NOBEL PRIZE WINNER SPEAKS ABOUT ALIEN ABDUCTION

[auntym]

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Kary Mullis: DNA, LSD and Alien Abductions

Posted by Greg at 12:47, 29 Jan 2009

In 1993, biochemist Kary Mullis won the Nobel Prize for Chemistry for his development of the Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR), a process that allows the amplification of specific DNA sequences. Since then, though, he has often played the enfant terrible to his once-adoring scientific 'parent'. In the year following his Nobel Prize, he revealed that during his 20s he taken "plenty of LSD", and considered it "much more important than any courses I ever took". In fact, in a curious echo of another DNA pioneer - Francis Crick - Mullis is said to have told Dr Albert Hofmann that "LSD had helped him develop the polymerase chain reaction that helps amplify specific DNA sequences."

Mullis has sparked further controversy with his questioning of the 'conventional wisdom' concerning HIV-AIDS and Anthropogenic Global Warming. To be sure, Mullis has a dislike of paradigm enforcement in the halls of science, and in particular the current system of grants-based science. In his words, "Science is being practiced by people who are dependent on being paid for what they are going to find out," and not for what they have actually discovered.

Now, if all that wasn't enough, here's one more fascinating thing about Mullis. He's had an alien abduction experience. Well, a glowing raccoon experience, but pretty much the same thing, as you'll see. In his autobiography Dancing in the Mind Field (Amazon US and UK), Mullis relates how he drove from Berkeley out to his cabin late one night:

" ...I got there just around midnight. I had driven up alone, and I had passed the functional sobriety test - I had made it through the mountains.

I turned on the kitchen lights, put my bags of groceries on the floor, and grabbed a heavy, black flashlight. I was headed to the john, which was about fifty feet west of the cabin, down a hill. Some people thought it was a little eerie at night, but I didn't - I liked the night. I liked sitting in the dark on the custom carved redwood seat. I liked the sound of owls in the valley. But that night, I never made it to the seat.

The path down to the john heads west and then takes a sharp turn to the north after a few earthen steps. Then it runs level for about twenty feet. I walked down the steps, turned right, and then at the far end of the path, under a fir tree, there was something glowing. I pointed my flashlight at it anyhow. It only made it whiter where the beam landed. It seemed to be a raccoon. I wasn't frightened. Later, I wondered if it could have been a hologram, projected from God knows where.

The raccoon spoke. "Good evening, doctor," it said. I said something back, I don't remember what, probably, "Hello."

The next thing I remember, it was early morning. I was walking along a road uphill from my house. What went through my head as I walked down toward my house was, "What the hell am I doing here?" I had no memory of the night before."

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[Steve]

Thanks AuntyM, I have mentioned Kary Mullis in talks.

"Mullis has a dislike of paradigm enforcement in the halls of science, and in particular the current system of grants-based science. In his words, "Science is being practiced by people who are dependent on being paid for what they are going to find out," and not for what they have actually discovered."

There never has been a more true statement!

Love this guy. His alleged abduction experience occurred at his weekend getaway cabin in Anderson & Apple Valleys in Mendocino Co. north of San Francisco along HWY 128, between Cloverdale, Boonville, and Albion on that rustic beautiful area of the California coast.

Steve

[paulette]

I am very grateful for this posting, in which a brilliant person and obviously competant scientist acknowledges that LSD was an all-important part of his education. I have always felt a little side-lined even here by openly admitting that a mind altering substance played a part in who I am and what happened to me.

One of the tests that I used to see how altered I was was to look at hands. At first (15 minutes in) they looked like mud - opaque and somewhat unpleasant. I looked just like someone made of clay, biblically speaking. Then the next phase - I could see the whirling bits that I was composed off - and also the spaces between the whirling bits. This was incredibly beautiful and I often would hold my hand up to another living being and acknowledge that we were kin and made of the same bits and only our song or harmonics determined that I was a human and the other was a tree or a cat. Finally in way out there place, I could see the life energy (call it Kirlian) between the branches or the fingers or whatever. Trees looked like a coral reef at night - when all of the subtle waving creatures are exposed. I've seen pictures that other people have drawn in altered states when communing with a tree and they are roughly identical to mine. From that I deduced that this is what trees really are. Their energy doesn't stop at the tip of branch any more than ours does at the tip of our fingers.

I will also add that the Qabalah (Hermetic/ancient Arabian and later Jewish mysteries) has a Tree of Life and the various points on the tree (which correspond to Tarot cards) are different colors. Below the void the colors are predicable colors - blue, red, yellow, orange, green, purple...

Above the void, while things are still things and with gender polarity, the colors are irridescent glowing colors. Think abalone shell for blue. Think red fire opal for red. Above this is white which is shining through everything and not to be experienced for very long. These colors were talked about in the Dead Sea Scrolls. You may experience them after meditating actively like the Tibetan monks do. But you don't see them while drinking beers.

I experienced the beginning of this quest when I was feeling very alienated (and the alienation came first) - too smart, too different, too unwilling to say what was expected. I paid for those qualities. I lost boyfriends when I outdid them (without really trying). I had teachers downgrade papers that were to the topic but not what they wanted (a substancial amount of my profs gave me great grades, when the two varieties of grades were averaged, I gradded with a B+ grade point.)

I knew that Leary had been a doctor but assumed he wandered off the trail. I'm sure a lot of academics think that Mullis did as well. But there's that Nobel Prize to factor in...?

Steve, I'm glad you love this guy and a glowing racoon who addresses him as doctor. The fact that Mullis said Hello instead of oh-my-god-I've-got-to-get-my-gun or I-must-be-crazy-I-need-Thorazine is probably because of his previous training.

[Steve]

www.ufodigest.com/article/grey-extraterrestrials

I particularly enjoy posting about Dr. Mullis because it always freaks out the debunking trolls at 'that other website'.

When you have become a well respected Nobel Laureate, and 'have arrived', preferring to enjoy surfing now, you can 'tell it like it is' as far as anything scientific or even as far as alien abductions are concerned. He has reached an enviable position of being free of 'grant based science'.

If he was actually abducted as he cliams - in my own opinion it was obviously because the Grays wanted to know about his work which allows the amplification of specific DNA sequences too.

"use Thermophilus aquaticus (Taq) DNA polymerase to amplify segments of DNA. The Taq polymerase was heat resistant and would only need to be added once, thus making the technique dramatically more affordable and subject to automation. This has created revolutions in biochemistry, molecular biology, genetics, medicine and forensics."

As far out as I know this appears, but if the Grays do seem to display advanced medical knowledge of ourselves (so reports suggest), despite this, they seem to keep making repeat visits. Advanced as they are, any common sense might consider the possibility there is no substitute for 'local' biological information. Having probably 'downloaded' his knowledge from this gentleman's brilliant noggin in 1985. Addressing him as 'Doctor' no less suggests they were impressed.

Since any alien genetic agenda theoretically would be linked to human biology, it is not inconceivable 'their' genetic work, for better or worse - has perhaps made a breakthrough too.

Steve



The Glowing Raccoon

The following is evidence that the Greys are accelerating our biotechnological knowledge, but cases like this also show how this most prominent species of Grey employs so many of the attributes of the predator, stealth, deception, perception management, false memories, false appearance, misdirection, illusions etc. A flood of abduction cases starting in the late 50s and early 60s presents a huge body of evidence in support of this perspective.

When we select out the probable psychological noise of false cases from what appear to be real cases, a picture emerges of a serious threat to earth human rights and liberties and our genome sovereignty. It’s becoming obvious that we are not the top predators of the planet that we think we are, and have little genome security defenses, let alone space defenses against such a crafty and sophisticated predator essentially doing with us what it will. I must say that this position is still vigorously contested by some UFO/ET investigators especially those that claim positive experiences with certain types of Greys.

A good example of Greys possibly accelerating biotechnology and genetic research can be found in the following case. thenightsky.org/mullis.html en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kary_Mullis

On a Friday night in April 1983, Dr. Kary Mullis, a biochemist, was driving up to his cabin in Mendocino County in northern California. During that drive to his Anderson Valley cabin Mullis conceived one of the great discoveries of modern chemistry: the polymerase chain reaction (PCR), a surprisingly simple method for making unlimited copies of DNA, thereby revolutionizing biochemistry almost overnight. Dr. Mullis described his discovery in Scientific American ("The Unusual Origin of the Polymerase Chain Reaction", April, 1990). He was awarded the 1993 Nobel Prize in Chemistry for his discovery.

On another Friday night, during the summer of 1985, Dr. Mullis drove up to his cabin. Arriving around midnight after driving for about three hours, Mullis dumped groceries he bought on the way, switched on the lights (powered by solar batteries) and headed, with flashlight in hand, to the outside toilet located about 50' west of the cabin. He never got there that night. Quoting from his 1998 book Dancing Naked in the Mine Field, Mullis encountered something extraordinarily weird on the way. "...at the far end of the path, under a fir tree, there was something glowing. I pointed my flashlight at it anyhow. It only made it whiter where the beam landed. It seemed to be a raccoon. I wasn't frightened. Later, I wondered if it could have been a hologram, projected from God knows where."

"The raccoon spoke. “Good evening, doctor," it said. I said something back, I don't remember what, probably, "Hello.' The next thing I remember, it was early in the morning. I was walking along a road uphill from my house." Mullis had no idea how he got there but he was not wet from the extensive early morning dew. His flashlight was missing. He was never able to find it. He had no signs of injury or bruising. The lights of the cabin were still on, along with the groceries on the floor. Some six hours had gone by unaccounted for.

Later in the day he found that an area of his property...the most beautiful part of my woods, had inexplicably become a place of dread. A year or so later Mullis exorcised this fear John Wayne-style by shooting the woods up. While his attempt at psychotherapy proved successful it did not help him find out what had happened that night in the summer of 1985. Mullis would become the only known Nobel Prize laureate to claim an experience of what might be an alien abduction.

He describes himself as "a generalist with a chemical prejudice." Others have described him as "Hunter Thompson meets Stephen Hawking" or "the world's most eccentric and outspoken Nobel Prize-winning scientist." It is not easy to dispose of Mullis's experience as a drug or alcoholic hallucination. For one, he was not affected by either that midnight. Plus, he has not been the only one to have experienced strange events at the cabin.

His daughter, Louise, disappeared for about three hours after wandering down the same hill. She also reappeared on the same stretch of road. Her frantic fiancée was about to call the local sheriff. Mullis had told no one of his experience until his daughter called to tell him to buy Whitley Strieber's Communion. She was calling to also tell her father about her strange experience. By coincidence when she called, Mullis had already been drawn to the book and was up to the point where Strieber reports strange "owls" and little men entering his house.

In his own book Mullis concluded, "I wouldn't try to publish a scientific paper about these things, because I can't do any experiments. I can't make glowing raccoons appear. I can't buy them from a scientific supply house to study. I can't cause myself to be lost again for several hours. But I don't deny what happened. It's what science calls anecdotal, because it only happened in a way that you can't reproduce. But it happened."

Dr. Mullis confirmed all this and more when spoken with recently. Another person encountered a "glowing raccoon" between the cabin and the toilet. This was a friend of Mullis who did not know of the "raccoon" story and was a first-time visitor, during a party at the cabin after the announcement of the Nobel Prize win in 1993. This man did not stick around and fled up the hill towards the house. On the way he encountered a small glowing man, which then suddenly enlarged into a full sized man who said something like, "I'll see you tomorrow."

The man, who was not experiencing a drug or alcohol-induced hallucination left with a friend without informing anyone. They returned to their hotel at a nearby town. That night the man inexplicably found himself outside in the hotel car park troubled and terrified by the impression he had somehow been back at the Mullis cabin. He and his friend returned the following night to the cabin. The celebratory party was carrying on from the previous night. As the man arrived he was shocked to see the "full-sized man" seen as an enlarging apparition the night before drive up in a car.

This was too much for the first time visitor. He left in a panic, holding Mullis somehow responsible for the previous night’s events. Sometime later in tears he revealed the full story to Mullis, who identified the man his friend he had seen as his elderly neighbor. Mullis checked with his neighbor and sure enough he had come to the party on the second night, arriving to be seen by the terrified visitor. However he was certain he was not there on the first night, not in person and not lurking as a glowing raccoon or a small glowing man that enlarged into a vision of himself. There is more but that can perhaps wait for another more detailed telling. (End)

[auntym]

Dec 14, 2011 13:28:45 GMT -6 Steve said:

Thanks AuntyM, I have mentioned Kary Mullis in talks.

Steve

you're welcome.... i find him fascinating too...

[skywalker]

Dec 14, 2011 16:18:53 GMT -6 paulette said:

I am very grateful for this posting, in which a brilliant person and obviously competant scientist acknowledges that LSD was an all-important part of his education. I have always felt a little side-lined even here by openly admitting that a mind altering substance played a part in who I am and what happened to me.

There's no reason to feel bad about anything that happened in the past, Paulette. Especially anything that happened in the 1960s when everybody on the planet was experimenting with drugs. Personally, I would kind of like to hear about the experiences you had with mind altering substances because I don't know anything about them myself. That's something I will never know from personal experience. Feel free to share anything you would like.

[lois]

Thanks so much Auntym... I was not aware of this man and his work or his abduction.. It is facinating..Aliens abduct all types of people. Even people like Kury..
He said raccoon.. Now this is new to me also. I read closely to see if a swan was mention. I have search for a case with a swan encounter most of my life.

My brother and I had an encounter with a swan. It came down from above and landed in our yard. Next recollecion there was no swan in the yard . We did not see it leave. We were running toward it and time changed somehow. I may not of put this on my experiences

Our Mother said she was in the yard looking for us and we were not there. Where did we go? She told us later Swans don't come down in to peoples yards. Will always be a mystery..

For some one like Kury to come forward is rare.. Can you imagine how many have not told?

Does anyone here have a complete list of screen memory animals?

This thread has me thinking about this and it probably won't stop for days..

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I think I have a screen memory Lois. I was being followed late at night in the middle of the winter by a dog.

He was a medium sized husky-mixed dog and he had this HUGE thick chain around his neck and one of the links was broken. A dog that size could not have broken that chain by himself...

He followed me for two miles and wouldn't let me get close to him. I heard the jingling of his chain behind me the whole time...

He didn't bark, he didn't growl, he didn't do anything. When I stopped, he stopped and sat down and stared at me. I would try to coax him to come near me and he would just sit there and stare at me silently. I have NEVER seen a dog do that before in my entire life... I would try to walk closer to him and he would stand up and back away from me until I stopped moving towards him, then he would sit in the snow again and stare at me...

[paulette]

Lois and Lorelei. Screen animals - try getting a list of all the shapes that Zeus took to fool earth maidens into having sex with him. In the case of the swan - he appeared to Leda and pinned her to the ground with his great wings. To another virgin (he liked virgins) in shower of golden light and again, took the woman against her will - screen memories covering rapes? The women he came to always had offspring. These half or demi-gods were sometimes heroes to their human communities, sometimes alienated outsiders.

There probably was a good reason that those pictures of children or kittens or puppies with big eyes (often velvet paintings from Mexico) unfailingly creeped me out. Big black eyes and always a tilted head. (An implied please, come to me, take care of me). That is the bait that is used on children I believe. I'm lonely, come play with me...

As for the husky dog that accompanied you Lorelei - I too was accompanied by a large white dog that didn't want to be touched. It showed up just at the time when I was walking a considerable way in the evening to get to a friend's house and had had a drive by by some young men in a truck shouting predictable and frightening things at me (think Hippie skag woman do you want ....).

The large almost glowing in the dark dog showed up and solemnly walked with me. I talked it it. I was worried that I was taking it away from its own territory and that it would get lost. I suggested I was OK. It didn't exactly shake its head but I got that it was going to come with me. When I got where I was going people were upset that I had walked (I grew up rurally and had a life-long habit of walking at night or in the day time). I explained that I had had company and maybe he would like a drink of water. There was no dog present anymore. I never saw a dog that looked like that dog again. It looked like a husky or even a wolf. It didn't have a collar. It probably saved my *bleep*.

And (I realize this is a broken up posting) before the topic gets covered up - regarding my UFO/ET or not experience in Texas and the fact that I was on a mind altering substance....I knew that any report I would make (including here) who be seen as not credible. Even though the "side effect" of drinking a lot beer on a camping trip is NOT predictably seeing a UFO somehow people think that being altered means that everything that happens during that time is bogus. Well, it is not a side effect of any substance that I know of to see (and show to unaltered people to see) something zig-zagging around in the sky. And then disappearing behind a close clump of trees. The rest of it may not be so well documented by the other players - suffice to say, something happened that night and I did not make it happen.

I have said here recently that I paid dues for not saying what I was "supposed to" say or not staying still when I was supposed to. All my life friends. Even now, in my counselling practice I say things that I think, "If this is reported back to the people who pay me to keep employees on their feet (and working) no matter what has happened to them....they'd be surprised/horrified at the stuff I say." I ask people who have had someone close to them die - "Well have they returned to talk to you?" Would you guess that approx. 90% say yes, or that they've had an important dream or an object show up in a timely fashion...But this is off the chart of short term solution focused counselling. Make no mistake - I'd be disciplined...

I think Steve has made statements about investigating but being sure that the people were not using any substance. I can see that that might be good science, but I also think that if substance increases the likelihood of telepathic skills or even acceptance of a visitation that some babies are going out with the bath water. We walk around shut down. Sometimes people open up when stoned - to the Universe and all that is in it. I don't do substance anymore. I don't have the courage to deal with it. It's easier to always pass as dull normal. And perhaps, I no longer am dull normal - the key was turned in the lock

[Deleted]

I understand what you're saying Paulette.

When I used to smoke weed (haven't in quite some time...) it would definitely open up my mind. I started writing songs with very interesting lyrics... one of them I've been thinking could be stemming from my ET encounter in the living room.

I shared the song with sky and Steve via a private message. I was stoned when I composed it and wrote the lyrics. I may post it on here, but I'd have to upload it to youtube first...

I was 19 when I recorded it. It was the first song I recorded on my new music software on my computer. The words just flowed out of me and the idea in my head was that I was singing about a young man whom I was in love with... now though I'm not so sure...

Here are the lyrics:

When I look into your eyes
I see ice and cloudy skies
You're hiding your emotions deep inside

Every time I see you
It seems you want to show...
...You want to show me something I should know...

My dear do you remember
That night so long ago
The frost was on the trees
And the ground was thick with snow
I told you how I felt
You shrugged as though you knew
And just a short time after that
You found somebody new

When I look into your face
You look away so grace-fully
First a deer caught in the light
Then a man who's lost a fight
I feel my sweet that I should now explain...
Just in case you're feeling the same pain...

My dear do you remember
That night so long ago
The frost was on the trees
And the ground was thick with snow
You told me how you felt
I nodded for I knew
And just a short time after that
I found somebody new...

~repeat first verse then chorus~

[skywalker]

I had a dream about a raccoon last night. There were aliens in it also. I haven't posted it on my dream thread yet but I will when I get a chance.

[paulette]

Lorelei - your song is haunting even without my being able to hear the music. Part of being on the edge of the herd is that one does not always choose to settle for predictable arrangements. The standard one still being - I'll give you sexual access, you'll swear forever mutual love to me. We'll buy a house we can't really afford but I'll promise to work. But then maybe I'll have children and not work. Or maybe you'll get hurt and not work. Or one or both or us will ease the pain with addictions.

But on the edge - people met where they may not linger long - in the frosty night. They will share what they can, but they will not swear forever. Those loves are often framed up by well meaning friends and family as mistakes or tragic or wrong. But they are what they are. And in that they may be very honest. And, I think one can love for a short significant time because love is one thing we have to share, however briefly. And if its just sex - well we can respectfully share that too and neither person needs to lose. But the cultural expectations have sharp hooks. And women get punished for living outside the box. And for sharing without requiring lifetime promises.

Of course, loving or caring for someone outside of one's galaxy - well that's a whole different story. In the stories of the gods, some grow fond of and protective of humans. There is obviously a rule against that because they end up cast down or tied to a rock with a vulture eating their liver every day forever. Stiff fines for talking to the natives, giving them fire, whatever. That was always the interesting back story of Spock - could he feel human emotions? Could he love? And then we find out, his father (an unemotional Vulcan) married his mother, an Earthling. Gadoozs! And his Dad was full Vulcan (otherly). That was a fascinating theme but few people thought it through - this is a reoccuring story! Why is it so interesting to us?

Why indeed?

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Wow Paulette. Wow. That's an amazing post you have made.

I find it interesting that you used the word "haunting" because I have played this song for several of my friends and about half of them used that word to describe it... no joke. They said "Your voice is so haunting!"

I actually burned a CD for my boss two days ago and she heard it for the first time and told me the same thing. She also said, "I work with you, and that doesn't sound ANYTHING at all like you! You sound so... sexy!" lol... I'm a nervous nerd usually but when I'm singing or playing the keyboard I turn into a different person...

[sunbow]

Interesting stuff here, wish I had time to visit more. My Grandmother had a wolf experience in the mountains when she was young and ran away. She described the wolf as the most magnificent creature, radiant and splendid, that sat with her for a long while. When she got back to her village it was night and she was in big trouble (not unusual). I bought her a wolf calendar one year for Christmas and she was appalled at the wolves. She told me these were not related to the wonderful creature she saw.

I agree with Paulette, that many psychedelic people have experiences and we cannot preclude them, even more, there may be a direct link between people opening their minds and these experiences. Check out how many rock songs have lyrics that reflect this phenomena (Hendrix, Little Miss Strange), I'm sure we could all list dozens of songs by musicians that were known users.

Lorelie, great song. I agree that deep feelings are involved with these experiences and I believe that very powerful emotions are felt during the unremembered time. These emotions bleed back into one's life in an intense way, adding a layer of depth that is hard to contend with.

[Deleted]

Good to see you again Sunbow! ~hugz~ Thanks for stopping by!

[sunbow]

I need to remember to make time to interact with you all, as you are closer to the edge of truth than most...

[skywalker]

I think we are getting closer to the truth. We haven't gotten to it yet but the more questions we ask the more answers we will find.

[Deleted]

I think different people are given separate components to a conclusion. I've been around animals so much in my life that none stand out except crows..they follow me everywhere..and are supposed to be messengers. I've always thought of them as spirit guides. To most people around here they are obnoxious pests but I think they're amazingly smart and interesting.

I'm not sure what's twisting in the wind but I'm having a horrible time keeping my balance (inner). My emotions are haywire and I am going nuts trying to find purpose. Off and on I wrangle with this but not to this intensity. It's like I'm being kept in a sterile bubble and the world is moving around me and my vision isn't clear at all. I don't feel impending doom..I don't feel much of anything

[skywalker]

I think I know exactly how you feel. I feel the same way for some reason. For the past few days I have been struggling to find some meaning to life or some direction to go in. Everything seems pointless to me right now. I don't know what the problem is. Things that I used to feel passionately about doing I'm now just kind of going through the motions and not really knowing why. I hope whatever it is that is causing this passes soon because I really don't like feeling like this.

[Deleted]

I've been feeling this way too. My mother's theory is the holidays do it to everyone. ~shrug~

It's also the darkest time of the year. We'll all probably start feeling better once the sun starts to come back out again...

[Deleted]

I have always loved the holidays..my favorite time of the year..but this year I struggled with it. It's not the holidays..I just NEED something I can't find..a reason beyond mere existence. Going through the motions every day of just being alive..is NOT enough and yet...here I is Whatever it is Sky...hope the answer appears before we end up in some rubber room

[skywalker]

Maybe this is the rubber room and we just don't realize it.

[Deleted]

There IS that LOL

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Dec 27, 2011 10:48:19 GMT -6 @jokelly said:

I think different people are given separate components to a conclusion. I've been around animals so much in my life that none stand out except crows..they follow me everywhere..and are supposed to be messengers. I've always thought of them as spirit guides. To most people around here they are obnoxious pests but I think they're amazingly smart and interesting.

I'm not sure what's twisting in the wind but I'm having a horrible time keeping my balance (inner). My emotions are haywire and I am going nuts trying to find purpose. Off and on I wrangle with this but not to this intensity. It's like I'm being kept in a sterile bubble and the world is moving around me and my vision isn't clear at all. I don't feel impending doom..I don't feel much of anything

Sounds like my relationship with ravens... they follow me around too and warn me of things to come depending on how they are flying and in what direction... I know that sounds crazy but... this IS the rubber room after all... ;D

Jo, I found this on a German friend's facebook page. This might cheer you up:



Whenever you feel yourself worthless,

NEVER FORGET!

At one time YOU were the fastest sperm!

;D

[sunbow]

Wow, we each won the race

Crows are very amazing birds, with multiple generations living together in their flocks. I highly recommend that anyone who has not goggled the life of crows, do so. They are very intelligent and civilized.

We are in a fish bowl and until we solve our uncivilized ways, we will not be worthy to venture forth into the ocean of the galaxy. Humanity is inside a gravitationally bounded little prison. I think our neighbors may be a bit worried that we might not be the type of guests that they would want to entertain.

[Deleted]

I'm still hardy and strong. That doesn't give me a sense of purpose however LOL. I'm more interested in why the Universe saw fit to make me that fastest sperm. I'm a person who believes that nothing happens by chance..there are no coincidences or random happenings..so..my drive now is to understand those forces around me..not just to exist for the sake of existence. Hmm..we outrun the rest of the wigglers to be born..we grow up (depending on who fosters us) we educate (depending on how much we can ditch and how much our elders enthuse us about it) we work..we marry we procreate..we die?? I don't think so. But I think that's ok for a large percent of the population. One bright Nobel laureate invents bubble gum and another is doing good to raise a child in the ghetto? Is that the universe's idea of balance? If we don't start asking some questions along the way..then we're just accepting of circumstance and we're just existing..not living...I suppose it's my time to be driven to understand. ;D Or does it really just boil down to luck..the luck of who we are born to..where and under what circumstances we are raised. Why are most of congress multi millionairs whose job it is..is to do their best to understand poverty. Wrap your brain around that..they can't begin to understand the drive just to exist from day to day and raise a family in today's economy. They don't have an economy to worry about. Granted they have obstacles (how not to be taxed) but the obstacles acquire different meaning if it's a matter of life or death. So..if it's just random luck..then personally we mean nothing..just players on some enormous chess board. I need to mean something

[sunbow]

IMO: I do not believe in luck, not predestination. The winds of fate weave infinity complex lessons for our souls that visit Earth in these incarnations. In one sense Life itself is the purpose and so to be as totally present and conscious in each instant seems the method to honor the journey.

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I should qualify..I have a limited belief in predestination. I do believe in a universal creator (I named him God) and I think that great entity does have a 'path' for his own (that's the predestination part) how we progress along that is our own choice...the mistakes we make and pay for..the good choices..the bad..are the detours along the path. I think there are many many 'truths' and that they differ for individuals. What feels very right to me may feel alien and off to another...doesn't mean my concept is wrong or another persons is right..they just are all parts of one huge truth we find out about eventually.
Some people are far 'luckier' than others..so that's my catch phrase..luck. Charmed..fortunate..etc.. I have seen people who just don't loose..they gamble and win..they seem to draw it to themselves. Others just seem to be snake bit. They aren't the ones who win the prizes or the lotteries or horse races. We just don't always make our own luck..something puts us in the right place at the right time or helps us with the numbers or keeps us from stumbling at the right moment and maybe that's a part of our karma..our path. We all have trials to learn from..they just are not all colored the same.

That's my take on it anyway

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I agree that there is a consciousness and that it presents synchronicities. Sometimes luck as seen from a different point of view is not truly lucky for the one who has it and sometimes the loser is the real winner. IMO: we are here to grow more conscious, since that seems like what the universe is cultivating in life forms. This period of time we live in has many powerful lessons and some will be hard. I also struggle with finding deeper meaning in the lifestyle we have been born into, since so much that we struggle with does not seem necessary. What is meaningful often seems hollow when death is contemplated. Being blasted by the watchers sure does leave one with a hard time fitting in to the mainstream flow. Most of what people seem to think is important has always been absurd to me, not to be judgmental, but I really o not get it, it seems hollow.