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Jul 7, 2013 22:13:52 GMT -6
Post by skywalker on Jul 7, 2013 22:13:52 GMT -6
This video was supposedly taken on the 4th. I've already formed a few opinions about it but wanted to see what you guys think.
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Jul 7, 2013 22:34:53 GMT -6
Post by lois on Jul 7, 2013 22:34:53 GMT -6
What did the comment under the video mean by someone who states . He is panning?
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Post by skywalker on Jul 7, 2013 22:47:38 GMT -6
The comment said the camera was panning. That means it is moving from left to right or right to left following something. In this case it is supposed to be following the bigfoot but if you watch very carefully you can see that the camera starts to move before the bigfoot does...as if the guy filming knew what the bigfoot was going to do before it did it. That's one thing that suggests the video is a hoax.
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Jul 16, 2013 13:09:16 GMT -6
Post by auntym on Jul 16, 2013 13:09:16 GMT -6
www.cryptomundo.com/evidence/scent-of-a-sasquatch/Scent of a SasquatchPosted by: Dorraine Fisher July 16th, 2013 What’s That Smell All About?With the now thousands of bigfoot sighting reports around North America, we can start to see patterns, and also differences in the types of reports in what people see, hear… and also smell. So what’s that awful smell all about? And why doesn’t everyone who’s had a sighting report an odor when they have their encounter? Some report a smell, and some don’t. Great apes are known to emit an odor when they’re excited or feel threatened. Do sasquatches fall into that category? Is that all there is to it? There are many and various thoughts on the matter, and each makes sense in its own right. But what’s the real answer? I asked a few experts in the community to try and shed some light on the subject. “The smell resembles a wet animal with a skunky type of odor, but most folks describe it much worse,” says Crypto Crew researcher, Bobby Long. “My garbage cans outside are much worse.” Bobby lives and tracks sasquatches in Oregon, a drier, more mountainous state, which brings me to the next theory. Leon Drew, a bigfoot researcher from Colorado believes it may be a regional thing. “I think the odor has to do with humidity and temperature. My encounter had no odor at 30 feet of distance. I theorize that the Sasquatch odor is tied to sweat and perceived danger. I feel in the dry mountain areas the odor is less than, say, Washington State and the Swamp Ape in the Southeast,” he told me. “Have you ever smelled one during your research?”“I think I smelled one earlier this year when we were scouting for camping area. It was a skunk-musk-like smell and it moved as we moved.” And these theories explain it to some degree, but other interviewees suggested that maybe a sasquatch can create this smell at will. There are many animals that have the ability to do this and why should a sasquatch not also have this skill? Certain snakes like copperheads and pythons do it. Foxes, hyenas, and wolverines also. Some use it as a defense mechanism, like stinkbugs and skunks, while others seem to just emit an odor when they’re agitated or stressed. But there was still a curious element left here to ponder. How do we explain the skunk-like element to the smell? Is that significant? Or just some kind of coincidence? CONTINUE READING: www.cryptomundo.com/evidence/scent-of-a-sasquatch/
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Jul 20, 2013 10:49:39 GMT -6
Post by skywalker on Jul 20, 2013 10:49:39 GMT -6
Supposedly a dead bigfoot body was recently found in Canada after a torrential rain caused a huge flood that washed it down from the mountains and left it lying in a river bed. Cryptozoologists are currently studying the remains to see exactly what it is. www.adguk-blog.com/2013/07/bow-valley-flooding-exposes-rotting.htmlThere was a photo of the so-called "dead bigfoot" but it looked like a pile of dirty rags with sand on it to me. Not saying that's what it was but you couldn't tell anything by looking at that crappy photo. If somebody were to find a dead bigfoot body why would they take a crappy photo and put it on the internet? They can't take a better photo than that?
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Jul 20, 2013 12:12:55 GMT -6
Post by paulette on Jul 20, 2013 12:12:55 GMT -6
Re: the video. Obviously it was a staged event...the cameraman was aiming exactly at the place they emerged from and as remarked on, followed the moving object smoothly as if it had been rehersed. Which it probably was.
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Jul 29, 2013 13:59:22 GMT -6
Post by skywalker on Jul 29, 2013 13:59:22 GMT -6
Here's another video that supposedly was taken in Canada. The figure in it is small but interesting. There's no telling if it is a real sasquatch though, especially at hat distance.
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Jul 31, 2013 18:11:03 GMT -6
Post by skywalker on Jul 31, 2013 18:11:03 GMT -6
Paulette wanted me to post this here.
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Jul 31, 2013 21:10:09 GMT -6
Post by paulette on Jul 31, 2013 21:10:09 GMT -6
My acquaintance, Dr. Bindernaggle was interviewed about the above video (from around Mission) and also one shot supposedly by some Chinese tourists - which mostly captures the backs of their heads rather than what they are looking at. He said about the one above - "no scale but its interesting." He then surmised that one would have to go to the exact spot, put a person of a given height next to whatever trees or rocks were there and see if the Susquatch was taller than a human. (Because you can put a monket suit on a man, but it won't make him 7 feet tall."
However there's always a fly in the ointment of things on the edge of things. In Mission BC (where this sudden activity has showed up) a man is producing and promoing an app for one's phone etc so that you can keep track of recent sightings and (presumably) jump in your car and go there. It might be a coincidence. Dr. Bindernaggle got to show his footprint casts that he has made throughout the province and the newscaster treated him respectfully and seemed interested. They referred to him as the Island resident expert (which he is). I was happy for him! Its been a long lonely road he's been on, it certainly cost him a career that would have resulted in more financial security and fame (he was a world renowned entemologist/bug scientist).
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Aug 25, 2013 13:32:21 GMT -6
Post by auntym on Aug 25, 2013 13:32:21 GMT -6
thebiggeststudy.blogspot.com/2013/08/ha-a-ho-o-ho-o-sasquatch-for-youll.htmlThe Big StudyTuesday, August 20, 2013 HA-A-A!!! HO-O!! HO-O!! { Sasquatch for: You'll Never Track Me to my Home Sweet Home!!}. Posted by The Professor You are probably doubting that I speak fluent Sasquatch. You are, once again, demonstrating your intuitive wisdom, as I haven't a clue. BUT, the critter pictured above [the dreaded powerful Dzoonokwa] IS claimed by the Kwakiutl people to utter exactly that "phase" as a challenge to intruders, and as a statement of power. {Dzoonokwa is, by the way, a very big red-headed female, showing that there is no gender bias in the Kwakiutl Spirit World.} Dzoonokwa has reminded me of two things:1]. I haven't spent much time on this blog talking about ABSMs whether Yeti or Sasquatch. I think that some of the reason for that is that I have a very difficult time focussing on a satisfactory hypothesis for them. Modern America, as a nation filled with hunters, mountain hikers, nature campers, races right into the idea that these things are small populations of perhaps dying ape species --- the proper subjects for biology textbooks. Yet...... 2]. Most of the time, in detailed reports, they certainly don't act that way. As I peruse [occasionally ... I am NO expert] the literature on these entities, I read a "hunter-oriented" shelf of claims and commentary, which assiduously dodges anything which makes the Meat-and-Juices theory unpalatable. Well, maybe our Bigfoot-hunting crowd is correct, but we should at least note that the Native Americans did not think of these entities this way. I'm not going to do a review of the Bigfoot literature --- I'm not qualified and have not earned an opinion. Instead, let's just dive into this business somewhere and see if there's anything to be seen on a random probe "into the wilderness". This is a map of a Bigfoot cluster area. Linn County, Oregon --- home of Sweet Home, Oregon around which many witnesses would want to claim that Sasquatch hangs out. { I made the map from the data quickly scoopable from the internet --- don't take the exact locations of the dots too seriously; I've just dotted them in next to the locations listed. --- nevertheless, I rather like the looks of the thing, and it will be very unkind of you to criticize my lack of artistry... so depressing.} The cases arrayed are from the 1960s all the way to the present day, with an old outlier from 1885. The cases are a typical bigfoot type mix of sightings of animal-forms, tracks only, occasionally other "markings". Very little detail in these reports typically; several reports by hunters, mainly hunting elk; most sightings by men, but women and children also report; two cases describing "glowing eyes". A case: a grade school teacher was driving home to Sweet Home, OR in the late 1960s. It was at night, as she was returning from an evening class at Oregon State University. The road was empty, lined by trees and the Santiam River's south branch. She saw what she thought was a bear, but as her car got nearer, the thing proved to be a large black-haired anthropoid about seven-foot tall. It grasped the railing with one of its hands and stepped over it to the woods on the river side. As her car passed, she slowed to get a better look, and it turned to stare back at her. Now thoroughly frightened, she sped off and arrived at her home in an upset state well remembered by her family. CONTINUE READING: thebiggeststudy.blogspot.com/2013/08/ha-a-ho-o-ho-o-sasquatch-for-youll.html
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Aug 26, 2013 10:14:02 GMT -6
Post by paulette on Aug 26, 2013 10:14:02 GMT -6
I have a new personal (maybe) Bigfoot report: We were up in the hills on logging and ranch roads above Lilloet BC - the road was actually decommissioned (not maintained and not used). We had stopped to consult the map and where standing in a mud road that had dried hard. There was one footprint in the mud - about 2 inches bigger than my size 10 woman's shoe and with no toe nails showing. We took a picture and a GPS reading (its still in the camera). Will tell John Bindernaggle about it as well. PS - had seen no bear poop on the road (a sign of bears obviously).
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Aug 26, 2013 21:30:35 GMT -6
Post by skywalker on Aug 26, 2013 21:30:35 GMT -6
Any chance you can post the photo? I would like to see it.
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Aug 27, 2013 11:19:13 GMT -6
Post by paulette on Aug 27, 2013 11:19:13 GMT -6
As soon as I get my husband to download it - and then I had to figure out how to upload it. -- Which I will do.
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Aug 29, 2013 7:34:09 GMT -6
Post by bewildered on Aug 29, 2013 7:34:09 GMT -6
Good call on that video, sky. I agree with your judgment that it was staged, but two other things stand out to me: the gait of "bigfoot," and the curious impression that it appears to be a human being wearing a gorilla outfit. The head displays a rather prominent sagittal crest and robust mandibular musculature, indicative of a knuckle-walking ape like a gorilla or orangutan. The foramen magnum of such a skull is located toward the rear of the braincase, indicating a semi-erect posture. The foramen magnum on our own skull and the skulls of the australopithecines and the paranthropes is located closer to the palate, indicating a fully erect posture required for bipedalism. We of course lack a sagittal crest and while paranthropus possessed one, it wasn't as prominent as a gorilla's or an orangutan's. For reference, the sagittal crest serves as an anchor for very powerful jaw muscles. Other mammals like bears possess one. The gait suggests a skeleton that doesn't fit the dimensions of the creature depicted. A creature of that size and form would possess a loping gait, not smoothly articulated movement with smaller steps like what we see in this video. If I were to chance a guess as to who is underneath the gorilla suit, I'd say it was a representative of Homo Sapiens. A mountain gorilla skull. You'll see the sagittal crest, prominent brow ridge, and the prognathism ("long face"). The bony shield on the lower region of the skull serves as an anchor point for short, powerful neck and back muscles. Here's a representative of a Paranthropus (or "robust" australopithecine) skull. You'll note the marked differences between this one and the gorilla skull. Paranthropus was bipedal, unlike the gorilla. The skull has a sagittal crest, but it's much less prominent. Prognathism is still evident. Finally, here's our own skull. No sagittal crest, no prognathism...in fact, our skull looks weird when you compare it to the skulls of other apes. By the way, the cranial fissures on our skull are unique to our species. I posted those so folks might see how skull morphology changes with fully-erect, bipedal apes like ourselves and our ancient australopithecine relatives. If "bigfoot" exists...and bigfoot is a fully erect bipedal ape...then bigfoot would more than likely resemble a robust australopithecine like parathropus, not a semi-erect knuckle-walker like a gorilla.
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Aug 29, 2013 22:33:36 GMT -6
Post by lois on Aug 29, 2013 22:33:36 GMT -6
Here's another video that supposedly was taken in Canada. The figure in it is small but interesting. There's no telling if it is a real sasquatch though, especially at hat distance. sky . I keep watching this video and do not understand how you people can describe it as I cannot tell what it even looks like. When he walks it is too blurry. I tried stopping all the frames but it did not help in the least. Guess I must be going blind. I could tell in the film when he left the tree he walks like he is stumbling too much . Like maybe a man would do not knowing the terrain. What is he supposedly doing by that tree.? If any one can tell. What bewildered posted.. in comparison to the video did not help as the video I do not see the things he posted in it. My lost I guess. What are those white objects that keep flying upward off the screen? Are they all bugs? Some are very large bugs to me.
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Aug 29, 2013 22:57:29 GMT -6
Post by skywalker on Aug 29, 2013 22:57:29 GMT -6
This video was supposedly taken on the 4th. I've already formed a few opinions about it but wanted to see what you guys think. We were talking about this video here that I had posted earlier. This is the one that looks to me like a hoax. I don't know about that other video. The thing is too far away to see any details about it. It could be anything at that distance.
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Sept 10, 2013 12:55:57 GMT -6
Post by auntym on Sept 10, 2013 12:55:57 GMT -6
lexch.com/news/regional/teen-s-hairy-run-in-with--footer-probed-as/article_84b238bc-1958-11e3-8c69-0019bb2963f4.html#.Ui7tXx-_scE.twitter Teen's hairy run-in with 7-footer probed as Bigfoot encounterPosted: Monday, September 9, 2013 by Paul Hammel World-Herald News Service LINCOLN -- Before July, Saunders County Sheriff Kevin Stukenholtz had never fielded a call about Bigfoot over a lifetime in law enforcement. Now he has a big mystery on his hands. Stukenholtz, along with the Nebraska Game and Parks Commission, investigated a reported sighting of an unidentified "hairy" creature in late July on a country road that parallels the Platte River. A hair sample found at the site was still being analyzed. A 15-year-old reported seeing the creature, which he said stood about 7 feet tall on two legs as it ran in front of the vehicle the youth was driving about 5:30 a.m. The creature then disappeared into the trees along the river. Stukenholtz, who became county sheriff six years ago after a long career with the Nebraska State Patrol, said he has no reason to believe the report was a hoax. His office is awaiting a report about hair gathered from the scene, between Morse Bluff and Linwood, about 60 miles west of Omaha. The sheriff said that even though he thinks it's highly unlikely that Sasquatch has shown up in Saunders County, his office has an obligation to check out credible reports. The sighting comes as Sasquatch is enjoying a run in the media spotlight. "Finding Bigfoot," a reality show on the Animal Planet cable channel, follows a group of investigators trying to confirm the existence of the 7-foot-tall reclusive giant creatures. There's a Sasquatch Music Festival in central Washington, a Sasquatch Brewing Co. in Portland that features Hairy Knuckles Stout, and a string of hilarious TV commercials for a beef jerky company based on the gag "Messin' with Sasquatch." But Bigfoot sightings are no joking matter for some. Jeff Meldrum, an anthropology and anatomy professor at Idaho State University who has extensively studied Bigfoot sightings, said he's skeptical of any reports from Nebraska because the state doesn't have the expansive wilderness necessary for a large primate. But Meldrum, author of the 2009 book "Sasquatch: Legend Meets Science," said that despite some Bigfoot hoaxes, people shouldn't discount that such creatures might exist. The report wouldn't be the first for Nebraska, according to the Montana-based Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization, which lists reported Sasquatch sightings on its website. The group lists 14 reported sightings in the state going back to 1957. The most recent sighting listed was in October 2006 at Chadron State Park in northwest Nebraska, where three hikers reported seeing an "unusually tall" two-legged animal covered from head to toe in black fur. CONTINUE READING: lexch.com/news/regional/teen-s-hairy-run-in-with--footer-probed-as/article_84b238bc-1958-11e3-8c69-0019bb2963f4.html#.Ui7tXx-_scE.twitter
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Sept 10, 2013 19:20:11 GMT -6
Post by skywalker on Sept 10, 2013 19:20:11 GMT -6
Good call on that video, sky. I agree with your judgment that it was staged, but two other things stand out to me: the gait of "bigfoot," and the curious impression that it appears to be a human being wearing a gorilla outfit. The head displays a rather prominent sagittal crest and robust mandibular musculature, indicative of a knuckle-walking ape like a gorilla or orangutan. The foramen magnum of such a skull is located toward the rear of the braincase, indicating a semi-erect posture. The foramen magnum on our own skull and the skulls of the australopithecines and the paranthropes is located closer to the palate, indicating a fully erect posture required for bipedalism. We of course lack a sagittal crest and while paranthropus possessed one, it wasn't as prominent as a gorilla's or an orangutan's. For reference, the sagittal crest serves as an anchor for very powerful jaw muscles. Other mammals like bears possess one. The gait suggests a skeleton that doesn't fit the dimensions of the creature depicted. A creature of that size and form would possess a loping gait, not smoothly articulated movement with smaller steps like what we see in this video. If I were to chance a guess as to who is underneath the gorilla suit, I'd say it was a representative of Homo Sapiens. A mountain gorilla skull. You'll see the sagittal crest, prominent brow ridge, and the prognathism ("long face"). The bony shield on the lower region of the skull serves as an anchor point for short, powerful neck and back muscles. Here's a representative of a Paranthropus (or "robust" australopithecine) skull. You'll note the marked differences between this one and the gorilla skull. Paranthropus was bipedal, unlike the gorilla. The skull has a sagittal crest, but it's much less prominent. Prognathism is still evident. Finally, here's our own skull. No sagittal crest, no prognathism...in fact, our skull looks weird when you compare it to the skulls of other apes. By the way, the cranial fissures on our skull are unique to our species. I posted those so folks might see how skull morphology changes with fully-erect, bipedal apes like ourselves and our ancient australopithecine relatives. If "bigfoot" exists...and bigfoot is a fully erect bipedal ape...then bigfoot would more than likely resemble a robust australopithecine like parathropus, not a semi-erect knuckle-walker like a gorilla. Very true, BW. Because of it's upright posture a bigfoot's skull would not look like a gorilla's skull. Most people believe that bigfoot would be a close descendant of a prehistoric bipedal ape called a gigantopithecus which lived in the eastern part of Asia just a few million years ago. Some bigfoot researchers claim that the two critters are identical to one another however it's not really possible to make that claim because gigantopithecus is only known from a few bone fragments...mainly teeth and a small portion of a lower jaw bone. Scientists think they have enough evidence from the jaw bone to speculate that the creature was bipedal but there is still no way to know for sure what it really looked like. It definitely did not look like a gorilla though.
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Sept 11, 2013 8:03:57 GMT -6
Post by bewildered on Sept 11, 2013 8:03:57 GMT -6
Based on similar mandibular morphology (a "V" shaped jaw), I'm of the school that thinks gigantopithecus more closely resembled a huge organgutan. Teeth are a very important clue to the overall nature of an organism, and theirs were indicative of a creature accustomed to eating tough, fibrous vegetation like the gorilla does. Like the gorilla their jaw was thick, and "V" shaped jaws indicates a "long" face just like you see in extant apes like chimps, gorillas and orangutans. Examples: Gorilla mandible Gigantopithecus mandible Australopithecine mandible Human (Homo Sapiens) mandible The australopithecines (as well as paranthropus) were bipeds. Notice the "U" shape shared in common with us. The pattern appears to be as follows: quadrupeds have "longer" faces (and the position of the foramen magnum is toward the rear of the skull) and thus "V" shaped jaws; knuckle-walking apes also have a "long" face and a "V" shaped jaw; bipedal apes have "short" faces and a "U" shaped jaw.
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Sept 11, 2013 8:22:27 GMT -6
Post by bewildered on Sept 11, 2013 8:22:27 GMT -6
"If" bigfoot actually exists, then I would think the creature would closely resemble a robust australopith or paranthropus (both mean the same thing). The evidence that the evolutionary line which led to us originated from the australopithecines is exceedingly strong, for the teeth of the so-called "gracile" australopiths (like Afarensis and Africanus) are almost identical to our own. Their footprints were found in an exceedingly ancient volcanic ash bed, yet another clue to their completely upright posture. The biggest difference between us and the other apes lies in our obligate bipedalism...babies instinctively strive to stand upright at a certain stage in their development; they do so without intervention or help from their parents. What parent isn't overjoyed when they notice their little tyke pulling themselves upright with the help of a coffee table? Just like our first words, our first attempt at standing upright is a milestone that some of us try to preserve in a photo album. Bigfoot is alleged to be an ape-like biped, and based upon what we know of bipedal apes (we ourselves are one), certain patterns of morphology should be present. The only reason I doubt a creature like bigfoot currently exists resides in the lack of forensic and physical evidence. Living creatures can easily elude detection (wolves in the wild are a great example of that), but dead animals can't. Their remains lie where they expired unless they are purposefully moved by a living thing. General probability suggests that if living "bigfeet" exist, then dead ones are also present. If so, then the odds are stacked in favor of locating at least a portion of their remains; since those remains would be modern, DNA extraction from those remains could be conducted. DNA tells the rest of the story.
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Sept 11, 2013 20:47:46 GMT -6
Post by auntym on Sept 11, 2013 20:47:46 GMT -6
David Letterman reports on Bigfoot 1978
Uploaded on Jul 31, 2010
David Letterman travels to Washington State to report on the legend of Bigfoot in this clip from the 1978 comedy special "Peeping Times", created by Barry Levinson and Rudy DeLuca.
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Sept 14, 2013 14:54:05 GMT -6
Post by auntym on Sept 14, 2013 14:54:05 GMT -6
www.radiotimes.com/news/2013-09-10/david-attenborough-i-believe-the-abominable-snowman-may-be-real David Attenborough: "I believe the Abominable Snowman may be real"The respected naturalist and broadcaster thinks the legendary Yeti could really exist and be living in the Himalayan MountainsWritten By Ben Dowell 10 September 2013 David Attenborough believes that the Yeti – or Abominable Snowman – may be real. The world-renowned naturalist and broadcaster says he thinks the creature of Himalayan legend – which has a North American cousin known as Bigfoot or Sasquatch – could be much more than a myth. “I believe the Abominable Snowman may be real. I think there may be something in that," said Attenborough, speaking today at a showcase of upcoming programmes on UKTV. “There are footprints that stretch for hundreds of miles and we know that in the 1930’s a German fossil was found with these huge molars that were four or five times the size of human molars. “They had to be the molars of a large ape, one that was huge, about 10 or 12 feet tall. It was immense. And it is not impossible that it might exist. If you have walked the Himalayas there are these immense rhododrendron forests that go on for hundreds of square miles which could hold the Yeti." Attenborough, who was addressing an audience at the Saatchi Gallery to promote a second series of Natural Curiosities on the Eden channel, explained why the existence of the beast had not been proven up until now: “If there are some still alive and you walked near their habitat you can bet that these creatures may be aware of you, but you wouldn’t be aware of them.” In an interview with Radio Times published today, the 87-year-old naturalist and broadcaster also reveals that even though he had a pacemaker fitted in June, he will never slow down his work commitments. He says of the medical procedure: “It was no big deal. When you’re in your 80s, your heart gives you a funny five minutes every now and again and they won’t insure you unless you have a cardiologist to say that you can go on a long-haul flight. So I had to have the pacemaker.” Sir David says he has also had a knee replaced last year – and is equally blasé about that operation. “If you’ve got a motorcar and its brakes fail, and you have the capacity to replace them, you replace them. And we have the capacity to replace knees, which is wonderful. www.radiotimes.com/news/2013-09-10/david-attenborough-i-believe-the-abominable-snowman-may-be-real“I don’t ever want to stop work. Sure, something’s going to wear out some time and I won’t be able to do it, but while I can – and people want me to, and people look at the result – I’m delighted to work. If I was earning my money by hewing coal I would be very glad indeed to stop. But I’m not; I’m swanning around the world looking at the most fabulously interesting things. Such good fortune.” www.radiotimes.com/news/2013-09-10/david-attenborough-i-believe-the-abominable-snowman-may-be-real
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Sept 14, 2013 15:32:29 GMT -6
Post by bewildered on Sept 14, 2013 15:32:29 GMT -6
The molar referred to in the article belonged to gigantopithecus, although characterizing it as a "German" fossil is misleading. It was discovered by Ralph von Koenigswald, a German paleoanthropologist, in Hong Kong in 1935. The gigantopithecus fossils were found in China and Southeast Asia, which roughly corresponds to the range of orangutans in the modern day. Based upon morphological studies, gigantopithecus is considered to be a close relative of the modern-day orangutan. It was a knuckle-walker, like all other apes except for ourselves (we are the only surviving bipedal ape). Here's an article about gigantopithecus from the Smithsonian Magazine: blogs.smithsonianmag.com/hominids/2012/01/did-bigfoot-really-exist-how-gigantopithecus-became-extinct/Here's some footprints for reference. Compare them to the alleged "bigfoot" prints, and you'll see that if bigfoot actually exists, it would resemble a near-human ancestor like australopithecus, not a knuckle-walking ape like gorillas or the extinct gigantopithecus. Gorilla footprint (knuckle-walker) Chimpanzee (knuckle-walker) footprint compared to a human (bipedal) footprint Here's a footprint from an australopithecine preserved in volcanic ash. It's millions of years old. They were bipedal like we are.
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Sept 14, 2013 15:54:23 GMT -6
Post by skywalker on Sept 14, 2013 15:54:23 GMT -6
I'm thinking that bigfoot is a lot more human than people think it is...or at least a lot more intelligent than people give it credit for. It's reported behavior is much more like an aboriginal human than a modern ape like a gorilla or chimpanzee. Bigfeets have been reported to hunt animals, build shelters and possibly even build fires. That level of intelligence may explain why they are so hard to find. If they really do have such "civilized" cultural behavior maybe they bury their dead too. That could explain the lack of remains.
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Sept 14, 2013 16:00:49 GMT -6
Post by auntym on Sept 14, 2013 16:00:49 GMT -6
I'm thinking that bigfoot is a lot more human than people think it is...or at least a lot more intelligent than people give it credit for. It's reported behavior is much more like an aboriginal human than a modern ape like a gorilla or chimpanzee. Bigfeets have been reported to hunt animals, build shelters and possibly even build fires. That level of intelligence may explain why they are so hard to find. If they really do have such "civilized" cultural behavior maybe they bury their dead too. That could explain the lack of remains. ... not to forget they have also been known to save lost campers & hikers by carrying them to safety... somewhere on this thread is a story about that...
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Sept 14, 2013 17:13:28 GMT -6
Post by skywalker on Sept 14, 2013 17:13:28 GMT -6
For real? I don't remember reading that one. Lemme go look.
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Sept 14, 2013 17:36:14 GMT -6
Post by bewildered on Sept 14, 2013 17:36:14 GMT -6
I'm thinking that bigfoot is a lot more human than people think it is...or at least a lot more intelligent than people give it credit for. It's reported behavior is much more like an aboriginal human than a modern ape like a gorilla or chimpanzee. Bigfeets have been reported to hunt animals, build shelters and possibly even build fires. That level of intelligence may explain why they are so hard to find. If they really do have such "civilized" cultural behavior maybe they bury their dead too. That could explain the lack of remains. My thoughts exactly. Australopithecus is a great example to compare it to, since they were bipedal and part of the ancestral line that caused our species to come into being (their teeth and feet were virtually identical to our own). If you saw one right now the creature would look more like us than chimps do, though there would be obvious differences (skull and facial features being the most obvious). I'm far from convinced that bigfoot exists, but that doesn't mean I think that such a creature doesn't exist. I'm always open to evidence. I have an issue with remains, though. The remains of such an anomalous australopithecus-like creature (a very big one!) should have been found by now. After all, even though humans (including Neandertals) have been burying their dead for thousands and thousands of years, we come across ancient burial sites quite frequently. I have no doubt that living creatures can elude detection, but dead ones? I have a tough time with that.
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Sept 14, 2013 19:27:34 GMT -6
Post by auntym on Sept 14, 2013 19:27:34 GMT -6
I'm thinking that bigfoot is a lot more human than people think it is...or at least a lot more intelligent than people give it credit for. It's reported behavior is much more like an aboriginal human than a modern ape like a gorilla or chimpanzee. Bigfeets have been reported to hunt animals, build shelters and possibly even build fires. That level of intelligence may explain why they are so hard to find. If they really do have such "civilized" cultural behavior maybe they bury their dead too. That could explain the lack of remains. ... not to forget they have also been known to save lost campers & hikers by carrying them to safety... somewhere on this thread is a story about that... HERE'S THE STORY ABOUT BIGFOOT CARRYING AN INJURED HIKER TO SAFETY...
its the 2nd story... it starts at 3:15
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Sept 19, 2013 20:01:31 GMT -6
Post by swamprat on Sept 19, 2013 20:01:31 GMT -6
Looking for Bigfoot? New Map Shows Where to SearchBy Marc Lallanilla, Assistant Editor | September 19, 2013 Reported sightings of Bigfoot — the legendary apelike creature that's been a favorite of cryptozoologists for decades — have abounded for decades. Now, for the first time, someone has created a map showing the places where alleged Bigfoot sightings have occurred. Joshua Stevens, a doctoral candidate at Pennsylvania State University, used data compiled by the Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization (BFRO), which tries to document "the presence of an animal, probably a primate, that exists today in very low population densities," according to the group's website. Stevens converted the BFRO data and, using geographic-information software, plotted 3,313 data points showing where people have claimed to see Bigfoot (aka Sasquatch, Skunk Ape, Yeti, Skookum or dozens of other names). "Right away, you can see that sightings are not evenly distributed," Stevens said on his website. "There are distinct regions where sightings are incredibly common, despite a very sparse population. On the other hand, in some of the most densely populated areas, Sasquatch sightings are exceedingly rare. The terrain and habitat likely play a major role in the distribution of reports." The map, which uses reports from 1921 to 2012, shows a plethora of supposed sightings in the Pacific Northwest, the Ohio River Valley, central Florida, the Sierra Nevada mountain range and the Mississippi River Valley. Stevens' analysis also includes a chronological timeline showing a rise in reported sightings in the late 1970s (perhaps coinciding with the release of several B-movies about the mythical creature). Another spike in reported Bigfoot sightings occurred between 2000 and 2009. Despite his exhaustive analysis of the BFRO data, Stevens stops short of giving the information more credibility than it deserves. "Ultimately, I'm not convinced there's a descendant of [giant ape] Gigantopithecus playing hide-and-seek in the Pacific Northwest," Stevens said. "But if respectable folks like … primatologist Jane Goodall believe there's something more to the myth, I think it's at least worth putting on the map." Goodall, in an interview that was broadcast on NPR in 2006, said, "I'm sure that they exist." The famed primate researcher also confessed, "Well, I'm a romantic, so I always wanted that." A handful of other academics, including Jeffrey Meldrum, professor of anatomy and anthropology at Idaho State University in Pocatello, have taken a scientific interest in the legend of Bigfoot, but to date, no hard evidence of any hominid or apelike creature has been substantiated. All alleged samples of Bigfoot hair, for example, have turned out to be from elk, bears or cows. Photos, audio and film footage have been determined to be inconclusive or hoaxes, and no bodily remains have ever been found — despite the fact that there would have to be hundreds or thousands of the creatures in existence in order to maintain the "species." But Bigfoot enthusiasts will no doubt continue their search undaunted — and now, thanks to Stevens' map, they know where to look. www.livescience.com/39785-bigfoot-map-sasquatch-sightings-gis.html
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Sept 24, 2013 9:41:17 GMT -6
Post by skywalker on Sept 24, 2013 9:41:17 GMT -6
I have an issue with remains, though. The remains of such an anomalous australopithecus-like creature (a very big one!) should have been found by now. After all, even though humans (including Neandertals) have been burying their dead for thousands and thousands of years, we come across ancient burial sites quite frequently. I have no doubt that living creatures can elude detection, but dead ones? I have a tough time with that. I don't think that the lack of remains is all that unusual, especially for a creature that may not have a very large population. There are a lot of animals that leave few remains behind. People very rarely find dead bears or mountain lions and there are a lot more of those than there are bigfeets. I also found this explanation for the lack of remains on the BFRO website... The most commonly heard argument against the Bigfoot-Giganto hypothesis is that "we should have found their bones in North America by now..." This argument is, in fact, weak when one considers that very few remains of Gigantos have ever been found in Asia, where they were much more abundant. Tens of thousands of years of Gigantos' accepted existence in Asia would have produced literally millions of Giganto skeletons, yet the volume of collected remains from Asia is so small that the entire collection could fit easily in one suitcase.bfro.net/ref/theories/mjm/whatrtha.aspMost of the remains of gigantopithecus found in situ in Asia were found in caves, and even then they were little more than teeth and jaw fragments. Perhaps if archaeological excavations were done in caves in reported bigfoot territory some remains might be found. Then again it is also possible that bigfeet don't live in caves. Without knowing much about their behavior and lifestyle we really don't have any idea where to even look. With all of the wilderness areas that cover North America finding any remains would be like searching for a needle in a million hay stacks.
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