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Post by randy on Oct 7, 2017 9:48:53 GMT -6
If appears no one has yet touched on the Las Vegas issue to date so I will open the ball so to speak. I am amazed at the clouds of misleading data on this. I have read on the internet he was shooting everything from a AR 15, AK 47 to a belt fed heavy machine gun. He had any where from 10-47 guns in the room. What would he do with 47 guns being only one man Two hispanic men were reported as warning people not to go in to the concert they would die. Then that was change to being one woman warning people. Muzzle flashes were seen coming from the 4th floor and none from the 32nd floor. The shooter had valet service at the Hotel three days before his reported check in time. Lots of conflicting things being reported to cloud the issue. The length of the shooting has been reported anywhere between 5=72 minutes MY own ideas are it was the hotel staff as in maids who did the shooting the man was a convenient body left at the scene to take the blame. Maids could have transported the guns and ammo in laundry carts and noticed as they worked there. Why cant a woman be a shooter Or was it even a woman. Young men dressed as women The North Koreans did that in that war. They come in put one in the guys ten ring do the shooting then leave becoming poor scared maids for the police. To use a Sci Fi term the guy could have been a zatack a programed shooter who kills himself after the deed so he can not be questioned.
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Post by jcurio on Oct 7, 2017 10:53:47 GMT -6
A couple of us "here" have touched on these type of issues, Randy.
I'm sure the "good" public servants are out there thinking about these things also.
We don't have "the top of the line" intel here, and none of us have "claimed" any premonitions on this type of stuff..... nothing that could stop it from happening by knowing exact detail......
IF there was a "person" who DID this kind of PSI, including "remote viewing", that would also explain WHY these type of crimes SEEM TO BE RANDOM AND UNPREDICTABLE.
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Post by skywalker on Oct 7, 2017 16:59:06 GMT -6
I think he's just a wackopathic loser who decided to off himself because his pathetic life was meaningless. It's a shame he had to take a bunch of innocent people with him. And while I understand everybody's mistrust of both the government and the news media I think these conspiracy theories are being way too charitable to the moron by suggesting that it was not entirely his fault. I hate to burst everybody's conspiratorial bubble but the only person to blame is the pathetic moronic waste of life *bleep* who pulled the triggers. I hope he burns in a thousand hells.
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Post by jcurio on Oct 7, 2017 17:55:53 GMT -6
And if that makes you feel better than your hard-earned tax payer dollars going to him at the local luxury prison, I totally understand.
And I'm really thankful that you are freely able to express this opinion.
It IS unfortunate that our tax payer dollars are truly financing all this speculation (of course mine is free and worthless) in leu of trying to stop the next financially stable idiot that can't think of better things to do with his time.
I'm mortified that you would actually see my comments as giving any one an "excuse".
I'm not angry with your comments. And I hope that my comments do not anger you.
But I'm not discouraged from trying to figure out "WHY this guy turned out to be such a loser".
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Post by skywalker on Oct 7, 2017 18:31:36 GMT -6
Sorry, Jc. I wasn't talking about you. I've just been reading a lot of crap on the internet lately where people seem to be making the guy sound way too innocent, like he had nothing to do with his own actions and was just an innocent pawn being used by the government for some false flag scam. I guess I'm just really tired of seeing innocent people murdered by terrorists or mass murderers or just psychopathic wackos. I really don't see any way it's going to stop though. It's way too easy for one wacko to murder a bunch of innocent people. The marathon bomber made a bomb out of a pressure cooker, that idiot Timothy mcvey made a bomb out of fertilizer and gasoline, that idiot in France ran over a bunch of people with a truck, and now this latest moron just shoots up a whole crowd just for the fun of it. There's not even any motive. At least the Islamic terrorists have a motive. It's a stupid one but still a motive. This guy had no reason at all. How are we possibly going to stop this type of stuff if just any random person could just go nuts at any time? It's going to keep happening too and nobody seems to have a clue what to do about it. I didn't mean to sound so angry but this latest attack really bothers me. I look at all the faces of the victims who were just out trying to live their lives and have a little fun and now they are gone...for no reason? This world is going to hell. I apologize if I offended anybody.
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Post by skywalker on Oct 7, 2017 18:56:19 GMT -6
Btw, I welcome any discussion on this topic. Not trying to tell people to stop speculating or quit trying to come up with answers. I do it too because sometimes they really are conspiracies.
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Post by skywalker on Oct 7, 2017 18:59:03 GMT -6
And I'm shutting up now.
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Post by jcurio on Oct 7, 2017 21:59:28 GMT -6
Funny how I said I was going to shut up also. 😶
But, look at "this" again
James Holmes, aurora theater. Wiki.
The 29 yr old "kid" says he had no motive (among other things pointed out generously in this article).
Sky, we all should have to deal how we can with these monstrosities. With talking about it; not weapons that maim and kill. However, how do we shield our children from the constant barrage of this negativity on the news??
This James Holmes kid sank into depression. He also reached out for help. Even warned a friend. But a "motive", can be a "mood disorder"??
J. Holmes died his hair red, and had a room decorated in a batman theme. I think that I just read somewhere that Paddock had a super man tattoo on his arm??
If they "can't be outstanding like a super-hero", they decide to "go bad"??
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Post by auntym on Oct 8, 2017 13:37:40 GMT -6
don't we get enough of this extremely upsetting info on the news everyday ?
do we really have to see it here?
i say, take this to another forum where they will discuss it at great length with you...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 13:21:52 GMT -6
Sky just got through saying he welcomed comments here..so I think that was kind of harsh Auntie. People are naturally upset by this and want to discuss it with FRIENDS...not others they don't know. JC...I don't think some people really need motives. A glitch in the brain..an anger so deep it erupted...he may have been schizophrenic...but I don't aim to excuse his behavior with anything. He perpetuated a heinous crime..and likely killed himself because he would not have been happy in prison OR facing a death penalty (vegas pro death or not? dunno). He was controlling...what he did right up to the end. Would..being able to understand him..make it an easier pill to swallow? Even if the aliens told him to do it...and I am relatively sure this was his idea...it doesn't give him a pass. But...I'm sure he'd be delighted with all of the attention.
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Post by auntym on Oct 10, 2017 16:38:07 GMT -6
Sky just got through saying he welcomed comments here..so I think that was kind of harsh Auntie. People are naturally upset by this and want to discuss it with FRIENDS...not others they don't know. although its always interesting to read what you think jo... not everyone agrees...what i'm surprised about is it took you 2 days to voice your opinion...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 17:12:41 GMT -6
Just happened to notice it oh scathing voice in the dark of my day.. just kidding. Truth be told..I added in for exactly the reason I said. Some people want to bat things around with a pal rather than strangers...Where's the harm as people can just detour around the post..yes?? I'm not trying to 'choose you out' Auntie..I like you...I may be alone in that between us but it remains I wasn't trying to be mean..just make a point. Now in all probability JC ran to duck for cover and you scared her into oblivion...as the walls do shake when you roar. Do you truly figure I post too much??? Maybe a poll is in order. Does Jo yak too much? Does her opinion count for nothing??? Does her opinion stink? ? Feel free...
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Post by auntym on Oct 10, 2017 17:41:34 GMT -6
Just happened to notice it oh scathing voice in the dark of my day.. just kidding. Truth be told..I added in for exactly the reason I said. Some people want to bat things around with a pal rather than strangers...Where's the harm as people can just detour around the post..yes?? I'm not trying to 'choose you out' Auntie..I like you...I may be alone in that between us but it remains I wasn't trying to be mean..just make a point. Now in all probability JC ran to duck for cover and you scared her into oblivion...as the walls do shake when you roar. Do you truly figure I post too much??? Maybe a poll is in order. Does Jo yak too much? Does her opinion count for nothing??? Does her opinion stink? ? Feel free...
... and like i said before, not everyone agrees...
oh, FYI...and just between you & me, i don't much care if anyone likes me here... thats their problem---not mine...
and where does it say i think you post to much... i think the problem is you put to much importance on you
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2017 9:07:50 GMT -6
Well I'm glad you cleared that up for me. I am a leo after all...we tend to have an opinion on just about everything under the sun...but I did think that was encouraged here. Guess I was wrong...sigh...
So...I'll just refrain from it.
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Post by jcurio on Oct 13, 2017 12:26:05 GMT -6
Nope, DID NOT RUN FOR COVER. Just busy. 😊
And some time ago, Aunty ADMITTED to Swampy that SHE "arranges" topics as she chooses. 😇
I already KNEW that by simple observation skills, NOT PSI, because the first thing I do (in my busy life) when I get on here, is look for "most recently posted" ....... but it "was nice" that SHE admitted it. Instead of me thinking that some "outside person" was doing this for nefarious reasons. 😉
For me to sound a bit prideful, I know for a fact that the "internet" picks and chooses WHAT "It"! wants to bring to my attention..... Lol. This fact greatly assists me when I am doing things like ...... research.
"IT" has NEVER lead me to opinions possibly involving myself. Those I find on my own, and some of them (not just here on the internet) SEEM TO BE "hidden" from me . 😇
I DO care about all the "opinions" on here. I can completely understand why Jo would think that I ran and ducked for cover. She is just fine saying that about me! I just "missed this" . So I am clarifying.
And, I had already "hashed this" with Skywalker.
And Aunty, I understand your opinion, but I will remind you that TEOR is the only place that I consistently post on, or even get on the internet for. You can say whatever you want. 😁
Rule for me on UNSOLICITED opinions. Does the person write my paycheck? Feed me?
Another rule: IF I ASK for someone's opinion..... don't be looking for what I want to hear. (Ask yourself that question BEFORE asking for someones
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Post by skywalker on Oct 14, 2017 11:49:22 GMT -6
Everything is cool, dude. Post whatever you want.
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Post by lois on Oct 14, 2017 21:56:37 GMT -6
Hi everyone . I don't have any ufos to report but I seen the thread and thought I would tell you what happened to my friend Louise's granddaughter. She was in the front row of on that horrible night in Vegas. She said she thought she heard fireworks but paid it no mind. Not until People to her left in the front row where she was sitting all started to fall out out of their seats. Even the girl sitting next to her was shot and fell off her seat. Tess that is her name . She is about 25 years old now. She was with her friend. When the woman next to her laid at her feet her and her friend hit the ground. She tried to call Louise . Louise said it just sound like mumbling and then the phone went dead. She went onto bed without even knowing about what was taking place.
Tess and her friend crawled to the stage and around it. They manage to get out back where Trucks or Buses were waiting . the Police took them to some kind of hanger. She told her friend "I'm not staying here all night. They found some wire cutters and cut there way out I'm not clear on this part of what happen, but they were in some hanger at the Vegas Airport. Then she called her grandma Louise again. This time Louise sat up and listened. Tess told her she could not go home that she was coming there to spend the night. She was in a very bad way Really traumatized. I keep trying to call as I thought just maybe someone went to the show. No answer for a couple of days. I was shocked to hear Tess's story. Poor girl did not go back to work. She is seeing a therapist right now. I thank God everyday since those bullets stopped when they got to Tess's seat. They stopped only a few inches from her head.
Tess is having night mares about the girl next to her. My heart goes out to her and all those people killed and the ones who survived. I was having a nervous breakdown as I knew something was up. Louise never came on FB and not answering her phone was a worry. Louse is still a member here but never comes on. Sky did she ever mention what happen on her Timeline? Let me know if she did.
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Post by skywalker on Oct 14, 2017 23:03:24 GMT -6
She never said anything that I know of. Probably too traumatized to talk about it. I don't blame her.
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Post by jcurio on Oct 15, 2017 5:46:32 GMT -6
Poor Tess. Will be praying for her. ❤️
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Post by paulette on Oct 15, 2017 6:36:43 GMT -6
And if that makes you feel better than your hard-earned tax payer dollars going to him at the local luxury prison, I totally understand. And I'm really thankful that you are freely able to express this opinion. It IS unfortunate that our tax payer dollars are truly financing all this speculation (of course mine is free and worthless) in leu of trying to stop the next financially stable idiot that can't think of better things to do with his time. I'm mortified that you would actually see my comments as giving any one an "excuse". I'm not angry with your comments. And I hope that my comments do not anger you. But I'm not discouraged from trying to figure out "WHY this guy turned out to be such a loser". I posted a version of this on FB. The man's father was on the FBI wanted list. He robbed banks and threatened people with guns. He had a lot of guns. The shooter's mother moved frequently. Its safe to say that he didn't have much healthy male modeling. We know from the twin studies that people can inherit the "Dark Triad" of personality traits: "all three dark triad traits are conceptually distinct although empirical evidence shows them to be overlapping. They are associated with a callous-manipulative interpersonal style. Narcissism is characterized by grandiosity, pride, egotism, and a lack of empathy. Machiavellianism is characterized by manipulation and exploitation of others, a cynical disregard for morality, and a focus on self-interest and deception.[11] Psychopathy is characterized by continuing antisocial behavior, impulsivity, selfishness, callousness, and remorselessness" (Wikipedia: dark triad) This doesn't EXCUSE the person from their actions. But it may EXPLAIN how and why someone might think that taking an action like he did was in any way useful to him. You can't get more grandiose than shooting over a hundred people from very far away. No empathy for himself, his victims, his girl friend...The rest of the characteristics fit as well. It's impossible to say how he might have turned out as a human if he'd been raised in a family with ethics of caring for others. But he did not. I don't know if his mother is alive - she seems to not be a part of the story. His brother passes as nearly normal - but somehow I don't believe that he didn't know that his brother was capable of killing people. (maybe the scale of it surprised him).I have a sociopathic half brother - 7.5 years older than me. I realized (while reading Inside the Mind of a Psychopath) that he had tried to kill me on several ocassions. He had encouraged/shamed me to go out in water that was not safe. I have terrors without solid memories that go way back into my childhood. I haven't seen him in about 25 years. I talked with his estranged wife by email, and she ended up in the psych ward for a month. He had chosen someone unstable that he could completely control. He came and went from her life. If my brother was or had been charged with mass murder - I would have already known that he was capable of it. He had bragged to me (I was maybe 11) that after his Marine training that he could kill someone with his hands and not make a mark. My aged mother died in his house - no autopsy, the coroner assumed it was an embolism. My brother got his inheritance before it was "frittered away" paying to keep her in care. I've had a few in my office over the years. They came in and bragged about what they had gotten away with. My chronic PTSD is fed by such revelations...
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Post by jcurio on Oct 19, 2017 6:36:55 GMT -6
You can't get more grandiose than shooting over a hundred people from very far away. No empathy for himself, his victims, his girl friend...The rest of the characteristics fit as well. It's impossible to say how he might have turned out as a human if he'd been raised in a family with ethics of caring for others. But he did not. I don't know if his mother is alive - she seems to not be a part of the story. His brother passes as nearly normal - but somehow I don't believe that he didn't know that his brother was capable of killing people. (maybe the scale of it surprised him).I have a sociopathic half brother - 7.5 years older than me. I realized (while reading Inside the Mind of a Psychopath) ...... Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/7344/las-vegas-shooter-zatack?page=1#ixzz4vxOV8Wcu
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Post by jcurio on Oct 19, 2017 6:40:04 GMT -6
Sorry, Jc. I wasn't talking about you. I've just been reading a lot of crap on the internet lately where people seem to be making the guy sound way too innocent, like he had nothing to do with his own actions and was just an innocent pawn being used by the government for some false flag scam. I guess I'm just really tired of seeing innocent people murdered by terrorists or mass murderers or just psychopathic wackos. I really don't see any way it's going to stop though. It's way too easy for one wacko to murder a bunch of innocent people. The marathon bomber made a bomb out of a pressure cooker, that idiot Timothy mcvey made a bomb out of fertilizer and gasoline, that idiot in France ran over a bunch of people with a truck, and now this latest moron just shoots up a whole crowd just for the fun of it. There's not even any motive. At least the Islamic terrorists have a motive. It's a stupid one but still a motive. This guy had no reason at all. How are we possibly going to stop this type of stuff if just any random person could just go nuts at any time? It's going to keep happening too and nobody seems to have a clue what to do about it. I didn't mean to sound so angry but this latest attack really bothers me. I look at all the faces of the victims who were just out trying to live their lives and have a little fun and now they are gone...for no reason? This world is going to hell. I apologize if I offended anybody.
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Post by jcurio on Oct 19, 2017 6:41:38 GMT -6
Sky just got through saying he welcomed comments here..People are naturally upset by this and want to discuss it with FRIENDS...not others they don't know. JC...I don't think some people really need motives. A glitch in the brain..an anger so deep it erupted...he may have been schizophrenic...but I don't aim to excuse his behavior with anything. He perpetuated a heinous crime..and likely killed himself because he would not have been happy in prison OR facing a death penalty (vegas pro death or not? dunno). He was controlling...what he did right up to the end. Would..being able to understand him..make it an easier pill to swallow? Even if the aliens told him to do it...and I am relatively sure this was his idea...it doesn't give him a pass. But...I'm sure he'd be delighted with all of the attention.
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Post by jcurio on Oct 19, 2017 6:45:26 GMT -6
Discussing THIS with FRIENDS. 😊
As I've said before, I value ALL of your opinions.
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