whatwouldyousuggest
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Post by whatwouldyousuggest on Dec 27, 2017 10:38:51 GMT -6
Usually I don't remember them and when I do they're always something silly like my brain is having a holiday up there. This one was different and it's disturbing enough to stick with. Maybe someone will have a theory for me.
My husband who recently died was the 'star' and he was carrying around a baby poisonous snake which kept striking at him over and over. Not connecting, just striking. Meantime..I've had a friend for many years who is a quadripelegic or rather as they call it..an incomplete quad..he has control over two fingers on each hand and arm. Manages all sorts of things he shouldn't be able too..he should have died 30 years ago (predicted from the time of his accident)..flies a glider plane..drives a race car (which is what crippled him)...anyway he about 6 months ago was dropped by his care taker and broke one of his legs..they do not heal quickly or well..and he has been totally limited since..that leg being very swollen. He wishes they would just cut it off but they won't Anyway. Husband with snake was waiting for this friend to come pick him up..I have no idea where they were going but he used to pick him up in his van and they would go for coffee...maybe that was the plan...I dunno...they had not done this in many years.
So Mike (husband) with snake is waiting and it slithers down his pants leg and comes to rest (comfortably I guess) around his ankle...snake at rest? That was it. But in the first place I never dream about snakes. I had one snake nightmare as a child stuck in a bath tub surrounded by writhing snakes...I was about 5 before the first little encounter. This was something different.
Mike 'flirted' with death via smoking and not staying in the hospital when he should have but this didn't seem like that. The silly little snake just kept ineffectually striking at him...didn't even seem like a serious attempt at anything but just kept at it. In my dream I was actually counting the strikes and telling Mike ...one...two...that's three...etc.
The friend has been on my mind since he came home from his long hospital stay...so I might have thrown him in just because of that. He had so much on his plate already without breaking a limb and to be honest I have put off calling him because I don't know what to say...I feel so bad for him. Maybe that part of the dream is guilt..
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Post by skywalker on Dec 28, 2017 11:36:50 GMT -6
Hmm...I'll take a flying wild guess at it.
I would say that you are still wishing you could have helped your husband. That's why you were warning him about the snake to try to get him to change his behavior. And even though he knew the danger he wouldn't let it go. When the snake crawled down to his ankle it meant that the danger was always there. Even though it may have hidden it was ready to strike at any time.
Your friend being in the dream and coming to join your husband may mean that you are worried that he is in danger of dying also.
That's just my wild guess but sounds kind of interesting. I say call the dude up. It doesn't matter what you say, just be there as a friend.
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whatwouldyousuggest
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Post by whatwouldyousuggest on Dec 29, 2017 0:29:02 GMT -6
Sounds entirely plausible and I think you're right. Might be the psychic in me waking up a bit knowing that my friend's days are probably numbered. I just couldn't see that for myself. Thanks Sky.
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Post by jcurio on Jan 8, 2018 21:35:24 GMT -6
Yep; sounds on target to me too, Skywalker. Wish you’d take a stab at some of my wild dreams 😁.
Now that it’s been a little bit of “time”’since the dream, I’m wondering if you have called your friend?
I’m afraid that you’re going to call him up and find out that he died around the same time as Mike? Not really afraid, per sec..... you know you are “psi” prone.
So, going just a little deeper, (it was YOUR dream, after all), have you ever considered that your husband was trying to hold off dying ..... because of YOU? For the most part it sounds like he treated you mostly as an extension of him, and didn’t give much thought to your feelings and wants and desires. Taurus, I believe? So if a person cannot emotionally connect or express themselves, they often try to do things we don’t even want? So, physically this “staying alive” was a last act of love. (I’m so crappy at this). You had Mike “convinced” that he WAS your whole world, so his last concern is “what is she going to do without me?”
(Trying not to delete this-I did say I’m feeling like crapola....)
The “waiting” thing? For the friend? Maybe just 2 guys you care about.... but the “waiting” has actually been .... You. (Especially if the guy was supposed to die 30 some years ago).
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Post by whatwouldyousuggest on Jan 9, 2018 0:10:41 GMT -6
Haven't called my friend yet but my son works for him so I know he's doing well...happy to be home. I think that this will have taken a toll on him physically though...it's so hard to deal with the constant problems paralysis causes long term. Concerning my husband...no I don't think he gave much thought to anything the last month or so. It's kind of a strange world when hospice comes in..there is criteria that has to be met before they will 'take' on a patient. In his case...his weight was dropping so dramatically. One of the first things they do is dispense meds. Morphine and vicodin in generous doses. Once morphine takes hold...they care less and less and use more and more. It's a downhill roll period. To keep them comfortable and out of pain but not to prop them up with heart meds or even vitamins. Nothing to 'delay'. He was the kind of person who responded to pain killers...and morphine is very addictive. He ceased to have any real care or concern about a month before he died. Impossible to say what was in is mind but not so much I think...away dreaming is what I figure. That was about the time he stopped paying attention to the tv and we just put it on music for him. And he lost any interest in trying to find food he could tolerate. Its taken me this long to figure that is most likely the 'plan'. They just lay quietly in a morphine stupor and go. I am relatively certain I would rather hop off a cliff with my mind in tact....but that's me. He was the kind of person who would be ok with that...I'm not. No more strange dreams along those lines...this place...seems to be changing...doesn't feel as homey as it did...I'm not sure why but it's just not feeling encouraging any more
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Post by jcurio on Jan 9, 2018 12:44:59 GMT -6
Thanks for replying. 😊
I’d like to say that I’m glad your friend is still alive..... but I don’t know how he feels about it. !
Yes, spinal cord damage and all those vulnerabilities that go with it are huge. Every now and then a good movie comes out that tries to depict some of the struggle.
From an outsider telling the story- there was a big production movie out in the last few years about a girl hired to help out, and the guy and her fell in love. But just before they met he had gone to someone and “made a deal” for assisted death in 2 yrs. He followed that through. Never mind that he left her a “tidy sum” to find herself...... it’s not like that in real life.
My mom and I were talking the other day, about REALLY how fortunate our family has been. (She pointed out that we had no down-syndrome babies; I would have NEVER included that in the list because they bring so much more into families!). No near fatal accidents but left with horrible bodies, and only one family member to suffer horribly with cancer and then die from it. (We do have family with cancer).
Do you know the story of Joni Earcksson Totta? (spelling?). Skiing accident and has gotten married since and paints; etc.etc. Her book (and movie) came out when I was young, and I was very surprised to hear recently of her again. 😊
Good to see You, Jo!
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Post by whatwouldyousuggest on Jan 9, 2018 17:20:12 GMT -6
What they say in the movies isn't too close to reality. One of the hardest is the constant urinary tract infections and the body getting used to the antibiotics to the point where there are none left. Infection will kill him eventually but he was told he wouldn't ever make it to 30 and he's in his 50's. He can only be up in his wheel chair 6 hours a day the rest has to be lying flat. Dangerous to cook...if you can't feel the pain of a burn...etc. I was his care giver for 2 years before he married someone he had known years before...who oddly enough was one of his patients. He is a brain trauma specialist and she had lost her left frontal lobe when I semi hit her bike. She is amazing and a lesson that the brain will survive. They told her parents she'd never walk or talk again...she not only walks and talks...but wrote a teaching manual on working with brain trauma children. She teaches them. So...these remarkable people were not quitters...they took what life gave them and ran with it..and we..the physically enabled...do what??? Yeah. We whine and moan and let ourselves go etc. I have always been so very impressed with them both. Emotionally...the embarrassment he's had to learn to live with when people have to help him use the toilet or change his catheter...he just goes somewhere else in his mind. And she recently had to be hospitalized when her organs sort of melted all together..they still haven't sorted that all out yet..some people deal with so much with so much grace. We share common God beliefs. You might think they would be angry but...not a bit of it. Yea I could write a book on those two...but they'd just laugh at the thought You would like him I think....he's a bit 'psychoanalizy' but that's kind of what he does for occupation. He is soothing to talk to...and God did give him the most beautiful smile.
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Post by jojustjo on Jan 12, 2018 10:52:48 GMT -6
Well I'd suggest that you change your name to something more...normal...perhaps closer to home, suck it up and get on with it. Have a nice chat with yourself about what is troubling you...the dream last night about the bar tender was cool was't it??
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Post by jcurio on Jan 12, 2018 23:49:09 GMT -6
You would like him I think....he's a bit 'psychoanalizy' but that's kind of what he does for occupation. He is soothing to talk to...and God did give him the most beautiful smile. Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/7519/dream-bugging-me#ixzz542aTc4tw******* I’m sure I would! I’d like to think that I would meet him someday! 😊 —————— Be careful with that dreaming. 😉 But at least if you dream that you’re at a bar all night, you KNOW why you wake up with a headache! 😄
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Post by jojustjo on Jan 13, 2018 0:13:46 GMT -6
I have been fortunate to know some amazing souls in my life..some exceptional ones. Like you.
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Post by bodleyfludes on Mar 8, 2021 7:45:58 GMT -6
When I used to take more interest in my dreams, I developed a technique for better remembering them. I’ve never heard anyone else suggest this, so it may just work for me. In August 1990 I had a dream and it turned out to be precognitive. I happened to remember that dream, and connected it and the eventual foreseen event (happening the very next day). It has happened often that I have ‘dreamed ahead’, but the foreseen event passed by unnoticed. Only later did I recognise the clear and obvious connection. For me, that is an odd phenomenon in itself. This sudden exciting strangeness in my life made me sit up and take notice of my dreams. I started, and for a couple of decades, began keeping a dream journal. On occasion I was having up to six separate and distinct dreams in a single night. Many dreams proved very specifically and timely, prescient. In my own case, I found it least detrimental to dream capture, that before I fell asleep, I should remind myself, to program myself if you like, to retain my dream(s) upon waking. On waking, whilst remaining in the exact position I woke in, I had to conscientiously run over each dream from end to end in my mind - all whilst remaining completely immobile. It seemed to me that before the muscles are engaged, the mind is able to linger on in dreaming/subconscious mode, even thought ‘conscious mode’ is re-woken. It seems, that as soon as you move, any recall of dreams starts to disintegrate, to drop off at the edges – that’s how it seemed to me. One has to guard against any lazy tendency to say, ‘oh, I’ll remember that, so I don’t need to go over it’. You must. At that time I had a 55mile (89Km) drive to work. My first task at the office would be to write up my dream(s) in my dream journal. It was still all there, fresh and complete, in my mind, just awaiting transcription. My untutored assumption was that my process safely transferred the content of my subconscious, dreaming, mind, with its inadequate memory, across to my conscious mind, with its very good, and accessible, memory.
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Post by bodleyfludes on Mar 8, 2021 7:48:52 GMT -6
I should also mention my belief that in taking an avid interest in my dreams, prompted the dream phenomenon to greater intensity and expression. Conversely, now the interest has waned, I don't often recall my dreams.
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