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Post by Steve on Jan 2, 2012 6:00:56 GMT -6
Thanks Steve . I've noted that at the end of sessions, it is said that you are "tired". You don't seem tired during the session, and later when you let us in on the session. Would you explain for us? Do you feel a certain way after a while? Mary as a rule does not allow sessions to go more than two hours each. This seems to go for all of her sessions, regardless if it is a session to quit smoking to an alien abduction regression. I am not tired during the sessions, near the end I am and Mary is very good at reading that in me. It is more mentally or perhaps the right word is psychically tired (?) rather than physically tired. It feels more like one feels after taking a important school exam. A little drained but happy? Mary asks me tough questions, ones she expects me not to be able to answer. The String theory questions and multiple Universe questions are examples. I know of them, but not too many specifics. What is so interesting is not only does this thought in me seems to know the answer, but even explains it in such a simple easy fashion, perhaps reflecting there is a depth of knowledge there too. Han is never arrogant, and explains talking across to you, never down to you. Sometimes he seems to struggle searching for a precise word that conveys best what he means. Mary is amused at some of the common phrases Han uses too. I (Steve) have been told I have a gift for allegory, and sometimes Han seems to borrow that in explaining. Sometimes Han even knows the next question before Mary utters it, which surprises her. It could mean Han is telepathic naturally, and he holds back in polite consideration. The natural thing 'Steve' thinks it is more just a logical progression of the question. The answer of a what, is followed by a why or a how. So I doubt it is all that significant. On January 11th, 2012, we will have been conducting a session every week without fail for 5 months. If considered as number of 'flight hours', I now have over 52 plus hours accumulated under hypnosis on this project. Long term effects? I seem more relaxed and at peace, less stressed, where once I used to think you needed to make a dinner reservation, I now seem very comfortable just walking along the city street, see a restaurant we both may like and just trying it spontaneously impromptu. I seem to be active, fully occupied, thankful for each day, and seem to have gained some insights into something about the Universe and what may inhabit it perhaps. Mary sometimes kids me being a skeptic. I am more 'neutral' now. I would never have done this if I was anything but open to exploring it, something entirely new. Many others have done such sessions before with supposed aliens, but nothing seems to have been described in such intimate detail. Someday we will need to count the number of questions Mary has asked. ;D In the session Sunday, Mary even had me imagine myself what an 'alien' might be like. She borrowed images from 'Avatar' with some distinct differences. You can read about it more when the session is posted here. Steve
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2012 10:53:22 GMT -6
Steve..there are many explanations for your 'entity'..that Han actually is an alien speaking through you or with you..that this is in some way your own buried knowledge or even another incarnation or an entity from some astral plane. What matters is what you take from it, in my opinion. If it's done service to you, helped you to relax and enjoy your time here more, then how can it be other than a good thing I absolutely thank you for sharing it with us!!! Hugss Jo
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2012 0:39:42 GMT -6
Thank you, steve.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2012 2:10:33 GMT -6
I hope he does come to visit you Steve... but only because you seem to want him to. Then at least you will know...
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Post by Steve on Jan 3, 2012 2:14:11 GMT -6
I guess JoKelly that has been at the crux of it all. Am I tapping into buried knowledge, or someone else is dropping in for a while. There maybe in all of us untapped knowledge we all carry around with us. Saved in our unconscious memories as well as our conscious ones. Our unconscious attics?
Being exposed to hypnosis repetitively might permit other parts of our minds to come out we may all have. Mary says I have a gift, but I think I am not that special. Like catching a foul ball in a stadium filled with thousands of people. To some extent you can position yourself in locations where one is more likely to increase the probability of catching something. But the rest is all randomness, a lucky spot captured in time and space. Yet foul balls occur all the time, and people do catch them. Somebody does.
Mary I know has many thoughts, and they will I am sure appear in any book that comes along.
If Han does not visit in one way, I cannot complain, he in other ways visits each week where ever he utimately comes from. It will answer much if he does visit. I have no sense of deception as Paulette fears for me about it. It is possible, but there are open skies above us that go on forever, they can pluck me or anyone of us anytime. And there is nothing one can do about that if it occurs.
Even before the hypnosis sessions, for a long time I never worried about aliens or abductions. I have met many in interviewing them who do worry. It is wasted energy. Whats important is to enjoy life best we can, and know there are troubles, and we get through them, and enjoy what we have, we get on with our lives, life is precious.
Steve
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Post by auntym on Jan 3, 2012 11:31:31 GMT -6
steve... i'd be curious to know if 'Han' has any knowledge of the new jersey case..... any chance?
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Post by Steve on Jan 3, 2012 16:35:50 GMT -6
steve... i'd be curious to know if 'Han' has any knowledge of the new jersey case..... any chance? Mary already asked about the New Jersey thing. We discussed about New Jersey earlier in the day before our latest session. So Mary sometimes includes timely spontaneous questions simply because you never know sometimes unless you ask. Han replied he did not know anything about it. This did not play in the decision to stamp the New Jersey story a hoax at this time, but Han's reply does not seem contrary with our conclusion either. Steve
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Post by auntym on Jan 3, 2012 18:04:15 GMT -6
steve... i'd be curious to know if 'Han' has any knowledge of the new jersey case..... any chance? Mary already asked about the New Jersey thing. We discussed about New Jersey earlier in the day before our latest session. So Mary sometimes includes timely spontaneous questions simply because you never know sometimes unless you ask. Han replied he did not know anything about it. This did not play in the decision to stamp the New Jersey story a hoax at this time, but Han's reply does not seem contrary with our conclusion either. Steve OH DARN! .... thanks steve, han and mary....
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Post by lois on Jan 3, 2012 20:23:40 GMT -6
Steve.. Did Hans know of you as a child and you were unaware of him? I have been wanting to ask this for quite awhile now.. Maybe there is a Hans in other peoples lives but they are unaware of.. When you met Hans in your first session did he somehow feel familiar to you?
Our worldly reality is all we know.. Sky gave a good title when he named this forum..
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Post by Steve on Jan 4, 2012 2:43:34 GMT -6
Steve.. Did Hans know of you as a child and you were unaware of him? I have been wanting to ask this for quite awhile now.. Maybe there is a Hans in other peoples lives but they are unaware of.. When you met Hans in your first session did he somehow feel familiar to you? Our worldly reality is all we know.. Sky gave a good title when he named this forum.. I don't know Lois. All this is just a bit strange to begin with we both must admit. Mary before we began this 'experiment' regressed me over a year ago I believe. In that session I relived a dream or more accurately a nightmare, in which new things were noticed which redefined it in a new way. The demon in my nightmare turned out to be a friend of some kind. Was this Han? This presence was 'Han like' in nature, but unclear. It is a nice thought. Perhaps at some time in the future maybe it can be explored further. A hug for Lois, Steve
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Post by lois on Jan 4, 2012 13:28:47 GMT -6
Steve.. Did Hans know of you as a child and you were unaware of him? I have been wanting to ask this for quite awhile now.. Maybe there is a Hans in other peoples lives but they are unaware of.. When you met Hans in your first session did he somehow feel familiar to you? Our worldly reality is all we know.. Sky gave a good title when he named this forum.. I don't know Lois. All this is just a bit strange to begin with we both must admit. Mary before we began this 'experiment' regressed me over a year ago I believe. In that session I relived a dream or more accurately a nightmare, in which new things were noticed which redefined it in a new way. The demon in my nightmare turned out to be a friend of some kind. Was this Han? This presence was 'Han like' in nature, but unclear. It is a nice thought. Perhaps at some time in the future maybe it can be explored further. A hug for Lois, Steve THank you Steve Hugs
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2012 13:33:35 GMT -6
~hugz Lois and Steve too~
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Post by Steve on Jan 8, 2012 4:21:10 GMT -6
Here is session XXIII (23).
Near the end of this session, you may notice a demonstration of 'free-will' while under hypnosis. Usually the person in trance does not have an opprtunity to make free judgements because the therapist has them fully engaged and following the sound and commands of the therapist's voice. In this case, I am sitting on the sidelines (the usual case) as an observer. This gives one more opportunity to interject into the conversation or take a little strole in another time and place. In essence, under these special circumstances, Mary placed me in a situation where I was freer. Mary thought it was kind of funny when I (as steve) chimmed in. ;D
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HAN Through Steve __________ under Hypnosis Therapist: Mary _________
Session XXIII (23) December 29, 2011
(Client is wearing new headset and some adjustments for sound are required.)
Client inducted with a vision of walking among the trees and gardens in Japan during the Japanese Cherry Blossom Festival.
Han is invited to sit with us on one of the three benches in the garden.
Steve, please describe what you see.
Steve:
Han. Steve seems to be caught up in his reverie.
Steve: Yes. I’m here.
Please describe what you are seeing.
Steve: It is a beautiful setting you have created. Sitting in the shade under a group of trees. The bright sunshine out over the sea, an inlet, a pagoda, a lake, very peaceful. Everything is in this beautiful order. The garden, the pond the tea garden, koi fish.
It speaks well of the Japanese people.
Very beautiful people, bowing and very polite, very courteous. One is in a kimono. Han would be very happy here. I think Han feels very comfortable with the mountains, the social order, and Japan itself.
Han, when you are ready please step forward. Steve, please step back so that Han can come forward. Thank you.
I am here, Mary.
So kind of you to come this evening.
EARTH HISTORY
As you know, sometimes items fall out of the sky onto this planet. I am talking about such things as fish and frogs. In January in Great Britain, apples fell out of the sky. Can you tell me what processes might have occurred for apples to fall out of the sky?
Apples. I don’t have an answer. That is an interesting problem.
Other things fall out of the sky sometimes, frogs, fish, but we understand how this may happen.
Apples are a mystery.
Perhaps a bleed through from another universe?
Is this an isolated event?
Yes.
It is possible a transport plane accidentally dropped a load off the back ramp, but it is not logical for humans to transport fruit that way. It is more economical to transport them by surface transportation. A sudden tornado must have come down into an orchard and lifted the fruit in the updrafts depositing them nearby.
It is something we can think about.
This would require more study.
I would like to ask you about the twin towers and the World Trade Center. I saw a video that put forth the idea that there were actually explosives inside the Twin Towers that had been preset. The idea was that these towers were intentionally brought down because the owners wanted to get rid of them. Is there any truth in that idea?
Explosives were used in an earlier attempt a number of years prior to the 2001 catastrophe. There were no explosives in the twin tower catastrophe that occurred on September 11, 2001. The impacts & heat caused from the aircraft fuel fires affected the structural dynamics of the buildings, combined with gravity brought down the towers. The heat softened and weakened the steel structures not designed for those local concentrated temperatures. The weight above worked against the building, causing the cascading effect with horrifying energy. This energy was felt by us great distances away.
They were trapped but I understand that there were also thousands of souls who came to assist them.
This was true. It was humanity in turmoil and in this turmoil came great goodness in the desire to help and console, the outpouring bravery of nearby persons who sacrificed themselves to help others. The structural collapses were due to the heat, combined with gravity, weakening the structures and then a cascading effect bringing down the buildings.
As sad as that is, I would rather hear that than to learn it was intentionally set by the owners of the building.
Our understanding is that the new owner of these buildings suffered a great financial loss due to an insurance issue. There was no predetermined or premeditated act other than by those who flew the aircraft into the buildings who wished to destroy themselves and others for shallow and meaningless reasons.
Han. Are you familiar with something called the HAR-1 molecule?
No.
It was recently discovered and it was found to be unique to human beings. It is believed to be that element that turned us from one species into the so called human species. I will leave that subject for a later time.
HAR-1?
HAR-1. I believe it is a molecule rather than a gene.
Genetic properties?
Yes.
Both ribonucleic and deoxyribonucleic?
Yes. They were able to determine that it was not found in the chimpanzee or the ape or whatever species we were checking.
Unique to humans?
So far, that is what we believe.
I will study this. I apologize for not being able to answer at this time.
No apology required. It is simply the enjoyment of us learning.
We have talked a little bit about Tesla. A lecturer said that Tesla’s materials had been taken by the government and some, if not all of the material, went to Los Alamos National Laboratory to become weaponized. Is any of that true?
The government knew that Tesla had many bold concepts for the transportation and transmission of electrical energies. He wished to exploit for the benefit and comfort and convenience of the world population, to use his ideas in a beneficial manner. Some of his concepts have been experimented with by later scientists who wished to exploit any kind of ideas for weapons development. So far, they have not been very efficient weapons and somewhat impractical. The transmission of different energies in a battlefield situation has not been quite developed to the point of practical use. In the current state of human warfare where rapid movement is essential, so far, Tesla-based weapons would be impractical in those situations. However, in the future, this could change.
Do you know the name Thomas Townsend Brown, a researcher in anti-gravity in the 1920s?
Thomas Townsend Brown was exploring the possibility of defying gravity for the purposes of exploring to see if it was possible, with no particular precept in mind as to how it might be applied. However, such abilities would be of immense benefit in many fields, particularly transportation and in certain industrial applications, but primarily ones of transportation, ground and flight. It is not the same as levitation where magnetic and electrical forces are at work. These in contrast are repulsive forces, which often exist in dark matter and in the physical quantum properties, which we often use in our craft that are seen visiting your world. They use properties that require energies which are difficult for humans to presently imagine, much less to harness. However, it is quite within the capabilities of many species. The almost boundless amount of energy can be used in an almost utility fashion to provide the ability to move through an atmosphere and beyond the atmosphere. Brown explored these possibilities and could see the benefits. He endeavored to explore the nature of gravity in the hope that one day he would invent an anti-gravity force to for humanity to use.
It doesn’t surprise me that a scientist or someone might come up with a very advanced idea for their time, but the technology of the time prevents the concept from being applied.
Many successful concepts are a combination of the right invention at the right place and the right time. Many concepts are too early and exist only theoretically waiting for the other sciences required before such concepts can be fulfilled.
That is probably a universal situation.
This is a common issue. It is a situation that is common on many worlds. Many ideas are explored. Often we see other planets in their earlier states making the same discoveries that, in their path, can follow similar paths to ours. We see in ourselves the processes to arrive at a solution in others later. We can almost anticipate what will happen next for them in the logical progression of scientific development and technology.
That must cause both happiness and sadness for you.
We were alarmed at first with your introduction of atomic energy. We have observed many uses of it on your planet. We had our own atomic age, long ago. We know the great blessings and great dangers of each. The magic genie in the bottle being released. You understand the concept. We have our “genies” too. The genies do not come from the newly discovered energies. The dangers come from within. The morals and stage of development of a civilization. Is it pure enough to handle such energies? That is where the danger lies.
Do we human beings have systems that can cause earthquakes or cause extreme storms?
These are being studied for possible use for weapons, particularly in China. This is studied. The weaponization of earthquakes is less likely due to the inaccessible areas of your Earth’s crust to experiment with such energies. The energy released in a nuclear weapon pales in relation to the energy released by an earthquake. The forces cannot be well understood or directed even if such energy forces could be released. There would need to be a trigger at a critical point to release such energies in the Earth’s crust. These are ones which are not so accessible to facilitate such release with precision and so this is beyond the reach of man. However, the study of use of weather as a weapon is of great interest at present.
I find that a very chilling idea.
They are very frustrated though. Whether it is attainable remains to be seen. The chances are good but it will take much time to understand. Also, such weather can turn on those who wish to master it. Nature is often jealous when it is being manipulated. It has a way of fighting back. The wisdom in China has a long history. They should reflect on this and know that, in their past, they have often found much wisdom and should know better than to manipulate weather. So far, it does not look attainable, but the intent is there. We expect they will continue to be unsuccessful for some time.
Have you been observing the robotics industry in Japan? Presently, they are creating robots to look like themselves.
Robots that look like humans?
Fascinating, these shapes for robots.
The quizzical thing to me is that they have worked very hard to give the robotic face the ability to express emotions because they realize that humans interact so much more easily when they think their messages are being heard and there is an emotional response. I can’t imagine the robots having any emotions but they are being designed to simply give the impression of emotional response.
It seems to be in consideration of its human masters who wish to interact. Robots, in a way, mirror their creators. The creation of such servants is a very primitive early accomplishment. This is commendable. Compared to some of the androids that exist on other worlds, particularly versions of species you refer to as grays, many of them have artificial intelligence and biomechanical abilities which would astonish the Japanese. They appear as life forms. Since humans have no comparison, it would be easy to misinterpret them as biological entities. They are a combination of technology and biology in a form that permits them to explore planets and go, as they say, into harms way. Their form, as technology, permits them to be expendable.
Can they feel pain if they are injured?
Yes. It is not a pain as in a discomfort so much as it is an impulse signal of potential damage. One could place such signals in the same context as pain. It is not as sophisticated as the sensory and nerve endings that most life forms possess, including many forms of life on Earth. They are aware of certain harmful stimuli that might cause them damage and they take preventive steps to avoid such damage. They repair themselves in a fashion that would seem more mechanical, but is done on a very small and molecular level. They almost constitute a new life form, yet they are merely analog copies of true biological grays, many of which control these android artificial forms.
That helps to realize that they are copies.
They are copies. They act as servants. They are assistants, seen often by abductees. Often they are smaller in stature. This is for a practical reason, because many more can be stored in remote, require less support compared to the needs of a biological equivalent. They are also easier to conceal. They can perform many mechanical tasks that require a smaller body size. Many humans understand this. In your aircraft industries, during your Second World War, you hired many small people to perform mechanical construction in small, confined areas. This is a similar concept. Often it is the mere size that makes them useful since many more can be manufactured. Creating a number of them is not a difficult thing.
ZETA RETICULI HISTORY
Are you currently living on your original home planet or another one of the many hundreds that your species occupies?
I travel occasionally, in the physical sense, to different worlds. This is part of my role in communication, but mainly, my focus is on the outer edge where new species are introduced to the larger community, such as Earth, where I am performing the role of the diplomat, or facilitator, for the initial interface which provides the pathways for wider contact. I also travel telepathically to many more worlds that do not require a physical presence, but I can contact and communicate, such as we are now, in a sufficient manner which is suitable for the moment. The time may come when we will meet in a physical sense. That great day will come and one that we all look forward to. We will not be afraid. It will be like visiting an old acquaintance again. This is part of my role. On my home planet and the hundreds of others that exist, there are many transgenic or blended species that make a form of generic life. It creates less interplanetary rivalries with this blending of species among many planets. The pride of one culture does not dominate over another. It is one where we are all the same.
It stops tribalism.
Exactly. It eliminates tribalism. There is universality, yet where each species still has their own heritage. We do not deny these. It is good to know where we come from. We know that we are just pinpoints of light that form a larger spectrum of colors that we all share in joy. Such interactions with other species might shock humans, but in time, you as a species may able to understand. It is one of the walls that we will scale together.
I find that a great relief.
Our conversation has taken a turn that is quite enjoyable in where the conversation has led us.
SPIRITUALITY
CONTACT
Steve has discussed with me a case where the human witnesses may have a close relationship with a female which they have told Steve is a ‘hybrid’. Can you share more about this person? How does she live in our society, what is her purpose here?
The being described is a female ‘hybrid’ or transgenic being assigned to this world. She is much older than her youthful human appearance may show. She lives modestly and is employed in a local health food store. She has exposed some of her human friends to her situation due to frequent visits by others of her kind. Her telepathic abilities are able to create strong emotional links between herself & humans they would not expect. As a result, they are very private and protective of her.
She is a very fast typist on your computers and is very useful in the office. Computers are no problem for her. Besides the bookkeeping, she is working on her customer skills. She is becoming very adept and she focuses on this in her efforts to blend in. It provides opportunities to learn. She also encounters many people in that working environment who have a life style that would be more open to a being or person such as her. They are more and more accepting of her. This is why she has been placed in this work situation.
It also gives her something to talk about in that health and food create a good conversational base.
Yes. These are things that are mutually beneficial. There are moments when she could easily project thoughts and images into customers’ minds, even the desire to purchase products, but she is careful not to manipulate her human customers too much. As you can imagine, she also can read their thoughts so, in a sense, she is a perfect salesperson with insights that the human would not fully appreciate. She is quite comfortable and in some ways the situation is easy for her with the computer and the interaction with customers. The health food store values her as an employee. She is quite comfortable, almost to the point of it being very easy for her. It is almost amusing. She is really quite clever.
I can see why she would not want to do something that would stand out too much, like becoming a doctor because her work might create too much interest.
Her appearance is deceptive. She looks younger than she is by human standards. She is much more advanced in maturity and intellect, as one would expect with someone of her physicality. She may be an employee in a health food store. However, their life spans are such that she could easily be a doctor in the future or explore any lifestyle of her choice. Other planets are also at her disposal in terms of other lifestyles. She would simply need to adjust to whatever social interaction to blend in. She has the ability to work with ease in many areas of human activity and careers paths.
She exists as a hybrid and works here on this planet. My think is that your species may have created hybrids out of others species that are not human but with capabilities, such as on the planet we have discussed, Vestia or Keppler 22B. Have you created hybrids on other planets with other species?
Hybrid is an Earth concept. On other worlds, we do not need to be covert. It is not necessary.
Co-mingling does that work better?
They are accepted, and, much like a diversified society, many living together in harmony. Because humans have certain things they need to understand first, they need to catch up, and because humans traumatize easily, the level of permeation of other cultures in this world is more prevalent than most here on your world realize. It is not something to be feared. It is already here & exists. The expectation is that it will remain so, interacting in harmony and peace. There is no concern. It is merely another place where others live who are not of this world.
I would think that the co-mingling happens because one must make continuous adjustments living on a new planet.
Such co-mingling is the result of in-direct genetic manipulation of world, no physical interaction directly. In the frightening scientific fiction futures many of your novelists create, it is not turning the world upside down. It is turning the visitors “right side up” to adapt to the planet. It is not changing the planet to accommodate the incoming species, as many have speculated about conquering species forcing inhabitants to accommodate to the invader’s way of life. This is a human concept. It is not the way of the universe. Many cultures can genetically adapt to the local environment. It is still life and it brings great diversity.
I can understand that if we view bodies just as vessels.
The individual adapts to the planet. A force of an army does not come to change a planet to their needs. That is an archaic concept and that is not actually how it is done. The hybrid is one of many and she is a lovely human hybrid person, not by appearance, but by her life. A life engaging in the local culture and society. She both contributes to and benefits from it. You have an old phrase you use which expresses the concept; “When in Rome, do as the Romans do”. Life is what you make it and her assignment was to be placed here. She has done well.
What do you call species that we would call a hybrid but you would have another name for them? How would you refer to them? A blended species.
That is a good term. I like that.
Different heredities but containing that which is needed to adapt. They carry their heritage with them but they also must physically and socially adjust to the local culture and environment. We call them blended species.
There must be many, many types all over.
This blending does not create distinct, individual species. Of the many who visit this planet, humans have noticed that most are humanoid like. The blending of species is the reason for this. There are no distinct species but more a blended range of many life forms from many origins that create a form that is successful in living in that particular environment.
THE UNIVERSE
You and I are aware that there are parallel universes and I assume that they have different vibrations. One scientist described the separation between these parallel universes as a curtain of quantum noise. Do you think that might apply?
We have commented about the permeable membranes separating universes. The description as a quantum noise barrier is not inconsistent with this. Many species in the universe, using quantum physics, will pass through these barriers. There is a boundary between universes and a quantum concept of a noise is not inconsistent. It is an observable barrier between universes. A noise provides a demarcation between them, which does not cause difficulty. It merely differentiates a frequency on one side with another frequency and resonance on the other side. This barrier prevents the two universes from merging so that the integrity of both universes can be maintained. However, they can be passed through. They are permeable. This is a type of barrier without being a barrier. As an analogy, it is much like the speed of sound and the accumulation of shock waves, which if correctly understood, can be passed through without difficulty.
How would you differentiate between different dimensions and their demarcation points as compared to the membranes that separate the universes?
They are not dissimilar. The Universe is not a far away place. It is a close as a layer of skin. It is that close and that immediate. There can be other dimensions existing within a known universe and, also, correspondingly, other dimensions in other universes that share the same properties. Some can be crossed over. One determination of whether a universe has been crossed is through this “noise barrier” of quantum physics, but, also, another dimension will have a different appearance than another dimension will. Another universe will not look too dissimilar than an adjacent universe. However, dimensions can be differentiated due to their own physical properties that make them unique. This is what distinguishes between another dimension and another universe.
It is as though “nature” has sought out every opportunity to exist in as many ways as possible.
It acts often as not a containment barrier but also as a release valve. When the dynamics of one dimension or universe reaches a certain state, it can be allowed to momentarily displace another dimension or other universe. Nature has allowed for this in a very remarkable accommodating way. The stresses, strains and dynamics cohabitate and allow for each other.
I was not aware of these stresses. Thank you.
It is merely that sometimes the energies of one can displace the other temporarily. It is more a kind of equilibrium between the dimensions.
I think we can see that in other systems as they attempt to return to equilibrium.
There is stability and whoever created this was very comprehensive in allowing for these forces to intermingle.
Have we humans ever traveled to Mars in an alien space ship?
Have humans?
Well, they could also be hybrids.
Have they traveled there?
They could have just been orbiting.
In a number of abduction scenarios it is easy for many craft to make such a trip or give a tour, as you say. It is a bit eye opening for humans. Many who consider themselves quite ordinary are now placed in the situation that they are way ahead of many of their own species who are trained for such travel. It is a demonstration of the accessibility and freedom that such technology provides that almost anyone can be transported to such places. They see much of Mars in a state that shows a planet that has passed its prime and yet, with the introduction of humans, a new beginning for Mars will happen again. It is one which will eventually turn Mars into a garden, not as Earth is, but in the same manner. Mars is both in it’s past and in it’s future. Its present state is almost a dormant one, waiting for visitors to bring life to this planet once again.
I imagine that would be a 100 years from now, or so.
Longer than this. More like a millennium. It is waiting for the time when it will flourish once more. If you could see past oceans on Mars, you would see an ocean not with the same diversity that Earth has had, but one still with life. Its future, touched by the hands of humans, shows bright promise, far into the future.
Did Mars ever have trees?
Not trees as you would imagine. In some respects, yes, they would be considered trees, but more like large shrubs. Yes. I am looking farther back. I was premature in my assessment. I can see a time when oceans were teeming with life and shorelines with strange and wondrous trees and plants, filling the surface.
What a wonderful vision.
It is second fiddle to Earth but Mars made its claim as a living planet also. It is still vibrant, merely dormant. Man will soon discover that there is life under its surface in the form of microbes and ancient bacteria which have been in a dormant state waiting to be reborn.
OTHER
I would like to ask about _____________. He has had ____ operation now. Will this help ____now?
Steve: Han is sitting in the garden, sitting with his legs crossed on a mat on a lawn, surrounded by all bonsai plants. It is a beautiful garden. You are also sitting there with him. It is very peaceful. There are chimes. There are tall trees that have been immaculately trimmed to not block the view down the hill and of the mountains. It is not a very tall mountain but it has a very shaded forest and pathways.
Steve. I would like you to go ahead and walk through that garden in silence while I talk to Han. Would you do that for me please?
Steve: Yes. Excuse me.
Thank you so much. You can tell me about it later.
Han, are you available?
My question is about ________ and whether or not ___ operation is going to extend ____ life beyond what we discussed previously. You know ________.
It depends if this human follows their doctor’s instructions and stops smoking to allow ____ body to heal. If ___ does not, it will compound the problem and his life will be foreshortened. IF ___follows the doctors and discontinues ___ smoking ___ should have a reasonable extension to ___ life. ___has a critical time right now in ___ healing. It is uncertain whether ___has stopped smoking. The urges to smoke are still strong. ___is hoping and trying to not smoke but nicotine addiction and the psychological habit are powerful.
It is difficult for us humans.
We have noticed this.
OPEN SESSION FOR COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS
It is time to bring Steve back.
Yes. He is very deep. It is time to bring Steve back as you do so adeptly and skillfully. With that respect, I leave this in your hands.
Goodnight until we meet again.
I look forward to our next contact. We will continue these enjoyable conversations.
Thank you very much.
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Post by Steve on Jan 8, 2012 5:41:13 GMT -6
HAN Through Steve ____________under Hypnosis Therapist: Mary ______
Session XXIV (24) January 1, 2012
Steve is placed into a hypnotic trance, with a special journey to an Avatar like setting. Therapist “transforms” Steve’s body into an Avatar like body. It is detailed and designed for climbing.
Han, are you able to pick up on our communication?
Yes. I am here in this beautiful setting. I see that Steve has been transformed to a young energetic …. (Han laughs.) He knows me, greeting me. There is a ship that I arrived in on this planet and I have materialized before him in this forest and he is happy to see me. He is different, but not different. He crouches down. Thoughts of ‘I am short’, he touches me. We run our hands across each other’s forearms, clasping each other’s forearms. Clasping the forearm is an extension of a handshake, but of deeper significance signifying not an initial greeting, but one between close old friends.
Steve: Happily, like a child, Han is climbing on my back and I am walking through the forest, crouching over somewhat at times to avoid branches so Han is comfortable. Han is on my shoulders and we are walking through a dark, yet fluorescent-lit forest. The forest makes it’s own background sounds. It is so beautiful. There are trees, plants, and floating animals that are like butterflies. I am joining up with my friends. They see Han on my back. They draw up close to me. Their hands are touching us and surrounding us. Han is taking in their thoughts and they receive back thoughts of his travels, where he has been, sharing what has been going on. Some entities seem to have been expecting him and we move on into the forest.
Steve, it is time for you to let Han come with me while you return to your friends in the woods. We will meet again and compare adventures.
Steve: Han has climbed down onto the ground. I have climbed up into a tree for the time being, which work as this planet's pathways permitting other places to visit.
Thank you. Please have fun and I will see you later.
Steve: I will see you.
Are you with me Han?
Yes. I am with you Mary.
Thank you so much.
The glow from these beings, they feel like I do. Their planet, it is always a joy coming here.
You know this place?
It is a garden with very large trees, some the size of mountains. They form the cities of this very organic community.
I am imagining it. It is breathtaking.
I am placing the thoughts into your mind. I feel you enjoying them. It is a glow, visual and emotion together. I am returning to a forest. It is not a scary place. It is filled with life and wonders. It is understood. It is beautiful here.
I can see the colors glowing here and there.
Earth has many beautiful places too, but this is a special place.
Thank you.
I smell the scent of beautiful orchids. The air is moist but not too humid, just very clean, to answer your question.
I have an affinity for flowers, as you know.
EARTH HISTORY
You, know, of course, about the crystal skulls placed around this planet. Are there crystal skulls on other planets? What is the function of the skulls either separately or together?
There are crystal skulls on other worlds. They are the psychic anchors which provide one means to connect with those worlds. The shapes of these skulls are in the shape of the entities who placed them there. It is their unique way of leaving a signature all will recognize by their shape so that others can understand who placed them there. They are psychic anchors which provide a view and interconnection with the beings there, directly or indirectly. They also act as a kind of landmark, the way an astronaut places a flag on the moon. These are left as the signature of the visitor. They are not territorial in purpose. It is more merely leaving a cellular telephone behind for others to contact them, if they wish.
It is made out of an enduring material.
Yes. In a psychic, telepathic way, once the beings there learn the ability to use these skulls as communication devices on multiple levels, then their purpose is fulfilled. They are not sentinels, just a phone booth left behind for the appropriate time. It is an analogy that you can relate to in your world.
Definitely can.
Do you know the name Thales of Miletus who was an Ionian considered the Father of Science on this planet? He was a seafarer, an inventor and discovered that nature interrupts and controls life, not the gods. He was also the Father of Geometry in his time.
Thales is credited with the origin of human Theoretical Inquiry. Thales was controversial in his time to look beyond superstition and to observe, theorize and rationalize. Many on your planet have grown to follow this in science. It is a logical & correct path. One must ultimately understand that science, alone, will not explain the full understanding of the Universe, though science is a great part of it. There is always new information to absorb and to categorize. In this process, superstitions can form. As it was in his time, it is in our time. Beyond the physical world, there is a spiritual and telepathic ones that current scientists are only beginning to understand. It is an example of how science and knowledge evolve.
In Oman, there is the tenth largest known cave in the world. The culture in that area believes that it was the meeting place of what they call the Gen or the Genie spirit. My question about that cave is: Were they seeing ‘ultra terrestrials’ or maybe ETs?
Caves are often used as temporary dwellings for many off-world beings. These temporary dwellings serve them until more direct interaction is deemed appropriate. Otherwise, we would use your oceans. We use the vastness of your oceans to conceal our presence but, we are deprived of direct interaction with humans at the same time. So caves serve this purpose in history. The ultra terrestrials and extra terrestrials can possibly be a subcategory of the same thing. Much of extra terrestrial ability to travel is done interdimensionally. Interdimensional beings can be extra terrestrial and terrestrial at the same time. They can appear to be omnipresent and can be misinterpreted by more primitive cultures as spiritual beings. Ultra terrestrials can be extra terrestrials or they can be interdimensional. I hope I have expressed the differentiation correctly, that they can be one and the same, and also different at the same time, depending upon their nature and how they use their abilities. We are, in a sense, as ETs, time travelers and interdimensional beings because we use interdimensional abilities as a function of our travels. But we are still physical beings. We are also time travelers as a function of our travels too. The physical Universe, in a linear sense is a traveler through time. Every being is a time traveler obviously as they move through time but the more accepted notion is perhaps time travel means jumping beyond linear time. There is time slipping to hop from one time to another and the paradoxes that often can result. We have talked about this before, how time travel is a necessary coinsidence of space travel. Ultra- terrestrials are familiar with this too. It is one part of the dynamics of space travel.
Then, my definition for ultra terrestrials would mean that they would not have a physical body. Does that make sense to you?
Yes, it is possible. You spoke once of dreams having an energy without a physical presence. Pure energy without form. This is an interesting concept. It is possible that the definition of ultra terrestrial could be incorporated in this.
That is an idea. I will have to give it some thought.
It may just be a new term for an old concept or it could be a new discovery. It will require more investigation.
That is an excellent idea.
The book of Genesis. Does it actually take its material from Sumerian texts?
Some of what Genesis describes is based on many of the influences of the cultures that preceded it. The story of Genesis is actually, if you ignore the time reference, not an inaccurate description of the creation of the Universe from a singular event, formation of time, formation of stars and planets, life. The progression is not inconsistent with the biblical legend. Only the time, in human concept, is inappropriate but the progression does follow a loose accurate representation of the processes of the Universe.
The reference in Genesis to the firmament, what is the analogy? Perhaps for the planets?
Yes. It is a lovely and safe description.
I was watching a documentary on some monks living in the French Alps who have taken vows of silence. It was called “Into the Silence.” How would your species react to that kind of life style which seems so foreign to your own and why would a person choose that path?
It is a curious behavior. Many monks have a desire to be modest in their relationship to a higher being. We have seen other of your cultures where individuals, in their wearing of garments, cover portions of their bodies or expose certain parts, as appropriate for each culture. Often, culturally, not due to any religious edict, there exists a desire for a relationship with an advanced spiritual being they believe in. The use of silence, I immediately was had an impression of archaic lack of communication. But then I paused and wondered if, by lack of verbal communication, they will, in an indirect way, develop other forms of communication. Perhaps in their mediations they are more connected than first impressions suggest. Perhaps they will form a kind of telepathic ability with each other. It could be pursuing a more advanced path that first might be misunderstood. It is one where a new curiosity should not be judged too hastily. We respect their belief as long as it fulfills their desire to achieve their goals. Their goals do not seem inconsistent with other religious groups, but their approach is unusual. Perhaps it is as I stated, they may be indirectly developing a form of communication that does not reveal itself so physically but maybe more telepathically. This is not different from, we believe, the archaeology of the history of our own species. We have often wondered what were the first steps toward our telepathic evolution. Perhaps these monks show us a glimpse into ourselves.
I wondered if your telepathy may have introduced itself when your species scattered to other planets and there was little to no available communication between these planets in the early days. It seems that things develop as we need them. I have to ask: What circumstances would have occurred that created the need for telepathy? In evolution, there is adaptability to the environment. It is true, as our species moved to other planets and encountered other species, it was soon discovered that telepathic ability, even though many human skeptics believe it does not exist on Earth, is quite a universal form of communication between species. It eliminates the need for a translator in an organic way. It is what often unites many species. New avenues form when this plateau has reached. There is a universal kind of communication that many abductees and contactees have surprisingly discovered in their ability to know the thoughts of these other off-world species when they are in their presence. How that is possible? There is a natural evolutionary plateau and where there is a need, biology will adapt to make that possible. So when they reach a certain level, the need to acquire telepathy somehow appears. They join the community of the cultures around the universe.
You have answered a question for me that I have not yet asked through this discussion.
Perhaps I felt the question coming. Perhaps. I will be respectful.
It has to do with spirits talking to people in physical forms and the question was: Do you need to speak to a spirit in their native language? The answer is: No. You don’t need to do that. They seem to understand any language. I would have to conclude that they are using the universal language of the mind.
The mechanism of language is replaced by thought. The voice, and the hearing of other voices, is one medium sound waves and atmosphere facilitate. Communication directly between minds bypasses this. Using sound waves is a quaint old way. The telepathic communication is mind to mind. This is difficult to explain. When one has reached that evolutionary plateau where…. In our earlier talk about the Tower of Babel the builders have been circumvented and scattered throughout the world. In telepathy, communication has been recombined into one voice, with one understanding, one telepathic language. It can create bonds between species. It creates harmony of understanding, whatever value is placed on it morally. Humans will have the opportunity to look forward to this. It will change your world. We have often talked about how a telepathic society functions, with its relationships and differences and similarities compared with non-telepathic species who have yet achieved that plateau. It is always an interesting discussion. We have spent much time talking about this. It is a fundamental difference between humans and our species but one that we understand. We see the glimmerings of its beginnings in humans. We look forward to the time when that will be part of a universal connection between humans and other life forms.
It is a very exciting prospect for us. Even beyond the spirit plane, we will enjoy seeing it occur.
It will be there. In a spiritual way, when that time comes for you and for Steve and for me, too, the time will be when we will be part of a greater energy that has universal understanding. We will be released to a (state of) omnipresence. We will enjoy the pleasure of swimming in that ocean of consciousness that will be like a moonlight swim on your world among the stars, in the knowledge of knowing everything perhaps.
I don’t need to know everything because I love the process of exploring mysteries. But, eventually, I will know more.
Even in the spiritual world there will be more questions. I should have qualified that. But know that there will be wisdom at that time that you will enjoy and know the happiness and the pleasures will be experienced. This is what we imagine in our perceptions of what that would be like.
ZETA RETICULI HISTORY
The protective material that you sometimes wear, or others wear, when exploring other planets, I know it is protective and also helps ready you for the environment. Is the material a synthetic chemical product or does it have natural fibers in it?
It is a combination. The natural physical fibers have bio-psychic technological characteristics imprinted and woven into the fabric which interfaces with our bodies. It assists what our minds are paying attention to at the moment. It will focus and enhance that energy to see further, in a sense. This is not necessarily visually because all the senses are engaged. The material also conceals many of our bodies characteristics in order to present intentionally a more generic form. Imagine wearing such a garment. In your world, I can see and feel who is present across the street in someone’s home and what they are doing at the moment, including their thoughts. I can sense the energy of the plants and living things, plants and animals. It is mainly to enhance the gathering information which is stored in the garment we wear, along with our own telepathic memories and devices that we carry with us. At the same time, it also acts as an early warning of any possible unwanted attention, concern or danger to our physical being.
This anticipation and awareness gives us the ability to operate on a planet’s surface, away from our ships. It helps us to explore other worlds without being detected or being known in the vicinity. Simply, we can see others before they can see us. The garment serves us in many roles. It contains many bio-psychic technological devices that is weaved into the fabric of the garment.
Is it partially plant based?
The garments are an artificial fabric. Long ago, our concept of garments was organically based in our ancient history. Now these are manufactured and fit very comfortably on us. They can also act as a form of invisibility. They can help conceal us, should the need arise. We can reflect and project what is behind us. The human military would enjoy such a device. It is for that reason they will not have this device. It would make us vulnerable and it is a form of cultural contamination (to share that kind of knowledge). It would not be acceptable to either humans or us in the end. This is just one of many features that we use.
Contamination, I understand the general concept of noninterference in allowing each species to evolve, as they should, pretty much on their own. It does seem that there is a small allowable margin for interaction that might create change. What are the overlying criteria would warrant minor interaction?
The concept of noninterference is one that you understand in your popular culture and science fiction. We are aware of these. It is not dissimilar. However, in the context of our experience and knowledge we have interacted with many worlds and cultures. A total separation to observe is not always necessary. For example, at times, it is like adding yeast to bread to enable it to rise. Sometimes we can add, in an invisible way, our input that will help and encourage development of biological, intellectual, political or social concepts that we feel is correct for them in our interpretation at that moment. This ultimately may have an effect in the future that would be agreeable and of mutual benefit in any future contact. There are some planets that we do not interfere with. While others, we are very open and interact visibly and both parties are well aware.
The Earth is in a current situation where it is aware of contact but, at the same time, on an official level, it is denied to the public. The public is aware, on its own, at a grass roots level, due to the personal contacts. We prefer this, rather than contacting certain officials. Some officials are aware of our existence but it is a careful delicate process and one that takes some discussion and interaction at the proper place and time. Thoughts are placed with great precision, based on what we observe in humans. When we feel it is appropriate, such disclosure will be made on a wider basis. Some of humanity, due to its non-telepathic status, is like one of your porridges, with lumps (of knowledge). The common knowledge and acceptance of off-planet life forms is not uniform. There are pockets of knowledge with acceptance and understanding while the majority of humanity is not quite ready yet for contact. This will occur. We wait patiently. These are examples of the discretion that we have to practice with great consideration for the species we choose to communicate with, as we are. We are a rich lump of porridge, the three of us, in our relationship.
(Therapist laughs.)
The other parts are mere milk and are not quite ready. They will be folded in. Steve enjoys analogies so I borrow his ability. It is useful in this conversation.
Useful and humorous to me.
Yes. I sensed the same. It is a good tool and a tool also for expressing understanding.
SPIRITUALITY
CONTACT
Without disrupting Steve from his little adventure, he was thinking about a case just before our connection that had to do with a couple in New Jersey where an entity has been making himself known around their dwelling. The entity acted like it was injured or confused. Apparently the police who went there to protect the couple in response to their call were summarily taken care of psychically so that they did not interfere.
I have little to no information of this.
I don’t know if you had an opportunity, and if not, it is fine. We had talked about the HAR-1 molecule and how that seemed to be unique to human beings. Did you learn anything further on that?
It is a unique molecule and it has helped separate and helped increased the intellectual capacity of humans in relations to primate. This could be an influence from off world. It could be an evolutionary adaptation of your own world. It is a rational ability. I do not wish to place the information of ability of primates to diminish their capacity. They are much more intelligent than their human brothers and sisters are aware. They have many of the human instincts. There are many humans who are aware and give them the respect they deserve. Others, though, place themselves in their habitats in vulnerable places. These are poachers who are a great threat to them. Jane Goodall has done a beautiful service in enlightening people. She would be a good ambassador for human-alien contact. She has demonstrated her interaction with other species. It would not be difficult for her to connect, in a beneficial way, with us.
She is on the spirit side now but I don’t see why she couldn’t connect with you now.
She is an example. The molecule is one thing that has made humans distinctive and unique. It is just another evolutionary step to move to a higher form, when it is appropriate.
Yes. I enjoyed the documentaries made about her life’s work, as I am sure others have also enjoyed. If the case of the Annunaki is true, that they came here to our planet for gold, why would they need gold? According to the Sumerian texts they took the gold back to their planet to be used in atmospheric ways. Why would they need to do that?
Gold, as you know, it has a certain purity. It has the ability to separate itself from other minerals. These properties are desirable to the Annunaki for their technology. The use for atmospheric purposes is an interesting interpretation. Perhaps humans saw technology in their craft and became the ancient human interpretation of how it would interact in an atmosphere. The Annunaki and other species often mine inhabited and uninhabited worlds, based on where the mineral deposits are and the convenience of the locations. With the Annunaki, a culture was developed around the basic need for this material. In a sense, it was much like the cultural effects of a California gold rush and the surrounding development to meet the basic need for the material. This need and its production produced a new culture, economy and society. The Annunaki is a distant ancient example of this, in an off-world sense. I use the 1849 example as an illustration of a more current reference. The Annunaki left and have disappeared as the 49ers have also left and disappeared. What remains still exists in a more obscure way that can be seen if the attention was devoted to it.
Do you know the term or understand the term “ultra terrestrials?”
I am unfamiliar with the term.
I just learned yesterday. It is used to describe beings from other dimensions that inhabit this planetary area.
My direction of thought was considering that based on the words and their separate meanings. (It would be) a mind that would ultra significantly represents an advanced ultra dimensional intelligence, terrestrial, hiding its interaction here. It is a useful expression. It is a new phrase and one we may hear more of.
Yes. I thought it might be useful. (Noise.) Sorry, it is my ally (dog). (Therapist laughs.)
Steve’s ally (cat) is at his door.
No doubt.
They are allies with each other too, but do not know it.
Have Steve or I ever encountered blended beings, in the definition we have discussed?
Steve has had one encounter. I perceive that you have also. Blended beings in the term of “hybrid” as you colloquially call these splendid beings. It is one that, in your day to day life, you may unexpectedly encounter an awareness of someone in your presence.
Steve has had a familiar story where more was coming into is mind than he was expecting and he was happily startled by this. He encountered a being when he was looking for a product in a store. He had the notion of alien abductions on his mind and this drew the attention of this person. This being took on the form of an employee. Even thought the product did not exist that he was looking for, Steve did find, ultimately, what he was looking for. I am sure in your life, Mary, you have perhaps encountered similar persons who are actually blended species from other places. You have encountered in your other places that you have lived, New Mexico, such entities or the objects associated with those entities. It is wondrous, those times, and it is often interesting how humans, in their minds, based on their paradigm of reality, how they absorb such information. Sometimes it is with wonder. Sometimes it is with self doubt about their sanity. I sense in you and in Steve, and many others, that the wonder has dominated the experience which is as it should be. It makes for enjoyable and memorable impressions and knowledge that, in life and reality, more exists beyond your immediate perception.
I have encountered children, once in a while, who seemed so advanced that it made me step back and look at them again. They seemed wise beyond the years of a child. I did not know if I was simply aware of their ancient soul or was seeing something else. Perhaps I may have been seeing something else.
In Steve memory, he has encountered one person who claims to have been a hybrid, a blended person. They were introduced to them. Steve had already noticed this sense of awareness and knowledge leading him in the contact where the entity knew more about him. He was not threatened by this. He was just interested in knowing more. When he was told that this person could be a hybrid, which they were, it suddenly placed things in a more proper light and he still has not seen this person again. It was a fleeting time since that day. The hybrid was a young lady in college. Her Earth father or stepfather was a psychologist and spiritual person. The mother is a human with awareness of this. The Earth mother has been told that her daughter has two mothers, acknowledging her and another. There are times when entities are seen in their home. They often have commented about this and they seem to be interacting with their daughter who seems quite liberated by this. It is an interesting relationship. The parents are accepting and understanding. They also know their role in a physical sense and the entities understand and appreciate their role too in the process of this child’s development.
The mother was the one taken and impregnated.
Yes. She has had some experiences. There has been, at times, disagreement between the mothers over the proper raising of their shared child. There was a crib in which this young infant girl was placed. The entities felt that this was not a safe place for this child. They visited, as parents do, to check on their child. When the Earth parents returned to the bedroom, their child was on the floor. The entities had come, disapproving of the crib, dissembled it and, so as not to seem like it was a random destruction of a material object, it was respectfully placed in an order on the floor as in a 3-dimensional exploded view with the child in the center. It was not done in a chaotic and random way. It was done in a pattern that the parents would recognize. The child, at that point, was then no longer placed in a crib.
I remember this case.
Yes. I took it from Steve’s mind but the description given to him was an accurate one.
That is what made it so interesting. It was such a unique way of leaving a message.
Often entities do this. It was like a crop circle in a bedroom.
You read my mind on that one.
Yes. I read your mind. I do not wish to share that it is easy to read minds, but at the same time, it would be disruptive to the communication process so I am perfectly comfortable with the means we use. Sometimes I pull back part of my abilities which is perfectly fine.
I am aware and I am okay either way.
THE UNIVERSE
We have talked a bit about consciousness. Are there fundamental laws that apply to the existence of consciousness?
Reality is interpreted by consciousness, consciousness should know that reality is not always what it appears to be. Consciousness is the combination of a being’s sensory abilities and its minds ability to interpret its environment. Reality can be different realties or they can be the same realities interpreted in a different way. One being may have a wider range of senses that can see or feel or experience more than other beings may in the same reality. Consciousness is the mind’s interpretation of these stimuli and its ability to function in that reality.
OTHER
Sometimes Steve, because of who he is, starts doubting the process that we are going through and tries to take too much on his shoulders in terms of the content of communications. How can we assure Steve and help him to be a little bit more sure and confident in this process?
He is experiencing something new. He is merely trying to test, not to prove, but to put these new values into the proper proportion. He is doing what some scientists would wish to do, as he imagines it. He is merely encountering something new. He is very honest and truthful with people. In this consideration, he does not wish to inadvertently appear to be deceiving. He is concerned less now, I am happy to say, with what others may think. He is merely analyzing himself. He analyzes too much at times, but it is part of the human process. In a telepathic community, if he was connected, the understanding would be richer, fuller and more immediate. There would be such clarity and there would be little to no doubt. This is also just a natural part of his human biology. In questioning these new things he is encountering, he is learning quickly. He does not doubt what we are doing. He is quite happy and excited. He just wants to know he is doing a service, to the best of his ability, and that he is not standing in the way, which he is not. He is part of the process, as much as I am, and you are too, Mary. We are all part of the element of the process we use for this communication.
We are certainly enjoying the process.
OPEN SESSION FOR COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS
Where is Steve now? What is he doing?
He is very spiritually happy.
Is he still in the body that I described to him or is he in his human form?
He is in his human body now. He was in his Avatar one. He has transitioned to a bed. He senses and enjoys the comfort of sleep. I feel it is raining on the roof of the house and he is in a setting where it is very peaceful. At the same time he is also aware of our conversation. He is attentive but keeping a respectful distance as per your instructions.
We human beings do love the sound of the rain on our roofs when we are tucked warmly in bed.
Is there anything you wish to tell us before I bring Steve back?
Our discussion of ultra terrestrials, I will explore further.
Thank you. I would enjoy learning about it.
I will do my homework for the next session on that. You and the scientist (teacher) friend enjoyed my analogy of the corn meal and this has given Steve more confidence in the process. He is not negative, but neutral. This is further confirmation of our enjoyable interaction. With that, I will leave to allow Steve to return and Steve is quaking a little. He feels, not ill at ease, but with a sense of excitement in our communication. It is perhaps time for him to come back. He becomes tired. He is not physically tired, more psychically tired. That is all and he is happy to participate. I say farewell until next Sunday or whenever we wish to meet at your request.
Namastes. Until we meet again.
Until we meet again, Mary. I wish you well and warm thoughts for this week and the weeks that follow.
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Post by paulette on Jan 8, 2012 11:47:41 GMT -6
Wow! They left you in a tree somewhere? So do you not perceive (prior to reading the notes) what you passed on to Mary?
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Post by Steve on Jan 9, 2012 23:18:44 GMT -6
Wow! They left you in a tree somewhere? So do you not perceive (prior to reading the notes) what you passed on to Mary? I guess it was a case of Han and Mary, and me cheetah! ;D Yes, I perceive best I can tell the conversation between Mary and Han. Han speaks to Mary through me. So I am aware of what is being discussed. I do sense what Han is meaning, and I seem at times waiting patiently while Han searches for the word. I am talking as Han, but in my mind I seem to be two persons, Han at that moment juggling deciding which word is best, and me patiently waiting. Han eventually picks the word I know matches the 'thought' meaning I seem to already know. I ask Mary, worried, I am not becoming schizophrenic or something am I? She laughs, no, Steve your not. It feels so familiar, there is this "presence" or "thought" that one can easily think one is "making this up". It is that impression that keeps me asking if I am making it up. Mary seems convinced herself I am not. She says Han comes across as a completely different personality. In Sundays new session, which will be #25, a scientist aware of Mary work with me passed three new theoretical physics questions on to her which Mary asked about. One was about 'duality' (a wave, particle, or both?) and two others which I cannot remember the questions or answers now, but did right after the session when we discuss about it afterward. It is all recorded and being transcribed now. Mary also asked about angels. Han had his usual interesting answer. Han expressed embarrassment that some humans would confuse angels with aliens. He was embarrassed in humility out of their respect for angels, They did not call them by the same name, but they were the same, and in their belief system, they acknowledge angels too. I thought that was interesting. Angels are separate and special, and part of a bigger everything. I read about what it is like to be inducted on other web pages to compare notes . It is remarkable what is described is what I experience. I sense of lightness, and at times feel like a heavy weight, especially my arms and hands Also hearing Mary's voice as she inducts me, her voice fading in and out. Sometimes seemingly hard to hear. But during the session itself, I hear clearly. www.odysseyofthesoul.org/freomm/howtobehypno.htmI did some research, apparently animals CAN be hypnotized. cats, dogs, horses, cows, even chickens. If aliens use hypnotic trances to abduct, this would make great sense regarding cattle mutilation reports. This all reads back so crazy, and yet.... Steve
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Post by paulette on Jan 10, 2012 10:25:21 GMT -6
"Han. Are you familiar with something called the HAR-1 molecule? No. It was recently discovered and it was found to be unique to human beings. It is believed to be that element that turned us from one species into the so called human species. I will leave that subject for a later time." Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=encounters&action=display&thread=1294&page=13#ixzz1j4YqTEAYI found this when I read back in the thread before last. This is it IMO. The "smoking gun" that proves that the theories of Sitchin and Gardener are in essence correct. We were hunter gather homonids that were genetically enhanced to be better workers. As my husband says, "Smart enough to obey orders". Our tails and fur had to go - a workplace liability. Interesting Steve that you sense Han and the dialogue. When I was induced and taken back in time - I didn't remember some of what I said (and later heard on the tape.) I remember being indifferent to what I said - no judgements of content or its effects on the questioner.
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Post by Steve on Jan 16, 2012 7:57:23 GMT -6
HAN Through Steve __________ under Hypnosis Therapist: Mary _________
Session XXV (25) January 8, 2012
Steve is inducted, using a vision of rising up in a hot air balloon. Steve has a little difficulty.
Han. Are you able to hear me?
Yes. I am assisting Steve to “go under.” He is getting this feeling of warmth. I am placing him in a warm bath in his mind. Okay. I think he is settled.
Why don’t you ask him to take off his headset?
Steve: I am trying to get comfortable.
Han: Steve is lying back and putting the receiver to his ear. He has taken the headphone off. He is resting his head on the phone. His hands are free. His head is facing toward the backrest of the sofa. He is semi-floating. He is focused on his breathing.
He is doing it. Here I am.
Yes. Thank you.
EARTH HISTORY
What can you tell us about the discoveries in sound as it affects our bodies and brains at the molecular level?
There are certain resonances that affect the physiology. They can be both harmful and beneficial. Sound has properties can be directed and focused as well with great precision, both within a body or even to a person in a crowd. Often they hear voices and they feel their mental health is in doubt. We often use this. It has been used by other species to leave a hint of other future contact, like slipping a note into someone’s pocket as they walk by. We often can be a pickpocket that leaves something instead of taking something. It is done discretely appropriately, whatever the intent. I digress.
Sound is part of a greater energy resonance. Sound has energy and can be used for many things.
Are there certain megahertz that are healthier for the human body?
Yes. They can be less harmful but if the frequency harmonics is controlled, in such a manner, it can create a pleasant harmonic that is sympathetic to the vibration of the individual experiencing it.
The individual molecules themselves, of course have their own intelligence. When they hear at one that resonates with them what is their reaction to that?
Molecules? The actual physical process?
Yes.
There is a vibration. For every action there is a reaction.
Is this a sympathetic vibration, getting in synch?
It is in synch. If out of synch it can do damage. If the harmonics can be brought into synch they can have a beneficial and soothing affect. If amplified, the already preexisting soothing harmonic actually increases that process in a way that it is enhancing the existing biological process. The two interact. I think you understand the relationship. I did not feel the need to state it further.
I do understand. When I needed healing I joined a choir to sing because I knew that singing would change the vibration in my body and it did.
It is a 2-step process. It is the harmonics of all the others in the group. But, at the same time, one does not require a group to change their harmonics because singing alone one can also finds the same harmonics. A shift changes the harmonics and focus of one that makes music special to a human condition. Sharing those same harmonics only increases the well being of the group. They each share. An analogy would be: One can bath alone or one can swim in a swimming pool with others. Perhaps that is the best example. Each enjoys the experience and the sharing of this is also enjoyed as a group. It is a lovely concept and I can feel the pleasant harmonics just from our thoughts exchanging. It gives me hope for my music which is not adequate for the purpose. Thank you for the gift of what it can be. It is interesting.
Now, just for the fun of it, I would like to share the words of a nursery song that has an interesting, not-so-obvious depth.
Row, row, row your boat Gently down the stream Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily Life is but a dream.
I give that to you, because “life being a dream” is one of the possibilities of our reality. It is humorous to me to hear it sung by children.
It has been heard by me. Steve has sung this song also as a child, with others. I now see new meaning in these words. They are not childish words, but adult words as well. They apply to an experienced being as well as a new being. To me, it is the pleasure of the journey through a reality that they experience and exist in, as they interpret it. It is the happiness of the trip and the effort it takes to travel wherever they wish to go. It is a good lesson for both young and old beings.
I heard on the radio the other day that the Moon could, in fact, be an artificial construct and that they (scientists) are finding evidence that it may an internal engine.
Recently, two Earth probes, to conduct surveys of the Moon’s gravity fields, have stabilized in orbit around this celestial body. They will learn that, very early in the Moon’s creation, it was actually 2 Moons that merged together. The masses are a little off-set. This is not uncommon with similar Moons in the Universe. When this occasionally occurs, this is an explanation of why one side of your Moon always faces toward your planet. This is a clear indication of this but one that you are only beginning to discover why this is so. This is not unusual in those circumstances. Once you understand this, in your further explanations of the Universe, when you encounter similar Moons you will understand that is why the orbital dynamics behave in such a way. The Earth and the Moon have a relationship. The Moon’s tidal forces, the size relationship to your planet is large. It is a significant Moon in size and mass compared to others of similar proportions with their home planets. The Moon and the Earth were created about the same time from the same original materials. The engine you refer to, many of the gravity and orbital systems can act as an engine of some sort. Perhaps that can be considered. But, I feel your question is asking about a singular engine and one that is unique to the Moon itself. This is true.
Has it been artificially made?
I will not give a qualitative answer only because I do not know an answer. I respectfully wish to discuss this with others and explore this possibility further before giving a qualitative answer. Your question deserves such an answer.
As you know, China is suffering. A large part of its country is turning into a desert. The reasons for it are somewhat complex as each action causes a reaction. Here in the US we had that kind of a problem with the dust bowl and we changed our plowing techniques. But China has compounded the problem by continuing to water the land with salty water and planting maybe where they should not be putting crops. I know you have come across lands and maybe even planets where the desertification process marches forward. What are some of the resources that you have used to stop that process?
It is the surface population that is one cause. It puts excessive demands on the land. The equation for us for the amount of land that can support life is different from a human equation. They are more optimistic than we are. We feel, perhaps, we are more realistic. However, Earth is unique. It is a rich and fertile place. It is amazing how resilient your planet has been. We have talked about the notion of nature in the past. Nature, in this case, has been very generous in tolerating the overpopulation. China is a very populated area of your world but, overall, the population of your planet is increasing at an alarming rate. A point will come where the death rate will match the birth rate in the future. This is not meant to be alarming but you will find that a land area of a given size can only support so much. China and many others will try to, for lack of education or wishful thinking, in the thought processes, farm excessively, diminishing the land for agricultural use. China is an advanced nation but its population’s education is not uniform. There are many people who wish, wisely, to be good stewards of the land while many others are not as educated and used old traditions which no longer suitable for such a population. It can be impractical and even harmful and needs to be discontinued. Many traditions do not go away easily, particular in China. This is what we have observed.
The Earth’s population is not uniform. There are dense areas and areas of great isolation. Uniformity, due to the planet’s climate, can be more facilitative to create equal dispersion of population and resources but, each planet is different with its unique problems. Each “yard” in space has a different garden, each with its own characteristics. The main corrective measure would be to reduce the population of humans by reducing their birth rates. Another component would be to more effectively use science to gain more from the land by using purer ingredients. Additionally, grains and seeds that have enhanced genetic abilities to make them hardier to exist in less hospitable conditions would benefit all. There are a number of things, but the primary pressure is simply too many humans.
There are other planets that eventually become deserts without having human populations.
In terms of growing crops, we have hydroponics now which can be used but would be insufficient for growing China’s crops. At least it is not something that is done to the soil. Secondly, we have a plant that draws all of its nutrients from the air. I am wondering if we couldn’t develop crops that could be grown without soil, drawing their nutrients from the air – a new type of agriculture.
This has been done on other planets and has worked successfully. It is an alternative. It would compete with others that require an atmosphere but, if circumstances were correct, it could be mutually beneficial and there would be no competition for space or atmospheric gases. It would create a balance. This would show much promise.
That is not withstanding that there are too many people.
ZETA RETICULI HISTORY
I have a question regarding the early planetary explorations of your species. As you first began to explore other planetary worlds (I assume you did that telepathically at first) and started encountering other civilizations, what were the effects of these encounters on your culture?
Early contacts were without the benefit of telepathy. In the later contacts, we had a telepathic preview of what we would encounter, both in the character and nature of those we would contact. We can understand both situations. Our early primitive explorations and flights to other worlds there is a cultural shock which can occur. It does not cause a collapse as some often fear on Earth. Your Margaret Mead warned of advanced cultures superceding more primitive cultures. We are aware of this and often keep a policy of non-interference.
Those early species that you encountered in your initial contacts, were they more advanced technologically that your species?
Our first contacts were with primitive, simple life forms. It gave us confirmation that life existed elsewhere. It is almost humorous to concede we once felt that way. I am speaking about our earlier times, prior to our telepathic times, when we were not dissimilar to you. We had primitive capabilities to travel between star systems. In time, and perhaps one benefit from primitive contact was the development of telepathic abilities as well. Our past cultures had to go through many reappraisals of ourselves. Concepts often jealousy guarded and slowly in time, would let go, but not without having to painfully let go of traditions. We understand this in other contacts such as our relationships with humans on Earth. This is why we often hold back direct open contact. It would be easier to contact individuals at the present time instead of nations. Nations react differently than individuals react. We understood this from our own historical experience. It often depends upon the preexisting expectations of what each species expects to find in the Universe. Some are more open. Some are more prideful and isolated. Often it is a great change that is required before a species may become part of the Universal community. Earth has such elements but this is not unusual. It is expected in some cases from past experience. The main issue is how open they are to change? If they cannot change, their societies could collapse. Fundamentally, all societies, in the shadow of such knowledge, must still perpetuate itself in some form. This usually means waking up to a new reality. Others take it and handle it in a more agreeable fashion.
Yes. I am trying to imagine one planetary culture encountering for the first time, another planetary culture that was equal to them or greater than them in terms of knowledge and how shocking that would be to them and how they would have to reevaluate their beliefs.
The more advanced culture, depending on their own ethics and morals, find another culture which is comparatively primitive annoying. It may also be one where they can be agreeable and open to off world teachers and facilitators. It depends on the moral composition of the advanced species. If they are more benign, they are more accommodating in incorporating a new member into the Universal community of life. If the advanced culture is more selfish it can be harmful and ultimately destroy, perhaps even without that intention. It is a situation (encounters) where one must be quite flexible in attitudes and respect. That is often the case when encountering new things and new discoveries. Absorbing the new knowledge by both parties can be accomplished if it is done with respect and care. It can be done - it is often not easy. I think you understand this. Often, this is my reason for being, my role in communicating with you. It is just one more pinpoint of light in easing the process of creating understanding. There is no need to be afraid. In bargaining between cultures, one does not necessarily need to give up anything. If the changes are to occur, it is important that, in any such encounter and relationship, it is understood by each party that the necessary changes are done by each party on their own, not with inappropriate influence of another. With each encounter, if the species are intelligent, they will adjust themselves seeing in new knowledge better ways. As long as another species is not imposing its culture too flagrantly on the other, each will adjust in time. This is part of the secret of correcting and joining cultures. Often many hybrids will blend into another culture, not only genetically, but also socially. It is usually better this way. It is not one that is done with the intent to harm. It is just a general understanding that change takes time. Change is occurring and, often, many cultures are unaware of the process in their midst. I hope my answer is not disjointed. Maybe it will be less so if it is condensed. I think you understand.
SPIRITUALITY
You are familiar with the human concept of angels. There are famous ones. One is named Michael. Who are these angelic beings and are they actually “angelic” beings?
There is Michael and other beings that are addressed as angels. They are a combination of things. They are in the biblical sense in one context and advanced spiritual beings, separate from us, at the same time. It is like we have two views of this: the legend and the mythology and their presence, which is very real in the Universe. They are a presence and a very benign and loving presence and one that is very powerful. We expect this. In our Earth visits, we have often been labeled as angels or demons by Earth religious leaders. This is inappropriate. This is often the case that many religious leaders utter inappropriate remarks. However, these remarks are both inaccurate and embarrassing, in light of these spiritual supreme beings which exist separately. They are on a different plane but still quite interactive with the physical world. They are not to be confused with us. They exist on a plane where they are not omnipresent. They carry out, with a servant’s attitude in relation to a master, which is less clear but very present at the same time. They perform the wishes as an agent of a higher power. They are very reassuring for us as well as they can be reassuring for human kind. They encompass all of us. This is my impression. There are several of these, given assigned names to distinguish between them. They have certain specific tasks yet they are all together in a unified purpose. Each just carries out different roles. There are Gabriel and Michael. There is a third, the name is less clear. A sense of peace and reassurance comes into my mind that I am sharing back with you. These entities you call angels we refer to as spiritual agents. It is the same meaning and these beings also encompass our civilization and touch our worlds as well as yours. I am sure they are without boundaries and go wherever they wish to go to accomplish whatever task they are assigned to perform. They are comforting beings.
Do think there may be a countless number of angels but perhaps some may be less powerful?
In a different dimension, there are as many as there are stars. The number is unknown but there are many. They are just on another plane and spiritual existence but one that can often interact with the physical plane. They are not remote or detached from a physical existence but they dwell in another place, yet just as close and just as far away.
I have heard stories of them interjecting themselves in human events to save humans from time to time.
CONTACT
You probably heard Steve talking about a couple of recent cases. One in particular, __________.
_______ has a great desire to understand the encounter that occurred 11 years ago. He struggles to recall these memories, some of which are not accessible because he was unconscious some of the time. He was permitted to know no more than was necessary. His children are safe. He is brave and a loving father.
Is it unlikely that he or his children may be taken or visited again?
The orbs, as he refers to them, have visited again at various times to monitor their activity and to download. In the primary encounter that _______wishes to know more about, he remarked that he could see his entire life pass in a linear fashion from the present to his childhood in a brief space of time. Fortunately, they do not erase memories, although that is possible. We can block surface memories with some precision but the knowledge is never erased. He dreams of a telescope that he wishes to purchase or build because of his fondness for the sky. I share this and understand.
That would be good for him to build one.
He is knowledgeable about the sky. This is how he recognizes and distinguishes when visitors are near. These visitors frequently visit doing their rounds, monitoring their past effects of prior visits.
I will assist him with his anxiety and perhaps help him shift his perspective somewhat to look more toward the future. That was very helpful.
Humans do have a role in helping other humans who have been taken. You help the healing of potential damage by some entities who conduct themselves in a selfish manner. Often our species have taken people too, but the intent was often different. Many times these can be beneficial visits too. Sometimes the human psyche will perceive the unknown as danger and the natural instinct to guard oneself is activated. Many visitors, in parallel time lines, intercede to prevent alternative pathways from occurring which could be more harmful. Their stake in these humans is a mystery to some of us. Some purposes are quite clear. There are many contacts and they are made for many reasons.
I am only guess, but with ________, with his interest in the skies and perhaps the fact that he had so many children, this may have tweaked someone’s interest?
The knowledge that these entities can posses about an individual is astonishing. Humans would find this intrusive. It is often such that the entities are not just curious but wish to be associated with such humans because they show such promise of many things related with their own agendas. It is who they wish to be associated with.
I can understand that.
These associations do not appear to be great favors to the experiencers, but they are part of a larger purpose that experiencers cannot often see. Experiencers are only allowed to know what is necessary.
When humans express a strong interest in astronomy they cannot also resist being curious about what life might exist out there. ________ may have called in these entities by virtue of his curiosity.
THE UNIVERSE
I have three questions that were presented to me by a teacher. His name is _________. His first question is:
1. Can a particle (not an anti-particle) have a negative or imaginary frequency? If so, what would be the implications?
There are positive and negative particles. This is touching on the power we often use in any areas in our existence, science and travel. These are basic elements of the Universe. The part that goes forward in time is the positive energy part, and the part that goes back in time is the negative energy part.
I don’t know what he meant by an imaginary frequency.
Thank you for emphasizing that. This is a consequence of the fact that there is no positive frequency function which is zero outside a light cone. A light cone is the path a flash of light takes emanating from an event traveling through space / time. If you have a particle in relativity, its dynamics require that it goes faster than light, and to restore causality, it must go back in time.
There is a word for that state.
Stasis comes to mind. I offer it to you. I do not know if it is the correct word. It is one he suggested. It is not inconsistent. This word just came out of the air. We know that is not the case, but it is what came to mind. 2. Is it counter productive for students to explore “wave particle duality?”
Particle duality?
“Wave particle duality.” I think he is simply asking: Does it exist and is it useful to study?
Is he asking if the duality is a particle or a wave?
I don’t think so. He puts the phrase in quotation marks.
He is asking if that is a realistic path to study?
Yes.
Yes. Wave and particle co-exist in Quantum mechanics. Any student would have an incomplete concept of the workings of the Universe without each. The wave nature of photons is clear. The particle nature of photons seems less clear. A photon becomes a particle when emanating from a source which then travels through space to impact a point in space. Between photon creation and photon termination you have wave behavior too. Wave and particle duality. There are great promising new discoveries before him and his students. I am restrained, not wishing to spoil a surprise. I wish to answer but also wish to encourage.
I call it “tantalizing.”
That is an interesting word. That is a good description. I did not know that. It is an emotional word, seductive, yet it is only one interpretation. My admiration for him and his inquisitiveness in wishing to participate in our discussion today.
Thank you. I will certainly pass that on to him.
Sometimes I pause because I seek only the correct word. We have talked about this. You understand.
I do understand.
3. In his last question he is talking about classifying behaviors according to classical physics. Other than for history, is there any point in trying to classify subsets of experimentally verifiable behaviors according to classical physics?
Classical physics has a useful purpose in the majority of the hypothetical intellectual process of arriving at a conclusion. We talked about Thales* (of Miletus) earlier. He is the Father of that rational process. This does apply in the majority of cases as Earth knowledge begins to explore many characteristics of quantum physics. This process, your friend posits, may no longer have the same meaning. The same tools will apply, but there may be unexpected surprises because, with many new concepts, old rules may not apply. It may not become an obsolete process for all things. In much of the physical universe, this is still a relevant tool for rational thought and exploration. It would need to be supplemented with new tools that are more adaptable to the new discoveries. To be able to apply these discoveries to further discoveries, new tools will need to be made to discuss these phenomena. Western science, or Earth science, as a whole, has served mankind well. In the future it will need to be broadened to able to function in new future realities. This is what I perceive for you. We have had to adapt to new concepts in our sciences. In many ways, Earth science is no different from our science. We observe the same reality and interpret it the same way. The same (laws of) physics that work on Earth also work on our worlds. There is no difference, but there are new quantum physics that challenge the old tools. They are often not appropriate and new tools need to be created that are more flexible with the strangeness of reality and ironies, contrasting the physical science with quantum physics. Around the Universe, it is what permits much of what we are to be. Without quantum physics we would be prisoners on our own planets, limited in our scope. It gives us the fundamental access to other worlds and other cultures. It is a wonderful thing. Quantum physics distorts the old physical realities and “magically” finds doors and avenues for exploration never conceived of before. It will delight and astonish.
Thank you. I am sure he will very much appreciate it.
I hope I have answered his questions. If not, I know there will be many opportunities and I am open to help explain further, if I can. If he is, as I imagine scientists are, there are always more questions. I anticipate that. I am a scientist myself.
*Greek Philosopher, Sixth Century BCE
OTHER
OPEN SESSION FOR COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS
Your input on cases has been very, very helpful. Yes. Steve is doing more than he realizes and should not think otherwise. If the world could not understand, he knows that he is understood and that he is in good company. With that I will step back now. Till we meet again.
Till we meet again.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2012 10:42:46 GMT -6
Han mentioned someone on the forum! ;D
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Post by skywalker on Jan 16, 2012 10:52:56 GMT -6
He did? Where?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2012 10:56:14 GMT -6
Under "Contact".
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Post by paulette on Jan 16, 2012 14:00:01 GMT -6
I assumed that this reference was to someone in the family that Steve was working with in investigating a contact or experience. I'd love for Steve to ask Han how many people on the forum are in the telepathic memory banks. I think all of us want confirmation. Not that Steve and Mary and the possible Han are the be all and end all of that enquiry - but why not ask? What say you Steve - not necessarily an individual assessment but are the people here, in fact/in Han's fact experiencers? ?
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Post by Steve on Jan 16, 2012 16:27:38 GMT -6
Before each session, Mary and I catch up during the week about what we are curious about or been working on. Cliff and I were seeing if Mary would regress him. I said it is up to her of course, and we discussed if it would be beneficial, and what specifics would be best disclosed. Mary then usually asks freely, why don't we ask Han and see what comes up? I am convinced whatever Han knows is very limited and confided to my own memories he taps into perhaps. And again, my impressions are limited to how we communicate here by written type off a screen only. I hope that relaxes. The session seems to only confirm what Cliff already knows and is certain of anyway. I am reluctantly more of the opinion now that many many more are experiencers in our society I fear than we may realize. The rare aspect to all this maybe only whether someone has been able to recall all, or a small fragment of their experiences or not. I would never consider Han any 'be all and end all'. I am not thinking this ever since the beginning of this experiment. Urge all of us the same attitude here too. My assumption is if someone suspects they are an experiencer, and are sincere, and I know the folks here are just from the long relationships formed here - in all likeness they probably are as they suspect. Who can logically really say they are not, as much as they may suspect they are? It won't be ever decided on a forum, but from the conclusive certainty only within the mind of each individual here in excepting it is real or not. The purpose of these session posts is to basically help. I will see if that question should be asked or not. Also, if someone wishes, I am happy to edit certain portions out from the previous session too. Steve
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2012 21:56:37 GMT -6
Steve, I wish you would not ask Han about me.
I don't want him poking around in my head or possibly visiting me... even though he claims to be a "good guy" I'd rather not chance it... ya know?
I mean... I already contacted Linewave. I'd rather not attract another one like Linewave... Han seems to be very different though... but still.
I don't want to deal with apocalyptic nightmares again...
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Post by Steve on Jan 17, 2012 3:39:20 GMT -6
Don't worry Lorelei, and everyone else here too. This conversation on this last page is going a direction that was not intended. I seem to be some sort of an interpreter in all this. I haven't asked any questions myself of Han in sometime. When we have about 500 pages in notes, the professional editor will begin their work. This will be condensed down naturally. I am working on some illustrations, and Mary came up with a marvelous idea for a book cover. I really like what she came up with. But that process is just beginning. This whole experiment is an attempt to approach the UFO entity problem another way. Field work naturally will continue, and this is certainly not the first time for this approach we are now pursuing - it has been conducted before. The other ways for the last 60 plus years more of less have not produced. The CIA and the DIA have conducted remote viewing experiments, so why not us? I have a certain co-operating skepticism about all of it, and admit I am really enjoying it. I have complete confidence and trust in my colleague Mary, a former Los Alamos Scientist, para legal, and psychiatric nurse, certified hypnotherapits, who also just happens to be a very dear good friend too. Other things need to be tried at least. Like Thomas Edison trying countless materials before he found just the right filament for his incandescent light bulb. Mary said simply one day after my hundreds of field investigations, why then don't we just simply ask them instead? No dogmatic old ufo fogies protecting their questionable castles, no dubious UFO organizational bureaucracies & protocols simply to control those doing the real work, a clean sheet of paper. Whatever we have found, it is very detailed and forthcoming, and even is logical in the whats, hows, and whys. UFO organizations idly boast all they need is just one case that proves everything. How often they forget that every abductee knows it takes only one case to prove the phenomenon is real too. Fortunately or unfortunately that one case is usually their own! Our experiment may not be able to provide verifiable proof, but that also seems to go for the other methods conducted long in the past. I believe we do have physical proof, but whats the point if the world is not willing to pay attention anyway? The ufo mystery what ever it is or maybe, is a very human one. Reassuring hug for Lorelei Steve
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2012 9:24:01 GMT -6
~hugz Steve~
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Post by skywalker on Jan 17, 2012 9:24:22 GMT -6
UFO organizations idly boast all they need is just one case that proves everything. How often they forget that every abductee knows it takes only one case to prove the phenomenon is real too. Fortunately or unfortunately that one case is usually their own! That definitely is a true statement. If any debunker had to go through what some abductees experience they would be wearing a tin-foil hat for sure. It's hard to dismiss this stuff when it is happening to you personally.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2012 9:25:49 GMT -6
~hugz sky too~
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2012 2:10:23 GMT -6
Thank you Steve, Mary, and Han . I think Han is right when he speaks of my curiousity being the cause of the experience and sightings that has happened in the past.
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Post by Steve on Jan 18, 2012 6:25:30 GMT -6
Reading Whitley Strieber's 'Communion Enigma'. Comparing some of his correspondence with Han's. He makes some astonishing remarks about many things in his new book. Dr. Paul Hill's classic book. Everywhere I go I tell everyone if they want the definitive UFO book about the craft themselves, then get Paul Hill's 'Unconventional Flying Objects: A scientific analysis'. It seems in Budd Hopkin's 'Sight Unseen', and now Communion Enigma, Paul Hill is prominent in both books by these authors. I agree so much. Suppressed by NASA, it was only published after his death by his daughter. Thank goodness, seems these authors echo my sentiments too.
There are more things, questions about why UFO's or entities seem to contact some, but do not make a direct contact to the world, in Striebers book, I think he has made a good theory as to why. When there is more time, I would like to talk about that more.
Steve
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