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Post by Morgan Sierra on Jul 31, 2011 19:17:28 GMT -6
This is a thread for Steve to report about his hypnosis sessions. Steve Wrote:
"I am working with my friend hypnotherapist, and we have been practicing 'remote sensing' too. She hypnotizes me over the phone. She sensed in me something I do not see in me, and we have been investigating this. Mary takes me deep into a hypnotic state.... asks questions through me of an entity that seems to come into some kind of contact with us. Each time, more deeply. The first session, only about 30%. We have had several fascinating sessions. I am not quite prepared to share in detail yet. It seems quite difficult to accept, been fun too. In working these sessions, Mary's, emphasis is to simply describe, never to analyze (which I often do). It seems this contact to be a form of entity - what George in his book calls a 'hyper-advanced alien' (Hyperversals). More advanced and apparently ethical than the grays called 'Verdants', whatever is the case.
There is a vague image of this entity in my mind, but the scene is dark and indistinct, nothing ever frightening. What does it all mean? From a place inside my own mind, or something more?
What intrigues me is Mary will ask me questions she knows I would not know the answer to, and has been impressed there is someone else present doing the conversation. These sessions continue. Various question posed....How they travel, does dark matter permeate through the membranes of other universes... why do verdants abduct humans, why are they here, do they eat nutrients?....where from....the entity's name.... The answers are recorded, and are often never simple answers.
This entity described traveling through space both in a physical means, but often too in a virtual way as well. Interestingly, experiencers have described balls of light that seemed to possess something living too.
In these sessions, I will describe them as 'we'. The entity also will describe about me, making comments about me in the third person. At the end of the last session, Mary mindful not to tire us. After a whole hour and a half, there was a sense of sadness between the three of us, but we seem to reconnect easily.
I know...bizarre..."
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2011 2:52:43 GMT -6
Wow Steve!! I'm looking forward to your updates on this entity...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2011 17:07:47 GMT -6
There's always this thing in the back of my mind when it comes to channelers or remote viewers. It isn't that I don't believe them..many of them I do..what bothers me is how very little we understand the 'energies' around us. If there were not things to be exorcised, there wouldn't be recorded and taped instances of them. I've no knowledge of demons or such things but I am concerned that if they exist (and there is evidence to suggest that they do) then what these people are channeling could be some demonic entities pretending to be something else, manipulating and gaining a toe hold. Face to face with beings, a person might find some common ground..entities channeled..I wouldn't be comfortable with. It always falls back to 'we just don't know or understand enough'. I'd absolutely believe he's in contact with something..but then we've had people here that made interesting cases too, saying they were in contact with other races (some like the 'depanoid' not so nice). They didn't prove to be real. You'd think..if they are reasonably intelligent beings, they might figure second or third hand information shaky at best and arrange for a more standard approach. I dunno..Steve you have lots more experience..are you convinced?
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Post by Steve on Aug 2, 2011 19:58:50 GMT -6
Hi Jo,
No, not convinced. But something seems to be occurring. During hypnosis, one's imagination centers are suppressed. I'm not so sure.
I guess two parts of this with me you have just touched on. Working with Mary, seeing for myself if there is any credibility to this stuff. There are parts of the human mind (mine here in this case) that we may not know much about. In the back of my mind I keep wondering if this is all coming out of me.
The other is Mary seems to be aware of a ...lets say...broader wavelength of energies perhaps out there we are exploring.
Mary says I am a bit of a doubting Thomas. Perhaps she is right. I do feel it is important mentally to see the experiment through with an attitude of being open to these possibilities.
If these are advanced beings, humbly I must ask myself then....who am I to be being contacted that way?
Steve
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2011 21:45:50 GMT -6
Doubting Thomas maybe but I'd be asking the same stuff I think. I am so positive there are dimensions and energies we haven't scratched the surface of..no matter what..it's exciting stuff Please keep us posted
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Post by Steve on Aug 2, 2011 22:58:08 GMT -6
I wonder if when during the hypnotic state, some sensory deprivation occurs? Short-term sessions of sensory deprivation are described as relaxing and conducive to meditation. I know this has been the case with me during these sessions. I read the deprivation of patterned sensory input is said to be conducive to inwardly generated impressions. Which makes sense perhaps in providing clues about where these communications with these entities come from. Them, or really just from within me? I think I will run this past Mary.
I mentioned earlier one of Mary's checks was to ask the entity questions I most likely would not know or little about the answer to. Gestalt philosophy or it principles was one of these posed by Mary. The entity in response described Gestalt as a conscious experience which must be considered globally, or in this case, Galacticly! An interconnected consciousness. Holistic. I did vaguely know this, but not to that extent.
I remember describing it as a tightly woven weave interconnecting live forms and energies, yet the individual mattered, and if an individual alien entity was lost to that weave in death, the entity moved on to a higher plane, and the memory and life force still was impressed upon the others in that weave. Never lost. My interpretation of the Gestalt's Principle of Totality? This is what I was describing, or rather, the entity was describing. It was very cool. Their ability telepathically to interconnect with themselves on many levels facilitated this. Telepathy was described like a multibandwith interrelationship. Imagine it like a DSL internet cable vs. human communication like a conventional voice phone line would be in comparison.
I was given the hypnotic suggestion to only describe, and never to analyze what I was describing. So deliberately any influence of imagination was suppressed. When we began these sessions, I was to empty my mind and relax, and this sense of floating in this infinite void, floating in space (no stars). Just emptiness. One indication was a feeling my left elbow was very heavy, and immobile. Mary said this was a clear indication I was in a very deep state of hypnosis. Coming out of this seemed easy, counting back, fully awake. In a hypnotic state to me it feels like I am in a wide awake state, but somehow enclosed in this bubble. My voice tone and syntax changes too Mary says. She said it sounded like me, but it did not seem to be me talking.....
Future questions to be asked - crop circles. We discussed why abductions of humans occur. Seems the 'hyperverals' I was discussing abductions with universally did not approve of the practice.
Steve
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2011 3:20:23 GMT -6
The human mind never ceases to amaze me... wow...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2011 15:34:50 GMT -6
I think your experiments are really interesting Steve. Could you ask about dimensions and string theory perhaps (for me?). In a very small way it reminds me of experiments we tried with a ouji board years ago..I always wondered if I was pulling information from myself or if it was an entity. We weren't trying to use it as a game but as a mediums tool to try channeling. Does the subconscious speak or another player? I realize it's not anywhere close to hypnosis but it always posed a similar question to me..
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Post by Steve on Aug 3, 2011 18:33:56 GMT -6
Thanks Jo, No ouji boards for me.... I have added string theory and multiple dimensions to the questions list. Any more? Next session this Sunday. Steve
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2011 9:58:39 GMT -6
Oh...I'll think of more I'm really excited to hear next weeks
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Post by skywalker on Aug 4, 2011 21:31:46 GMT -6
Ask the entity what the Marfa Lights are. I'm going out there to see them next week and for once I would like to know what the heck I am looking at.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2011 23:23:41 GMT -6
Reflections of Venusian ducks trapped in our cosmic flatulence. ;D
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Post by Steve on Aug 6, 2011 17:05:52 GMT -6
Oh...I'll think of more I'm really excited to hear next weeks Jo, Hope you see this in time. Mary asked me if you could be more specific about your question related to String theory. Steve
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2011 18:42:11 GMT -6
I'm curious to know if other 'beings' are aware of or understand the possibilities of unobservable dimensions beyond the 4 known space time dimensions. I've always been interested in what kind of dimensions these might be.
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Post by Steve on Aug 6, 2011 20:03:59 GMT -6
Thx Jo, good one. I have forwarded this new question to Mary to ask ______.
Steve
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2011 20:11:20 GMT -6
Thank you Steve..looking forward to it
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Post by Steve on Aug 9, 2011 0:38:28 GMT -6
Mary and I conducted another sesson Sunday. It was about one hour, ten minutes. We record the sessions, but keep a backup note pad...or rather Mary does, as I am 'under'. Feel we might have to look through old salvation army stores to find old large cassette tape recorders. Prefer them, far more reliable. You can see the tape moving, recording ...digital recorders are small and need more memory...and frankly hard to tell if the are actually working or not. These are then transcribed. Mary wants to write a book together about these. She says she claims to be these are the clearest she has done. I said...really?
We are learning to ask fewer questions now...maybe three...and let the entity 'Han' describe in deeper detail. I know..weird...but whatever is happening it is wonderful Mary said.
Questions this time regarded whether time existed before the big bang.... it did, and the big bang was not a big bang as much as dark energy permeating a membrane of an adjacent Universe creating ours....Time both exists and doesn't exist. To Mary, because time existed (according to Han) before the creation of this Universe, it means to her God existed before the creation of this Universe too. They, like us are explorers too, and if they know a vast more knowledge of space than we do yet, there are still questions they have too.
'Han' described through me with Mary asking the questions.....that the Universe is the ultimate mathematical equation. Areas of the Universe that seem to display 'chaos', are simply more complex forms of the same universal mathematical equation. Mathematics is the universal language of the universe.
Han was asked to describe his home planet (orbiting Zeta Reticuli one). An image formed in my mind that was actually quite beautiful and remarkable. Zeta Reticuli is a binary star. Han's planet is in a orbit near one of the two stars. From the surface of Han's planet, the 'sun' looks similar in size and brightness to our own sun. The other star is present in the same sky, but much more distant, appearing as a Sirius star, but 5 times brighter, like a pearl compared to a golf ball in size. Nights occur, but due to the second star, it rarely has totally dark nights. There are rare occasions when both stars are out of view, and total darkness can occur.
The sky there is a deep purple, with vivid reds for sunsets. The planet has oceans, - water is plentiful when it does appear...in the Universe. Imagine a 'lush green monument Valley'.... much like Ireland intermixed. A green Monument Valley. Strange mountains were in clumps. Rolling green pasture lands. Cities & technology are mostly underground....undeneith the rolling green hills. Only in deep canyons are these cities directly exposed along the canyon's steep slopes. It's oceans, surface, and it's atmosphere had life. The planets birds from a distance seemed like albatross in proportions, but whether they were actual birds or mammal like was yet to be determined. The oceans were a deep blue turquoise.
Hans planet once suffered and almost never recovered from imbalance and ecological disaster. It recovered when many of it's inhabitants died from over population and relief by much of the original population emigrating to distribute themselves on other nearby worlds. Population is controlled in a asexual technological means...population remains at numbers in balance with the planets ecology. The life expectancy of Hans species is longer than ours, but a new life is not created till another passes on first.
Han felt comfortable expressing emotion, but emotion is normally muted in their species. Logic and rational exchange predominating over emotion. Their contact with us reminds Han's species of it's proper place in development. There is a multilevel interconnectedness within Han's species, which we cannot comprehend yet. Han guards it's actual appearance. Revealing a little more. He emerged from the dark shadows in my memory more, but if alien, not hard to grow accustomed to. The individual still exists on this planet socially, but telepatyhically....a interconnectedness binds them, an energy that emanates from all living things, plant, lesser animal, and sentient beings too. Our nature cannot fully grasp this yet, but humans have this trait in some. An Internet of knowledge without wires.
Crop circles where discussed. He mentioned that true crop circles are calling cards reminding humans they are not alone, and to prompt humans of what exists beyond the Earth. Most crop circles are of human origin, but not all. England is a favorite location to form crop circles based on alien observation of the English fondness for puzzle solving...and gardening. Crop circles to aliens are graffiti, mind mazes to humans. One day the gap between will close.
There was more.....about 'us'. Whatever the case, Han's species rationalizes we are worth their time.
Hope this makes any sense.... whatever is happening, it is a nice diversion.... I seem to relax and go into a state of mediation. Quicker each time starting, deeper. Mary assures me I come fully back too. Clear as before. These hypnotic sessions are done over the phone. I get this sense of feeling relaxed...and somehow at the same time very focused. Whereever I go, it is somewhere between the leather sofa and somewhere else.
This rambles...maybe the transcript will tell better.
Steve
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2011 1:30:47 GMT -6
"asexual" reproduction? They clone themselves then, huh? Interesting...
Extremely interesting. Could you ask "Han" if he knows "Linewave"? ~nervous giggle~. I'm serious though...
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Post by Steve on Aug 9, 2011 1:36:30 GMT -6
Helll, why not! Steve
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2011 1:44:52 GMT -6
Helll, why not! Steve ;D He'll probably say, "No. Linewave is a figment of Lorelei's overactive imagination." But... maybe he won't... he seems to be a very real entity... and I honestly believe you have made contact with him. Thanks Steve! Looking forward to more information from this wise old being...
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Post by Steve on Aug 9, 2011 9:41:49 GMT -6
"No. Linewave is a figment of Lorelei's overactive imagination." One figment of the imagination denying the existence of another figment of the imagination perhaps? I am not sure. I don't pretend to think this could really be some kind of contact, except in my own mind. Question is - is it from me, or something else? It is what it is, and will explore this without analyzing it for now. The process is safe, harmless I have been assured, and has no after effects except what I seem to relate verbally.
Steve
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2011 9:55:47 GMT -6
I've just been reading a really interesting book on tapping into the cosmic consciousness...which requires forms of relaxation, meditation and unselfish questioning. Very much like what you are describing. According to this, 'Han' would be your guide, your 'contact'..and your hypnosis sessions your relaxation and meditation. I just found this book in the library yesterday. I think whether it's reaching into cosmic consciousness or channeling an entity..it's very interesting. Lorelei..'automatic writing', channeling, meditation, dowsing.. are all ways of reaching a higher consciousness..that could also be where your entity came from
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Post by auntym on Aug 9, 2011 10:50:52 GMT -6
WOW.... steve....interesting stuff....
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Post by Steve on Aug 9, 2011 20:47:27 GMT -6
I've just been reading a really interesting book on tapping into the cosmic consciousness...which requires forms of relaxation, meditation and unselfish questioning. Very much like what you are describing. According to this, 'Han' would be your guide, your 'contact'..and your hypnosis sessions your relaxation and meditation. I just found this book in the library yesterday. I think whether it's reaching into cosmic consciousness or channeling an entity..it's very interesting. I think that pretty much describes the process going on here Jo. I leave much of this to Mary conducting these sessions. I trust her on this. She thinks under this hypnotic trance, I seem to have some ability to contact this entity. Many months before, she suggested we explore this notion. I did not believe her honestly, and our always interesting conversations moved on to other topics. Mostly about our working abduction cases. I seem to at times describe information I would not be sure I necessarily know. I am asked a question, and I describe what comes into my head. I do read a lot however, and what I could be communicating could really be just my own speculation about what I may read ... related back in a free association kind of way? This entity named Han seems quite forthcoming. Han has been what we would describe as a 'good' alien I guess.....no bad 'human' traits. Never has there been any compulsion on my part to do any automatic writing...channeling of any kind...thank goodness. I dug up an old Jackson vocational interest survey about myself. Three strongest occupational themes about myself in this test described me as 'logical', 'socialized', and 'communicative', strong interest in mathematics, the physical sciences, and engineering. Remind you, these record (as with anyone taking this test) my interests, not necessarily my aptitudes. So knowing this about myself, perhaps can you see how unusual these sessions then must seem to me? Steve
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2011 23:35:49 GMT -6
Absolutely As I understand what the book is saying..it is possible for most, in the right state of mind to connect to this 'consciousness'..I see right off, how valuable it is to have Mary and you working as a team...especially for you (being as logical as you are)...but you also have this very nice open mindedness. When I spoke with you on the phone, you're very good at putting someone at ease, and you have a nice reassuring manner that most of us don't see when discussing abductions. Your background here could only be a help even if you are a wee tad skeptical. I think it's very very interesting and I'm enjoying your sharing. Especially when speaking of his planet and the colors, moons, etc. How often do we get that kind of a treat?
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Post by Steve on Aug 10, 2011 16:00:30 GMT -6
Hug to Jo. Does this book Jo describe what is going on in this process? Steve
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2011 12:34:43 GMT -6
As soon as I've waded through it..I'll give you the high points..I got sidetracked There is this thing that I read in another book..that when, in the evolution of the soul, it is time to reach further and look beyond boundaries..ways will be found to do that. What you are experiencing makes me think of that also because it is very mind expanding More questions on other planets please...(hopeful look) ;D
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Post by Steve on Aug 11, 2011 22:30:31 GMT -6
Mary is transcribing all three sessions.
We have more questions still yet to ask.
Our sessions discussed the nature of our moon. Why the back side is so different in appearance from the front side. If there are hidden bases there...(beginning to sound like George Filer now). Han said basically without elaborating more here - there are plenty of places to hide...but no bases.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2011 0:17:30 GMT -6
Oh Steve..please ask if Phobos is a derelict ship .. You know the best part of this, aside from your contribution is that you have a partner in it..someone to 'transcribe' and witness. Thanks again for sharing with us.
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Post by Steve on Aug 16, 2011 13:39:36 GMT -6
Transcripions of the first three sessions. There seems to be nothing really private here, except the notion of 'Han'. whoever he is. I do not really know how to explain this, just here it is. It is interesting and surprising. How much of this is me, or somone else? I cannot answer.
Steve
HAN Through Steve _________under Hypnosis Therapist: Mary ________ August 2011
Session I July 11, 2011
Client requested to be hypnotized in an attempt to talk to aliens. Therapist placed client in deep trance. The client was having difficulty making contact. Therapist, through suggestion, raised the vibration of Steve by 30% to facilitate contact. At this point a rather soft voice came through Steve and agreed to speak with us. The following questions were poised, with some being answered by a being who identifies himself as “Han.”
Where do you come from?
Zeta Reticuli (sp)
What is your agenda?
To make contact.
Has Mars sustained any advanced life?
Not as you would think of life. It has grown lower-level algae type life. There are those who wish so much for there to be ancient more advanced life on Mars - that they misinterpret what they see as structures.
What is the function of dark matter?
Dark energy? It is a place holder in the universe.
Why are the galaxies in our universe being pulled to one side?
It is just an impression that they are being pulled to one side. When compared to the entire universe, they are not.
What is the shape of the universe?
(Steve sees something like a cluster of bubbles.)
Are there energy gestalts between planets/galaxies/universes?
Yes and much more that could be seen as types of gestalts.
Why are you taking samples of humans, animals, plants?
We do take samples but our purpose is to perpetuate and seed other planets. We do not wish to cause harm. Sometimes, however, some lose their lives due to the stress of the process. We are rather like bees, moving life along.
What should we know about the bottom of our oceans and the species found there?
There are many life forms and come and go from there…….
Do dolphins have a sense of humor?
No humor as such, but they have a sense of play.
Are there Federations between planets/galaxies?
Yes.
Do members of your species have individual souls?
Yes.
Do you eat food?
Not food as you do but we take on nourishment in a liquid form that fulfills all that we need.
Are there universal laws?
Yes.
Is there one that prohibits one species from becoming so abundant that it overruns another?
Self regulation. We maintain our population by regulating procreation.
Is there an appreciation of music with your species?
YES! What better way to communicate! Yes, we do enjoy music, although it is different from your concept and experience of music.
Session II August 5, 2011
Can you foresee future events?
To some extent but not very far.
How does our planet compare to others you know of as a place for life to exist?
Although there are other planets like earth to some extent, earth is unique and we enjoy it for that.
What is your home planet like?
(Steve is shown a flash of what Han’s planet looks like.) It has two suns, one is farther away. On our planet there is a purpose for everyone – all interconnected spirit. There are many animals, oceans. We evolved from the oceans too. We have animals that fly, live on the land and in the oceans. As with you, salinity is part of metabolisms, growing things. There was almost extinction but we stabilized our planet.
Is there war where you come from?
We live in harmony with each other, interconnected.
Do you have a family?
It is not a family as you think of your family but rather a kind of longing and connection with those who come from the same place/time.
What does mathematics have to do with the universe/creation?
Everything can be described in terms of mathematics. We still have things we do not know. What you see as chaos is just a situation where you do not know all the formulas yet. Do not think of black holes as simply devouring holes. Think of them as “wombs” in which life in its elemental form is being created. They provide a center to create and sustain every galaxy. Technology is a pattern we take with us as we travel through time and space. You could describe your universe as a mathematical model but there is much more. Math is a universal language everywhere.
What more can you tell us about crop circles?
Most of them are not of our making. We enjoy using the English country side. We are often imitated. Our purpose is to show humans that they are not alone in the universe. It is not the complex symbols but the statement itself that is our meaning. Crop circles are the maze “maize” of the mind (a little humor). We love to dazzle you with symmetry and to say hello.
What is on the reverse side of the moon?
It is like two moons. The other side is more topographically complex. We park there. We can pass through solid objects and go underground so you cannot see our ships there unless we want you to see them.
What can you tell us about dark energy?
It is a placeholder for the planets.
What medium carries thought?
It is an energy that we can see but you cannot. You understand how you touch your environment even with thought. Processes for thought work much faster than you can imagine.
What has kept the human race from being extinguished by aliens?
How many times has the human race been wiped out to extinction?
Is “cause and effect” a moot point at the universal level?
Did nothing cause the big bang? Is time a moot point?
Time does not disappear at the point of the big bang. It continues to exist always, including in the other universes. The big bang occurred because the membranes of 2 universes bumped up against each other and caused the explosion known as the “big bang.”
Discussion of individuality vs. connectivity:
Han talked about how his species has minimized emotions and learn from humans about emotions and their usefulness in life. I, the therapist, mentioned that in America, individualism is admired and helps to promote creativity. He responded that he saw our need for individualization as being tied to our fear of death, our ego and our inability to have real trust that allows interdependent living. He said that his species did not have the same kind of ego. However, we often feel the need for individuality to some (lesser) degree. In order for us to communicate, humans must raise the bar and his species must temporarily lower the bar. He describes the human species as an anomaly. He says, “You are worth our time and carefully interact with you. We adapt to nature instead of changing it. It is our ecology of space for other life forms.
SESSION III August 14, 2010
Steve placed in deep trance.
(Steve is given 4 gifts to move through this time in a peaceful way.)
Han is invited by Steve to speak with us.
He feels a wave of energy like a breeze that came into a room. I feel it through my body.
Our first question: How do you feel your spirituality?
Spirituality is an acknowledgement of something beyond ourselves that is beneficial for well being. In a community of beings there are others in the same meditative focus. It is strange to describe. Humans, to an entity like us we feel our consciousness a sense of peace and higher purpose. The feeling we have is extended telepathically between us and it …..a great spiritual being and meaningfulness. A belonging with each other and the higher being we are in contact. It is this way with us. Our ability to communicate with each other telepathically enhances the experience.
As you know, Steve mentioned you came in like a wave of energy. A being from the Pleiades describes how they see human beings, that is, they view us as waves of energy instead of particles of energy. Is that how you see us?
It is both material and immaterial, particle and wave. The wave is the most beautiful expression for the radiated energy that ties us together, radiating from all human beings. It is not so much a material thing as ethereal form. It is like a song, a song for each, in harmony with all that makes life bearable and beautiful. It is a beautiful thing so there is no need to be…this is what happens ……..[interruption].
I am now addressing Han and invite him to share with us to describe what relationship his species has with animals.
Our species with animals……we are a form of animal as are all living things. It is not the context that humans often place on the word animal. We are a higher being much beyond our material self in a spiritual and intellectual level that has advanced. We have joined into the community of sentient being and a delightful place there. We are holding onto my focus. It, ah, it feels reluctant to share further on that question only but welcomes further questions.
Alright. We understand, from a radio program, about a being who tells the audience that August 18 will be a time of serious reconstruction. We understand that September 11th of this year also has some important event coming. Would you care to comment on those dates?
August 18th is time when subtle changes will occur toward continuing process of both renewal of new and the discontinuance of old. September 11th will; be an anniversary time of memories a bad time. People will attempt to cause more harm on this planet but it will be stopped before it happens. August 18th is not an ominous date. It will be time of change but time will show that it is a continuing process of loss of the old and the renewal of new ways. I am sorry I cannot elaborate more. It will affect the future to reveal more. There is nothing to fear by it.
The next question involves exchanges of human beings with other cultures not on this earth. One program was called SERPO Project. Are there what we might call, cultural exchanges, literally physical cultural exchanges between this planet and other planets?
There are cultures who wish to expedite contact. Some have a sense of urgency, others not so much. That contact occurred many years ago. It was partially successful. Some humans and entities did not survive the exchange. It saddened us that it was not as successful as we had hoped. It was with the best of intentions but the emotional shock was a great change to the human and entities to have permanent residence on the exchanged planet. Many of the psychological and emotional connections with other humans were severed not intentionally but a sense of longing for home was a difficult transition to make for many of the passengers to Serpo and though they were well treated there were limitations in the success of this experiment. The detachment from your planet was too great to bear. A sense of adventure and exploration was accomplished but without the ability to return that knowledge the one-way trip was also an emotional strain the occupants. The same was true for our beings exchanged. They survived better because they were accustomed to other worlds. It was too sudden a change premature in an exchange of cultures and contact, but, we have adapted to that now we make contact on brief short-term time periods where humans can be brought back after many hours instead of forever. The connections with family in human society are too great to sever so suddenly and emotionally they could not adapt to our culture and our ways. They were well treated and regarded with respect but like a vine, it lived for a time and then withered and died. It could not sustain itself. And then that, we regret, now made a policy of short-term contact is now in effect to replace on a slow and gradual basis, contact with this planet and others. So, yes, Serpo did exist in contact and the desert of northern New Mexico. An exchange was made with both sides, in secret, and our knowledge is heightened by this. We learned a lot about human weaknesses as well as strength as well as they about ours. There is still a great gap in future exchanges on a long-term basis. Humans need to adapt. We have adapted but we are accustomed to that. It was just too new an experience the first time and, so, a new means or method is now in place for this.
We understand different types of entities have on occasion either crashed here or debarked here and that some were held captive, some alive. Can you tell me how long the longest survivor was for these beings?
The signal, in the sense of a live spirit, was for several years. It, too, withered like a vine. We could have interceded at any time and brought them back but it was necessary to understand all we could. The crash was staged to give contact. It was partly an event intentionally to watch the reaction of humans and to learn all we can. The entities who died were prepared to accept that consequence. It was sad that it had to be this way. We are more careful in preventing cultural contamination that might affect your species. Contact is now more controlled. The exchange of entities and humans was a later experiment that also was only partially successful. An evolution of change was made to adapt to the situation to make access to you to understand better possible. We were interested in your nuclear energy and its possible uses in your society. We recognized its great benefits and pitfalls and we wished to help in monitoring and perhaps preventing mistakes that we made millions of years earlier. It, the crash, that occurred, is not common. We take care to prevent such events but we are mortal also and as such we are vulnerable to mortal tendencies. It was an unfortunate accident and one of several in an on-going exploration of your world.
As you may be aware, they have been working with individuals who believe that they have made contact, usually, against their will. My primary concern is their emotional and psychological resilience and well being. Would you care to offer some advice that I may use with them to help them understand and help them cope with what seems very hard for some of them?
Much of these contacts are often by beings who are performing unethical procedures that we do not condone. Part of our presence here is to monitor the activity of these other beings who often, for both selfish and unselfish reasons, exploit humans’ physical qualities. They do not care many of them because of their own selfish needs. Others they traumatize. Much energy is wasted in calming abductees. The context of these contacts is often not appropriate.
Is there anyway for these people to resist?
There is little they can do. They are at a great disadvantage. They are often traumatized and in their shock of what is occurring, it is unfortunate this is happening. It may be part of the process that will eventually, with each contact become easier, but they can resist by their strength of will and overcome their fear. The fear confuses and clouds perceptions and communication. Strength of will
If I can give them suggestions to their unconscious mind to suspend their fear during these events, would that enable them to come through the events in better psychological and emotional condition?
No. Replacing fear alone will not accomplish this. It will be replacing fear combined with a sense of self-worth and strength to resist in an emotional and physical sense. The entities will be confounded by that knowing their subject is not so off guard. This will make it more difficult for them to carry out their purposes on unwilling subjects. A spiritual and emotional strength is the step forward. Suspending the fear only will create a passive being making it easier for the positive energy that can be like a wave of energy that is possible will help create a sense of strength and coping with the loss of control they all most experience. Control is an illusion. It can be accepted and in the end it is when abducted to that their sense of self worth will help them prevail.
Would it be helpful to point out to these people that they are truly spiritual beings and that aspect of them cannot be harmed?
The spiritual part is on a plane that has a strength of its own that will see one through these difficult times. It is what connects to a higher being that makes such invulnerability possible.
These particular entities that are abducting, are they actually creating a hybrid species?
Yes. Not always successfully. Their work continues often these hybrids require higher maintenance and they do not always sustain themselves. They have to continually renew a certain biological functions to make this happen. They are not autonomous yet. They are trying to evolve to adapt to be more compatible in this place.
This place being earth?
Yes.
Where are they kept while that process has not yet happened? Are they kept off-planet?
Yes. Some are left for periods of time to help them socially adapt, but only for a limited degree. The process is still on-going and it is difficult for them to be successful. We are also involved in seeing that to some extent that it is not possible for it to be successful. We are interceding and trying to prevent further adaptation.
So these hybrids are not able to procreate then?
No. Not the same way. They must be produced and manufactured and the process is complex and not efficient.
I would think it would be difficult to have the resources on hand to feed them.
Certain physical needs must be met. This, too, puts a burden many entities can live on energy or forms of resources that are very efficient. Hybrids live as if being connected to species here. They also adopt the inefficiencies of beings of this whole planet. They require certain things they are not fully capable for living independently here yet.
Has, what we would call a grey, ever been autopsied on this planet?
Yes. Early on, in the events in New Mexico an opportunity existed for that but other human hoaxes have clouded a clear picture of the situation.
Human beings, they love to imitate don’t they? Is there something that you would simply like to share with us without my asking the questions?
This is an ongoing communication - we welcome this. In time, a larger picture will be formed about the purposes of all entities involved on all sides. Much hysteria in your culture is prevalent, surrounding our contacts with you. Some of it is fabricated and some of it is real. Some is done for their purposes, sometimes for selfish purposes, short-term use without understanding long-term consequences. Such is the state at this time. It will take further steps to clarify the true purpose. Part of this is the human limitation of communication with and between individuals of your species’. They are vulnerable to deception and views which create in human cultures strain and strife.
Thank you for that. I think it is time to bring Steve back to this level of consciousness and we look forward to talking. Thank you for this time and we look forward to others.
Thank you and maybe I will eventually understand why mankind is so terrified to facing something new.
Wish with compassion too express that many entities do not follow ethical precepts that have created this situation for your patients. And we regret that - and in our own way, we are interceding to prevent such trauma to your people.
Thank you for that. Steve, Han is stepping back now and he will come another time.
Steve is brought back from his trance.
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