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Post by lois on Oct 21, 2012 18:46:01 GMT -6
Aaron posted on facebook a Australian Newspaper. It states 34 or 35 years since Freddie's disappearance . I often wonder if his Father is still living. . It is nice to know he has not been forgotten. You could not read the article at all as the photo of the newspaper was too small.
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Post by lois on Dec 17, 2012 17:03:42 GMT -6
Just found this update. it has been awhile... THURSDAY, JUNE 28, 2012 Valentich files released by Australian Government Hi all, Introduction: The disappearance of Australian pilot Frederick Valentich, on 21 October 1978, over Bass Strait, Australia, has always intrigued global UFO researchers. Valentich, flying a light aircraft, registration VH-DSJ, disappeared on a flight from Moorabbin airport, Melbourne, Victoria, to King Island in Bass Strait. Neither he, nor his aircraft, have been seen since. He reported seeing an unusual object in the sky, during the flight. Government documentation: After the event, the Australian Government's Department of Transport released a three page "Aircraft Accident Investigation Summary Report" dated 27 Apr 1982. In part 7 of that document, headed "Opinion as to cause" the Department stated "The reason for the disappearance of the aircraft has not been determined." The file reference on this document was V116/783/1047. Search for access to V116/783/1047: In 1982 Australian UFO researcher Bill Chalker examined Department of Transport UFO files "...but was specifically denied access to the Valentich files on the grounds that they were Air Accident Investigation files and not UFO files." (Chalker, Bill. 1996. The Oz Files. Duffy & Snellgrove. Potts Point, NSW. Page 170.) more... ufos-scientificresearch.blogspot.com.au/2012/06/valentich-files-released-by-australian.html
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Post by auntym on Dec 17, 2012 19:04:32 GMT -6
lois... here is the UNSOLVED MYSTERIES story on freddy valentich[/color] Unsolved Mysteries 2- UFOs And Aliens 2ndVDO.avi Published on May 2, 2012 Unsolved Mysteries TV show. This episode deals with The disappearance of this young Australian pilot and his plane. Fredrick Velantich 20 years old disappeared from RADAR screen and the earth with his Cessna single-engine plane,down in Australia back in 1978. www.skycontrol.net/ufo/the-frederick-valentich-disappearance-by-paul-n... No one knows to this day what has happened to the young man?! (I still feel terrible for his father/parents). 2nd part 12:02 deasls with the subject of Missing Time and Alien Abduction. They examine many cases such as the case of Robert (Bob) Matthews (1966) and many others like Kristina Florence (at 22:35) both of whom I believe are telling the truth. Also Budd Hopkins, the famous author is interviewed in here as well. Part 3 (Socorro Encounter) at 34:34 is about a very famous UFO sighting by a credible witness (Lonnie Zamora) A police officer on duty. He actually saw "figures" coming out of the spcae craft and walking about. Then the craft took off and disappeared in the skies. They also interviewed (the brave) Capt. Richard T Holder of the White Sand AFB who initiated the investigation into this matter back in 1964. Part 4 at 47:35 (Kecksburg UFO),1965's famous Pensylvania sighting by the people of Kechspurg PA. The people of this town have kept the model of UFO (Acorn shape)built by UM (same one used in this TV episode) and have set it up on a tower as a reminder of government's coverups in UFO matters. I believe it is still there to this day! Part 5, 1:08 (and 13 seconds, sorry I had to take the seconds off so it would turn into a link), (Texas UFO) about these 2 ladies (Betty Cash and her friend) and a boy who witnessed an UFO over the road they were traveling in near Houston Tx. and later became very ill by the radiations poisoning they received from that craft. AirForce and the govt. have turn the cold shoulder to them which is very disgraceful! This happened in 1980. UFON Has reopened this case in recent years so look it up on Google Part6; 1:23 (and :37 seconds, for some reason the numbers stayed black). Face On Mars. There are strange artifacts on planet Mars which NASA and other govt. agencies prevent the people from getting the info.? The face on Mars has many intricit details which make it almost impossible to say that this was act of "nature". (I have also discovered some writings in different language below and around the "Head")?! Coincident? Judge for yourself. CMP (Aired on NBC) Host: Robert Stack Producer (Friend of RS): John Cosgrove
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Post by skywalker on Dec 17, 2012 19:06:37 GMT -6
Very interesting. I've been waiting for that file to be released. It has a copy of the transcript of the conversation between Valentich and the Flight Service Unit (FSU) which is the radio control tower he was communicating with. I'm going to reproduce it here as fast as my little fingers can type it. I hope nobody dies of old age before I get finished.
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Post by skywalker on Dec 17, 2012 20:13:42 GMT -6
Here is the complete transcript as recorded in the official documents. ************************************ FV: "Melbourne this is Delta Sierra Juliet. Is there any known traffic below five thousand?" FSU: "Delta Sierra Juliet...no known traffic" FV: "Delta Sierra Juliet...I am...seems (to) be a large aircraft below five thousand" FSU: "Delta Sierra Juliet...what type of aircraft is it?" FV: "Delta Sierra Juliet...I can not affirm. It is four bright...it seems to me like landing lights." FSU: "Delta Sierra Juliet..." FV: "Melbourne this is Delta Sierra Juliet. The aircraft has just passed over me at least a thousand feet above." FSU: "Delta Sierra Juliet...Roger and it is a large aircraft. Confirm." FV: "err...unknown due to the speed it is traveling. Is there any air force aircraft in the vicinity?" FSU: "Delta Sierra Juliet...no known aircraft in the vicinity." FV: "Melbourne, it's approaching now from due east towards me." FSU: "Delta Sierra Juliet..." FV: "Delta Sierra Juliet...it seems to me that he's playing some sort of game...he's flying over me two, three times at a time at speeds I could not identify." FSU: "Delta Sierra Juliet...Roger. What is your actual level?" FV: "My level is four and a half thousand. Four five zero zero." FSU: "Delta Sierra Juliet. And confirm you cannot identify the aircraft?" FV: "Affirmative." FSU: "Delta Sierra Juliet. Roger...stand by." FV: "Melbourne, Delta Sierra Juliet. It's not an aircraft. It is..." (static) FSU: "Delta Sierra Juliet, Melbourne. Can you describe the...err...aircraft?" FV: "Delta Sierra Juliet. As it's flying past it's a long shape...(static for three seconds)...cannot identify more than that it has such speed...(static for three seconds)...before me right now, Melbourne." FSU: "Delta Sierra Juliet. Roger and how large would the...err...object be?" FV: "Delta Sierra Juliet, Melbourne. It seems like it's stationary. What I'm doing right now is orbiting and the thing is just orbiting on top of me. Also it's got a green light and sort of metallic (like) it's all shiny (on) the outside." FSU: "Delta Sierra Juliet..." FV: "Delta Sierra Juliet...(silence for five seconds)...It's just vanished." FSU: "Delta Sierra Juliet..." FV: "Melbourne, would you know what kind of aircraft I've got? Is it military aircraft?" FSU: "Delta Sierra Juliet. Confirm that the...err...aircraft just vanished." FV: "Say again?" FSU: "Delta Sierra Juliet...is the aircraft still with you?" FV: "Delta Sierra Juliet. It's...(static for seconds)...now approaching from the southwest." FSU: "Delta Sierra Juliet..." FV: "Delta Sierra Juliet. The engine is rough idling. I've got it set at twenty three...twenty four...and the thing is coughing." FSU: "Delta Sierra Juliet...Roger. What are your intentions?" FV: "My intentions are...uh...to go to King Island...uh...Melbourne. That strange aircraft is hovering on top of me again...(two seconds silence)...It is hovering and it's not an aircraft." FSU: "Delta Sierra Juliet..." FV: "...(17 seconds open microphone)... FSU: "Delta Sierra Juliet, Melbourne..." ************************************* There was no further communication from Freddie Valentich.
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Post by skywalker on Dec 17, 2012 20:44:01 GMT -6
A few things I noticed from reading the transcript. Whenever the UFO was in close proximity the radio kept cutting out...either going silent or filled with static. This type of electrical or radio interference is very commonly reported during close encounters with alien craft. Later on the plane's engine also began running rough and having problems possibly from the same interference. At one point Freddie seemed a little bit confused. When the plane's engine started running rough the Flight controller asked what his intentions were...like was he going to try to keep going or turn around or ditch in the water or what. Valentich seemed to think he was being asked what his intended flight plan was. Was the confusion caused by a lack of experience or because of the weird events he was experiencing at that moment? I also noticed how the UFO seemed to keep coming at him from different directions...flying over him....circling around him. It kind of reminded me of the behavior sharks exhibit while circling their prey. It seemed like the UFO was definitely displaying predatory behavior.
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Post by lois on Dec 26, 2012 22:12:39 GMT -6
I have Freddie's voice on a tape from sightings. He also says the cockpit is lit up green and he it is scorching hot .. there are green threads floating in the green. Never forget those words as it was what I saw in my green beam .. I was frozen to the TV for a good 15 minutes. I played that tape now stop for ten years. Go to my mufon report from 1998 you will see I put at the end of my experience about freddie and something in the cockpit which I will not disclose in the report . I wanted one thing left out that I could add later with a reference prior. . There are windows , no not windows some type of observation post. She is breaking up she is going to konk .. What is breaking up I don"t know but then it is silent forever. They said his Father was allowed to listen to his son one time then the tape were erased. Now who do they expect to believe that?
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Post by lois on Jan 14, 2014 22:51:06 GMT -6
FREDDIE'S FAMILY SPEAKS ABOUT THEIR SON AFTER HE VANISHED.
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Post by lois on Jan 14, 2014 23:23:08 GMT -6
The only true witness in this case is the man in the control tower. That is why I like this video so much. I think debunkers had him change his thinking on this matter. If you follow him through the years.
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Post by auntym on Apr 5, 2014 14:42:13 GMT -6
www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/ufo-suspicions-still-cloud-disappearance-of-frederick-valentich/story-fni0fit3-1226875604542 UFO suspicions still cloud disappearance of Frederick Valentich Mark Dunn Herald Sun April 05, 2014 THE mystery of what became of pilot Frederick Valentich who disappeared mid-flight off the Victorian coast 36 years ago while telling air traffic control he was being followed by a UFO might never be solved. But recently unearthed papers do shed some light on the bizarre incident. Air safety investigation documents reveal an engine cowl flap from the same model Cessna 182 aircraft he was flying in 1978 washed ashore at Flinders Island five years after he vanished. But opinions were divided on whether the 30cm long component, broken in three pieces and corroded, came from Valentich’s doomed plane. And now it appears the part may have been lost or scrapped. Frederick’s brother Richard has called on aviation authorities to ascertain whether the cowl debris remains in storage somewhere. Modern tests could verify if it was in the salt water of Bass Strait for five years. “If there is some evidence that can link it then it is worth pursuing,” Mr Valentich, 47 said. In a bizarre coincidence, investigation documents held by the National Archives of Australia also show Frederick Valentich had spoken to his girlfriend about being taken by a UFO just a week before his Cessna disappeared. CONTINUE READING: www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/ufo-suspicions-still-cloud-disappearance-of-frederick-valentich/story-fni0fit3-1226875604542
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Post by swamprat on Aug 9, 2014 17:46:11 GMT -6
Farmer may hold UFO clue to 36-year Valentich plane mystery Aaron Langmaid Herald Sun August 09, 2014
INVESTIGATORS have shed new light on one of ¬Australia’s greatest aviation mysteries. Almost 36 years to the month that Victorian pilot Fred Valentich vanished without a trace, an independent researcher says there is evidence suggesting the 20-year-old’s Cessna was spotted in the sky over South Australia — attached to a UFO.
The Victorian UFO ¬Action group wants help to identify a farmer near Adelaide who reportedly ¬witnessed the 30m craft hovering over his property the morning after Mr Valentich went missing.
It is claimed the Cessna was stuck to the side of the craft, leaking oil. The farmer even scratched the plane’s registration number on to his tractor but never came forward with the information because he was ridiculed by the few friends he told.
The theory has sparked furious debate as the nation’s leading UFO investigators prepare for a national conference in Melbourne next month.
Lead investigator George Simpson, one of the last people to see the plane in the sky, says the farmer, if still alive, might have information to solve the mystery.
He conceded there was no proof, but said it was the best new lead for a case that had intrigued Australians for decades. “It’s easy for some to dismiss, but there are corroborating stories confirming that there was a UFO near Adelaide at the time,” Mr Simpson said.
Mr Valentich had been on a routine cargo flight to King Island in October 1978 when he disappeared. In his last conversation with air traffic control, he ¬reported an object hovering in front of him and said it was “not an aircraft’’. It was the last thing Mr Valentich said before a strange metallic clicking sound was heard and the transmission stopped.
Extensive searches failed to find any trace of the plane or the pilot.
“This was an experienced pilot who should have been able to identify another aircraft but was clearly unable to,” Mr Simpson said.
Adding to the mystery, an amateur photo taken in the area that evening shows a dark unidentifiable shape in the sky.
Investigators are also trying to find a copy of Valentich’s final transmission that was originally aired on Melbourne radio station 3XY.
The Valentich case will be among a string of Aussie X-files to be discussed when the Victorian UFO Action group hosts its “Age of Reason” conference on September 6.
For more information, go to the website vufoa.com
www.heraldsun.com.au/news/farmer-may-hold-ufo-clue-to-36year-valentich-plane-mystery/story-fni0fiyv-1227019116651?nk=0941ade2655296215c8f6be93745d77d
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Post by skywalker on Aug 9, 2014 18:47:00 GMT -6
Thanks, swampy. I was going to post that article here this morning but as usual MY STUPID COMPUTER IS NOT WORKING!!! (lots of angry faces would go here if I had access to angry faces)
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Post by lois on Aug 10, 2014 0:44:33 GMT -6
I have speculated what if the plane was in trouble before the ufo appeared. It was not the ship that was causing its default. So it picked him up plane and all. All aliens may not be bad aliens. Such as the ones that look human. What I seen as a child looked very human. I don't care how it happened all that matters is what happen to Freddie? If this guy was 20 at the time he could still be alive. It is a long shot of course and maybe not the truth he is telling. I wish they would play that tape again. . A lot more is in the tape than what you see written on paper. I remember the cockpit was green with long hairs flying in it like what I seen and I never read anything like this til I heard what the tower operator told in the beginning. Governments all leave out the good parts with too much information. Like Mufon does.
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Post by lois on Aug 10, 2014 0:51:39 GMT -6
It took me til the 90s to hear about another green beam case. Freddie had no way of knowing of a case like this . and even more about the long strains . Not back then. Sky tried to draw what I witness but none was really like it.. Very few reported even today. When I heard it on TV. My mouth hung down to my chest and I could not move. I had waited for years to get some kind of validation of what happen to me. It was not just the green beam it was the hairs floating around. Ever heard a witness tell it was in a blue beam or a white beam? I have a vhs tape with the radio man live on TV. It is like looking for a needle in a hay stack. When it comes to ufo tapes of mine . I just found where Paulette made a reply that his father also said what was written in the manuscript is not all Freddie said. Paulette's post is back on this thread in 2011. What she posted I watched that show they took it from.
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Post by swamprat on Sept 14, 2015 19:29:19 GMT -6
New Development in the Case of Frederick Valentich?Researcher Keith Basterfield, who located and published official Australian government files on the investigation of the disappearance of Frederick Valentich and his aircraft, reported Sep. 12 that he has now located two additional unreleased files.
Basterfield explained in a blog post that the current status of the files is "Not Yet Examined," so he requested they be examined for release. The researcher added that their contents is unknown at this time, and that he will make them available for viewing if and when they are released to him.
Guess we'll just have to stay tuned......
Read more at:
ufos-scientificresearch.blogspot.co.uk/2015/09/found-two-more-australian-government.html
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Post by lois on Sept 16, 2015 21:02:47 GMT -6
New Development in the Case of Frederick Valentich?Researcher Keith Basterfield, who located and published official Australian government files on the investigation of the disappearance of Frederick Valentich and his aircraft, reported Sep. 12 that he has now located two additional unreleased files.
Basterfield explained in a blog post that the current status of the files is "Not Yet Examined," so he requested they be examined for release. The researcher added that their contents is unknown at this time, and that he will make them available for viewing if and when they are released to him.
Guess we'll just have to stay tuned......
Read more at:
ufos-scientificresearch.blogspot.co.uk/2015/09/found-two-more-australian-government.html And I thought I was going to hear what I been waiting for. A ufo took him and his plane or him alone. Well I don't have time to wait another 20 years . Hope it s soon Paul.
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Post by skywalker on Jan 16, 2017 20:11:15 GMT -6
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Post by lois on Jan 16, 2017 23:05:56 GMT -6
The tower said they heard a sound like metal breaking up. They may of taken him before the plane actual went down. I have had lots of time to think about this. All kinds of things have went through my mind with this one no one would believe. The plane was in trouble and the pilot did not know it. So they took him to save him. Ufos has even helped planes in trouble land when they may of crashed. More than once. But I never remember where . I do know they were always in countries out side the US. One was at a military base and at night. I seen videos of it twenty years ago or longer. Why they would never return him is anyone's guess. Things may have been different is his Dad had went with him he always did. Freddie ask his Dad to go but he had other plans. There was a man who seen oil spilling out of something. A farmer I believe who was afraid to come forward at the time. On our experience thread when we had this case to do. I ask Aaron if the strait waters ever turn black as I seen something drooping into the water and he water was black. This was before that farmer came forward. I don't see any reason Freddie would fake his death. To leave his family for life. They were all close by the stories I have heard and listen to his Father speak about it. I really think they took him and kept him.
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Post by jcurio on Jan 17, 2017 8:33:55 GMT -6
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Post by jcurio on Feb 11, 2018 23:31:14 GMT -6
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