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Post by Steve on Oct 20, 2011 13:14:58 GMT -6
I'm trying to understand the dynamics of these meetings. I read the last paragraph and thought it referred to Steve. But in reading the previous posting, it was Mary who received a welcome and lasting gift - a "letter of introduction". So. Are the questions posed Mary's or Steve's? Or do you both agree to what is going to be asked?? It feels like it is winding down. Is that your impression? Here's a question that I don't think was answered - for people who believe/interpret their life histories as a series of reconnections, re-abductions or re-contact - is that usual? Are people marked in some way to way their finding easier? The telepathic version of a radio collar?? Or even a mark that an individual had already been sampled or influenced in some way? Those weird implants that don't seem to pan out?? Many people here have a history of what they interpret as contact in their early and middle years and not later. Is that usual practice? Are we less useful when we are too old to provide ova or sperm, or maybe our brains are less flexible?? Or??? How do you feel about all the above Steve? Do you feel energized after a session? Tired? Puzzled? Any fear in there somewhere?? Hi Paulette, Wonderful questions. For one it allows to explain more fully as best I can understand it at least. I do not get the impression it is winding down at all. It seems Mary has a vast number of questions. I wonder if it will ever end. I have the opportunity to submit any questions. Mary asks me if I have any prior to a session, and faithfully includes them each time. About half the time I seem to submit to her one or more questions. Usually one to three. The other half of the time, I submit no questions. 90 to 95% of the questions are Mary's. I have no prior knowledge what these questions will be at all till they are posed during the sessions. One portion of this particular transcript was edited out. It was two specific medical questions submitted to Mary by an physician beforehand. The physician does not know who the person (me) is in the sessions. The answers to the Medical Doctor's questions were very interesting. I would like to post the two questions and Han's answers, but I wish to have permission first, and for no other reason. The questions regarded diet and stress in relation to longevity. I 'Steve' tend to describe during my induction in the beginning what I maybe seeing. I seem to be usually describing a setting either Han, or Mary has suggested. Other than that, in the dynamics of these meetings with Han, it has always been conversations between Mary and Han. I am very comfortable with Mary's questions. What I find fascinating to me in the dynamics of all this is how I find myself sometimes disagreeing with Han's answers! It makes me wonder during this process who or what is conversing with Mary so pleasantly. For instance, I disagree with Han completely about Bob Lazar. I think based on the information I have read he is a fraud. Han seems to be saying he is for real, along with 'S4'. Am I in contact communicating truly with a wholly separate and individual personality after all? Or does my conscious have one answer, and my subconscious a completely different answer? If the second question here is so, then should I be wondering about my own sanity? I asked Mary who has worked in psychiatric hospitals as a nurse, she says I am quite sane. Maybe being able to ask these questions in the first place is indicative of that I hope. Throughout this whole process, my one reasonable question has always been in the back of my mind who is really speaking here? Mary has experience with such sessions, and she seems to have no doubt it is the personality Han. So the letter of introduction was to Mary from Han. Not to me, or from me as best I can interpret. Though I am sure 'Steve' might be included in there somewhere I would hope. I think so. Part of the fascination and attraction to me is how personable Han is, and forthcoming. I do not necessarily believe it. I wonder if Hans thoughts are my own, or truly separately his. Some of what is described I do not fully know consciously. But I wonder too if I could have read all this somewhere, and forgotten it. I don't think so....but. If so this is what is refered to as Cryptomnesia. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CryptomnesiaIt is striking to me when Han gives answers contrary to how I would have answered. Such as the Bob Lazar question particularly. I feel no fear at all during these sessions. Part of this is due to Mary would never allow it, if it came to that. The sessions last anywhere from 90 minutes to two hours. Sometimes I feel tired at the end. Mary seems to sense this as is her expected role monitoring everything, and concludes the session and brings me back. She closes as if waking me from a sleep, yet I am fully aware of everything. She calls to me 'Steve?' ...and brings me back, "eyes opening...", 'eyes open!' . I feel fine and relaxed. As if I am a test pilot that has just landed. Mary is standing on the ladder, my canopy is slid back and I am taking my helmet off, rubbing my head. Mary asking how was it? We then discuss after the session certain points that impressed us. After the session ends, in a few days I receive Mary's email with the transcription of the session. I then go over it, editing. Usually it is always contracting Han's sentences. And assuring the meaning Han intended is still there. For example, Mary might mistakenly type 'can't' when Han was relating 'can'. Simple things. Also the sentences drag on in the transcript because I am induced. A few times, the sentences are repeated. Reading this back would get very tiresome for readers. It does for me. I am left after the sessions with a gentle pervasive feeling of well being and peace. This maybe due both to the subject matter, and the hypnotic session themselves are very relaxing. After the Sunday session, I am often considering some of the things I remember. It can be mind expanding if much of what is described by Han were to be true. There is nothing profound or Cecile B. De Mille here about all this. Han when I am induced seems easily accessible, and always seems to be available with unlimited time for us at his disposal. Steve
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Post by spotless38 on Oct 20, 2011 14:34:28 GMT -6
Hi Steve . When this session is done with you Mary and Han . If you ( and Mary ) decide to write a book on this I defiantly would like to get a copy or two . I have read other books like this but not as in the complete detail that you wrote . It would be a keepsake for years to come . AWESOME . Ron
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Post by Steve on Oct 20, 2011 14:47:35 GMT -6
It is for a book. Another hypnotherapst as expressed the same thing, she wanted to be the first in line to buy one. Each new session opens new territory. Maybe that is why I used the test pilot analogy in my previous post. I am working on several more illustrations for the book too. I am happy if also surprised myself at the interest about this. Thank you.
I wonder if what we are doing was perhaps the way Ufology should have embarked instead? It is certainly new and controversial. Nothing here directly seems to ever be possible to be really proved or can be demonstrated scientifically by the rules of science admittedly. I concede that early on. This seems to be some kind of unexplored twilight zone between science and faith. Yet it is honestly neither. Maybe this is were the aliens are hiding?
What would be a good title for the book? A serious title please. But please allow me only to scoff at all this humorously, 'My favorite Zeta Rectilian'? ;D
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Post by spotless38 on Oct 20, 2011 14:55:21 GMT -6
It is for a book. Another hypnotherapst as expressed the same thing, she wanted to be the first in line to buy one. Each new session opens new territory. Maybe that is why I used the test pilot analogy in my previous post. I am working on several more illustrations for the book too. I am happy if also surprised myself at the interest about this. Thank you. What would be a good title for the book? A serious title please. Please allow me only to scoff at all this humorously, 'My favorite Zeta Reticlian'? ;D Steve Steve I haven't thought about a title . But what comes to mind is " A meeting with Han in the paranormal Who is he ? " Another one is " Who is He ? Or what is he ? " Ron
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Post by skywalker on Oct 20, 2011 17:20:19 GMT -6
I haven't really been taking part in this thread because I'm still not sure what to make of it yet. I'm not quite ready to accept that this Han dude is real, although I think that anything is possible. It could also just as easily be a figment of Steve's imagination or an extension of his subconscious. Hypnosis works in mysterious ways that people have yet to come to understand. On the other hand my own experiences have taught me that there may very well be some "cosmic consciousness" that we humans may tap into at times. At the very least I think this is an interesting experiment. When we did our little group meditation experiment on the old forum I was initially very skeptical about it as well, but after trying it and seeing the results I was forced to open my mind a little. The first time we did it I felt an energy flowing through me unlike anything I had ever felt before, and throughout the course of it I noticed that there were many people who had visions that were eerily similar to one another. On one occasion Jo and I even saw the exact same thing even though we were several thousand miles apart! This leads me to believe that maybe there is something out there...(God, ET, The Force?)...that we can sometimes communicate with. Could this be what "Han" is a part of? On other occasions I have sometimes had premonitions or visions of future events before they happened, some of which happened in exact detail, or that were changed in only minor ways. To me it seems as if someone or some thing is giving me warnings about possible future situations that may be dangerous for me. It's like somebody is looking out for me. Could it be "Han" and his "people" who are giving them? Like I said before, anything is possible. I developed my so-called "Psychic abilities" after the first abduction experience that I had more than two decades ago. Personally, I believe that everybody has these abilities to a certain extent, they are just more pronounced in some people than in others. They were definitely more pronounced in me after the abduction. Recently, over the past few years, I have been toying with the idea of actually attempting to use them to "make contact" with whatever it is that is out there. I have casually experimented with it a few times with some very interesting results but my apprehension about what might actually happen has always made me pull back a little. That's why I am interested in reading about Steve's hypnosis sessions. Steve hasn't had any traumatic abduction experiences that he can recall so he does not have the fear and anxiety that a lot of the rest of us feel. As far as I know he also does not have any psychic abilities either (at least not that he has ever talked about). Is it possible that hypnosis could have the same effect that these psychic abilities have? Or could it make a person more aware of the hidden abilities that they have inside them? Is it possible that by undergoing hypnosis, and therefor removing much of the conscious thought processes that might serve as distractions, could a person actually reach out and make telepathic contact with whatever is out there? It is an interesting thought. I wonder what would happen if a person who has pronounced psychic abilities were to be hypnotized? Would those abilities be even more pronounced than before? Lots of intriguing questions...
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Post by skywalker on Oct 20, 2011 17:27:27 GMT -6
As for book title suggestions I have a few... The Alien in Me
Interview With an Alien
Making Contact
A Cosmic ConversationI kind of like the last one the best. Maybe it could even be A Cosmic Conversation: Interview With an Alien. I'll see if I can come up with some more.
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Post by auntym on Oct 20, 2011 18:31:01 GMT -6
What would be a good title for the book? A serious title please. But please allow me only to scoff at all this humorously, 'My favorite Zeta Rectilian'? ;D Steve ...... . i got one...... how about.... MY LEFT HAN ..... ;D sorry steve....i tried to stop myself.... how about: MY FRIEND HAN HAN & ME .... MESSAGES FROM HAN
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Post by Steve on Oct 20, 2011 19:56:29 GMT -6
Never had any abduction experiences. I know I am not psychic. I know I do not regard myself as anything special in this regard. I think most of us could do the same thing. Hypnosis is really nothing more than a process of deep relaxation and focused concentration. It is definitely not a loss of consciousness. You are aware of the hypnotist and of things going on around you in the room. If you have ever done relaxation exercises or listened to relaxation tapes, the process of hypnosis will feel very familiar to you. When you are under hypnosis, you yourself decide what to reveal and what not to reveal. You can refuse to answer questions if you are not feeling prepared to discuss the memories. You can ask to come out of hypnosis at any time. I like one of the titles so far. I knew AuntyM would not be able to resist some fun pokes. Steve
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2011 20:21:51 GMT -6
I'm quite fond of skywalker's idea, "The Alien in Me". That one seems like a really good one.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2011 21:02:55 GMT -6
And I love all those questions sky is putting out there.....
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Post by paulette on Oct 21, 2011 9:11:47 GMT -6
OK...so I don't think I've got the set up yet (and I'm still curious). You and Mary talk before the session - by phone. Is that right? (and have you met Mary in person?). Then who asks the questions? Mary? So are Han's answers coming from your mouth/mind? And meanwhile she is recording and later transcribing this event?
Do you sound differently than the usual "you". (When I was hypnotised and regressed to my life in Texas I began speaking in with a Texas drawl, in spite of having eradicated it while living in Canada. I often do if I'm speaking to a Texan, "pick it up" again but this time I did it without cues.) You said you correct grammar and such - does that mean that you remember speaking every word? Or are the concepts now firmly yours to access in memory?
Does Mary "get" anything different than you? Are both of your versions of the event the same?
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Post by Steve on Oct 21, 2011 13:22:42 GMT -6
OK...so I don't think I've got the set up yet (and I'm still curious). You and Mary talk before the session - by phone. Is that right? (and have you met Mary in person?). Then who asks the questions? Mary? So are Han's answers coming from your mouth/mind? And meanwhile she is recording and later transcribing this event? Do you sound differently than the usual "you". (When I was hypnotised and regressed to my life in Texas I began speaking in with a Texas drawl, in spite of having eradicated it while living in Canada. I often do if I'm speaking to a Texan, "pick it up" again but this time I did it without cues.) You said you correct grammar and such - does that mean that you remember speaking every word? Or are the concepts now firmly yours to access in memory? Does Mary "get" anything different than you? Are both of your versions of the event the same? Yes, she is a friend and colleague having met Mary many times working with her and abductee cases both in the field and at her residence. The thread 'an afternoon with George Lobuono' showing photos of George talking were taken by me at Mary's home. We talk over the phone conducting these Han sessions, as we are separated by 90 minutes one way travel from each other by car. I have a flat rate for my long distance phone service, free long distance within the United States. We catch up on what is happening with us briefly before a session, and she inducts me over the phone. I have no prior knowledge what her questions will be. Mary asks the questions, I am relaxed usually on a sofa alone in my living room, my head on a pillow with the phone receiver between my pillow and my left ear. "So are Han's answers coming from your mouth/mind? And meanwhile she is recording and later transcribing this event? " Yes. My voice probably sounds a bit monotone during the sessions. I must also sometimes reverse my nouns and verbs (German like). Maybe it is being half Swiss? It would have to be something genetic then , never been to Switzerland sadly. The concepts are remembered when I read the text back in editing. I do not change much in wording. I assure the concept is accurate, and sentences are shortened to be more concise only. Sometimes I notice Han will pause to search for a word during a session, a word I know readily, that the personality Han has trouble finding. This is rare, but interesting. The word chosen by Han might be subtly awkward for fluent conversation, but is suitable for understanding. He sometimes quotes human phrases such as 'playing with fire' , or 'pecking order' like he did in the last session. Sometimes Han in our sessions is not alone, and another being like him will seem to be accompanying him. Mary has asked in consideration to them if they have any questions for her. I think any questions are usually expressed telepathically through Han. I hear them faintly, and it is repeated clearly through Han. I think this has happened only once or twice early on. I was told by Mary later the physician was excited by the answers Han gave back about his first two questions. Mary has told me she has been given three new medical questions for her to ask in the next session. As always, I have no idea what the questions are yet. Mary wrote yesterday to me... commenting... "The day after our session I felt 2 points of pressure on my head. I think it had something to do with "lights" for contact. Being a medium, I feel someone touching my hair every now and then, but never at 2 points at the same time." Mary seems always tuned into some added aspects I am unaware of. Whether this had to do with that letter of introduction or not I cannot be sure. As for the Texas drawl, can't help you with that. I guess you can get a person out of Texas, but you can never get the Texas out of the person.... Does that answer everything? That's about everything. Steve
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2011 16:23:45 GMT -6
Steve... your dad was Swiss, right?
He speaks English, right?
Maybe when you were a child you were picking up on his grammar structure and it has embedded itself in your subconscious mind. Just a thought I had. ~shrug~
Often, people who learn English as a second language to German still continue to use the Germanic word order. I know I've done this when speaking to German people in German... I use English grammar and it's not always correct. The mind is pre-programmed at an early age to recognize syntax and word order... this could be the reason.
Next time you talk to your father, pay attention to his word order. His English may have improved since your early childhood... most likely it has improved considerably... so this may not be an obvious clue...
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Post by paulette on Oct 21, 2011 19:28:59 GMT -6
These were some other questions from awhile back Steve: Here's a question that I don't think was answered - for people who believe/interpret their life histories as a series of reconnections, re-abductions or re-contact - is that usual? Are people marked in some way to way their finding easier? The telepathic version of a radio collar?? Or even a mark that an individual had already been sampled or influenced in some way? Those weird implants that don't seem to pan out?? Many people here have a history of what they interpret as contact in their early and middle years and not later. Is that usual practice? Are we less useful when we are too old to provide ova or sperm, or maybe our brains are less flexible?? Or??? Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=encounters&action=display&thread=1294&page=6#ixzz1bTBqGQ3b
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Post by Steve on Oct 22, 2011 14:23:10 GMT -6
These were some other questions from awhile back Steve: Here's a question that I don't think was answered - for people who believe/interpret their life histories as a series of re connections, re-abductions or re-contact - is that usual? Are people marked in some way to way their finding easier? The telepathic version of a radio collar?? Or even a mark that an individual had already been sampled or influenced in some way? Those weird implants that don't seem to pan out?? Many people here have a history of what they interpret as contact in their early and middle years and not later. Is that usual practice? Are we less useful when we are too old to provide ova or sperm, or maybe our brains are less flexible?? Or??? Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=encounters&action=display&thread=1294&page=6#ixzz1bTBqGQ3bI remember these earlier questions. The first question was confusing to me about life histories - re connections, re-abductions or re-contact. You infuse in one question many things I do not full understand the interrelationship between them fully yet. I would tend to see them possibly as separate, but I am not sure. Are people marked in some way for repeated visits? Sure, I think so. Are some people later in their lives no longer contacted because they may think they are too old if their purpose is to provide ova, sperm, or perhaps less flexible minds? I don't know for sure either. Some experiencers I have worked with or talked to have included some abducted after menopause. One female has had the inability to have children all her life, having had an unusual hysterectomy in her teenage years. In her descriptions of her experiences, they seem to be doing the same invasive procedures. So whatever the motive of these beings are in relation to her physiologically remains uncertain. One elderly experiencer claims to have had continued visits where she had the impression they wanted to check up on her to see if she was alright. I got the impression she may represent some kind of matriarchal legacy. Hard to really know. Since Budd passed away, some on the radio have seemed to promote themselves as abduction experts. They probably are. But I hope they are honest enough to know how much their is still to learn. They may not know truly as much as they seem to pitch they do. I am frustrated in regressions we see similar patterns in how these experiences play out. The individual circumstances are fascinating and telling, both about the abductee and the abductor...if that should be labeled that way. But we seem to come up to this wall...and no farther. To explore beyond that wall might require regressing the aliens themselves, which is not going to happen. So we explore other alternatives. Besides the Han sessions, I would like to plant mental suggestions in the form of questions for the beings when the experiencer is abducted in the future. When they down load their minds for the latest, our calling card sort of speak will be there. It has been tried before. I am not sure if any other researchers have honestly been able to climb over that wall either. Steve
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Post by paulette on Oct 22, 2011 15:51:56 GMT -6
Besides the Han sessions, I would like to plant mental suggestions in the form of questions for the beings when the experiencer is abducted in the future. When they down load their minds for the latest, our calling card sort of speak will be there. It has been tried before. I am not sure if any other researchers have honestly been able to climb over that wall either. Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=encounters&action=display&thread=1294&page=7#ixzz1bY7adYaPI like this! It gives me something positive and concrete to do. (It is also what I tried to do while caving in to fear on the night that I had my experience of whatever). As for my other question - many people including myself believe that they have had experiences that might be contact or abductions or even dream contact over and over. I wondered if Han wanted to comment on the criteria of who gets contacted - is it happenstance? Intentional due to some quality? Intentional due to a bloodline?. I guess if various alien folks are buzzing around Earth being seen here and sometimes more....Han could only answer that for the network he is in touch with. Unless he has researched or monitored what other types of ETs are doing. In short, personally, I think it is even crazier to think that I have had contact many times than possibly once. I always thought it was once until I wrote an autobiography of strange things that happened for the Mufon board and then some of my childhood memories and unusual substanciated events were cast in a different light. But if Hans breezily can say - oh yes, follow up studies are often done...then I can let what is be as is.
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Post by Steve on Oct 24, 2011 1:48:12 GMT -6
Han's session today (Session XIII) touched some of Han's species anatomy among other things.
A concern by Han about Earth's over population. Han even commented making an observation on the Bible in relation to one of Mary's questions.
Han it seems has lungs, supplemented by respiration through their skin. (why they often are not seen wearing many clothes). When they do wear clothes, it is for a specific purpose, which he describes.
Their heart's at rest beat 90 to 120 beats per minute, compared to a normal human age 40 at rest of 60 to 90 beats per minute. Some of this is due to smaller lung capacity (smaller body in general) , large brains requiring more oxygen, necessitating a faster heart rate.
Mary thought this faster heart rate flew against her own understanding, expecting to find an easier heart rate connected to their reported longevity. They have a smaller, but more complex heart, with more chambers, and much redundancy. Han reported compared to a human heart, they almost have two hearts in one. And perhaps..why not? We have two kidneys. Han confirmed his species were not meat eaters, primary a diet of fruit and vegetables. They did not hold anything against other species with broader 'food groups'. The have a liver organ of sorts, which helps both metabolize and store sugars, not too different from human livers.
Their sexual organs are less defined, since they use other means of reproduction at present. So like humans again too, they carry traits of both genders, but any gender distinction is far less distinguishable compared to humans (either physically or culturally).
A faster heart rate to supply a given volume of blood (or something like blood in function) might make sense considering their smaller bodies (smaller heart and lungs) needed to supply oxygen to what seems their proportionally larger brains perhaps?
Should have session XIII posted in a few days.
Steve
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Post by skywalker on Oct 24, 2011 9:30:53 GMT -6
Does anybody know off the top of their head what a bird's heart rate per minute is? Do smaller animals have faster heartbeats than bigger ones?
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Post by paulette on Oct 24, 2011 9:40:00 GMT -6
According to Google: heart rate of a parakeet is 400 - 600 beats per minute, that of a humming bird, 800. Other people had asked about a bald eagle but not got a response that I could find.
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Post by Steve on Oct 24, 2011 13:49:51 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2011 14:44:08 GMT -6
Hmm.. interesting...
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Post by paulette on Oct 25, 2011 16:31:40 GMT -6
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Post by Steve on Oct 25, 2011 17:00:35 GMT -6
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Post by paulette on Oct 25, 2011 19:04:10 GMT -6
Wow! I got the same message just now. And I just updated my Javascript. Hmmmmm.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2011 20:01:15 GMT -6
When I click the link, it takes me to an article about Crows...
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Post by Steve on Oct 25, 2011 20:12:28 GMT -6
That is it, the Nature program 'A murder of Crows'. The video is also on You Tube, it it works fine on the Nature web page.
Steve
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Post by skywalker on Oct 26, 2011 18:33:54 GMT -6
HAN Through Steve ___________ under Hypnosis ...Our surface structures retreated from the surface to provide an enjoyable and natural setting. Our cities moved underground, connected with the surface, but just underneath. It is a crisis your species on a planetary scale has yet to face. One that at your present rate you may not have long to wait. Our solution I have explained. In time, it was successful, and it avoided a planetary catastrophe were natural forces reduced population through disease & starvation, putting at risk even the planet itself. This left the surface to return to its more natural state. Is that what I am hearing?Yes, one result of this period of great change was also the collective realization we needed to terra form our home planet. We learned as with our other changes, it took a great sense of unity of purpose to accomplish this. We removed virtually all of our planets artificial surface structures. We rejected the old ways and returned the surface of the planet back to its original state as we had imagined it in the beginning. Yet there are great populations under the surface where each has easy access to the surface. They can enjoy the parks and the natural settings on the roofs of our cities. That is a really interesting idea and I can see that it is quite viable.This puts less stress now on our planet by restoring its own naturally occurring processes. There are more plants & forests to sustain our atmosphere now. Our plants and forests no longer have to compete with our population. Food is manufactured on the surface and under the surface as well. As a result, we live in harmony with our mother, our home world. This is an interesting idea. I recently (over the past couple of years) came to the same conclusion...it would be better to build our houses and buildings underground. Not only would there be less pollution and more space for the natural environment to grow, there would also be more farmland and a much cleaner atmosphere. Underground buildings would be much more energy efficient too since temperatures underground are relatively stable all year long. They could also tap into underground energy sources for electricity. It would be a much better system all around.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2011 20:13:43 GMT -6
That's a good idea sky...
That's how the Inuit(Eskimo) people built their homes too. It's much more energy efficient because the ground and snow provide excellent insulation. Better insulation=less fire needed.
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Post by Steve on Oct 27, 2011 17:46:26 GMT -6
HAN Through Steve ________________ under Hypnosis Therapist: Mary ________
Session XIII October 22, 2011
Steve was inducted, given some therapy and then Steve invited the being known as Han to step forward. The Therapist asked Steve to describe what he was seeing.
Has he come to join us?
Steve: Yes. Han is there.
Are we staying where we are or is he going to set up a new environment for us?
Steve: I was…..initially we were together on a stage at my old high school and we were happy to see each other but the surroundings seemed inappropriate. We have moved to your living room in our minds and we are now comfortable. We are surrounded in a very warm and comfortable setting. Han is petting your Sheltie, stroking its back and now he is sitting down in a chair. The Sheltie responds as she would to any other, enjoying the petting. He looks rather spindly & not unpleasant to look at, just different. Han’s form has its own beauty and I am more just marveling at the opportunity to experience this. His form is elegant in a very different way. His joints and hands are long and spindly. The joints in his arms are close to, but they do not have the same proportions as they would be on a human, very similar, but different. He does not look too skeleton-like but there is a little suggestion of that. He seems to be very comfortable. Each of us is in a separate chair. He is just being patient and I think he is reading our thoughts and he is sending back his appreciation for the welcome. He says he is ready to begin our conversation.
Thank you Steve. Steve, would you kindly step back now completely out of his way so that he may come through clearly and without any residual energy. Han, when you are ready, we most cordially welcome you.
Hello Mary. This is Han.
Thank you. You are, of course, quite welcome.
Thank you for the invitation again.
As usual, I have lots of questions.
Han Smiling.
Therapist laughs. EARTH HISTORY
The first question I have is: Why did the Catholic Church invent the concept of saints?
In your religious history, there are many bureaucracies around your planet in various cultures. Often there is a human need to control how God is seen. Concerning the concept of God and how it applies to your individuality, often churches will act as intermediaries. Saints are part of this structure that is sometimes created. This was to create a formality and structure in many religions. Saints are often created to honor the past (works) of those who have served God. (This is) how their (works) have been interpreted through history. Particularly in the Catholic Church, there would be many ancient texts, religious books, Luke, Mark, John and others, the four main texts that were decided (upon) in the early Christian Church. This was done to unify the early Church politically and spiritually. As a result, other books that were significant too, some of which have been recently discovered by Earth archaeology, have been excluded since that time. In a less mystical way, this created a church becoming an impersonal intermediary dismissing other views encouraging a personal relationship with God. We have observed this in your culture.
It has always been my impression that we can talk to anyone we wish to on the spiritual side and I have been puzzled by this need for an intermediary.
It serves well the intermediary’s agenda, not God’s necessarily. We too, believe in a higher spiritual being. Often in how you perceive our culture, perhaps seeing us as highly advanced, we still in many ways are still asking the same fundamental questions. As we gaze out upon the universe and the stars we see the amazing ability of physics in the universe and how the workings of the universe come about. It only makes us wonder how this was created. Part of our nature is to look coldly and objectively in a scientific manner, but there is a part of us (that retains) an ancient instinct (to wonder) what is beyond perhaps what we do not understand. We also find emotion infused into our concepts of what reality is for us. It often makes us wonder about a creator of the universe, as well. We can empathize with the human need for this in whatever form humans wish to express their spirituality.
You are familiar with what we call “cold fusion.” What is the real story of cold fusion? Is this a real discovery?
Cold fusion is a path of only limited possibilities. Cold fusion is a false scientific premise used often as a means for humans to create income for themselves by imagining processes that are not technically feasible. Sometimes these are used as deceptions to create income for individuals and people who believe in such free energy possibilities. Many physics related to cold fusion is not physically possible in sustaining physical reactions. In the universe, there is little that is not possible, but Cold fusion, by human perception, should be looked at with some skepticism. Energy is everywhere in the Universe. It exists in many forms, nuclear, chemical, kinetic forms among others. Energy manifests itself by continually transforming from one form into another. Matter is energy, and energy is matter - times the speed of light squared.
Thank you. I know that we are not able to replicate the original Cold Fusion experiments so that certainly creates skepticism. Do you see the human species eventually using the full capacity of their brains, and if so, might that change us?
You will eventually, if your ability to survive on your planet continues. Your mind capacity will increase. Your interpretation of what full capacity is may include areas of the human brain you still have yet to discover. One indication of this will be a gradual ability to become telepathic. Mental telepathy is a common trait among many advanced life forms. In the universe, it is a common way of communicating. Eventually, humans will slowly develop this capacity, and when you do it will change your connectivity with other species on other planets, and in your relationships among yourselves. There will be greater insights & understanding collectively. This will create great changes in your society. It will fundamentally change the structure of your world.
Thank you. Are you familiar with the works of an author named Sitchin who translated ancient Sumerian texts? The very old Sumerian texts talked about the Anunnaki coming to this planet to find gold. They found poorly developed human beings whom they changed genetically so that they could use them for workers to mine gold. Is this true?
The Sumerians were an important contributor to the human species early in its history. Their great awareness of the sky and the great precision in which they recorded certain celestial events is quite noteworthy. Part of this is due to the visitations of the Anunnaki and their heightened awareness. The Sumerians came to the realization for the need to record their history in detail. They had an appreciation for many things. The Sumerians were often seen in a rather abstract or in an apprehensive way. But they created and contributed much to the early ancient understanding about humans and the universe. Many of the Sumerians and other cultures too had contact with the beings they referred to as the Anunnaki. The Anunnaki had a desire for certain materials from your planet such as gold for use in their technology.
The Sumerian language, was it already in place (at the time of contact) or was it learned from an outside culture?
It was spoken (prior to contact) and was modified by an outside culture later. Looking back in your time, across linear time, you see both influences. In the beginning the Sumerians created a precise and sophisticated language much like Greek is today, with very specific meanings for words. Their vocabulary was widened by the Anunnaki later, when the Anunnaki introduced themselves.
Was this a cooperative meeting or did the humans ultimately wind up serving the Anunnaki?
The Anunnaki imposed themselves in very remote places and then gradually conditions came to be where the Anunnaki were more prevalent in the Sumerian society. In turn, the Sumerians had to submit and accept the advanced nature of the Anunnaki. It soon became apparent that it would be beneficial for both. One advanced civilization displacing the less advanced civilization. The Annuli soon realized when their need for certain raw materials was satisfied, they erased much of their own presence in Sumerian society, and as a result the Sumerian culture collapsed into your history.
Was there any genetic material introduced into the human species at that time?
Yes. Some Anunnaki were able to leave their mark in the Sumerian heritage and this modified the human structure some of which is buried and will only become apparent overall in man’s future when they become more telepathic. The contribution of the Anunnaki long in the past will then manifest itself in a positive unexpected way.
Some people have very strong immune systems and other people seem to have vulnerable immune systems. Other than heredity, what factors might contribute to these differences?
Primarily it is heredity, but also it is environmental factors. Exposures to certain environments help to bolster the immune system by creating stronger abilities to resist infection and disease.
Are we able to talk specifically to our own cells and send them the message to be resilient and strong?
Our science has the ability to heal more effectively in such a way that we can program individual cells to focus on specific tasks beyond their own already existing autonomic roles. Often we use this to help in resisting certain diseases, such as cancer that we talked about earlier. For other heredity diseases, humans would benefit greatly by this. At the present time, due to our limited contact with humans we do not have the opportunity to administer such medicine or abilities extensively within your population. The concept is not a unique one, but we can put it into practice very effectively. Humans will someday perhaps learn this ability too.
To you knowledge, does our military or any other world military or governmental agencies use implants in human beings without their knowledge for purposes of tracking or any other purposes?
We have noticed in your intelligence agencies, many for their own safety, they will incorporate implants within their agents so that their position is known for their own protection. We have also noticed this in other countries with similar intelligence functions. We are well aware of the secrets of many intelligence organizations due to our telepathic ability. We can read the mind of many and we harbor most secrets that many agencies hold dear for their own sense of security. Many share the same secrets, each unaware the other possesses the same secrets. Military secrets are often the least secret ultimately. Human origin implants are used on a limited basis. These are primitive compared to ours. Ours work in an organic fashion. They have a benign appearance. As such, they disguise themselves. Our implants enhance natural brainwave patterns which humans have the inability to register. The human mind sends out an energy and we can detect these natural occurring waves of energy. Many species will use these (brain waves) to track abductees. They work as a form of radio transmitter to radiate a location. Human implants are not a transceiver. They do not receive, only transmit. Alien forms of implants invariably can monitor human subjects in ways you might consider very invasive. Body metabolic functions, the subject’s thoughts, memories retrieved, and new memories can even planted. Some species can observe the human condition in ways your expectation of individuality might find uncomfortable. In contrast, human agency implants are more rare, and are mainly so their own people can be located if they are in a compromising situation and require assistance for their safety.
Are you familiar with a species of wolf where there have been a hundred or more sightings of wolves that seem to be acting in a bipedal manner? They say they are in Wisconsin and Michigan. It is not that they look particularly different from a wolf but their bipedal behavior is quite surprising.
This may be. We have, on rare occasions, noticed this. They stand on their hind legs. This is an anomaly.
Do you think it might be an evolutionary testing behavior?
It is yet to be determined. Their ability to pursue game or to flee from danger is still more effective on their 4 legs instead of their 2 hind legs, but it is an interesting development. When the forelegs can begin to use tools, this will then is interpreted as an interesting unexpected development. The combination of the more prevalent hind legs and a different use for the forelegs would indicate more conclusively that a new genetic or evolutionary path may have begun. Time will show and we and humans will continue to observe what develops.
Not during this session but at a later session, would it be possible to use remote viewing to take us to observe a hybrid culture off planet?
Yes. This is possible. There are hybrids that exist here, too, though they are limited in number and their period of time is limited. We spoke of this earlier. The hybrid represents a transition in a continuing process to adapt to live naturally in this environment and to blend in to the human population. The more they become adapted, the more human they become. The part of them that is alien soon becomes displaced into the less dominate role. Many of their advanced natural abilities as an alien species are lost. One goal of hybridization is to retain their preexisting natural abilities, while adapting into the existing Earth habitat. The compromise hybridization represents often negates its real purpose. They loose some abilities aliens enjoy to become human.
Did they volunteer for that?
There is no sense of individualism. It is part of what is expected. In some ways they are selected and have no choice. It is the way of some species. They are made to adapt to act as the vanguard being scouts. I would not call it an invasion, merely integration into human society for many mutually beneficial purposes.
__________ and I have a strong interest in ancient history on this planet and the development of various cultures. Could you give us a little overview and perhaps bring out points that we would not have suspected?
About human history?
Yes. One important element that is not appreciated fully yet but which is growing rapidly is the effect of many influences from space on human history. Many more asteroid impacts have occurred that have radically changed the cultures and environments of your planet than you first thought. Particularly many areas of your world which where lush with growth that is now deserts due to impacts with asteroids and comet like objects. These have had a profound impact on how the world is seen today. There were times, before these impacts, when it was quite different. The Sahara area of your planet is largely desert, before that it was a garden. Other areas of the Middle East were in a similar fashion. This was very recent, as little as five or six thousand Earth years ago that these events occurred. There might be certain events you have not yet considered in how you view your ancient times from your perspective today.
Yes. I assume that the north and south poles also had population at one time.
MEDICAL QUESTIONS
ZETA RETICULI HISTORY
You mentioned once that sometimes when you gathered you would exchange perhaps a gift of fruit or something else.
A number of things.
What kind of events do you have that would bring your people together in a physical gathering? What kind of celebrations or events do you have?
Sometimes when a new life is brought into existence, often when the old one passes on to another existence that you call dying, sometimes, in the celebration of new discoveries or new relationships within our species, individually as well as collectively. Sometimes gifts are for other species. We often mark periods of time in our history and in our own personal lives. It is not a personal life in the way perhaps that you understand personal, but personal magnified by the community around us. We often will use these special times for such gifts and times of connecting together with friends.
If this is not too personal, do you have the same organs as the human species? If so, do you have any additional ones or have some of them changed in their function?
You may notice that often we do not wear certain garments. We often wear them to enhance our telepathic abilities, for example, exploration missions to enhance our awareness of the environment we are exploring. We wear clothing for exploration but also for protection. These are designed so they do not inhibit part of our respiration. We have lungs, as you call them. They do not fulfill their role completely. We are also able to respirate through our skin and exude waste products also. This is a supplemental part of our lung capacity within our physiology. So often, we do not wear garments because these may inhibit our ability to respirate efficiently. Also, our gender organs are not apparent in our physical appearance. This is partially due to a merging of genders as it is with humans also where both characteristics exist but one is predominant. In our species one gender is less apparent and this is partially due to our means of current reproduction, an artificial one. Our gender organs become less important. They are a legacy from an earlier time. Our bone structure I have commented on. It is both light and strong with a Kevlar like weave, as you call it, for added strength. This originated from a bird missing link in our long evolutionary past. Our minds have increased in capacity, both in size and usage. With this come the telepathic abilities that we have grown to depend upon.
Do you have frontal lobes and a kind of similar structure to the human brain?
Yes. We have areas of our mind that serve different functions. We have frontal lobes and a cerebral cortex with a similar in nature and purpose (as in humans).
The area of the brain that would be highly developed would be the portion that enables spoken language. Has that diminished in your brain because of your ability to be telepathic? Perhaps it has increased?
It has diminished due to our telepathic ability, but our memory capacity has increased to store in memory the greater volume of communication as a result too. The language centers of our brains have been displaced to a degree by this. On many different levels, we are able to project energy in a quantum way between our minds, both in short distances and through special training, across great distances to other stars, similar to what is happening here (with us).
Because of your ability to send energy, do you also use it as a mechanism for healing?
Yes. We have learned and we have specialized entities within our species. I mentioned earlier about beings that could be considered doctors or scientists with certain abilities, one of which you could call medicine. These beings can focus these energies, as well as using physical instrumentalities to heal. The two are used in concert; pain signals to the brain can be interrupted. These energies can be transmitted to other beings to help heal as well.
Concerning your glands, your heart, and your liver, would you care to talk to us about them?
We have to metabolize the food we eat. We still eat food and there are waste products. We often have to store these nutrients in various forms that the body makes for itself. In the basic elements, fats and sugars that we metabolize. These are more plant fats, not animal fats. We are not carnivores. We mainly have vegetables and fruits as our food sources. We respect those who need, perhaps, other sources for their diet. Our sources are sufficient for us. Our bodies are able to metabolize these. We have certain digestive organs. Our reproductive organs become less important due to our other form of artificial reproduction. Many species who also follow this form of reproduction sometimes will abduct humans to supplement their genetic stock from species similar to them (genetically) that follow the more natural forms of reproduction.
That is actually using part of humans as genetic surrogates? Can’t they just use the human surrogate without using the genetic material?
For purposes of hybridization, a surrogate is often required. For genetic material alone, often a surrogate is not needed. Often certain ova and sperm are taken and genetically altered to suit the needs of the species who need to maintain their ability to be a viable species in their continuing existence.
What about your heart? How does that compare to the human heart?
We have heart organs. Our heart has a different number of chambers. We do have a circulatory and lymphatic system similar to humans. These organs are in a different but similar location in the chest area. We do have a sternum and a kind of rib bone framework that protects the heart and lung areas much like humans do. Our hearts have reduced changed in their capacity from our early evolution when we were more bird like and we need to respirate more. Our heart rate no longer requires as high a rate of respiration in the past. Our bodies, in comparison to human, may seem more frail. Our heart that we possess is well suited to our present state of evolution.
You are familiar with human beings when they take someone’s pulse. Can you tell us what your heart rate is per minute?
Our heart rate at rest is 90 to 120 beats per minute. It is rapid compared to humans.
I am surprised. I would have thought with your longevity, your pulse rate would run slower.
This is due to our heart capacity being smaller than yours. It is of a design that has a number of redundancies. These redundancies contribute to our relative longevity. Where one chamber may become deficient, another will compensate. Two hearts in one maybe another way to understand. This design was genetically engineered and incorporated in our distant past.
Has your liver become smaller over time because your skin is respirating some of your waste?
Yes. The form of liver that we have stores sugars that are available to us in case our bodies require it. Our ‘liver’ like organ as you refer to it is both for metabolizing and storage. It gives us added energy at certain times. It is not too dissimilar than humans. Humans also store sugars in their liver as we understand human physiology, but perhaps not to the same extent.
SPIRITUALITY
During meditation this morning I had an exchange with my spiritual guide. He told me that any human adventurer or explorer is reaching out for more knowledge and those adventurers have a spiritual entourage attached to them so that they too may learn. Are you familiar with this concept?
The spirit to explore is a desire to celebrate life. This celebration is to learn all that we can learn and to explore the unknown. We, as spacefarers, embrace this concept. We would spiritually die if we did not have this desire to reach out to the stars. In reaching out to the stars we reach out to other life too. The wonders there are, and to discover and learn. In concert with this, to surround oneself with similar elements in a spiritual way would make much sense. For the bold, they take with them a spiritual protection against the unknown. This is a mysterious protection, not closed to guard, but spiritually open to new ideas and concepts. The desire to explore and be in spiritual harmony makes sense.
What could you tell us about the afterlife for your species and is it something that is co-created?
Co-created?
Yes. That would be where your thought forms and thought forms from another source unite creating a type of environment for an afterlife, if that in fact occurs.
We believe in an afterlife. In a spiritual context and also in a physical sense, understanding there is an infinite variety of dimensions in the physical universe. This is both a scientific fact and a belief. In many beliefs, these become facts. We know that in the community of mind among our species the interconnectiveness apparent when one passes on. There is a lingering wake their identity has left behind. Often the loss is greater for those left behind than for the being that has passed on. This is true for you too is it not? They have gone to a higher place, a different place. Our telepathic abilities and the inter-consecutiveness this facilitates a greater understanding of what could be beyond. It is part of our belief system that beings just transcend to another place on a different level and that their energy continues, like all forms of energy in the Universe, transforms once again. What you call souls, we belief we have souls too. We have not discussed souls much but we have often mentioned it. It is natural to assume that we each share these concepts. Aliens, as you refer to us, have souls too. The term alien is transitory too, from the unknown to becoming the familiar. I hope this is understood or I have expressed it in an understandable way.
I think what I am hearing is that your belief is that the environment in the afterlife already exists. Is that correct?
Yes. It is another dimension that we often transcend and cross over to in another level of existence.
I suspect, from what you have been telling me, human souls and the souls of other species will be able to interact, especially since you know Dr. Mack’s soul.
Yes. ‘The Courageous One’ is what we call him. He was brave among his peers to see clearly and to understand early, the best that he could, what he was seeing was entirely new in the context of the educational institutions that he was a part of. He stood out from the rest. He declared that there was a mystery to be explored and this was a great doorway for humans to take note of the abduction phenomenon. In the context for visitors in general too, whether their intent is malevolent or benevolent. He drew attention to this. We call him the Courageous One.
It took his unusual credentials, really, to give him the ability to be published and to be listened to.
He was a beautiful human who could see beyond the problem and could take into account a possibility of other realities which are commonplace to us. He was a Columbus in your culture to use a term. Because of his status among his peers, a controversial and brave soul and we were saddened at his untimely loss.
Was his death an accident?
Yes. Dr. Mack was known to us and was “absent minded.” He was deep in thought, often oblivious to the goings on around him of the normal paces of life such as your dangerous automobile traffic.
That I certainly understand.
It was a tragic accident. It was not premeditated.
I only met him for a few moments and, of course, he was very cordial. What I picked up from him was his being deep in thought, but also a sense of sadness.
His sadness was partly because he knew he was only embarking on the beginning of something and he knew he had much left to understand. Dr. Mack knew his journey of discovery, if the correct path, was not the easy one. Is this not always the case? In human terms, his life did not afford him the time to understand more. His academic position allowed him great freedom to explore these new avenues that up before him later in his life. The beauty among his other skills was compassion with abductees or with your children, as in the case in Africa where a species visited a school. He was a beneficial contributor in making visitor contact more comfortable for humans. Creating reassurance and understanding. I hope my thoughts are not fragmented.
We are doing pretty well with the translation.
We talked a little bit about energy and the soul, being of energy, would not be destroyed. Does a soul experience something like reincarnations?
Souls often translate to other dimensions. In those other dimensions they may take on a physical form again, perhaps in a different form. This probably could be interpreted as “reincarnation.” We often refer to it as renewal, but the meaning is the same.
CONTACT
We had spoken a little bit before about ___________. Your species is aware of _______. We talked briefly about his ability to communicate. I have talked to ___________. He feels that ____________ are being taken intermittently, as well as himself. If that is true, is that because of some unusual genetic component?
Yes. Due to the nature _____________ his _________ are also taken, as well as him. This is partly due to his enhanced ability to communicate. There are relationships that __________has with many beings. This is part of the natural process to connect. The beings are as curious about him as much as _________is curious about them. One legacy of this is that ____________are sometimes taken as well. I hope that no harm comes to them. These (abductions) are by other beings and sometimes it is done by ones of our species. We have mentioned in earlier conversations in being acquainted with and knowing ________ well. We know that he is one with us so yes, I can confirm _____________(are taken). He has little control over this. He can only be swept up in the wave out into the sea of that situation and then deposited back on the beach safely returned. It is a feeling of relief that he is treated well (by us). I hope that the other beings who are taking him and________________ treat him with the same respect (that we do).
_____________it creates an extra dimension of trauma for him in not being able to protect _____________.
This is a natural instinct of all humans to protect. If he feels despair because he feels he is no longer capable of protecting ______________, (remind him that) he is capable of protecting _____________in most situations. He should not despair in feeling incapable in those special particular situations. His instincts and motives are good. I too sense this from him; he should not feel this way. I am sending this (message) to him now. I am trying to make him feel at peace. It is important with any abductees to hold fast to what they are. Within their own identity to draw strength from and also from a higher source in such stressful situations. Humans often seek strength beyond themselves when a situation is confronted by them that are beyond their control. We understand this due to our many encounters, self worth eases this stress.
THE UNIVERSE
OTHER
OPEN SESSION FOR COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS
Do you have anything that you would like to comment on or suggest at this time before I bring Steve back?
Your world is going through a number of changes. Of concern is your population growth of your planet. I see many of the same circumstances that once confronted our world with overpopulation. Even though the population of your planet is not evenly distributed, the concentrations of populations overall still create a burdensome affect on the natural abilities of the planet to accommodate such large populations. A time will come when, through disease or starvation, your population will have to stabilize naturally on its own. You will need to adjust to the new circumstances that such a large population would create. It is important that your planet and all the species that live on the planet are not stressed beyond its existing capacity. You still act individually. If the existing solar cycles on this planet continue, there could be an intersection of many factors, overpopulation, global warming and the disappearance of many species displaced by human populations. Those species displaced provide many medicines to your own species. Part of our reason for being in touch with you is to monitor, and without your knowledge help your planet continue to be the garden of great diversity and abundance and life that it is known for by many species. You planet is a garden that needs to be preserved. In opinion of many species, the human species still remains in doubt due to its overpopulation and continued growth. Overpopulation is the danger that we would like to see avoided.
As would we.
But I feel that I also wish to leave you with a sense of optimism. Have no fear of the future. Create the ability to make changes.
Thank you for your generosity in giving us knowledge and insights.
We look forward to meeting with you again.
I wish to end our session on what could be, not what has to be. In time the planet will correct itself. If the beneficial understanding is found early and the corrections and adaptations made before the Earth’s natural way takes a more cruel solution, your species will be successful. On that note I wish to perhaps for conclusion of our conversation.
Until we meet again.
I look forward to our next communication at the appropriate time. Thank you for the invitation.
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Post by skywalker on Oct 28, 2011 22:57:55 GMT -6
Steve, did you ever ask that question I had about what role music plays in the universe? I went back and looked but didn't see it anywhere. I would be interested in hearing the answer to that...it has me very curious.
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