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Post by auntym on Dec 13, 2011 18:16:36 GMT -6
www.ufostalker.com/event/33999Eye Contact With Alien, Attempted Abduction, Physical ContactCase Number: 33999 Log Number: US-12132011-0002 Submitted Date: 2011-12-13 02:18 GMT Event Date: 1994-04-15 00:00 GMT Status: Submitted City: Casco Region: Maine Country: US Longitude: -70.5227778 Latitude: 44.0066667 Shape: Unknown Duration: 00:05:00 Description: When I was a child I suffered from extreme night terrors. I thought there was something taking me in the night. I would awake to blinding light and then I'd wake a second time, as if I were having a dream inside a dream. These terrors kept on for most of my childhood. It wouldn't happen every night, but once or twice a month. My family moved north when I was 8, after years of brutal nightmares the new environment seemed to calm my mind. This didn't last long though. More frequently I felt as I I were being taken by the white lights. I pleaded with my parents to believe me but they didn't. They had no answers either. One of the nights I woke before the white lights. I was laying in my bunk bed, my brother on bottom and I m top. I was looking at the glow in the dak stars I had on my ceiling when, in an instant I was blinded by this white light. I felt fear come over me and I couldn't scream for help. I helplessly watched my door creek open. There it was. The night person I was dreamin about. It didn't look at me, it looked around for a second and walked toward the bunk beds. I remember trying to scream but I couldn't. I couldn't breathe or move. It walked up besides he bunk beds, inspecting my brother. I tried to scream and got nothing. It looked up at me with snap of its head. Almost like it was surprised I was looking at it. As if I startled it. It stretched it's hand out to my face as if to grab me. I fought my fear and managed to ball up a fist and try to hit it. I did, but barely. I tapped it, just barely touching it. It recoiled its hand and sidestepped away, out the door. In the morning I told my family. They laughed and said I have new friends. I kept this to myself until now. My family can back up my story. Only 3 people outside my family know this. I'll take a lie detector any day. Media: None
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2011 21:20:54 GMT -6
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Post by skywalker on Dec 13, 2011 22:12:19 GMT -6
I recently read another report very similar to that one. Some guy said that he woke up one night to see a bunch of aliens sticking a needle in his brother's arm (they were in bunk beds also). Then when the aliens were about to do it to him he moaned a little with fright and they all suddenly looked surprised and immediately left.
I wonder if the same guy wrote it because they sounded very similar? I think it was reported on the UFOstalker thingy just recently.
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Post by lois on Feb 10, 2012 0:26:53 GMT -6
I do not recall aliens in my room at anytime, but a few strange things did happen. Like someone was holding my hand in the dark, then it was morning. It happened many times for about a year maybe. That was very scary. I guess not knowing who it was may of been worse. I do not care to know today..
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Post by paulette on Feb 11, 2012 12:15:36 GMT -6
There is always a minority of people who are not suseptible to being hypnotized. I would imagine that is true of people who are entranced so that they can be done to in whatever fashion.
I know that I am hypnotizable (if that's an adjective). I also know that when I was first hypnotized that a very early unexpected UFO memory fragment immediate presented itself. I would say scientifically that that is because it was a "state dependent" memory. That means - one remembers when one is in the same mental state of arousal (central nervous system and emotional in this case). I remember my dreams from the night before when I lie down and start to drift off. So immediately bringing up a UFO memory of the inside of a ship seems high coincidence to me - especially when the point of the workshop was relaxation, not memory retreival.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2012 18:19:21 GMT -6
I love your insights, paulette. I read somewhere, not like I heard someone preach on this subject, that one of the things "christians" should NOT do, is get hypnotized. I'm actively wondering, why not? Is it just because we will "see" and know/remember things that will frighten us? That no one can explain? Anymore, that's not "reason" enough to do nothing. These things are happening around us without our "bidding" them come.
I will not apologize for seemingly to bring up my religion. Anyone who has ever read the Bible KNOWS that it addresses every single issue known to man. It can be taken literally as a guide book for how to deal with situations and events that happen daily on this earth. So why do I feel like someone purposely left out a HUGE CHUNK of meaningful information? I know this comes up often with me, and I won't apologize for that either. When people say that "religion" is controlling, they are talking about the people who withhold information, IMO. "They" (priests, elders, whatever) say, "let's just get the people to come to us", and you can go through history from there. We got sidetracked, and maybe that worked for a few hundred years or so. But,. . ."theyyyyyyyrrrrrrreeee baaaaaackkkk".
This person talking about their childhood. Whoever they are. For some reason, their childhood is again important, now. I refuse to believe that this is boredom or nostalgia. We are looking to our pasts because quite suddenly we are trying to figure out the future and something is amiss. This is only an idea, of course, and I don't mean to sound frantic. I'm still living my day to day life, looking forward to things like celebrating my moms birthday with family tomorrow, but I'm imagining how this person from ufostalker FEELS. Maybe this stuff has never stopped for them. Maybe it did, but something "new" happened. Maybe, they finally feel like they can talk about this stuff because other people are coming forward with experiences, and the internet is making us all "painfully" aware.
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Post by randy on Mar 20, 2012 23:54:31 GMT -6
From experience never look a grey in the eyes. It is how they invade your brain and take you over. You can look at their shoulders safely and fight them that way but nover look them in the eye or your lost
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Post by paulette on Mar 21, 2012 9:23:55 GMT -6
Maybe everyone who has had actual contact knows that somehow and that's why the eyes are the only thing that is remembered: deer eyes, owl eyes and I was always creeped out by the 50's velvet painting of children or dogs with big black eyes. I couldn't imagine how someone could have that on the wall where they would see it all the time...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2012 22:04:19 GMT -6
From experience never look a grey in the eyes. It is how they invade your brain and take you over. You can look at their shoulders safely and fight them that way but nover look them in the eye or your lost Ill have to remember that next time,,,,,if there is a next time
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2012 23:03:05 GMT -6
~squirms uncomfortably~
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2012 13:53:57 GMT -6
Hypnosis (as this was told to me) allows the mind to be vulnerable to psychic (I suppose a priest would say demonic) possession. Our 'safeguards' are down during hypnosis and the same can be said for a self induced 'trance' or deep meditation. Funny that, because it's at that time that we are also particularly able to receive angelic messages or council from spirit or visions. I am a Christian..that is to say I believe Christ walked the earth as God's son. But according to parts of the bible I'd be burned at some stake for the psychic 'gifts' I have. I just don't dwell on it much, keep up my steady correspondence with God and figure that it wasn't safe to drink water in those days so people might have been writing on wine and scribing a bit loosely. There have been vast language shifts and differences of opinion even among the most holy so I don't take it so literally as I might. Personal opinion... I think we're all created to be as we are, that there are no coincidences and that the more we look..the more we see so don't look if you are afraid of altering your opinions ;D The bible has it's contradictions also: On one hand fortune tellers or soothsayers were called in from time to time and on the other hand 'do not suffer a witch to live'. Some verses make it clear that visions are from God..others tell you to beware of evil spirits giving visions. Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. Daniel answered the king and said, “No wise men, enchanters, magicians, or astrologers can show to the king the mystery that the king has asked, but there is a God in heaven who reveals mysteries, and he has made known to King Nebuchadnezzar what will be in the latter days. Your dream and the visions of your head as you lay in bed are these:
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Post by lois on Mar 22, 2012 14:27:33 GMT -6
An alien froze my Mother in bed, she could not wake up my Dad. This was back in the early 30s. She told us it was a angel or something with large black eyes. They have been doing this for a very long time and leaving people aware of it.
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Post by sunbow on Apr 7, 2012 18:35:38 GMT -6
They have been doing this as long as there has been a humanity. I recently took a course to become a Certified Hypnotist. Extremely interesting. So much that I learned is relevant to this phenomena. First of all, ever watch TV? If you have said yes, you have been hypnotized. There are many levels of depth to the hypnotic trance. Like any western soft science, there are many different view points and opinions. A few things that struck me in the lessons, and my teacher has been through multiple courses, but is not a PHD or a therapist. "All a capable hypnotist requires is for you to look into their eyes" - There was a man in Italy who went to a bank teller, said look in my eyes, then the next thing she remembers is missing time and then she counts her money and is missing thousands. He started with cashiers in stores. Unfortunately the bank had cameras. "The subconscious is capable of activities like driving a car, perfectly safely, without the conscious mind being present." "By watching the flow of attention, a hypnotist can be in a group of people, and at the right moment, disappear, then re-appear, without magic or trickery. If you have never seen this, try counting basketballs viscog.beckman.illinois.edu/grafs/demos/15.html "A hypnotist can never make a person act contrary to their true nature. The subconscious is a guardian. It is the conscious mind that directs us in actions that are opposed to our true nature." So, are we evolved to have hypnotic trance as part of our nature as an evolutionary advantage or because those who have been guiding our evolution find it so useful in handling us? www.theinvisiblegorilla.com/videos.html
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Post by skywalker on Apr 7, 2012 20:25:20 GMT -6
That is an interesting question, Sunbow. What purpose does hypnosis serve? People generally evolve and pass along traits that are beneficial to them so what possible benefit could there be in being hypnotizable? That is not something that you would normally see in nature.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2012 21:00:24 GMT -6
When I have sleep-walked a lot of people have told me the things I have done. Interestingly, when I am in a sleep-walking state I respond to people as though I were in a hypnotic trance. I answer questions bluntly and truthfully (this can be a bad thing sometimes depending on what someone asks me... ) and I am also extremely susceptible to suggestions... the human mind is a very interesting contraption...
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Post by sunbow on Apr 8, 2012 12:40:46 GMT -6
Sleepwalking is a hypnotic state, where the subconscious mind is in front and the conscious mind stays in the background. Again, what is the evolutionary advantage of this trait or is it a side effect where a person slips into a hypnotic trance due to things that have occurred in the past.
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Post by paulette on Apr 8, 2012 13:26:26 GMT -6
That cartoon clip was brilliant Lorelei!!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2012 14:05:34 GMT -6
That cartoon clip was brilliant Lorelei!!! Thanks Paulette. That was one of my favorite cartoon movies when I was growing up... If it's set to music, I will remember it forever and ever and ever. If it's not musical, I'll instantly forget it... (Still remembers songs she learned in kindergarten word for word...) My brain is weird.
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Post by ufo4peace on May 22, 2012 8:52:25 GMT -6
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Post by spotless38 on May 22, 2012 11:34:57 GMT -6
This is still primitive . The Aliens can acess the brain instancely faster than the fastest computer can . They haven't the time to play around in a abduction . Don't forget that they are more advanced than we are
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Post by ufo4peace on May 23, 2012 3:39:24 GMT -6
Disagree. From reading actual abduction cases there is reaction time. The head and the eyes are the access points to gain control over a subject. There is a stalking phase and an acquisition phase. Usually the leader stays on board the craft.
I also believe those in the know in government know about abductions and there are ways to defend people but they are allowing it to happen. Could be complicity.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2012 13:12:52 GMT -6
Disagree. From reading actual abduction cases there is reaction time. The head and the eyes are the access points to gain control over a subject. There is a stalking phase and an acquisition phase. Usually the leader stays on board the craft. I also believe those in the know in government know about abductions and there are ways to defend people but they are allowing it to happen. Could be complicity. I would like to hear about these ufo4peace . Could you start a thread ? In my personal experience they already had me before I could react. Im not sure at which point the initial phase began. For some reason I became very sleepy and couldn't fight it ; I tried. After laying down, my ex had come home in between that time while I was out. She said she saw me on the couch sleeping and left me alone and went to bed. This in itself was odd because I always stayed awake til she got home. There was no reason for me to become suddenly tired like that. I felt like I was going to pass out. The next thing I know, it's as if a presence had come into the house and I knew it but I couldn't react. It seems as if I was hit by an energy charge of some sort which I barely recall. I then clearly recall being levitated. This is a very odd feeling of floating in the air with nothing touching me. I was then sat upright and struggled to come to which I was finally able to open my eyes and see these things. I think you probably know the rest. In other words,,,, they already had me before I could react.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2012 13:43:02 GMT -6
Touched's story is extremely similar to mine- if you care UFO4peace which I'm sure you don't care about what a "bimbo" has to say.
When he first posted his story on this forum- he posted it to me because he had read my story and it was simply uncanny the similarities between our experiences... I also fell asleep on the sofa in the living room which was something I had never done before- and is not something I have ever done since as a result.
I was not sleepy, I was not intending to fall asleep, I simply recall being wide awake and laying down watching TV with my parents- then all of a sudden without any warning my eyes were closed and I was groggy and confused. I then was eventually able to open my eyes with a considerable amount of effort and I saw the grays standing in front of me in the living room. My experience occurred in 1993 when I was 8 years old.
The grays I saw also exhibited the exact same sort of behavior as the ones Touched saw. They were standing around having a "conversation" of sorts but it was not audible oral communication- it appeared to be gestures and eye contact only... just like what Touched remembers seeing.
Then, one of them came over to me, just like one of them came over to him, got right up in my face, and his face, and stared at me, and him. The one who got up in my face moved his finger up towards my forehead and touched me dead center of my forehead which caused my entire body to shut off- my eyes immediately closed and every muscle in my paralyzed tense terrified body relaxed instantly at the exact moment he touched my forehead. I heard a male voice in my head and it said, "Everything is going to be alright. You are going to go to sleep now- and when you wake up this will alllll seem like a dream." My next conscious memory is of being in my bed in my bedroom which I shared with my sister confused, disoriented and terrified.
Touched was also touched in a similar manner to me, in around the same area but his was right about where the bridge of his nose was and he experienced pain and a crunching noise when I did not. He also experienced mind manipulation after he was touched by the entity...
It's simply uncanny... ~hugz Touched~
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Post by ufo4peace on May 23, 2012 22:15:51 GMT -6
Touched's story is extremely similar to mine- if you care UFO4peace which I'm sure you don't care about what a "bimbo" has to say. A lot of alien abduction stories are similar. Missing time, Watching & Staring as you describe.
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Post by ufo4peace on May 23, 2012 22:32:04 GMT -6
I would like to hear about these ufo4peace . Could you start a thread ? In my personal experience they already had me before I could react. Im not sure at which point the initial phase began. For some reason I became very sleepy and couldn't fight it ; I tried. There's lots of cases where the abductee observes the UFO or occupants approach them before becoming under their control. Classic examples would be Betty & Barney Hill, The Allagash Abductions. In both these famous cases the abductees observed the UFO (during the stalking phase) and felt fear/panic and knew something was wrong. More examples: The classic bedroom abduction may be common but seems to be an alien abduction stereotype. If you think about it a person is vulnerable when he/she is unconscious .
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2012 0:34:40 GMT -6
I'm sure to the person having it..each encounter is a bit different.
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Post by randy on May 24, 2012 10:11:05 GMT -6
Capture is a simple process. During my first visit to the base I talk about during daytime where I walked to the base just over the hill top was a ratty old house since torn down and replaced by a newer house. Arriving at the house I met PB who lived two houses down from me and two other boys who laughed at me when I asked why I was "here" We sat in a small shed on benches that was open at both ends and I had no idea really what was going on but followed their lead. I heard a hissing sound and held my breath. Looking up I saw a hose in the roof of the shed with a red weight on the end of it. the other kids passed out and I thought of running but took a breath to smell the air which was a mistake. I passed out instantly. I had been told that we had to sit in the shed to wait for John to come and get us. John was the human type to lead the team of 4 boys that eventually was formed of which I and PB were part. some how I had been following a post hypnotic type suggestion to go to the ratty old house but the gas part was applied technology not anything mysterious. The other two boys besides myself and PB were odd in that they looked like boys but were really much older in age, like small men passing for kids. Capture involves gassing people to soften them up then eye contact to take control.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2012 10:37:32 GMT -6
I'm not sure that's the case with all abductions Randy. My first memories are just being on a table unable to move with my friend screaming so there may have been a 'hypnotic' capture. I don't remember that at all nor how they managed to contain our horses and I don't think I even want to know. They're mentally powerful but only to a point. Their mental 'whammy' wasn't working on my friend and she's about as psychic as a brick. I could feel horrible pressure building in my head and figured out that the less I struggled the less it hurt but I was fighting because of her. For people who aren't responding they have other means hence the ice cold instrument against my neck and then what seemed a twilight hazy dream state. Another reason I think they are attracted to 'psychic' people..we're closer to their wavelength and can be controlled more easily. Again..there are dozens of other explanations to abductions besides the ones we accept. Everything about them could be 'planted' information..and I think keeping an open mind is the best thing we can do. I know what I THINK happened..I know what I THINK I remember..but it may not have happened that way at all. If they are that clever and mentally controlling..then all of my memories could be false. I don't believe that they were but I'd prefer that they were
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2012 17:46:32 GMT -6
~hugz Jo~
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Post by randy on May 31, 2012 0:45:38 GMT -6
greys are very dominant how ever i found a way to keep them out of my brain which at least worked for a short time. I would imagine a red brick wall behind which I placed all my thoughts. It became a test of will power to keep the wall up and the greys did not like it one bit. they literally tried to tear the wall down brick by brick. and i would replace the bricks. the slow steady bit by bit approach is the way greya do things for some reason. When as a kid I was using the learning screens and was blowing up the city the city would slowly rebuild its self and I would mentally blow it up again it was again a test of will power to keep the city rubble. humans can fight greys but it takes time to develop the mental discipline to be able to do it. you can keep them out of your brain at least for a while but you are too busy to do anything else. also when I was surrounded as a kid by 6 grey soldiers all trying to enter my mind and take me over I resolved not to play that game and charged my way out of the circle ignoring them. never look them in the eye it is too dangerous
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