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Post by auntym on Jan 10, 2011 12:34:13 GMT -6
www.theyfly.com/The-Adventures-of-Billy-Meier.htmlThe Adventures of Billy Meier! PAGE 1 "The Adventures of Billy Meier!" is a comic strip type presentation of certain information in the Meier case that is especially important for humanity to know about. It is hoped that many people who may not otherwise see, or read, this information will find it more accessible in this highly visual format, leading them to a deeper level of discovery. Episode One concerns the Red Meteor, also known as the Apophis asteroid, and the extreme danger it poses to the planet and humanity in the coming decades. And, since it is the next generation that will have to certainly face the consequences of the impact of Apophis with the Earth, should an international effort not be successfully enacted, it's hoped that this will give them the needed impetus to help assure their future survival. We are starting with the English language version of the specific portion of the text that pertains to the situation. Other language versions will follow. Click here for the full transcript of the translation and here for more information about the entire matter. Also, in all the contacts from 1975 on, Meier was required to sequentially number each of the sentences spoken by each of the extraterrestrials. The main reason for this was to assure that all copies of the transcripts, in any and all languages into which they would ultimately be translated, would have the same exact information, thereby also assuring that Meier hadn't gone back and inserted accurate information after the fact, as he was certain to be accused of doing. Indeed, this mechanism has helped to show just how impeccably prophetically accurate the information is. With that in mind, we are also hoping that by publishing some of these prophetic warnings in this illustrated form that enough people will become aware of, and motivated by, it and take action to prevent those negative events that can still be prevented, or at least somewhat changed for the better. FOR PAGES 2 & 3 CLICK ON LINKwww.theyfly.com/The-Adventures-of-Billy-Meier.html
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Post by auntym on Apr 17, 2011 19:30:18 GMT -6
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Post by lois on Apr 18, 2011 11:23:53 GMT -6
Well auntym I see no replies.. I listen to the entire video. I have seen it before, but it has been a long time.. This period of Billy's life I speculate on, not the later part..
The Japanese , did make a few pointers about it.. Like the tree blowing and the craft did not swing or sway.. When he walks into the video, that ufo is way off, not like anything he could tie a ufo to.. I think his sightins all went to his head and all the people who back him just keep the lavash story going way too far. He did make a statement once back in the earlier years, about his experience as a child.. one that I have alwasy shared with him.. the teen years was no fun at night for me to go to bed.. I would do my homework down stairs just to be out of my bedroom. But with a large family one could not think in our kitchen.. He did not know what was wrong with him either only something was making contact with him. Not ufos or aliens .. he did not know what it was.. I add that to this video so I speculate it may of happen indeed.. Thanks for posting it again.. It will go on even after he is gone, folks will want to make money off of him.. This in itself makes him look bad.. or unbelieveable.
Lois
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Post by lois on Apr 18, 2011 11:38:15 GMT -6
As far as his predictions go, why not? Everyone seems to predict in these times. I would listen more to what he has to say than most..Even non ufo believes gets thoughts in their head and they feel it is a true prediction without knowing where it came from..I think many may have contact without ever experiencing ufos or aliens..
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Post by AaronFarquhar on Jan 15, 2012 4:05:53 GMT -6
This is part 1 of 12 of the Billy Meier Case, Does anyone believe this or have any new info on him??
Morgan made a comment when i posted a status on my Facebook page Australian UFO Skywatchers And Enthusiasts but did make it clear whether was a believer or not.
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Post by skywalker on Jan 15, 2012 14:59:28 GMT -6
Don't we have a thread on here somewhere about Billy Meier? I thought I remembered one but I can't find it.
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Post by auntym on Jan 15, 2012 15:09:15 GMT -6
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Post by Morgan Sierra on Jan 15, 2012 15:39:40 GMT -6
I combined the two together.
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Post by skywalker on Jan 15, 2012 15:47:36 GMT -6
I just rescued this from the old forum since it is about to be deleted. I'll see if I can find anything else interesting over there. NASA AMONG 1st TO ENDORSE BILLY MEIERS UFO PHOTOS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.tradingmarkets.com/news/stock....s -1223581.html NASA, JPL Scientists Among First to Endorse Billy Meier UFO Photos Posted on: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 Oct 12, 2010 (PRWeb.com via COMTEX) -- Recently published information from Gary Kinder's Open Letter to the UFO Community (http://theyfly.com/Scientific_Experts.html) shows that among the stellar scientists and experts who first found for the authenticity of Billy Meier's UFO photos, films and other evidence were Michael Malin, Robert Post, Marcel Vogel, David Froning and others. According to Michael Horn, U.S. media representative for the Meier case, the scientific support was not only unprecedented but posed unique problems for governmental and media agencies. "Consider that you had major scientists like Malin saying, 'I find the photographs themselves credible, they're good photographs. They appear to represent a real phenomenon,' while he naturally found it hard to accept that 'some farmer in Switzerland is on a first name basis with dozens of aliens who come to visit him...' Similar opinions were expressed by Robert Post of JPL (http://www.futures.hawaii.edu/dator/reviews/SwiftVoyagerReview.html), who said, 'From a photography standpoint, you couldn't see anything that was fake about the Meier photos. That's what struck me. And of course Marcel Vogel's conclusion that, even with all of the resources of IBM available to him, he couldn't duplicate the metal samples given to Meier by the extraterrestrials.'" Horn said that Kinder, who was a skeptic about the Meier case when he began his research, apparently foresaw the likelihood that the various scientific experts could later regret being so candid about their findings. "Threats regarding withdrawal of funding could be used to get them to distance themselves from something as controversial as a UFO case. So Kinder, who is also a lawyer, made sure that each expert read and then signed off on their statements before publication in his book, www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keyword...._sl_dh2zc95kk_b [Light Years]." Damage control from the powers that be reportedly took the form of enlisting UFO organizations, like MUFON, to ignore, suppress or actively discredit the Meier case. According to Horn, "The fact that they, and almost all other such groups, still steadfastly refuse to discuss, research or take a position on it seems to bear out that theory. And considering the overwhelming scientific corroboration (http://theyfly.com/WILL_HUMANITY_WAKE_UP.html) for Meier's information, one has to wonder why these groups waste their time chasing lights in the sky. While it's too late for the scientists to disavow their expert opinions in favor of the case, MUFON is not similarly burdened because of their own lack of any such scientific credibility."
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Post by skywalker on Jan 15, 2012 15:49:42 GMT -6
This is how Shami responded to that article. ;D
"AUNTYM ... YOU TELL UM GIRL... Love this article. we both know where we stand when it comes to Billy.. No matter what the fabricated truth seems to be.. Calling his saucers hilarious names. No one on earth knows what a ufo could resemble from our world... a doghouse I would not debunk.. lol lol.
shamira"
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Post by skywalker on Jan 15, 2012 15:59:07 GMT -6
Then I found these posts claiming that he is a fraud. (I'm posting them also just because I don't have an opinion either way.)
Billy Meier's X Wife Admits It Was All A Hoax
The Billy Meier Hoax part 1: part 2:
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Post by skywalker on Jan 15, 2012 16:06:24 GMT -6
I said before that I don't have an opinion on Billy Meier and I still don't. Some of his photos have been proven to be frauds while others have defied every attempt to disprove them. If they are also frauds the next question would be exactly how were the frauds perpetrated because nobody can seem to figure it out. I'll wait for more evidence before I make up my mind about him.
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Post by auntym on Jan 15, 2012 16:09:49 GMT -6
This is how Shami responded to that article. ;D "AUNTYM ... YOU TELL UM GIRL... Love this article. we both know where we stand when it comes to Billy.. No matter what the fabricated truth seems to be.. Calling his saucers hilarious names. No one on earth knows what a ufo could resemble from our world... a doghouse I would not debunk.. lol lol.
shamira" LOL
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Post by lois on Jan 15, 2012 20:40:07 GMT -6
Aaron. Thank you so much for the video on Billy. I have not watched the second part yet.
I did not know about this pyramid. I don't know how I ever missed it before. Was this something new added to Billy's stories or has the media known of it?
I have posted many times about Aliens taking your memories as well as putting them in.
My first head aches I had after my encounter. I told family " I believe they took my memories but more which was a mistake. It has messed me up. " Where this idea came from I do not recall. None of my thoughts that first morning did I understand where they came from.. I never for sure that day they were time.. travels. . I know this sounds far fetched.. Never the less Billy has always made statements that reach out to my mind somehow. Like he is reading , my thoughts. He at first would tell how they made contact and it scared him as he did not understand what it was. That was one thing I was so familiar with.
I will listen to the rest of it. This all could be made up stuff as well. Like adding things to his encounters. This putting memories in ones mind is an old thought for me. They take earth resources , may as well take mind memories also. Hard to know what is truth.
Steve should ask Hans about this taking memories out a person. They do not take your memory only copy it.... for Lord knows what. Like we copy tapes. I mention this to Louise years ago. I do not know if she remembers it..I'm curious what is on the next tape.. Your body they can reproduce and your memory as well. This is not as crazy as what people go watch in the movies today. I never go to theater any more. On TV later I can change the channel.
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Post by lois on Jan 15, 2012 21:09:54 GMT -6
Twenty years ago a abductee was on the Sightings program. She had went to see one of the leading investigators. Budd , Mack, Jabobs, I not sure which one now. She was regressed and said they were taking our her memories. They had put a device into her head. Made me shiver when she told this story. She was from a small town out side Champagne [sp] Illinois. The town was a four letter word . I'm trying to see it in my mind right now. She was headed home on a clear day and all of a sudden she went right into a huge storm. She found here self sitting in the car with no storm sometime later. When she arrived home her husband asked her where she had been as it was hours later. I believe she seen the ship on the road in front of her, so she pulled over on the shoulder, got out in the rain and started running through the trees when a beam hit her. That is all she remembered.. The part about they took memories from her mind was when she was regressed.
Rike had a big laughed about this, they know all about you. they do not need to do this he said. Knowing and coping something is two different things. I will try and find her. Anything which was a revelation to me down through the years I have never forgot.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2012 19:21:57 GMT -6
I have the book "light years" by Gary Kinder, and it is a good read.
Some of the credibility that Billy Meier originally had has disappeared due to some of the "crowd" he hangs with. And Billy has been found to try and "make his case" more real by doing some odd things that of course ruin his credibility also.
I always wondered about the ex-wife. I believe the book mentioned talks about her attempt to kill herself in the middle of Gary Kinders' (and others) investigations.
I do want to watch the video provided by Aaron, and the links by skywalker. Whatever they say or don't say about this guy, my mind was kind of made up years ago, and I tend to stay away from all the "hoopla" that has been going on since.
The simple fact that this man has not been "put away", or changed drastically, or required by someone to be forced to take medication, tells me that he still has people wondering.. . .
I wonder, if there are other people that have experiences similar to Mr. Meier, and all his publicity, good and bad, are their reason for keeping to themselves.
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Post by AaronFarquhar on Jan 17, 2012 5:21:03 GMT -6
Lois, It was my pleasure.
It is a very interesting case, some of his claims make me sit back and think wow, his guy is a bit fruity, But i think how the whole UFO subject seems to some people and just goes to show that no matter how crazy something seems today, It does not mean its not real. But i think im in the same book as Skywalker, Its hard to sit back and say that I do believe or i dont believe, When it comes down to it, Some things i believe but others i have to think twice about.
And thanks for relocating my thread, I went into Search and typed in Billy Meier to see if there was already a thread but nothing came up so i went ahead.
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Post by skywalker on Jan 17, 2012 8:47:45 GMT -6
I couldn't find it when I did a search for it either. I knew we had one on here somewhere but it didn't show up. Auntym finally found it. I'm not sure why it didn't show up in the search. Maybe I spelled it wrong or something.
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Post by skywalker on Jan 17, 2012 8:54:23 GMT -6
It seems that Meier's habit of exaggerating some of his claims has caused him to lose a lot of credibility, but I know there are a lot of other ufologists who do the same thing. Even Budd Hopkins and Stanton Friedman have been known to try to "stack the deck" every now and then.I suppose it would help if UFO researchers would be a little more honest instead of trying to sensationalize everything. Maybe because they are surrounded by so many people who make outrageous claims and perpetrate hoaxes that they think they need to exaggerate in order to get noticed...otherwise people would be just like, "yeah, whatever."
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Post by paulette on Jan 17, 2012 11:54:51 GMT -6
I read the interview under the film clip claiming that his films were a hoax and the wife was mentioned and also that she had passed a lie detector test but NOT what she said, other than, it was a hoax. I think of the mess with Budd Hopkins and his ex wife and her attempts to discredit him. Unless the wife was pulling on the string that made the models move, how would she know - hoax or not (or watched him). If she did, did she say so in detail - how he did it? The guy in Encounters of the Third Kind was making models out of mashed potatoes and later mud. I could imagine someone attempting to make a model of what he or she saw. The film maker debunker said the models were probably on stiff wires. Surely someone by now would have analyzed the film and seen the pixels of said wires. Or not.
Oh...and the wife agreed to have children named unusual names like Atlantis? (I think that's what the interview beneath the posted clip said). She must have gone along with this for awhile...
PS. The sounds he recorded and the sounds that are on the thread about sounds - are they similar? If something has to materialize in the thickness of air then there must be a sound accompanying it. Ditto dematerializing - should have the same effect as lightening - when the bolt dissapates its charge and the air rushes into the gap one gets a thunder clap.
Or something else entirely different.
I do believe that someone can start with a genuine experience and then feel or actually be pressured to continue reporting stuff. It sounded like Billy was damaged by his interactions with others such that he was hiding behind trees and such when a newcomer came along.
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Post by AaronFarquhar on Jan 18, 2012 2:23:44 GMT -6
A story i read a while ago about Billy Meier said that he was some what of a pathological liar, Meaning he, as Skywalker said, Seems to exaggerate things from time to time but when he gets in the habit of this, he continues to do it more and more and then actually starts to believe his own Lies. I think a few people have done this, Its like there imagination runs away a bit more and they start to play it out in there head and start describing details and therefore see it all and believe that it actually happened.
So i think that when some people tell about there experiences or sightings they seem like they are not lying and are actually genuine, But this comes down to whether they actually believe there own Lies. I have heard about Psychologists who can watch peoples faces and if they Blink heaps it means they are nervous and probably lying and things like this.
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Post by lois on Jan 18, 2012 12:22:17 GMT -6
I have forgotten Billy's childhood, it has been printed many times. Anyone here know a link?
The more this goes on it is ridiculous to believe what he says. The books and how he has been in the media so much tells. Money talks!!
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Post by AaronFarquhar on Jan 19, 2012 2:52:03 GMT -6
Lois, Here is just one paragraph of his early days, This was just a snippet out of Wikipedia. Closest thing i could find to his childhood. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_MeierA farmer born in the town of Bülach in the Swiss Lowlands, Eduard "Billy" Meier's claimed his first extraterrestrial contacts occurred in 1942 at the age of five with an elderly extraterrestrial human man named Sfath.[1] Contacts with Sfath lasted until 1953. From 1953 to 1964, Meier's contacts continued with an extraterrestrial human woman named Asket.[2] Meier says that after an eleven year break, contacts resumed again (beginning on January 28, 1975) with an extraterrestrial human woman named Semjase[3] the granddaughter of Sfath.
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Post by lois on Jan 19, 2012 14:42:10 GMT -6
Aaron , Thank you for the link.. I did not know his woman visit was relative to past visitors.
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Post by AaronFarquhar on Jan 20, 2012 4:23:49 GMT -6
Lois, Hmm when i read about him i thought there was Sfath and then Asket, i do not remember reading about another woman.
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Post by auntym on Aug 12, 2012 12:37:44 GMT -6
ART BELL Classic Show Dreamland - The Billy Meier Story with Randolf Winters [/color]
Published on Aug 7, 2012 by Worldconspiraciestod
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Post by plutronus on Aug 13, 2012 2:51:25 GMT -6
ART BELL Classic Show Dreamland - The Billy Meier Story with Randolf Winters [/color] Published on Aug 7, 2012 by Worldconspiraciestod[/quote] AuntyM,
I sure do miss the old Art Bell Show and their RealAudio past-show archive. Thanks for sharing this one, I had not heard this show before. Lots of interesting info, especially the matter re; the '5th band' idea. I've seen other information which seems to parallel that idea, but which pre-dated the show's disclosure. Also, when I resonating with the Grey Hybrid who was teaching me Human to Alien relationship information, there was information regarding the fifth time-line which also seems to following that same style notion. <s> Then there is the Seals in the 'Way of the Treasuries', a flat Tree-Of-Life, which was delineated by Luria from the Sefer Yetzirah, which also (predates all ET information thus far disclosed, by about ~1200 years as time flies), which also, seems to follow the fifth-band notion of physicality. But I also found the descriptions of the short stature Technician-Class Reptilians fascinating. I have seen those type Reptilians up close. They are mean and nasty, they eat everything that has red meat, including us. I had not heard that story before.
Anyway, thanks for sharing the link.
plutronus
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