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Post by auntym on Dec 27, 2011 13:42:53 GMT -6
www.agoracosmopolitan.com/news/ufo_extraterrestrials/2011/12/25/2409.html#.TvngYtqNlX0.twitter Missouri witness recalls Extraterrestrials underground[/color] Date: 25 December 2011 Posted By : Special to The Canadian Witness: Pat Garrett A friend and I were riding two ATVs in a place called, "The Underground" in 2004. It is a public and private storage facility in Missouri. What makes this place such a desirable storage facility is that it is all underground...hence the name. They are constantly expanding this place and there are miles and miles of carved out caves in there...and it goes pretty deep. This facility stores thousands and thousands of food containers, all dehydrated for the Navy... I have seen them and it is public knowledge around here. It is also a fall out shelter able to hold some 40,000 to 50,000 people. I tell you this to give some sense of the vastness of the place. I worked there as a subcontractor some 9 years ago... I helped build the office spaces up on top. I started to explore then... about once a month and did so all the way until this past Sunday. However, I never went as far or as deep before either. It was fun to take the ATVs and cruise underground...no rain or weather problems...ever. We were approx 8 miles in and I'd say maybe 500 feet deep when we took a turn down an area that was marked "Naval Authoritative Zone" I remember making a comment about the Navy getting a ship down there and said that was an easy posting. The walls became more defined as in: polished or finished and this was striking because this was supposed to be a newly blasted area... totally backward I would think...still thinking nothing was wrong we kept going, actually increasing speed because the floor was paved now and we could go faster. We came up on an unusual painted pattern on the floor and I thought, "cool graffiti... kids have been down here... we're safe... won't get into any trouble." The road dipped down and then it took a 90' turn to the left... we had no warning and we were going too fast. I knew we were going to hit the wall. BUT we DIDN'T... we passed through some kind of projection of the cave siding... although I don't know how it was done...it was real looking. We passed into a whole new road system... this one was large, and much older than where we came from. We started to smell an odour...musty, damp, growing stronger as we went deeper on smell. The lighting decreased as well probably 60% less than the other area's...we turned on our headlights. We continued on at about 5 to 7 miles an hour for about 5 min and we noticed it was getting cooler... which was to me, very strange...since once inside a cave a certain distance... the temp says the same. We made a right turn and started to come up on what I thought was a rest area on the side... about 40 feet away. CONTINUE READING: www.agoracosmopolitan.com/news/ufo_extraterrestrials/2011/12/25/2409.html#.TvngYtqNlX0.twitter
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Post by paulette on Dec 27, 2011 13:57:37 GMT -6
This has been posted before - maybe on UFOmania or even Mufon. I don't remember the detail of having to leave the ATV down there.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2011 15:23:53 GMT -6
Though I don't dream much, this has some similarities to a dream I had recently that I mentioned on Jc's thread although I didnt mention any details about it.
I dont have much doubts that there are "secret" things hidden in some of these underground facilities but Im skeptical about this particular story because of the lack of security involved . If there were alien creatures down there the likelyhood of even getting through the 1st entrance without being stopped by some type of security personnel or structure would be next to impossible IMO.
The creatures being armed is the 2nd clue that this probably isnt true unless they're gaurding something in a joint effort with other "officials".
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Post by Steve on Dec 27, 2011 23:32:48 GMT -6
Strange. These stories fill the Internet, and yet no one ever follows up on them.
A number of things comparing cases seem to repeat. The Clifford Stone new book by Paola Harris has Stone being in Army crash recoveries, and the entities described always being down in caves. In the crash recovery army officer near Fort Bliss Texas the family I am working with describes the entities in the desert hiding out in caves too. Then there is this story.
This story has a location, a time and apparently has been deeply infiltrated too. So why are investigators not swarming over this place? Like Randy's secret base in Marin Co. (sorry to bring that one up again). Having seen aliens in and around sensitive strategic Navy dry food stocks? If this was real, why are these Navy guard personnel not being charged with dereliction of duty? There must be other facilities there too.
Does this witness have a name that can be checked? The local Sheriff would have a phone record of the call on their computer system, which automatically traces the callers address, name, phone number. More phantom Internet witnesses I fear. The lighting can be funny down there. Assuming the person telling the story was even in such a place. If the witness came forward, and repeated consistantly overtime the same account, can show where, so that story can begin to have at least some legs to stand on...maybe this is an old story from 'OMF'? Such an important story, wouldn't you think the witnesses would come forward?
Beer has a way of making Marine guards seem like 'Reptilians too, so does cracking up one's ATV.
Steve
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Post by paulette on Dec 28, 2011 0:57:52 GMT -6
Who does that sort of checking Steve? Ideally Mufon or some organization with at least an hoannarium to pay for investigator's gas and phone bill...
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Post by Steve on Dec 28, 2011 3:09:00 GMT -6
Hi Paulette, I suppose it would depend who was at hand & ask the sensible questions. Funny how they just happen to forget the location's address. This posted in my living room on my new Kendle Fire. Poof! Steve
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2011 6:54:44 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2011 11:18:54 GMT -6
In the past, I had dreams of underground places. Smells, sights, water dripping around a lake; a cool handrail to the touch. Funny thing was, I never saw anyone else (just me and my guide). And I wasn't terribly afraid. There was constructed (as if sheet metal) walls, but I always got the sense that we were underground; as opposed to being on a "ship". Maybe it was the dampness on top of the cool. If some dreams are real, I don't know why I was "shown" these places. I "know" these places are around, but I wouldn't know where to go. On 12-23-11 I drove thru an area that is now (again) a public road. I mentioned an old rock quarry(on another thread) that I knew had a storage facility underground nearby. Imagine my surprise that the rock quarry has advanced enough that a person can now see underground caverns from the road. The entire area has changed in the last 10 yrs. This area is adjacent across the highway from the old Bannister mall site (bulldozed). On the north side of it is a landfill, and blue river road. "Blue River Rd" is gradually undergoing changes. The river gets flooded in places, and what was once a scenic, two-lane road is having to be rebuilt. The river (and road) travels (traveled?) jaggedly from Belton, Missouri to Independence, Missouri. Passing through Kansas City and Raytown. Along this river, at bannister rd, is the honeywell plant. Through all my years growing up, this plant was the Bendix corp. I don't know how much information a person can find about them. I do know that people fished along this river and its lake spillways, and still do. We have a lot of wildlife in this area so I get the sense that local businesses are careful about pollution. I digress. I guess my point is, these underground places could be anywhere. Skywalker showed on another thread recently how "open" these places are, and huge. ATVs are a whole different sound than a truck , and I wondered about just old-fashioned cameras mounted high on the walls. ATVs aren't as "popular" around here as they used to be. Visible trails are overgrown, and I think the local police encourage them to get out of town. As for "fake" cave walls, I do believe we have the technology. So, I have questions.... if underground places are "hiding space ships" and/or alien beings, most likely there is a better exit/entrance to topside. I say if. And then what is the rest of the underground space for? Just left for convenience? I'm thinking of small earth quakes and sink-holes. The way suburbia is progressing ....
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Post by skywalker on Dec 29, 2011 10:59:29 GMT -6
There are probably thousands of underground places scattered all over the world that we know nothing about. They are probably used for a variety of purposes, like storage facilities, bunkers fro politicians( ) in case of war, testing facilities, weapons depots, missile silos, and probably just general stuff that the government doesn't want anybody to know about. I keep thinking of those mysterious humming noises that were mentioned in another thread and can't help wondering if they might be coming from some secret underground facilities somewhere. I'm sure the Feds won't tell us about them if they are. There may even be some that are so old and so secret that people may have even forgotten that they are there.
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Post by sunbow on Dec 31, 2011 17:52:11 GMT -6
Tunnels are everywhere, since they are both useful and also provide shelter for specific disaster scenarios not being discussed openly (solar flares for example, new weapons we don't know about = maybe). Here is one tunnel I heard about and so I found a quote on,
"Sometime this spring, contractors near the Bratenahl-Cleveland border will begin digging a mammoth new hole for a sewer pipe that will be built 200 feet underground -- and run under Lake Erie for more than half a mile."
More than ample opportunities to add a side branch or two. There are vast caverns along the lake where salt mines existed. I talked to someone who delivered a huge tow-motor (one of the ten foot high ones). They needed to send it down the elevator in a couple of pieces and then put it back together underground. It is true that many cities have special facilities for some chosen groups (rich people, some politicians). Lots could be hidden, but mostly they are places to hide.
I enjoy reading stories like this, but as stated above, the lack of real security seems to speak of a false report. Yes, the holographic cave wall sounds very feasible, but IMO once you went through it there would be a huge steal door. If the alien had a weapon, both of these people would be dead, for that matter Navy guards would also use deadly force if there were aliens there.
So the big question is why do we get so many myths like this? Is it people seeking some notoriety or is it conscious disinformation?
One thing is a true fact, if you want to hide the truth from leaking, send out twenty times as many false stories as the true leaks, then no one can sort out the signal from the noise.
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Post by skywalker on Dec 31, 2011 18:11:49 GMT -6
It's probably a combination of both. Some people are just fantasy prone people who love to tell stories and perpetrate hoaxes and the government uses that to its advantage by putting out even more crazy stories to confuse everybody. They are experts at manipulation.
It's kind of strange when you think about it. Some people in the government are telling people UFOs are not real so they can cover up the truth about them, then there are other people in the government who are telling people that UFOs are real so they can also cover up the truth about them. Either way the truth gets covered up.
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