapted. The movie about him made me cry. So I always wonder in general now..how much those drugs are taking away..verses..the benefits. I've never taken any of them but my neighbors mother..has medication to slow the progress of Alzheimers. She wouldn't take it because she couldn't stand the way it made her mind feel. Mind you she is 82 and it's just starting so maybe that's one 'benefit' that she could live without more easily than with. People with Aspergers syndrome often come up with amazing ideas that change the world. People like Albert Einstein, Mozart, Beethoven, and even Alfred Hitchcock. Now they are thinking about classifying Aspergers as a "personality disorder" instead of classifying it as "autism" and giving psych meds to "treat" it. I feel sorry for future generations who will no longer be revolutionized by Aspergers...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2015 14:08:18 GMT -6
Was Edgar Cayce "mentally ill"? My goodness! How did he ever become so accepted?! Timing, coincidence? Recently I saw a documentary on Pres. Roosevelt. Maybe it was common knowledge that his brother was "mentally ill". It is said that he was fine, but as a youth he started having some bad headaches, and then went downhill from there. Was he exposed to something that he was sensitive to? and then the turmoil about forms of Autism and such. "Symptoms" showing up after thinking your child was "normal"? Some people seem "normal" one day, and then the next day present with 'old-age dementia', and no one saw them have a stroke, etc. The subject intrigues me; nevermind all the 'important' people who live with mental ilness "quirks". This Fall in Kansas City, Mo. and elsewhere, a virus presented itself as a flu, and then some youngsters woke up one day with symptoms of polio (but its not polio). I barely heard about this. We've heard about shortages of beds for patients, and the institutions where people were abused is just a thing of the past, right? Since we are becoming "geared" to be dependant on meds, would I be even more "mentally ill" if I could no longer use my meds? (because of cost; etc.). Aaaaargh. ______________________________________________________________________ Lois, taking iron by mouth did not help me, and my doctor was kind enough to tell me (to save me the expense). I do have blood work before and after to prove this. I have had (2) complete iron infusions since last October, and have discontinued eating dairy products at the same time as eating things like steak or broccoli, to increase my natural absorbtion of iron from foods. I just try to learn all I can from others, including the internet, and then ask my doctor about it. I saw my blood specialist yesterday, and I'm doing better! No infusion this month! Thanks Lois and Harmony! (and others who have supported me about this since I posted on my personal thread about my illnesses )
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2015 14:25:31 GMT -6
I think we need to 'rethink' the standard of 'normal', or of 'mentally ill'. It's been shown that people with certain conditions have made huge contributions but thinking back...most of those were before the advent of the 'brain meds'. They learned to adapt and overcome and achieve. Something oh so many 'normal' people never do. So? How many great advancements are we missing by 'normalizing' people who march to a different drum? Einstein had horrible trouble scholastically but he is what other scientists hold as nearly sacred. Today he would be put on at the very least, Ritalin. Would we listen to the amazing talent of Mozart or would he have been reduced by a drug to chopsticks. I just don't think that all of our advancements are advancements and I don't think everyone who is different..needs to be 'cured'.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2015 14:28:52 GMT -6
Amen Jo.
JC, my dad had to do iron infusions too while he was on dialysis. More needle pokes... ugh!
Beets and spinach are staples in my household because I'm borderline anemic as well. There's new research out... yes an article on facebook if you can trust those things lol... that says most people who suffer from depression and anxiety simply have iron and b-12 deficiencies.
Hmmmmm...
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Post by harmony on Feb 19, 2015 19:26:36 GMT -6
Lorelei, I'm sorry I never explained how I wound up here. I went to MUFON and reported a UFO sighting back when I was barely computer literate. I'll tell you all about it if you want. It changed my life in a big big way and what's hard for me to understand is how others, such as Jokelly was literally abducted and survived the mental challenges of it. I don't think I would be able to handle it quite as gracefully. After MUFON I got to know some others on another site that I can't seem to remember right now...Jokelly, Skywalker, Lois, Jcurio, and a few others and then I joined here when the other site was taken down. I posted a little while but I became real uncomfortable posting about the UFO among other things. I began to think all sorts of scary stuff and figured I was bringing it on myself by posting...making no sense, I know. It's been a hard journey for me to come back and begin posting again for fear of all that starting back happening. Like being watch, being followed, haunting dreams of an alien hybrid daughter. Yes, I needed help. I actually thought we were about to be in a "war of the worlds" scenario....and much like Jcurio, I followed mostly my feelings, which is fine for sane people but not for me at that time... I really lost touch with reality. I was in a bad place but much better now. Let me know if/ when you wanna hear about the UFO my son and I saw. It was pretty up close.
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Post by harmony on Feb 19, 2015 19:36:57 GMT -6
Amen Jo. JC, my dad had to do iron infusions too while he was on dialysis. More needle pokes... ugh! Beets and spinach are staples in my household because I'm borderline anemic as well. There's new research out... yes an article on facebook if you can trust those things lol... that says most people who suffer from depression and anxiety simply have iron and b-12 deficiencies. Hmmmmm... The pernicious anemia symptoms I experienced was numbness and tingling of my left leg. A racing/ skipping heartbeat, breathlessness, my pupils did this funny thing where they opened and shut constantly. A general sick all over feeling, joint pain, anxiety, diarrhea with weight loss. I went from 130lbs to 109. A neurologist diagnosed me but she thought I had MS or RA at first. My family doc started me on B-12 shots in her office beginning with 3 a week for a month, then twice a week for a month and so on. I now do 1 a month at home. All my symptoms disappeared immediately. It was a miracle for me because I thought I was dying. Even on the shots though, I became bi-polar. It's a diagnosis but I don't let it define me. But I do feel like it all started after watching my mother pass away and then the shock of dealing with the reality of UFOs and aliens.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2015 21:53:19 GMT -6
Aliens certainly are terrifying Harmony. They give the willies to everyone who has ever encountered them... well... not all but most.
I drive myself nuts thinking about it as well. I suppose the trick is, as you said, to stop thinking about it all the time.
I refuse to take meds now though. I do get paranoid but not to that point of no return... I can only imagine how frightening that point can be. I've feared I would get to that point myself several times... I'm glad you sought help and were actually helped. Me... I've been on every anti depressant known to man and none of them really helped... if they did the side effects were too unbearable for me to handle.
I'm not one of those people who can just say, "Oh, the aliens are just here to help" when they sneak around in the dark of night and kidnap people or scare the bejeebers out of an eight year old girl and mess with her head while her parents are sleeping... or molest innocent teen girls like Jo and her friend...
Nope. Not good guys. Maybe the end result of what they do creates good things... but their bedside manner so to speak is very poor... and categorizes them as untrustworthy in my book.
Oh man it's nice to have my computer back. I was so fed up with my ipad and its auto correct function. I can actually express myself as a human being now lol...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2015 4:16:27 GMT -6
Lorelei, I'm sorry I never explained how I wound up here. I went to MUFON and reported a UFO sighting . . . I posted a little while but I became real uncomfortable posting about the UFO among other things. . . I began to think all sorts of scary stuff and figured I was bringing it on myself by posting...making no sense, I know. It's been a hard journey for me to come back and begin posting again for fear of all that starting back happening. Like being watch, being followed, haunting dreams of an alien hybrid daughter. . . . I actually thought we were about to be in a "war of the worlds" scenario....and much like Jcurio, I followed mostly my feelings, which is fine for sane people but not for me at that time... I was in a bad place but much better now. Let me know if/ when you wanna hear about the UFO my son and I saw. It was pretty up close. First of all, it sounds like you are saying that "it's Ok for me to follow my feelings because I'm sane" . Girl, you always DO SO MUCH FOR ME! I'm SO glad you are becoming a "regular" again! We met on Mufon (i have frequently called it "Muffin", instead) because it, and this forum started by Sky, are the only ones I've ever been on. ! But I really do appreciate that sentiment, that I've stayed a "part of this group" all along ! It feels like family. And hey, I was wiggin' out on Mufon. Ranging wildly from denial, to paranoia, big-time . And, i think that besides recognizing some of my childhood experiences as more than just paranormal, Muffin itself was a large contributor to my paranoia (mainly, intensified feelings of being "watched"). I had read positive things about M. from the view alien books I took on, but several people talking on M. began voicing their *paranoid* distrust of anything "MUFON". And the issue itself of the "scientific, nuts and bolts", and the obvious distaste for people like myself that had NO PROOF, other than feelings (gut instinct), and then people on the board openly arguing, and then the forum suddenly going dark . . what a MESS!! On top of it all, I got on that forum directly after my fiance' at the time, took his first trip overseas since we became engaged. I was a little ~ embarrassed ~ that he would know that I got on this "crazy forum", but I was also PIS_ ed that he had been making efforts to move some of his "business" contacts "stateside", we were actually thinking of getting a home near the airport, things like that, and then he has to "suddenly take care of something" overseas! He didn't make it home for xmas, but you better believe he was here for my folks 50th anniversary in January! Lol. I'm sorry to say, that anything I put on the "forum" back then, was for him to see. Quite childish of me . Ugh. That relationship hurt me, and I'm not sorry for its demise. The timing of everything then, including me "finding the forum" , sure had a lot of coinky-dinks (WINK). LOL>I don't believe in 'them neither . Thank You for being my friend, and as always, my voice of wisdom. ! When you're ready (again), to speak publically (I'm still somewhat paranoid about PM's), about sseeinngg one up close, I need to hear it also. I remember all kinds of tidbits about you (basically, the last time I have any full memories- was back then), like, someone you know finding a piece of meteor? Or, a discussion between several of us (you were SO SWEET) where we were talking about the *child-skull, and I was a tiny bit offended because of my head size, and facial bone structure? See? I USED to have a great memory! Lol. That whole experience changed me. I used to never hold grudges, especially about people I didn't know well, but I remember a lot of people from those days. Jo may not like me bringing this up, but I remember a poster (that I could name, but won't that really, really was hateful to her for NO REASON. Jo was so kind, and helpful/thoughtful, I didn't even know that Jo was psy, and this lady just lit into her. There was a lot of that going on with several people, but this particular topic was marginally about banning people from a "group topic", and Jo kept her cool . Wow. Weird times. (and of course not long after that, this newbie/me found out just how much the ufo community brings on its own ridicule ). so, no big deal, right? I've always felt close to Skywalker, and I'm sure people have picked up om that. He's ONE cool dude, so when I found out he had this going on. . . . See? I'm soooooo into meself, that I somehow missed hearing about your main event?! SHEESH! Puleeeeese . . . ___________________________________________________________________________________________________ I particularly asked my Doc if I was bi-polar. I definitely seem(ed) to have the major mood swings. I guess, nope . something about my major symptoms being more of a product of a life of frustration. I guess like someone coming home from "the war" with PTSD? Yeah, mine are life-long. I self-medicated almost to death, and got on something shortly after I got married, at 22. Yeah, these docs took their time with me too, finding the right med. The Doc I have now, for the past 8 years, is alright with me. When I told him I was diagnosed with sleep apnea last April, 2014, we both had high hopes that getting proper treatment for it might help me get off the meds. Like you, I also believe that there is somethin' about proper sleep and nutrition to these "brain illnesses", and surprisingly, my doc agreed! Pretty wild to find out he "trusts my judgement" about meself, etc.! He doesn't know about me being on this forum. The only people that do, are my kids . Anyway, I know now that our brains are still major developing thru the teen years, Duh! Why the "drinking age " is 21, duh! and, with my eating habits and self-medicating, I'm afraid that I'm permanently damaged (yeah, Tron. Like your brother, I guess ). But . . . loving you guys, letting you tell me the sh_ _, has got me thru some really dark days. Not being able to "cope" for so long, the guilt, etc., you know. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________ But hey, before anyone thinks I'm advocate of "just stopping meds", I'm not. and yeah, I've tried that too. You want to know what happens to me? whenever i try it, supervision or no, I can't wake up. Seriously. Out of 72 hours in a row, I might be awake for 5-6 hours, and not in a row. and prolly only in the dead of night, when no one knows I'm even grabbing a bite to eat. Of course my mind is VERY active while I'm asleep; I really do have ADHD/ADD . The kicker here, is how much of my "condition" is caused by THEM? Even if you had "tendencies" before you became aware of THEM, well, I just bet . . . and this is part of "their"evil. Do THEy really care what they've done to me and sooo many others? Have THEY got their jollies out of trying to make Randy and me think that we are part of THEM? And look how MANY people talk about the SAME sort of stuff that came up in your mind, too. No one should have to live with that, and I half-believe that some of these thoughts were put out on some "broadcasting system", by several different folks, and it's just another cruel test! (Until several of us have a group- vision like nine-you=know, and what did THAt do,) . . . Okay, okay. I half-think I'm insane now. I know for sure, since I've had my kids (as a point of reference), that sometimes I hear things that just aren't said. I discussed on here, hearing a "voice" telling me to just drop my son, when I was swinging him around! last week, I was sitting right in front of my daughter, and I repeated back to her WHAT I thought she had just said. It was no-where close! And my hearing is excellent!! Thank goodness I have the thought to repeat back, even if it's nothing "bad" said. (but what a rep to have with teenagers! LOL). ______________________________________________________ I'll close with this: metro.co.uk/2015/02/19/a-cautionary-tale-against-being-rude-to-other-people-5070198/(I know I'm getting a mouthy-'tude tonight, and believe me, it will come right back at me as soon as tomorrow ) Thank You for listening . . .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2015 4:31:49 GMT -6
Actually, meant to post this too:
from:http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/iron-deficiency-anemia/basics/symptoms/con-20019327
Symptoms By Mayo Clinic Staff Initially, iron deficiency anemia can be so mild that it goes unnoticed. But as the body becomes more deficient in iron and anemia worsens, the signs and symptoms intensify.
Iron deficiency anemia symptoms may include:
Extreme fatigue Pale skin Weakness Shortness of breath Chest pain Frequent infections Headache Dizziness or lightheadedness Cold hands and feet Inflammation or soreness of your tongue Brittle nails Fast heartbeat
Unusual cravings for non-nutritive substances, such as ice, dirt or starch Poor appetite, especially in infants and children with iron deficiency anemia An uncomfortable tingling or crawling feeling in your legs (restless legs syndrome) -__________________________________________
I also read somewhere, about a whoosh-whooshing sound in the ears. I had this symptom also, and sometimes thought it was THEM coming in stealth-mode in their ship . . . HA!
I had a tingling, or nerve pricking- feeling in my feet; not restless legs.
The only symptom I have left now is headaches.
I ate ice cubes constantly, the past 4 years. after my first iron infusion, no craving this at all, and eating ice was suddenly totally crazy.
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Post by harmony on Feb 21, 2015 21:56:03 GMT -6
So I just finished watching The Fault in our Stars. I am heartbroken. I cried, alot. I'm just thinking now about how nothing is ever truly in our control. Lorelei, I'm sure you've felt this very same way before. I just want to be able to enjoy people. Make sure my kids know that I love them unconditionally and treasure every moment with my husband. If I could, I would want to be able to meet many of you for coffee. We share so much on here about personal experiences and feelings. Fears and joys. And we'll probably never meet. What a shame
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2015 1:34:48 GMT -6
~hugs Harmony~
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Post by harmony on Feb 22, 2015 20:16:18 GMT -6
Hugs back sweetie. Jcurio I actually think you are pretty sane I'm really glad to be here! I also got to thinking I should tell about the UFO my son and I saw. And yes we did have what we thought was a meteorite. My daughter, who found it, she swears it's just volcanic rock. My science teacher at the community college said he also thought it was a meteorite. I posted a video of it on youtube but I don't know how to find it now since I don't remember what my username was??? Anyway, it was about 10:00 on a chilly October night. My son was 10 or 11. He came running upstairs yelling "it's gonna hit our house!" He and I ran back downstairs and through our picture window on the back of the house we saw lights coming toward us. We watched it pull up to go above our house. I told him to run back upstairs and see if he could see it from the upstairs picture window on the front of the house (second story). I wanted him INSIDE... I went out the front door and saw a disk shaped UFO sitting over the field directly in front of our house. About 40 to 50 ft away. Just right across the street. I stood there shocked. I didn't go off the front porch. All of a sudden I felt like I needed to hide. It had lights on it...red, green, and yellow. It just sat there not making any noise that I can recall. Then it just took off like a rocket sideways, went a little ways , then took a right hand turn without turning, like it's side had become it's front. I don't really know how to explain that. It shook all my original beliefs. I had never even thought these could possibly be real. And I just saw one. My life changed. Then I found myself obsessed with the subject. It's been ten years ago and I remember it like it was yesterday. And like most of you I still don't have any answers or explanations of what we saw. I kinda thought MUFON would be like, "Oh you saw a such and such and we can help you find some peace with this, they're harmless or, well it was a training excercise". I got none of that. I guess maybe they just don't know either? Or if they do, they're not talking about it?
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Post by paulette on Feb 23, 2015 12:26:28 GMT -6
Very active thread! Harmony I too would like to hear your UFO story - if and when you are ready to tell it. You could put it on the "private" section of TEOR where only members can see it. Not that we all know all the members.
I wanted to throw a word in about Asperger's Syndrome. I know about it because I married a man who was definitely exhibting signs and I did more reading. His doctor agrees with me! He was like he is since he was a small child - never had friends, most comfortable in the bush, bullied by "neuro-normal" children at school, and then at work as well. Never negociated well to establish friendships - married twice to women who were fairly desparate to have a partner (who would support them). The second marriage lasted a long time under unpleasant circumstances. He joined the Bahaii's and that gave him a way to be with people - but he didn't count any of them as friends. He told me I had taught him more about how to be with people than he had ever known before.
But wait - my father. I finally looked at what kept my parents' marriage together. He had managed to live to about 30 without a girlfriend. His parents hired my mother to "teach him shorthand". Perhaps. I think they hired her (or his sister did) hoping she would teach him more than that. Which she did. He thought he was going to die young (heart defects that were only fixed when he was 60 or so). My mother was also very needy - in a bad marriage and unable to support herself and her young son. He took it all on, but he was quite "blind" to human feelings. I didn't really get it until I had married my present husband and saw the similarities. My father was meta-responsable - but miserable. My prior husband had these traits as well - socially awkard and cut off from his and everyone else's feelings.
Obviously I grew up with, and was comfortable with, these people who are organized to like stuff and ideas more than people. I didn't really "miss" the emotional connection - but my kids did. I am happy to say that they are both "people persons" and not remote and confused about why they don't have friends. They both have great friends. For this I am grateful.
One of the reasons why Asperger's folks get very good at inventing or coming up with new ideas is that they are not really very interested in, or distracted by, other people. My current husband's daughters share these traits as well. One is a computer programmer and happily she found someone like her to be with. Her older sister is basically IMO "lost". Underworks (and has no money.) Doesn't drive or even know how to get to her house easily in a car after living there for 6 years. Is oblivious (and sometimes inappropriate) to others. Interestingly, works supervising kids - their rangy behavior doesn't bother her anymore than anyone else's, in that she is removed from all of us. 34 or so and never had a serious relationship. May not want one.
I don't know about calling these people as "disordered" - as in, having a personality disorder. In some ways they do OK. They certainly enrich our lives as they work on inventions, computer innovations, and all nighst in science labs. While the rest of us want to go home, socialize, eat with friends, watch TV maybe and waste a lot of time - they are happy working on what they are interested in. They are often a gifted subgroup of humanity. The guy who knocked pieces of flint off a rock over and over until he realized he could get a sharp point - he was probably the great great... granddaddy of them all.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2015 12:25:13 GMT -6
Thanks Harmony . You told it well. Those things that we can remember like it was yesterday, or 10 minutes ago . . .
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