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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2012 10:21:25 GMT -6
Wow. That's really cool BW! I wonder what caused it. I'm sure, from knowing the posts you make, you've researched it and know what it is.
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Post by skywalker on Jan 16, 2012 10:44:28 GMT -6
I have never heard of anybody having the ability to "see" without using their eyes. Not unless they are related to a bat anyway. I'll have to do a little snooping around the internet and see if I can find any similar stories.
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Post by skywalker on Jan 16, 2012 11:02:55 GMT -6
I don't know if that really would be considered "seeing." It was probably more along the lines of feeling...like he felt what was going to happen before it happened and just reacted to it. I do that sometimes also. One time me and my friend were driving down the highway and he decided to punch me in the arm for some reason. I was reading a book at the time and wasn't paying attention but somehow I managed to block his punch without even realizing I had done it. I just felt it and reacted to it. That's what you call using the Force. Now if I only knew how I did it...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2012 11:04:15 GMT -6
The force is with you Skywalker. ~smirk~
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2012 11:04:50 GMT -6
Oh oh wait... "Force" should be capitalized... that's right... it's always capitalized in Star Wars novels...
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Post by lois on Jan 16, 2012 12:56:43 GMT -6
Sky I can see everything with my mind in the past, I don't know how one sees at the moment without sight.
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Post by bewildered on Jan 16, 2012 15:10:37 GMT -6
Wow. That's really cool BW! I wonder what caused it. I'm sure, from knowing the posts you make, you've researched it and know what it is. No, I sure don't. The only thing that approximates that very weird experience is " clairvoyance:" 1: the power or faculty of discerning objects not present to the senses; 2: ability to perceive matters beyond the range of ordinary perception. If this never happened to me, I would quite frankly dismiss it entirely as a product of the imagination. In fact, if I hadn't the opportunity to put it to the test while it was taking place, I would still dismiss it. Calling any of this "psychic" really makes me uncomfortable, because in my experience 99.99% of so-called psychics are nothing more than charlatans or self-deluded people. Some mean well, while others are nothing but con artists preying upon the vulnerable. There's no denying I have had these experiences (I wish I could, really, but I strive to be as honest with myself as I can be). Fortunately I'm neither a drinker nor a drug user, so my grasp on reality has no reason to be questioned much when these things take place. Even so, I still do as one needs to cover all the bases. I'm lucid and aware, so when they start to happen I'm sometimes somewhat shocked at the onset. I'm quite sure there's a rational basis for these kinds of things. Until we can be sure of such a basis, however, I'm not about to pretend as if I know anything beyond the realm of what I have experienced. There is no question in my mind that we as human beings are much more aware of our environment that we believe ourselves to be...but how that actually works is a mystery to me. Trust me...if any of this was something I had any sort of control over, I would head straight to a university and subject it all to scientific study and analysis. As it is, researchers would have to observe me in ordinary life 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year in order to be there when something weird occurs.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2012 19:50:14 GMT -6
This has always been the way I feel when standing sitting or walking. Once in 1981, my sister loaned me her neck brace she had to wear from a auto accident. I was amazed, at how good it felt. Something was holding my neck up. It was such a relief . . Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=encounters&action=display&thread=763&page=5#ixzz1jfwPqzKHOh yes . I purchased one of these at the local drug store YEARS ago. Something like a Walgreens, or Osco, in their cane section, and recently asked my dr. if I could wear it. He said it "wouldn't hurt". Another dr. told me years ago (after my purchase), that no, I shouldn't wear it as my neck muscles would only grow weaker. So, ask your dr. Lois ;D . I find that it holds my neck at the proper angle while I am on the computer. I even wore it to bed once to see if it would keep me from grinding my teeth (didn't want to put a teeth guard in my mouth). It did! Of course I couldn't wear it all night; too uncomfortable. Fortunately I no longer grind my teeth. Instead, I move my feet, ankles, and clench my toes. (Probably a good thing I'm not married ). Lois, what do they call your "brain damage"? All I got from reading so far was that possibly your "wires are crossed". Did I miss a diagnosis somewhere? Thanks
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Post by lois on Jan 16, 2012 23:34:42 GMT -6
I have the MRI report in my desk. First I have white lesions on the brain, I'm sure it lies somewhere in the pages of Lois's experiences on this forum.. Also it states that the gray matter is where the white matter should be and the white matter is where the gray matter should be. I think this is very funny sometimes.. Is this in the same location in all human being? What would it do to you if it was reversed. I don't think my Neurologist knows why or what the consequences might mean..
Then there is something about the pons in the brain. Not sure what it meant. I will re read it and post again later.
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Post by lois on Jan 16, 2012 23:46:03 GMT -6
The largest lesions are on the audio nerves.. I seen photos of such a thing. It appears the skin has been pealed off and actually the nerve could be partly cut but not completely cut in half. I read some where. If a lesion slices clear through this nerve the patience would go death. Of course they would.
I had a second spinal tap after a few years . They said .. these lesions have not worsen. I told them since 1972 they have not become more damage, they probably never will . NO MORE SPINAL TAPS. Those things will give you all kinds of damages.
I know exactly what my systems were after the encounter and they have not worsen in 40 years. I know how I have felt. The only time it was worse was after the spinal taps. And I'm not over the last one yet. I was doing well for the last two years prior to it. .The last one was about 18 months ago. I was at mufonia then.
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Post by lois on Jan 17, 2012 0:16:28 GMT -6
There was a member on the Mufon forum who gave me a name of someone who also believed she had brain damage from a ufo encounter.. I did get in touch with her. In fact she worked for mufon, this is how she became so interested and lead her to mufon. I will not tell her name here. She was absolutely sure it was the aliens.. One knows when they are young and perfectly healthy, then wakes up with all the systems after their encounter. I have not spoke to her but only a few time through our e-mails.
I'm sure she is still dedicated.. Doing all she can.. Seemed like a very nice woman.
I never heard of people with this condition only the radiation cases, which do terrible damage. I don't believe I had come in contact with any radiation. No burns or stomach problems , lose of hair, etc.
You cannot tell anyone in the medical profession.. " Oh by the way a ufo ship or its occupants did all this to me" It would not change my condition or help in anyway. Only to satisfy my questions about the four hours missing time. The fact that my condition is what it is, scares me to death if I had to relive it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2012 0:20:27 GMT -6
I don't blame you Lois. I wouldn't want to know either if that happened to me... God only knows what they did to your brain... ~hugz~
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Post by lois on Jan 17, 2012 0:34:20 GMT -6
This has always been the way I feel when standing sitting or walking. Once in 1981, my sister loaned me her neck brace she had to wear from a auto accident. I was amazed, at how good it felt. Something was holding my neck up. It was such a relief . . Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=encounters&action=display&thread=763&page=5#ixzz1jfwPqzKHOh yes . I purchased one of these at the local drug store YEARS ago. Something like a Walgreens, or Osco, in their cane section, and recently asked my dr. if I could wear it. He said it "wouldn't hurt". Another dr. told me years ago (after my purchase), that no, I shouldn't wear it as my neck muscles would only grow weaker. So, ask your dr. Lois ;D . I find that it holds my neck at the proper angle while I am on the computer. I even wore it to bed once to see if it would keep me from grinding my teeth (didn't want to put a teeth guard in my mouth). It did! Of course I couldn't wear it all night; too uncomfortable. Fortunately I no longer grind my teeth. Instead, I move my feet, ankles, and clench my toes. (Probably a good thing I'm not married ). Lois, what do they call your "brain damage"? All I got from reading so far was that possibly your "wires are crossed". Did I miss a diagnosis somewhere? Thanks I only wore it off and on during the day. Like when I bend over or reaching up for objects. This is when I would put more strain on my neck. I sleep with a feathered pillow. I can put it the way I want to against my shoulder, head and neck. The big fat foamy things I hate. You can not twist and punch them to your comfort. ;D At home before I was married I slept on a feather mattress and pillow . I never did change from the pillow. But the mattress was like sleeping in a big hole in the middle. ;D Don't see how two people like George Washington and his wife slept on those darn things. You would both roll to the middle, like my sister and I did when she came home from College in Chicago. ;D Sorry my reply is backward to this post ..
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Post by lois on Jan 17, 2012 0:36:38 GMT -6
I don't blame you Lois. I wouldn't want to know either if that happened to me... God only knows what they did to your brain... ~hugz~ They took my memories Lorelei. ;D Now that would take four hours. ;D
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Post by lois on Jan 17, 2012 0:51:04 GMT -6
I've often wondered if they took me into outer space but I think I would be dead for sure. 9000 miles and hour would kill us humans. I get this 9000 from some analysts reports from videos over the years.
I have had a few dreams I was on another planet as one could tell by looking at the heavens there at night . Everything was wrong about it. A little too much light. More than one moon. Also nothing but hard rock is what I was walking on.. Like it was not inhabited. Two beings were walking besides me, but I would not look to either side to see what or who they were. I did look up. Also the heavenly bodies seem to be much closer somehow. Almost like you could reach out and touch them. A very strange dream.
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Post by bewildered on Jan 18, 2012 10:51:34 GMT -6
I think it takes a good measure of intestinal fortitude to admit - first to yourself, then to others - that strange and sometimes baffling experiences happen in life. Cowardice can stuff a person into a nifty little corner wherein they derive comfort in believing they are regarded as "sane and rational" by other people they label peers.
That's all well and good if you require the approval of others to validate your existence. Some of us, however, don't require the approval of others to go about our business and live our lives. We don't need to be members of a club in order to garner pats on the back for adhering to the program. We're honest enough to admit that life is a mystery, and wise enough to refrain from believing that we know it all. If you understand everything there is possibly to know in this universe, then please enlighten the deluded, unwashed masses who perceive this life as an often enigmatic mystery. True - some things are perfectly ordinary and easily understandable. Yet once in a while we encounter a item that doesn't seem to fit in the box. It's the height of folly to dismiss what you do not understand. By doing so, you only reveal a shallow pond occupying the space between your ears.
I refer to some disparaging comments I have read on cyberspace concerning both this forum and some of the members who post here. Sneering, snide, and insulting commentary concerning people they don't really know doesn't say very much about the ones making those sorts of comments. Far from proving that anyone here is "loony," you only manage to furnish evidence that you're a mannerless, small-minded twit...the sort that hangs out in packs in schools, bullying kids who are different from you.
If this being read by one of those nameless buffoons, swallow this: are you interested in the truth? Or, is it all just a game to you? If you're actually not a maladjusted sociopath or budding narcissist, then take a look in the mirror. If you have the slightest shred of honesty left in your primate brain, then take heed of your own behavior and actions before you act like a psychopathic troll. Just sayin'.
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Yesterday at work I got a premonition that we were going to have an earthquake and I told my co-worker about it. She flew into a tizzy and started babbling about how that sort of thing was against her religion and all of that. She went and whined to the manager about it and my manager told me I can't talk about that at work anymore because it was "offensive" to my co-worker's religion. Well... we had an earthquake last night. A small one. ~rolls eyes~ According to the recent earthquakes in Alaska website we've had three small earthquakes in this area... one of them just an hour ago. I think a bigger one is coming... You see... that's what I get for warning people of something that's going to happen. I get in trouble and get chewed out for it. Ah this world we live in today. I wonder if people told all the biblical prophets that they were offending their religious beliefs by talking about premonitions.
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Post by lois on Jan 18, 2012 12:26:41 GMT -6
You have been having a lot of snow up there in Alaska.. I seen on TV, they were trying to take provisions into some town. is this place near Fairbanks?
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You have been having a lot of snow up there in Alaska.. I seen on TV, they were trying to take provisions into some town. is this place near Fairbanks? I think that was Nome Lois. That's fairly far up North... not very close to us at all. We got a lot of snow too.. but not as much as the people who live along the coast...
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Post by skywalker on Jan 18, 2012 13:25:45 GMT -6
I refer to some disparaging comments I have read on cyberspace concerning both this forum and some of the members who post here. Sneering, snide, and insulting commentary concerning people they don't really know doesn't say very much about the ones making those sorts of comments. Far from proving that anyone here is "loony," you only manage to furnish evidence that you're a mannerless, small-minded twit...the sort that hangs out in packs in schools, bullying kids who are different from you. If this being read by one of those nameless buffoons, swallow this: are you interested in the truth? Or, is it all just a game to you? If you're actually not a maladjusted sociopath or budding narcissist, then take a look in the mirror. If you have the slightest shred of honesty left in your primate brain, then take heed of your own behavior and actions before you act like a psychopathic troll. Just sayin'. I didn't know there were any nameless buffoons on other sites who were criticizing our innocent little forum...other than Ufomania which no longer exists. What sites are these?
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Swell..seems lots of people out there have way too much time on their hands if they're bothering to be critical of lil ole us-ins.
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Post by bewildered on Jan 18, 2012 20:35:46 GMT -6
I didn't know there were any nameless buffoons on other sites who were criticizing our innocent little forum...other than Ufomania which no longer exists. What sites are these? They'll remain nameless, because they really don't deserve anything else. It's a waste of time and energy to try and confront them. You'll lose valubale moments of your life if you try...time you'll never be able to recover.
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"Two beings were walking besides me, but I would not look to either side to see what or who they were. " Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=encounters&thread=763&page=6#21865#ixzz1jsZxtjAn______________________________________________________________________________ This is how it is with me. Except it is one being to the side of me. I know someone is there, and I don't try to look at them at all. There is no desire to. They are taking me "viewing". In my dreams. What an interesting event you talk about above, bewildered. I have "felt" like I was asleep laying somewhere, and could still see every thing around me, and then I've read somewhere that if a person is doing an astral projection they should be able to also look at themselves laying there. But actually seeing from myself, through closed eyelids? Wow. Probably the closest thing I've ever even remotely had, was seeing detail because my vision was somehow "brighter". People on teor have mentioned maybe waking up one day and for some reason things are "brighter"; I can't recall exactly how they put it, but it was noticeable and rare. I have this every now and then. It does catch my attention because it's like looking at a simple tree and seeing each leaf as itself in all its different shapes and colors of beauty. To me, the best example is trees, and especially if you picture the "rain scene" in the Walt Disney movie , Bambi.
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Post by god on Jan 19, 2012 8:39:02 GMT -6
I think it takes a good measure of intestinal fortitude to admit - first to yourself, then to others - that strange and sometimes baffling experiences happen in life. Cowardice can stuff a person into a nifty little corner wherein they derive comfort in believing they are regarded as "sane and rational" by other people they label peers. That's all well and good if you require the approval of others to validate your existence. Some of us, however, don't require the approval of others to go about our business and live our lives. We don't need to be members of a club in order to garner pats on the back for adhering to the program. We're honest enough to admit that life is a mystery, and wise enough to refrain from believing that we know it all. If you understand everything there is possibly to know in this universe, then please enlighten the deluded, unwashed masses who perceive this life as an often enigmatic mystery. True - some things are perfectly ordinary and easily understandable. Yet once in a while we encounter a item that doesn't seem to fit in the box. It's the height of folly to dismiss what you do not understand. By doing so, you only reveal a shallow pond occupying the space between your ears. I refer to some disparaging comments I have read on cyberspace concerning both this forum and some of the members who post here. Sneering, snide, and insulting commentary concerning people they don't really know doesn't say very much about the ones making those sorts of comments. Far from proving that anyone here is "loony," you only manage to furnish evidence that you're a mannerless, small-minded twit...the sort that hangs out in packs in schools, bullying kids who are different from you. If this being read by one of those nameless buffoons, swallow this: are you interested in the truth? Or, is it all just a game to you? If you're actually not a maladjusted sociopath or budding narcissist, then take a look in the mirror. If you have the slightest shred of honesty left in your primate brain, then take heed of your own behavior and actions before you act like a psychopathic troll. Just sayin'. Bewilder, I have to strongly disagree with you. Humankind, by nature and “design” IS gregarious and by definition, whether you believe it or not, as social creatures, approval and acceptance of your behavior and traits by other of the same specie is part of your most cherished values. Only a hermit may fall off from this definition. A very recent and living proof of this is the fact that YOU needed to post your feelings about the negative comments that others made about your immediate group of people that share your same interests and as a sort of “defense” act and in search of “approval” and recognition of your well intended act of “protecting” this group. And if you insist that you don’t need approval of other, why are you expecting those “nameless buffoons” to read your post? And how is it that your post makes you any better than the ones that you are criticizing? GOD
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Bewilder, I have to strongly disagree with you. Humankind, by nature and “design” IS gregarious and by definition, whether you believe it or not, as social creatures, approval and acceptance of your behavior and traits by other of the same specie is part of your most cherished values. Only a hermit may fall off from this definition. Straw man. It's rather simple, really. One starts by thinking for themselves. What follows has a tendency to fall into place the more you engage in thinking for yourself. A neat concept, and it works in real life. Building a straw man by insisting that *you* know intimate details that dictate how people must act or behave doesn't fly. We all know the general details of human social capacity and desire. It's a framework, not a compulsion. Thinking for yourself and leading a fulfilling life isn't all that difficult. No hermitage required. If you actually knew such intimate details you would have never engaged in straw man building, now would you? Human beings are quite capable of independent action apart from groups. Straw man. Your opinion, and nothing more. You neither have a window into my thoughts, my motivations, nor why I do anything. You're free to guess and indulge in conjecture, of course. How many times do I brush my teeth every day? What consumes the majority of my time and energy lately? If you can answer either question accurately, I'll change my opinion of your straw man to an exercise in playing Devil's Advocate. I'm game, since that's a single player game I indulge in frequently. Ah, but everyone knows that GOD is the Devil's Advocate in the first place. End of the straw man. Perhaps you should consider returning to deity school, my friend? You might discover that despite your best efforts to appear knowledgable, authoritative, and wise, you're not much different than anyone else. That's not an insult by any means. I'm not one to shrink away from an opportunity to peer into the mirror. I often don't like what I see. It's a risk I take each time I decide to initate action. In this case, it's a risk I'm willing to take. To answer your questions in a direct manner: And if you insist that you don’t need approval of other, why are you expecting those “nameless buffoons” to read your post?That is illogical. I do not seek the approval of the nameless buffoons. If I was seeking their approval, then why would I describe their unsavory selves in such an unsavory manner? I don't have to *expect* them to read my post. I *know* that they will. How? Because...starting with ufomania (and in the case of one nameless buffoon, the old MUFON forum), these nameless buffoons have kept tabs on some of the membership here. They have referred to them directly in their posts on other forums, calling them all sorts of insulting names. Recently, a link to this forum was furnished on one of those other forums. Do the math, GOD. Surely you can? You're supposed to know everything. And how is it that your post makes you any better than the ones that you are criticizing?I don't recall asserting that I was "better" than anyone else at any point in time. Perhaps your "deity vision" saw far ahead to some future event wherein I do such a thing? Nay. However, my post is most certainly more coherent, grammatically correct, and factually accurate than anything those nameless buffoons can manage to spew forth in cyberspace. Sentence fragmentation...adjective and adverb sins...poor spelling and atrocious grammar...all coupled with a vitriolic hatred of this forum and those who post here. Far from being as intelligent as they claim to be, they only manage to come across as teenaged punks with a chip on their shoulder. skywalker, lorelei, jokelly, auntym, Steve...these are people who are not only worth sticking up for, but they are not people who are in the habit of labeling others "loony," "desperate," "idiotic," etc. The world is not black and white. There aren't even shades of gray. The world is alive with vibrant color, interspersed with regions of shadow and even darkness. Some colors mingle and bleed together. I appreciate the devil's advocate, but there are times when one needs to either say or do something (depending upon the medium in question, of course). I'm not in the habit of firing my guns that often...so when I do, rest assured it's for what I deem to be a worthwhile cause. I have my blemishes and faults like everyone else (including you) in this life. I will, however, do what I think is best and expedient. If you don't like it, I suggest you go sulk in a nebula for a while, "GOD."
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. . .about the negative comments that others made about your immediate group of people that share your same interests and as a sort of “defense” act and in search of “approval” and recognition of your well intended act of “protecting” this group. GOD "Dirt" is attractive, isn't it ? By your posting here, little g, I realize that I must have forgotten my manners. Welcome to our club! (Please wipe off your dirt on the welcome mat) ;D
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~hugz Bewildered~ I appreciate the concern for us here BW. The way I see it though, I don't care what those other guys are saying about us. They are cowards if they can't say it to our faces. Cowards who are hiding in their own little corner with their tails between their legs. Out of sight, out of mind. I'm not going to go looking for these buffoons and their moronic comments. I mean- if I want to read moronic comments posted by buffoons all I have to do is browse facebook. There are a lot of them in this world. Let them believe what they want. I believe what I believe. If they don't like it, it's their problem, not mine. If they feel the need to spew about us and our beliefs and laugh at us, they are welcome to do so in their own little cowering corner. It doesn't bother me in the least. It seems the teachings of Jesus have gone out the window in recent times. You know... "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" and all of that. Ahh well. And what about the teachings of our founding fathers? All men are created equal and all of that. The Golden Rule: Do unto others as you will have them do unto you. I think it IS time for the apocalypse. There are so many people around now who are lost in their ways and lost to The Lord. There is so much cruelty, adversity, and hatred in this world- and it is not just on the internet but everywhere. Violence, people strangling one another, beating one another and tying one another up with ropes and chains instead of making love... Children running around loose while their mommy is talking on her cell phone while punctuating every sentence with the "f" word. When a man finds me attractive he does not approach me with a smile and a nod and say, "That's a lovely sweater you're wearing, would you like to have dinner with me sometime?" Instead he tosses a wadded up piece of paper at me which contains the words, "Mmmm babee I lik wut I C. TXT me XXX-XXX-XXXX." Either that or he will exclaim, "Day-UM!!!" as I walk past as though I were a piece of meat with no feelings or intelligence. Can't we all just get along and agree to disagree? Isn't it about time for people to start acting like normal mature adults? Nope. Not a chance in Hades. People insist on indulging themselves in their animal instincts. They are selfish, rude, and cruel. They are- quite literally creating their own little hell on earth. Sorry to take over your thread Bewildered, but this is something I have been thinking about a lot lately...
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