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Post by satansrini on Nov 4, 2011 12:35:28 GMT -6
I had this suspicion that may be there is a flow of information between the secret govt. projects like may be roswell or serpo or things like that to hollywood which makes sci-fi movies.
Now I am not saying this is deliberate leaks but what if someone like Speilberg gets his ideas from the Govt. Realities?
Ofcourse, I am not trying to undermine the creative genius of that person. I can make a great painting of I am a great painter but - I would need a canvas, colours and a brush isn't it?
Regards, Srinivas
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Post by skywalker on Nov 4, 2011 19:10:00 GMT -6
I would say no simply because I don't have much faith in the government to actually know more than Hollywood does. If anything it is probably the movies that give the government their ideas. When the government wants to know how to do something they call Spielberg....and then they still screw it up.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2011 21:14:31 GMT -6
I think "Hollywood" is, was, and has been influencing our government for many years. ;D
There's a lot of money there and if you pay attention to the "credits" there's a lot of "clicks" besides Spielburg and his friends.
Entertainment and politics go hand-in hand. Whether its booze, or music, or movies....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2011 21:23:52 GMT -6
ugh.
Does life imitate art?
Does art imitate life?
"Ofcourse, I am not trying to undermine the creative genius of that person." (quote from above)
I wish more people thought this way, Srinivas!
Just think, when the show "ancient aliens" goes on and on about the pictures and statues, etc. of the airplanes that look like ours, do they ever think that those people had "visions"? "Premonitions?" Couldn't we give them credit for creative genius???
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Post by lois on Nov 7, 2011 21:45:20 GMT -6
Starwars had a bigfoot in it. Whos idea was that.. I guess I believe they came from ufos and no changing my mind. I had a good laugh the first time I seen starwars which was not until it was shown on TV..Hollywood gets things right in advance, but it is usually the writer or the producer which has the idea.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2011 22:55:18 GMT -6
I don't believe there is but I do thing some writers are very psychic and the ideas they get are more than invention.
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Post by randy on May 14, 2012 0:15:47 GMT -6
George Lukas I believe has his roots in Marin county where the grey base is located that i talk about. Marin has film related special effects companies. I have reported on a huge UFO that I saw at the marin co civic center. A film was made about aliens there. I have mention that grey influence probably extends into SF. A film was made about aliens in the govt of SF andan underground base I have mentioned greys abducting and controlling children in Marin The x files had an episode of killer children in Marin county Yes there is alien over lap into the film industry
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2012 1:03:19 GMT -6
I don't believe the 'government' has a connection to hollywood..in fact I think the government we are aware of is relatively igannant of UFO activity ..as much in the dark as we are. The government BEHIND the government could be a very different story and since they want to remain 'invisible' I don't think they would be courting the film industry. I think men like Lucas and Roddenberry and others..are just incredibly ahead of their time as are writers like Heinlein and Zelazny and many many more. I 'see' alien worlds in my mind all of the time.. crystalline worlds..odd rock formations and plants and critters..just my imagination flowing along..it's how I amuse myself if I'm bored and I've done that since I was young. Am I seeing things I used to know? Am I seeing things I've seen and lived through? Who knows..maybe all science fiction writers are really just 'remembering'. I'd love to think so because a Federation of planets sounds pretty nice. ;D
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Post by paulette on May 14, 2012 9:37:05 GMT -6
Writers (and movies are made from stories usually written and published and then simplified for the wide screen) operate in that gray zone of what is and what could be. Obviously, some people can "see" far into the future and describe things that won't be physically invented for decades or longer. The fact that sci-fi has as its basis that there are other intelligences suggests to me that there ARE other intelligences. It doesn't matter whether there are actually canals on Mars. Exactly where and when is always hard to pin down when making predictions. What is somewhat easier to catch.
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Post by randy on May 14, 2012 22:59:16 GMT -6
My views on govt and the grey base are well known i think. Only a very tight group of people would be in the know the career CIA and Military types. Obama is just passing through and would not really need to know. Our deepest secrets are held in a small group. Likely having a working Ultra code machine in WWII was a tightly held secret. I read enough of my fathers secret police only files to know that what most people think they know of the world is pure fantasy to keep them happy. It has nothing to do with reality Low key wars are being fought on American soil that have been kept from the public. As a result some of the public becomes collateral damage some times but that is acceptable it seems. I have at times covered other subjects with people and they are so far mislead as to reality That I have given up trying to tell them reality mention some words or phrases and they mindlessly snap into the approved reaction and mouth the same old points they have been trained to say. Its like you know what to think of a book you have never read. You can criticize the book but no you have not read if for yourself. UFOs are a classic case in point. Most people laugh at the whole subject but they have no knowledge of it either from first hand or from reading. They react as they have been trained to react with out thinking. As a side issue want to know the name of the shooter on the grassy knoll in Dallas?
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2012 0:46:54 GMT -6
Wouldn't do me any good to know..or President Kennedy.
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Post by randy on May 20, 2012 11:27:46 GMT -6
Problem is not whst you know but who you are when you say it. being an unknown it is easy to be ignored regardless of what you may know. being aware of my surroundings and being in the right place at the right time I have picked up some great information on some important subjects yet the powers that be really dont want to know as then they have to do something about it. While working with street people on one job I had I had some great information at times and helped capture one of the FBIs top ten most wanted. On the other hand good information I had on crime was simply ignored at times. Better stick to UFOs and stay out of some areas. It occurred to me that the sci fi films dealing with aliens in SF city govt and aliens at the Marin co civic center, which I believe may be fact, might have the same writers Both were low budget films and did not go far. People what reported grey things on the roof of the Marin civic center but these have been called great owls by the powers that be and stay away from them please. Great owls so far south? could be greys. recall both I and my sister saw huge UFOs hovering over hwy 101 there of separate occasions That aliens would extend their influence to SF city govt over time is logical. then on to state govt and on to DC. Creating films on these subjects is interesting as the writers maybe trying to produce a form of black propaganda or they may have no other way of expressing what they know to be true to the public. the idea of black propaganda which by the way has nothing to do with race but means a form of discrediting propaganda coming from you but represented as coming from the enemy is an old trick. Anyone who talks about aliens in SF city govt could be laughed at as having seen the low budget movie on that which included underground tunnels in which the aliens lived.
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Post by randy on May 20, 2012 11:32:01 GMT -6
post script to the above posting. Why did the movie deal with SF and not LA or new york for example? Interesting choice of cities
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Post by randy on May 27, 2012 12:24:33 GMT -6
Movies are a form of propaganda at times and UFO movies have the power to influence millions of people and the power to shape their ideas on aliens for good or bad. Movies often change history to fit the current politics of the time in which they are made. As a case in point Shindlers List is not the real way things happened it an altered version of history to reflect Clintons antigun views. In reality Shindler bougth guns on the black market and armed his people well for self defence When they came to arrest them they faced numerous machine guns pointed at them. Shindlers speech was simple. Why die for a lost cause? many people believe the movie version of things. UfO movies can cause people to like aliens as in ET or to hate them as in war of the worlds type movies. Movies are the greatest shaper of public thought there is.
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