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Post by auntym on Dec 31, 2010 18:02:10 GMT -6
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Post by sunbow on Jan 1, 2011 8:52:44 GMT -6
This does not make sense to me. If you look at the research, many people have abduction experiences while awake and remember without hypnosis. Question: Why the similarity in experience? You can not explain it as people saw the book cover on Communion, since in all the early research before that, the similarities existed. I am sure that there are many people with sleep paralysis and it is possible that this woman may be one, but just last year I met a woman who was seventy and described beings coming to her at night, similar to the grays, but for her they were demons, since she had religion. She did not know anything about UFOs or watch any of the modern TV stuff related to Grays. She did not own a computer or use one ever.
There is something very serious going on and it seems related to the fact that humanity is setting itself up for a near extinction level environmental collapse. Some would say the super storms and oceans rising 25 feet will not happen for another fifty or hundred years, but we rush ahead into that reality. Peopel love denial, it allows igannance to continue. I do not have the answers, but I know ignoring a problem does not make it go away: the problem gets worse.
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Post by auntym on Jan 1, 2011 14:22:13 GMT -6
i agree sunbow....i think this woman was abducted....that dr. can say whatever he likes, i believe he's wrong....
i do like to post different theories on the subjects i tweet (if they're available) so everyone can make up their own minds....i have been accused of being too one-sided....LOL
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2011 18:04:52 GMT -6
All of us are biased in one way or another. We each have our own opinions and theories. Sunbow, I did some research into the "Global Warming" theory. I posted a letter to the editor in my local newspaper a couple of years ago and created quite an "uprising" with it locally... lol. Around 10 hundred AD, an empire began to rise in the North due to a well-documented episode of "Global Warming" which is strikingly similar to what we are now experiencing. Despite what Al Gore says, this has, in fact, happened before in documented history. It was well documented all across Europe. It was catastrophic. Crops failed. Villages resorted to cannibalism. Bad things ensued everywhere it seems during this time period. Unless the Vikings had power plants or automobiles... I don't think that was the cause of this. I took an Environmental Science class in high school (because I failed chemistry lol) and our teacher told us that humanity makes up less than 3% of the "Greenhouse Gasses" in Earth's atmosphere. Most of these "Greenhouse Gasses" present in Earth's atmosphere come from volcanic activity (Carbon monoxide) and rotting foliage in the rainforests (methane). These are natural sources of Greenhouse Gasses, and they produce far more than we do... Volcanoes and Geysers alone produce 70% of Greenhouse Gasses in Earth's atmosphere. I stand firm in my belief that Al Gore is an Idiot, and that Global Warming is a natural phenomenon... however, pollution is a big problem for us in this day and age. Clean Energy and not wasting resources is a good thing to pursue. No harm can come of it. Edit:Full article, and complete list of sources: www.suite101.com/content/new-study-proves-volcanoes-cause-global-warming-a220106
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Post by starkiller on Jan 1, 2011 19:30:15 GMT -6
Many abductees claim that the aliens show them pictures of environmental destruction and try to teach them to stop polluting. It seems to be a common them during abductions. Maybe Al Gore is their leader. I agree that global warming is a natural phenomenon, but we are still dumping huge amounts of pollution onto our planet, in the air, water, and on the land. It is definitely having an adverse effect on a lot of things. I can very easily see why an extraterrestrial race would want us to stop doing it. We should want us to stop doing it. Nobody wants to live in a garbage dump.
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Post by skywalker on Jan 1, 2011 20:10:30 GMT -6
I finally got around to watching the lady in the abduction videos and I do not by this sleep paralysis theory. That may explain some cases of abduction reports, but not all of them. When I was abducted my friend had the exact same experience. Are the doctors and skeptics claiming that two different people can have sleep paralysis at the same time and both remember the exact same things happening to them? I seriously doubt it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2011 5:15:22 GMT -6
Yes starkiller, I agree with you on that. We are doing terrible things to our environment and it needs to stop. In Alaska, there have been a lot of problems with "Marine Debris" washing up on our shores... much of it is from Japan. Garbage, milk cartons and so on and so forth with Japanese writing on it is washing up on our shores... some garbage from Russia as well. I found this image of "Marine Debris" in Hawaii... I couldn't find any photographs of it in Alaska however, but I remember seeing photographs in the local paper, but none of them are on the internet now it seems... but it looked a lot like this one (From what I remember at least) upload.wikimedia.org/
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Post by skywalker on Jan 2, 2011 7:56:02 GMT -6
I remember that is pretty much what a lot of the United States used to look like back in the 1970s. There was pollution everywhere back then. Lakes and rivers were catching on fire from all of the chemicals in them, and fish were jumping up onto the shore because they would rather die on land than to swim in the polluted water. It was a mess. We have made a lot of progress since then but we still have a long way to go. If the aliens are trying to help people realize that then I have no problem with it. People should listen to them.
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Post by auntym on Jan 12, 2011 0:03:01 GMT -6
alienabductionsexposed.com/alien-abductions-story-of-uri-geller/ Alien Abductions: Story of Uri GellerPosted by Caroline on Jan 11th, 2011 While Uri Geller never claimed to be the subject of alien abductions, he certainly experienced some form of extraterrestrial contact that some would say left him forever changed. In his book, Uri – The Original and Authorised Biography Of Uri Geller – The Man Who Baffles The Scientists, Andrija Puharich describes Geller’s alien encounter as well as messages and supposed paranormal abilities given to Geller by aliens. In the 1970s Geller reported that at the age of 3 he witnessed a large, bowl shaped light in the sky while he was outside playing. Within the light, there was a radiant, human form, which Geller claimed programmed him giving him psychic powers as part of the human evolutionary process in preparation for future extraterrestrial contact with our world. The author, Puharich, hypnotized Geller in November of 1971, and in the book describes that Geller was contacted by a dazzling UFO, and in the hypnosis session, a being spoke through Geller. This alien being told Puharich that he was Geller’s “programmer.” This extraterrestrial issued a warning of an impending war between Egypt and Israel. The alien intelligence using Geller to speak called itself SPECTRA or Hoova and actually claimed to be a Rhombus 4-D computer into which various souls, bodies and minds of intelligent beings had been transferred. This alien being claims it exists in the future and can materialize space probes to visit Earth. SPECTRA further told them that it exists millions of light years from Earth. Their preferred method of contact with Geller was through automatic writing and hypnotic trances. SPECTRA claimed responsibility for UFO sightings in the world and also that it gives advice to human every 6,000 years. It told Geller that it first visited our planet 20,000 years ago and landed at the Oak of Mamre, which is in modern day Israel. Interestingly, it mentioned that there are many other space visitors to our planet from other dimensions and universes. Puharich was an Army officer, medical and parapsychology researcher who brought Uri Geller to the United States to scientifically investigate his claims and abilities. He believed that Geller was more than just a spoon bender and mind reader and attributed him with a prophet like ability to serve as an intermediary between man and divine intelligence.
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Post by auntym on Jan 12, 2011 0:13:17 GMT -6
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Alien Abductions: Story of Antonio Villa BoasPosted by admin on Dec 13th, 2010 Stories of alien abductions have increased over the last 50 years. One of the early alien abduction stories is that of Antonio Villas Boas in October 1957. He claimed to have been abducted by aliens and seduced by an exquisitely beautiful alien female on their UFO. His alien abduction story was the first such story to receive widespread acclaim and also be accepted as a true alien encounter. Working Late on the Farm Boas reported that he was trying to avoid the daily heat and decided to plow fields in the nighttime near Sao Francisco de Sala, Brazil. While working, he spotted a red star that began moving in his direction. As it approached he realized it was an egg shaped UFO with red front lights and a rotation top. It landed in the field where he was farming, and he quickly tried to leave on his tractor. He made it only a short distance before the engine and lights died. While fleeing on foot, a five foot tall humanoid clothed in gray overalls and helmet grabbed him and with the help of three other aliens, subdued and brought him inside the UFO. On the Spacecraft Boas recounted later that he was stripped of his clothes and covered in red gel. He was then taken into a room with strange, red symbols engraved on the doorway. The aliens took blood samples from him and left him in a third room for about 30 minutes. While waiting in this room, a noxious gas was pumped inside and Boas said he became extremely ill. The Seduction After a while, another alien came into the room, however, this one was an extremely attractive, naked female. Boas described her with platinum white hair and large, blue eyes that resembled cat’s eyes. He was aware of being strongly attracted to her. Then she approached him to begin copulation with him. All during the encounter he recalls she spoke with barking noises rather than understandable speech. Shortly after the experience, she rubbed her lower stomach all while pointing skyward as if meaning she would now be with his child and then take it to space with her. At that point, he was allowed to dress and then taken on a tour of the spacecraft. He stated he tried to take an object from the ship to prove his experience; however, the aliens caught him and removed the item from his possession. Returning Home Alien Abduction Story of Antonio Villas BoasWhen he was returned to the field where he was abducted, Boas realized he had been absent for about 4 hours. He went to be medically examined after his ordeal, and it wasn’t until four months after the alien abduction before he publically came forward with his story. Doctors learned he had radiation poisoning as he suffered from body pain, headaches, nausea leading to loss of appetite. He also had bruise like lesions that oozed and were painful for months after the alien abduction. The military also submitted him to mental and physical testing and most accept that he experienced a true alien abduction. Boas when on to live his life and later became an attorney. He was father to four kids. He maintained his alien abduction story for his whole life until he passed away in 1992.
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Post by auntym on Jan 12, 2011 0:25:27 GMT -6
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Alien Abductions in Nome, AlaskaPosted by Caroline on Nov 15th, 2010 Alien Abductions in Nome, Alaska Just learned about a movie on alien abductions in Nome, Alaska. Gosh, I guess I’m behind the times as “The Fourth Kind” starring Milla Jovovich released in November last year and was put on DVD a few months ago. I decided I’d first do a little research especially if planning to watch a film that some say is the Blair Witch Project style movie of alien abductions. To me, that means I’ll be awake for the next week. Me and horror films don’t mix too well! Unfortunately, I also have to watch these horror style films late at night when the kids are safely asleep in their beds or else they’d be with me in my bed for the next week too, wide awake looking in closets and behind doors! Well, apparently Nome, Alaska is the site of several disappearances dating from the 1960s to 2005. In case you don’t know your geography, Nome is located on the west coast of Alaska just near the Bering strait. After years of missing persons in the area, the FBI finally came to investigate in 2005. There were over 24 cases of native males disappearing as they traveled from small villages to the commercial city of Nome. Of the 24 missing, nine of the men were never found. The town became famous in the area as the place where people disappear, and natives were warned to not travel alone, particularly at night. The FBI attributed the disappearances to the combination of drinking alcohol and extremely cold weather. The Fourth Kind has a different take. This piece of cinematography presents the missing persons cases as alien abductions. In case you aren’t familiar with the classification system for alien abductions. There are basically 5 types of alien encounters: 1) The First Kind – UFO sightings or encounters 2) The Second Kind – Actual physical evidence of UFO discovered 3) The Third Kind – Made famous by Steven Spielberg’s Close Encounters of the Third Kind, it is actual contact with aliens or extraterrestrials, not just a UFO. 4) The Fourth Kind – alien abductions 5) The Fifth Kind – Ongoing communication between aliens and person abducted by aliens So in naming the movie, the filmmakers used a spin off of the alien encounters classification system to present their view of the possibility of alien abductions in these cases. Why is this movie about alien abductions important? Well the fact is that citizens of Nome, Alaska stated that all FBI investigations only looked at police reports about the disappearances rather than interviews of residents. Additionally, the FBI investigations cover a wide span of time from the 1960s to 2005. What happened to the bodies? Where is the evidence of these missing people? In light of the increasing accounts of UFO sightings and stories of alien abductions, it is important to remember that many have complained that the anecdotal evidence, UFO video and pictures as well as eyewitness testimony is not being used by authorities when investigating all types of cases related to disappearances and sightings. Movies such as the The Fourth Kind remind us to look deeper when analyzing the data available regarding these encounters.
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Post by auntym on Jan 24, 2011 19:34:05 GMT -6
endlessjrny.blogspot.com/2011/01/taken-and-thrown-back-without-concern.htmlA paranormal friend of mine contacted me about my interviews with people who have encountered unexplained lost time or abduction experiences . My friend Ed Fleming told me he knew a man who he felt had been dealing with abduction events for many years. I asked Ed to find out if the man would allow me to talk to him concerning his abductions. Ed informed that the man has endured extreme events of high strangeness since he was a small child. He did not enjoy talking about them due to the reaction of most people including those who investigate or write about them. Luckily for me Ed was able to convince this man to spend some time talking to me. bob is the name he used when I was introduced to him. bob is a tall , handsome man in his early 40's. He is well spoken and friendly. He lives in a small town in the Pacific North West of the United States with his wife and children. He does not often talk about the events of his life but was willing to tell me part of what he has endured over the last 40 years. Brain's ordeal began when he was a child of four years of age He was living with his family in a small sleepy New England town at the time.. He recalls waking up in the middle of the night screaming and frozen in this bed unable to get up to run to his family for help. He recalls the terror of this so strongly it has stayed with him his entire life. bob recalls that his father admitted he could hear his son screaming for help on occasion yet found he was not able to move from where he was in order to help him. His father would become paralyzed during these encounters unable to move his arms or legs . He would not be able to get out of his bed. When he could finally rise he would run in to the room where his children were sleeping only to find them asleep. These encounters remained a family mystery as they never did understand what was happening to them during those strange night time events. Brain's life continued on as a typical little boy on all other levels beyond the strange events at night until he was in his 8th year. Brain has a clear memory of an incident that happened to him when he was 8 years old. He was alone in his room playing when a very tall ( at least 7ft ) being entered his room. The being was more of a shadow as Brain cannot recall it having any clear features other than wearing a robe type garment. The being had light behind and around it. bob will never forget the crippling fear he felt as this being came towards him while he sat playing in his room. He recalls the fear was so overpowering he was not able to yell or move. He only remembers up to this point and has no memory at all of how the encounter ended. The fear he felt during this encounter was so horrific that Brain can still feel it to this day. He told me he thought his heart was going to pound out of his chest he was so terrified at the being standing before him. He does not recall anything other from that point on. Brain lived his childhood and teens in constant fear of ongoing strange encounters . He often experienced the feel of a rush of wind pass over him leaving the sound of being in a wind tunnel in his ears. During this stage of his life he would also suffer from a pounding vibration in the front of his head . During these experiences he can recall being touched by hands on his wrists, and eyes. He could recall the sensation of floating during these episodes and being trapped in a dimly lit environment. Brain would feel extreme fear after one of these events occurred which would last with him for a very long time. Life was not secure or happy for Brain as a child. Brain grew up and went about his life as normally as he could despite the strangeness of his child hood. He joined the military and went about the business of being a soldier . His life seemed to remain on the road of normal as he went about the work of his military service. He was discharged after his enlistment ended and returned to the ranks of civilian life. His adjustment out of the service was not a smooth one as Brain did not have a set plan , a family or a home to return to at this point in his life.. Like many veterans bob was discharged with a thank you and little more. He was dumped back into society without a place to restart his new non -military life. bob found he was a bit lost and not sure which road to follow at this point in time. Within a short time he found his resources exhausted . Without choice he found himself living for a short in a homeless shelter somewhere in the mid west of the United States. Brain was trying to sort out his life and looking to find a place he felt he fit to begin the next chapter of his lifetime . He would search for work during the day and sleep and eat at the shelter at night. TO CONTINUE READING STORY CLICK ON
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Post by paulette on Jan 24, 2011 21:04:52 GMT -6
Interesting account. (read the rest as well). What stands out - once he was infertile he was not of interest. Corresponds with the informal info here - no one post menopausal or medically infertile have had events since. Men - don't know how long a man's sperm would be considered high quality but I suspect around 35. (Yes I know that men father children after that date but the incidence of problems goes up and both parents are implicated as they age.)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2011 4:02:27 GMT -6
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Alien Abductions in Nome, AlaskaPosted by Caroline on Nov 15th, 2010 Alien Abductions in Nome, Alaska Just learned about a movie on alien abductions in Nome, Alaska. Gosh, I guess I’m behind the times as “The Fourth Kind” starring Milla Jovovich released in November last year and was put on DVD a few months ago. Bud Hopkins mentioned this film on his website. He does not like this movie at all. A lot of my friends who live in Alaska are mad about that movie because it portrays Nome as a small town in southern Alaska with trees and mountains. Nome has no trees. Nome has no mountains. Nome is like an arctic desert with an occasional little bush and little mounds... the movie also portrays most of the population of Nome to be white. Nome is mostly populated by Natives... (this is what I've heard... I haven't seen it). The reason why so many people disappear on their way to Nome from the surrounding rural villages is because Alaska is a wild, dangerous and vastly unpopulated place... ESPECIALLY up THERE. There be wolves here. There be polar bears up that far north, polar bears actually hunt people. Polar bears are one of the few animals on Earth who do this. If they smell you, they think, "Mmm... lunch!" If a polar bear eats you, there won't be very much left. The ravens and other scavengers will eat whatever IS left... There be wolverines. There be Lynx. There be very cold temperatures... there be thin ice over lakes and rivers during certain times of the year and so on and so forth... and if you fall into the river or the lake underneath your feet... nobody will be around for miles and miles to hear you scream. It has nothing to do with aliens.
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Post by skywalker on Jan 25, 2011 10:54:19 GMT -6
Calm down, Lorelei. We don't want to get all the folks up there riled up. I don't think anybody in the UFO community liked the Fourth Kind movie. There was a lot of hype building up to it and the way it was portrayed it had the potential to be a great movie, but it turned out to be a flop. They could have done a much better job with it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2011 14:35:44 GMT -6
I am calm. I'm just on my soap box again.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2011 15:15:53 GMT -6
This is an image taken at the bottom of the hill at UAF. These two dudes are members of the "Forty-Below Club". What does the "Forty-Below Club do?? They strip down to their boxer shorts or slip on a bikini, run down the hill and get their picture taken in front of the temperature sign when it's -40. www.whyfairbanks.com/www.whyfairbanks.com/images/40-Below-in-Fairbanks.jpgGreat, isn't it? ~smirk~ The reason why I posted this here is because if ANYONE should be abducted by aliens, it should be these two characters...
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Post by skywalker on Jan 25, 2011 20:43:57 GMT -6
I think they have a better chance of being abducted by squirrels because they are nuts!
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Post by paulette on Jan 25, 2011 21:28:23 GMT -6
Lorelei - 4th Kind was one of those movies where you root for the bad guys. I found the psychiatrist so whiny that I didn't care what happened to her (in the movie, its just a movie...).
Bad late date in Nome as you mentioned would probably be with a polar bear or some hideous situation of cold and wet that the person wasn't prepared for.
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Post by skywalker on Jan 25, 2011 21:55:00 GMT -6
I agree, that psychiatrist was a wimp. Why does hollywood always portray UFO enthusiasts as a bunch of loony nutcases? Remember the nerdy guy from AFAR in the movie Fire in the Sky? Typical Hollywood UFO buff. It gets annoying after a while.
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Post by Steve on Jan 25, 2011 23:16:29 GMT -6
This is an image taken at the bottom of the hill at UAF. These two dudes are members of the "Forty-Below Club". What does the "Forty-Below Club do?? They strip down to their boxer shorts or slip on a bikini, run down the hill and get their picture taken in front of the temperature sign when it's -40. Great, isn't it? ~smirk~ www.whyfairbanks.com/www.whyfairbanks.com/images/40-Below-in-Fairbanks.jpgThe reason why I posted this here is because if ANYONE should be abducted by aliens, it should be these two characters... Actually these two dudes are still there.... frozen in front of that sign over a week later..tourists walk up and pose for pictures next to them...passing dogs walk up, lift a hind leg and....ummmmm....polar bears come up, sniff a little.... and think....pop cycles! In a few months they will thaw out........with spring break.... ;D Steve ------------------- Note: This post has been modified in order to remain in compliance with copyright laws. (All I did was delete the photo Steve and replace it with links. )
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Post by Steve on Jan 25, 2011 23:34:21 GMT -6
I think no one serious about abductions really thinks very much positive about 'the fourth Kind'. The town posing as Nome, Alaska is actually near Sofia, Bulgaria.
The experiencers I am working with after their strange events recently began again...mentioned in passing....we decided to rent & watch the 'The fourth Kind' last night.... I said to myself annoyingly..."Oh great!"
I think Lorelei pegged it well.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2011 1:14:34 GMT -6
I think they have a better chance of being abducted by squirrels because they are nuts! ;D ;D ;D I agree!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2011 1:18:26 GMT -6
I think no one serious about abductions really thinks very much positive about 'the fourth Kind'. The town posing as Nome, Alaska is actually near Sofia, Bulgaria. The experiencers I am working with after their strange events recently began again...mentioned in passing....we decided to rent & watch the 'The fourth Kind' last night.... I said to myself annoyingly..."Oh great!" I think Lorelei pegged it well. Steve Bulgaria huh? Interesting, thanks for sharing that little tidbit of information.
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Post by auntym on Feb 6, 2011 12:02:34 GMT -6
ALIEN ABDUCTION PHENOMENON 1/8 W/ DR. JOHN MACK
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PART 2
PART 3
PART 4
PART 5
PART 6
PART 7
PART 8
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Post by lois on Feb 7, 2011 21:24:04 GMT -6
Auntym.. I watched all the above videos. Some I had seen before.. I would like to ask this question.. somewhere I heard John Mack was run over by a automobile and killed, if so can you explain where and who ran over him.. ??
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Post by auntym on Feb 7, 2011 21:29:59 GMT -6
Auntym.. I watched all the above videos. Some I had seen before.. I would like to ask this question.. somewhere I heard John Mack was run over by a automobile and killed, if so can you explain where and who ran over him.. ?? Lois this is soooo sad.... yes, he was hit by a car, while out walking on an english country road, it was a hit & run.... a lot of people believe it was deliberate.... what a loss....
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Post by lois on Feb 7, 2011 23:47:08 GMT -6
you mean New England in the states? thanks I thougth he was in a big city like new york.. How long ago.. I lost track of him years ago..
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Post by lois on Feb 7, 2011 23:51:17 GMT -6
Some day I'm going to find that book I read about a man you lost five years of his life while observing a ufo as he stood in his front yard.. early morning, he had went out to get the newspaper.. Lives some where in the midwest today..
hard to believe, they even bothered to bring him back ..his wife left him as she did not believe his crazy story..
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Post by auntym on Feb 8, 2011 0:16:12 GMT -6
you mean New England in the states? thanks I thougth he was in a big city like new york.. How long ago.. I lost track of him years ago.. NO, not new england as in the states....ENGLAND as in the country... you might find this interesting: this article claims it was a drunk driver, i was wrong about it being a hit & run.... a lot of people believe this was 'no accident'..... also , the man that hit him just got 15 mos. www.projectcamelot.org/mack.html
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