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Post by skywalker on Mar 30, 2011 7:05:02 GMT -6
A newly discovered comet named Elenin will pass close to the Earth some time around August or September of 2011. At its closest point it is expected to pass within 21,000,000 miles of us which is pretty close for a comet. The Moon is approximately 240,000 miles away. Scientists are still uncertain exactly what path the comet will follow because it is so recently discovered and there are many things that may affect it's orbit between now and then. Naturally, the doom and gloom conspiracy theorists are going wacko about it. Read more about it here... www.earthpulsedaily.net/epd-post/nasa-s-buzz-about-comet-elenin
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Post by sansseed on Mar 30, 2011 8:07:50 GMT -6
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Post by paulette on Mar 30, 2011 13:16:46 GMT -6
I started reading the very long various prophecies above - but will return to them. I was shaken b by the accounts and need to go slowly.
Comets look blue in the sky.
Somehow I feel more relaxed about being taken out by a comet than by man's idiocy. Although the two many be com-mixed in a spiritual way. I do believe that "modern" man has taken the wrong path and a serious adjustment is necessary if this planet is to survive with life that is varied enough to change into whatever is necessary to fill the ecological niches that open and close in the big patterns. The "serious adjustment" requires us to be about 1/6 of the mass of what we humans are now. And also limited in our procreation.
I am willing to be on the eliminated list. It has been a good run but increasingly I am heartsick over the oil and nuclear spills and disregard folks have for each other. Enough is enough.
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Post by snorkelet on May 7, 2011 12:23:21 GMT -6
Below is credible information from a Cornell University Professor who states that comet Elenin has and will cause major earthquakes and tsunami's. Does anyone have a link to FEMA's request for major quanitites of food for disaster reasons? theintelhub.com/2011/05/06/dr-mark-sircus-planetary-awarenesscomet-elenin/arxiv.org/abs/1104.2036sites.google.com/site/omerbashich/NASA Elenin 2011 Comet - Planetary Alignments with Comet Elenin Causing Big Earthquakes There seems to be a pattern forming every time Elenin lines up with Earth and another planet or the sun we have an earthquake, the nearer Elenin gets the bigger the earthquakes. Past Elenin Allurements and Earthquakes: Past Alignments Date Location Magnitude Elenin - Earth - Sun Feb 20 2008 Indonesia 7.4 Elenin - Earth - Sun Feb 25 2008 Indonesia 7.2 Elenin - Earth - Neptune May 12 2008 China 7.9 Elenin - Earth - Sun Feb 18 2009 Kermadec Islands 7.0 Elenin - Earth -Jupiter May 18 2009 Los Angeles, US 4.7 Elenin - Mercury- Earth July 15 2009 New Zealand 7.8 Elenin - Mercury - Earth Aug 09 2009 Japan 7.1 Elenin - Sun - Earth Sept 09 2009 Sunola islands 8.1 Elenin - Earth - Venus Feb 18 2010 China/RU/N.Korea 6.9 Elenin - Earth-Sun Feb 25 2010 China 5.2 Elenin - Earth-Sun Feb 26 2010 Japan 7.0 Elenin - Earth- Sun Feb 27 2010 Chile 8.8 [Earth knocked off axis] Elenin - Earth- Sun Feb 27 2010 Argentina 6.3 Elenin - Earth - Mercury Mar 04 2010 Taiwan 6.3 Elenin - Earth - Mercury Mar 04 2010 Vanuatu 6.5 Elenin - Earth - Mercury Mar 05 2010 Chile 6.6 Elenin - Earth - Mercury Mar 05 2010 Indonesia 6.3 Elenin - Earth - Mercury Mar 08 2010 Turkey 6.1 Elenin - Earth - Neptune May 05 2010 Indonesia 6.6 Elenin - Earth - Neptune May 06 2010 Chile 6.2 Elenin - Earth - Neptune May 09 2010 Indonesia 7.2 Elenin - Earth - Neptune May 14 2010 Algeria 5.2 Elenin - Earth - Jupiter Jan 03 2011 Chile 7.0 Elenin - Earth - Sun March 11 2011 Japan 9.0 [Earth knocked off axis] Future Elenin Allurements: Future Alignments Date Note Elenin - Mercury - Mars - Earth Sept 06 2011 Mercury - Sun - Elenin Sept 25 2011 Sun - Elenin - Jupiter Oct 11 2011 Elenin 0.246au from Earth; that’s a quarter of the distance to the sun. Oct 17 2011 Elenin closet to earth 0.232au Oct 20 2011 Elenin will enter Earth orbit and we will experience a gravitational pull. Nov 02 2011 Earth enter Elenins tail/ previous path Venus - Earth- Elenin - Mercury Nov 11 2011 Sun - Mercury - Earth - Elenin Dec 04 2011 Mars - Elenin - Jupiter Dec 25 2011 Last Alignment Elenin - Earth - Sun Dec 21 2012 Elenin Comet On 10 December 2010, Leonid Elenin, a little known amateur Russian astronomer from Lubertsy City, in Russia, discovered Comet C/2010 X1, a comet now universally known as Elenin. The researcher from the Russian Academy of Sciences spotted the C/2010 X1 while reviewing four-minute footage from the ISON-NB Observatory (International Scientific Optical Network's Robotic Observatory) in New Mexico. At the time of discovery, an analysis of its orbit predicted that its perihelion (closest orbital distance to the sun) was a very negligible 8.8 Astronomical Unit (1a.u equals 149,598,000 kilometers) from us. Recalculation of its orbital path one month later shows that the Elenin’s perihelion has shrunk to a projected 0.15 to 0.24 a.u. Scientific paper on planetary alignments causing Big Earthquakes: According to Mensur Omerbashich he used the comet C/2010 X1 (Elenin) for his research, as it has been adding to robustness in terms of very strong seismicity since 2007 (in terms of strongest seismicity: since 1965). The Elenin will continue intensifying the Earth's very strong seismicity until August-October, 2011. Approximate forecast of earthquakes based on my discoveries is feasible. This demonstration proves my hyperresonator concept, arrived at earlier as a mathematical-physical solution to the most general extension of the georesonator concept possible. Comet Elenin Path: www.eutimes.net/tag/comet-elenin/www.earthquakeastrology.com/september-27-2011-comet-elenin-nibiru-orbit-path-projectilethewatchers.adorraeli.com/2011/03/01/russian-warning-issued-over-%E2%80%9Ccontrolled%E2%80%9D-comet-headed-towards-earth/
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2011 12:47:58 GMT -6
Sheesh..everyone was worried about ole Nibiru and all the time it's been Elenin. Drat if it's not one catastrophe..it's another. Fact is...why worry? We can't stop the future..but we can make the day count
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Post by skywalker on May 7, 2011 14:09:03 GMT -6
How can a comet that's a gazillion miles away be having an effect on the Earth? could the Earthquakes be a coincidence?
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Post by snorkelet on May 7, 2011 14:31:43 GMT -6
Each major quake aligns with this comet. Cornell University admits it's not a coincidence. This information is fairly new, so I'm wondering if more scientists will comment.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2011 16:09:07 GMT -6
How can a comet that's a gazillion miles away be having an effect on the Earth? could the Earthquakes be a coincidence? I presume it would have something to do with gravitational forces pushing against each other... but I'm not a scientist. ~shrug~ It might be a really big comet, and if it is pushing against the moon, the Earth, and other planets in the solar system, it might affect the crust of the earth, thus producing earthquakes and tsunamis. The moon has been known to cause the tides after all... by gravitational forces only. This is my educated guess.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2011 16:09:58 GMT -6
Sheesh..everyone was worried about ole Nibiru and all the time it's been Elenin. Drat if it's not one catastrophe..it's another. Fact is...why worry? We can't stop the future..but we can make the day count ;D
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Post by Steve on May 7, 2011 21:52:13 GMT -6
Have you noticed in the statement the Cornell professor's name is curiously unavailable? If you believe this, you also believe someone sneezing in Kansas will cause a major automobile accident in Mongolia. Elenin will have at best as much comparable influence on our planet. 21,000,000 miles (best present estimated closest distance) divided by 240,000 (distance - Earth to Moon) = 87.5 Earth to Moon distance units. Or another comparison - if the earth was the size of a baseball (professional hardball size) placed on the goal line of a football stadium - to that scale - the closest approach by Elenin (size of an ant?) would be over 2.5 football fields away from that baseball. Only shame is NASA spent a big sum to send a probe to & land on a comet. For almost the same close images (Hubble?), the comet is coming to NASA! Steve
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Post by snorkelet on May 8, 2011 7:27:00 GMT -6
His name isn't unavailable, you have to register on Cornell University's website to receive the full research paper. I've attached it. I'm in discussions right now with a Nasa Scientist on the NASA Forum, and I've emailed (waiting for a reply, only sent yesterday) Professor Omerbashich as his email is clearly noted on the heading of his paper. Of course, I am trying to verify the video on You Tube as him (it could be anyone, or from a movie for that matter) as his research paper is pushing facts only and states in the "conclusion" section that October of this year will be of concern. The video on the other hand says we need to basically fear for our lives during Sept & Oct. Therefore, before I go and quit my job and camp at church (kidding), I am qualifying these statements with credible people. Others should and are welcome to do the same. Attachments:
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Post by skywalker on May 8, 2011 9:53:23 GMT -6
Thanks for the link to the research paper, snorkelet. I'm still reading through all of the data but it sounds like an interesting theory.
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Post by skywalker on May 8, 2011 10:05:01 GMT -6
I couldn't help but notice that the date that this comet is predicted to enter the Earth's orbit and start having the largest effect on us just happens to coincide with Harold Camping's prediction that the world will end on October 21, 2011.
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Post by snorkelet on May 8, 2011 10:43:04 GMT -6
Apparently, he changed it to May 21, 2011
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Post by snorkelet on May 8, 2011 10:47:47 GMT -6
I should have read the full article as he does say Armageden will start this October.
Taken from an article about Harold Camp: Still, according to Rapture doctrine, most people will barely notice that Judgment Day has gone by. That's because May 21 is, according to Camping, the day when only the righteous will be saved and taken to heaven. Everyone else, on the other hand, will have to remain on Earth for a period of torment. The real fire and brimstone show, Camping further predicts, will get under way in October.
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Post by skywalker on May 8, 2011 11:09:47 GMT -6
Harold predicts that the rapture will supposedly occur on May 21 and the world will end on October 21. I didn't see and planetary alignments that were scheduled to take place in May so there is no telling where he got that date from but I bet this comet had something to do with his doom and gloom prediction for October. I'm sure he is not the only one making that prediction.
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Post by Steve on May 8, 2011 12:47:18 GMT -6
Scanned over Professor Omerbashich paper too. Difficult for me to imagine as Omerbashich thinks planet and local celestial body alignments can demonstrate that much influence on the Earth's tectonic plates. It just seems we have seen these 'alignments' expected to cause such havoc - have all flopped before. But the coinciding of 8 magnitude Earthquakes with orbital planetary alignments seems on the surface more than just a coincidence. As a kid, we all in class could see on a world globe obviously how the continents would seem to have been connected together at some point - but 'continental drift' is today well accepted. Could our scientific abilities be such to detect now such influences, and the pseudo-science/ religious crowd is simply exploiting for themselves at our anxieties expense? It is interesting, will wait and see I guess. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_CampingCamping (90) also thinks the Earth is only a little over 13,000 years old too. At his age maybe he is referring to himself about the end of the world? Steve Why do people do this? Looks like a Frito's 'corn' chips truck.
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Post by skywalker on May 8, 2011 16:33:30 GMT -6
The idea that gravitational pull from planetary bodies could have an effect on seismic activity on Earth actually does make a little bit of sense. Some of the planets in our solar system are pretty big and could therefor exert a pretty strong gravitational pull. We know that our tiny little moon causes land tides as well as water tides, so every time one of the planets gets near to us it could pull on us as well. Normally they are all pulling from different directions so the effect is probably not that noticeable, but if several were to line up the combined gravitational pull from them would be much stronger than normal. It's a possibility. If these large quakes continue to happen during planetary conjunctions as predicted then it would lend considerable credence to Professor Omerbashich's theory. And if the theory is correct it will be very interesting to see what happens when this comet gets closer to us. If that thing is pulling a 30,000 kilometer wide debris field along with it like they claim there may be plenty of fireworks lighting up the sky...possibly the ground also. I'm not ready to rush out and buy a tin-foil hat and paint my car so it looks like a box of Fruit loops, but it might be interesting.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2011 17:02:51 GMT -6
Bear in mind...this is the second time Harold the herald has predicted the rapture. 4 years ago I think..was his other target date. I definitely missed that one. While I believe that cosmic bodies have effect on the earth..I don't believe it does from so far away..if that were the case other closer bodies would be of influence. I also believe if there was truth to it..a lot of other scientists might be in accord. In my humble opinion anyway. Anyone can have an opinion..I just don't share this one Now if I'm wrong..on May 22 (if I miss the boat) I'll apologize
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Post by snorkelet on May 9, 2011 8:32:25 GMT -6
Please watch this video and plug the coordinates into Google Earth, view, explore, sky and you will find the section blocked out (black) by Google. This is very disturbing.
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Post by skywalker on May 9, 2011 9:28:50 GMT -6
It may be blacked out on the computer but they can't block the actual sky out. What's to stop somebody else from getting a telecope and looking up there? If there really is something there it should still be visible.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2011 9:45:43 GMT -6
The comet is real enough Sky but the reaction to it is really mixed (you KNOW how the dooms dayers are). Comet C/2010 X1 (Elenin) is a long-period comet discovered by Russian astronomer Leonid Elenin on December 10, 2010 at International Scientific Optical Network's robotic observatory near Mayhill, New Mexico, U.S.A. C/2010 X1 will come to perihelion (closest approach to the Sun) on 10 September 2011 at a distance of about 0.48 AU. On 16 October 2011, the comet will pass within about 0.23 AU (34,000,000 km; 21,000,000 mi) of the Earth[2] at a relative velocity of 85,000 km/hr.[2] This relatively bright comet can reach 6th magnitude on September-October 2011. The latest news about comet C/2010 X1 (Elenin). At the moment the comet’s orbit has been calculated well enough that there will be no serious changes. The comet remains in a hyperbolic orbit with e = 1.0006. Perihelion, at a distance of 0.48114 a.u. (+/- 0.0006), will be September 10, 2011. Closest approach to the Earth will be October 16th (Δ = 0.24 а.u.). [35,903,520 km] ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/... has refined the closest approach to 2.132 a.u. or 22,309,413 miles. It's still a miss. The thing is..if you're going to investigate..then you have to take in all of the material...I think...not just the scary stuff..but both the pros and cons of a subject. What I think is more likely...is that false prophets like Harold are going to scare the population into a lot of suicides and panic behavior. Murder rates will rise and cults will spring up over night and the real danger will be your fellow man. Watch for reports by scientists like Hawking or Kaku...and reports from the amateur astronomers because if it's headed target on..no one can keep it a secret.
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Post by snorkelet on May 9, 2011 16:05:54 GMT -6
Here's an interview from Robert Harrington, supervising astronomer, US naval observatory.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2011 9:45:02 GMT -6
Robert Harrington died in 1993 of esophageal cancer. Robert Harrington used to be the head of the Naval Observatory and was a supporter of Zecharia Sitchin's work. (Sitchin's hypotheses are not accepted by scientists and academics, who dismiss his work as pseudoscience and pseudohistory. Sitchin's work has been criticized for flawed methodology and mistranslations of ancient texts as well as for incorrect astronomical and scientific claims) Harrington became a believer in the existence of a Planet X beyond Pluto and undertook searches for it, unsuccessfully. He based his theories on the movements of the outer planets and a possible influence from an unknown body in the solar system. www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_autor_harrington01.htmWhile it's interesting to speculate and we all do it..we still have to remember that all of the 'planet x (or niburu) theory is just that..theory..there isn't any hard evidence of the planet's existence anywhere and we have some very high powered telescopes reaching into space now (Hubble is one). They didn't exist when Harrington was alive. Maybe there is some dark invisible planet in the outer reaches..or a errant comet in our future. I still think..working the best deal you can for each and every day is the best way to live..letting the future unfold as it's designed to do and leaving the past where it is..behind us. There are so many cool theories..read up on Phobos II sometime for there are some indications the Mars moon is hollow If Planet x barrels into the solar system with masses of Annuki lizzards in tow..well..we'll know that Stitchin and Harrington were right
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Post by auntym on Aug 20, 2011 0:55:43 GMT -6
news.discovery.com/space/comet-elenin-wont-kill-us-says-nasa-110817.html Comet Elenin Won't Kill Us, Says NASA Analysis by Ian O'Neill Wed Aug 17, 2011 You may have seen the scary headlines. You may have read those alarming emails. But do you believe it? Just in case, NASA has issued the facts about a comet called Elenin. And no, these aren't the "facts" doomsayers will tell you. In short, the 3-5 kilometer-wide comet can't hurt us. Really, it can't. It's too small and its closest approach to Earth will bring it 90 times the Earth-moon distance. 90 times the Earth-moon distance. That's a whopping 35 million kilometers (22 million miles) away. Could there be any conceivable impact to our everyday lives by this dirty snowball? Fireball WATCH VIDEOS: From meteors to asteroids, browse the Discovery News playlist and discover what it takes for a piece of space rock to turn potentially hazardous for life on Earth. ANALYSIS: Will Earthbound Comet Elenin Fulfill 2012 Prophecy? I seriously doubt this will calm the overactive imaginations of some conspiracy theorists, but NASA has felt the need to respond to the crazy theories being flung around and to address some of the more rational questions. (NASA did a similar thing in 2009 when responding to the 2012 doomsday nonsense, issuing a statement that there was no known astronomical reason for the end of the world on Dec. 21, 2012.) Helpfully, two NASA scientists have been hard at work over the past few months responding to questions from the public. Yesterday, NASA compiled some of the most popular questions, creating an "everything you ever needed to know about Comet Elenin" Q&A. The Elenin answers were provided by Don Yeomans of NASA's Near-Earth Object Program Office at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., and David Morrison of the NASA Astrobiology Institute at the NASA Ames Research Center in Moffett Field, Calif. Morrison is no stranger to responding to these kinds of questions, having become NASA's in-house 2012 doomsday debunker. OPINION: Nibiru - Armageddon Planet or Astronomical Baloney? (by David Morrison) It seems that doomsday theorists and astrologers alike believe that any celestial object, no matter how small or distant, can have some magical influence on Earth. Fortunately, this isn't true. "So you've got a modest-sized icy dirtball that is getting no closer than 35 million kilometers," said Yeomans. "It will have an immeasurably minuscule influence on our planet. By comparison, my subcompact automobile exerts a greater influence on the ocean's tides than comet Elenin ever will." Interestingly, the "marauding brown dwarf doomsday theory" has cropped up again, and in one question it's been tied in with the appearance of comet Elenin. If Elenin is actually a brown dwarf, surely that will have a huge gravitational influence on the solar system, right? CONTINUE READING: news.discovery.com/space/comet-elenin-wont-kill-us-says-nasa-110817.html
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2011 10:46:59 GMT -6
SO MUCH FOR DOOMSDAY: Comet Elenin (C/2010 X1), widely known for inaccurate reports of its threat to Earth, appears to be breaking apart. spaceweather.com/When this sort of thing happens..sort of like Harold's predictions or Blossoms..I dont' know whether to feel sorry for the predictors or just happy for for us LOL As in this prediction by a psychic: Psychic 9Nania has relocated to the mountains because of the coming Comet Elenin. She claims that because of the Comet’s impending proximity to Earth there will be many coming disasters. On September 26, Elenin will eclipse the Sun, and By October it should be pretty huge in the sky. There is a lot of mystery and controversy around the Comet Elenin. Some say it is a dwarf sun, others say it is the Planet Nibiru prophesized by the ancient Mayans. There seems to be a lack of concern in the major media even though it will be one of the all time closest Comets to Earth. Recently, Leonoid Elenin, the man who discovered Comet Elenin in 2010 has come under scrutiny. Some conspiracy theorists have claimed he never existed and his name is simply the initials of a very ominous phrase, “extinction level event (ELE).” If Elenin is in fact a Comet and not a red dwarf then the only real danger will be when the Earth crosses the path of the debris that follows it.
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Post by auntym on Aug 30, 2011 12:26:32 GMT -6
SO MUCH FOR DOOMSDAY: Comet Elenin (C/2010 X1), widely known for inaccurate reports of its threat to Earth, appears to be breaking apart. spaceweather.com/When this sort of thing happens..sort of like Harold's predictions or Blossoms..I dont' know whether to feel sorry for the predictors or just happy for for us LOL As in this prediction by a psychic: Psychic 9Nania has relocated to the mountains because of the coming Comet Elenin. She claims that because of the Comet’s impending proximity to Earth there will be many coming disasters. On September 26, Elenin will eclipse the Sun, and By October it should be pretty huge in the sky. There is a lot of mystery and controversy around the Comet Elenin. Some say it is a dwarf sun, others say it is the Planet Nibiru prophesized by the ancient Mayans. There seems to be a lack of concern in the major media even though it will be one of the all time closest Comets to Earth. Recently, Leonoid Elenin, the man who discovered Comet Elenin in 2010 has come under scrutiny. Some conspiracy theorists have claimed he never existed and his name is simply the initials of a very ominous phrase, “extinction level event (ELE).” If Elenin is in fact a Comet and not a red dwarf then the only real danger will be when the Earth crosses the path of the debris that follows it. shouldn't this be under the COMET ELENIN thread?theedgeofreality.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=science&action=display&thread=609
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2011 15:53:52 GMT -6
or spiritual for prophecy?
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Post by skywalker on Aug 30, 2011 15:56:47 GMT -6
That is kind of interesting that a comet that has existed for gazillions of years is breaking up now. What happens when they break up though? Do the pieces disintegrate into nothing or do they just spread out so there will be even more pieces to plow into us next year? That would not be cool. Maybe God decided to intervene and save our worthless behinds...or maybe he just wants to make Harold look even sillier than he already does.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2011 16:00:03 GMT -6
had a wicked day and decided to make psychics look nuts??? LOL
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