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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2012 19:37:51 GMT -6
Cliff... what do you think of the feet on this one???
They look an awful lot like what you described....
...I know the arms and hands on this one look... very... similar... to... what I... remember...
Dam. If this is a hoax... they got it right... wow...
I dunno what to think of the face... the eyes are closed...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2012 19:40:34 GMT -6
...dam...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2012 11:13:08 GMT -6
Screams faked to me..
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2012 11:58:04 GMT -6
It does look kind of fake-ee... the face and the upper torso look kind of fake and dummy like... but...
Those arms man... those arms are freaking me out... the way the elbow is jointed... and the fingers even though there are five... it's just... really bothering me... seriously... no joke... and the color is right... it's just... wow...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2012 12:03:14 GMT -6
Jo... do you see the entity's right arm? See how the fingers are curled up... and the wrist is bent and all weird looking???
Just like the one I saw in my living room... with the wrist bent all weird and the fingers curled up...
~shudder~
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2012 12:22:43 GMT -6
This image is for Cliff to take a look at... These two look like what I remember...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2012 12:26:04 GMT -6
...dam...
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Post by Steve on Jan 13, 2012 13:04:52 GMT -6
It being Sicily, maybe the alien was behind in his payment to the local Mafia too?
Thank you for the close ups anna. I appreciate that. Your visceral instinctual reaction is noteworthy.
Hybrid? A small gray seems to be depicted. It probably is fake, as all these things usually are. But there is one or two very interesting things - note the hand. The opposing digit (our thumb) is located on the entity's hand where our little finger is. Our relaxed human hand down our sides - the thumb is always to the inside toward our body, just the opposite on these so called 'grays'. That is exactly what Cliff (touched) related to me recently from his experience 11 years ago.
The foot also seems generally consistent with Cliff's description too. A high arch with the heal area not touching the floor or ground, the body weight seemingly on the forward half of the foot. If it is a fake, someone took some care in doing their homework. Usually such 'gray' anatomical details are seldom made public. For instance, Budd Hopkin's had (or his archives has) these details in his research files, but he deliberately never shared these publicly as one of many credibility tests he used for screening some of the countless people who often approached him.
Would you let yourself and your dog get that close to a strange dead animal in the field? No apparent concern in the video about foreign bacteria, viruses, exposure to microorganisms we may not be able to cope with medically? These have been questions raised in the past.
Seems odd too these entities have such pronounced gray pale skin, and yet the body damage (right leg gone) shows red tissue - implying blood and muscle. You would think in general even dead, the skin color would reflect this. I hope it isn't real,
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2012 13:43:02 GMT -6
Actually Steve, it looks like the thumb is in the correct place for a human to me at least... The hand is palm up it appears... because of how the thumb is curled towards the palm... at least that's how it looks to me... it's kinda blurry though... I got another photo off of the video here... it shows the hand and arm in better detail I think... maybe...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2012 13:46:01 GMT -6
The ring finger looks bent and thicker at the base than the other digits... dislocated maybe?
Or perhaps the hoaxer got lazy...
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Post by Steve on Jan 13, 2012 14:34:14 GMT -6
I see what you are saying. It appears you are correct. I have been by the computer typing, and casually rolling my wrist, palm up, palm down palm up.... You know - a limp hand, if their wrists joints and muscle ligaments are similar, it could go either way....
BTW, I just completed the December 2011 UFO maps now that Peter Davenport posted his latest data the evening of December 12th, so I will post very soon. It shows a number of UFO reports around in your area (4 or 5) in December. My adbuctee couple in a nearby state also reported many strange lights and reporting they suspect they may have been visited again around the same time as the sighting reports. Co-incidentally on the same map in their geographical region, it shows a spike in activity locally too.
In each respective area, each shows a number of reports on the same dates/times, with similar descriptions by independent witnesses in nearby different towns - usually red orb lights behaving unusually, and forming triangle formations. Sound familiar?
Steve
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2012 18:05:02 GMT -6
Very interesting... I haven't personally seen red orbs recently though, but a lot of others have...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2012 20:50:22 GMT -6
Ill get back to you soon on this Lorelei, I havent forgot.
Its too bad the video isnt available anymore but I did get the chance to watch it several times and take notes.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2012 21:26:23 GMT -6
Ill get back to you soon on this Lorelei, I havent forgot. Its too bad the video isnt available anymore but I did get the chance to watch it several times and take notes. It's OK Cliff. Take your time hun. I found another version of it on youtube.
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Post by paulette on Jan 18, 2012 21:42:06 GMT -6
Murphy's Laws regarding filming ETs or UFOs.
The camera person will not focus nor hold still for any length of time. No scale will be provided (in this case, the supposed hiker had his foot close to the head. I guess that counts) Most cameras have audio. I'm most impressed when people are babbling incoherently - What's That! etc in any languae. Footage with no audo means = no believable audio. The shoot will focus on a part of the sky BEFORE things move - sometimes incredibly far away. Or They will not focus on the build up. Just why did the camera come out? Was the hiker EXPECTING to find a body? Why isn't the dog reacting - either interested or trying to get away? Dogs are not interested in models. I donno. Doesn't convince me.
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Post by lois on Jan 18, 2012 21:55:46 GMT -6
I wonder where his ship is? Or was he left behind like ET? If a true video, which I seen awhile back but did not post . I thought everyone here would cry fake. When you cast your eyes upon it, you cannot help but wonder was this creature and how did he get here. Or why did he die? Hope he did not get some kind of germ in his body from our world. I keep thinking all sorts of things. Maybe later they will find some kind of evidence around that area.
Are they searching or no explanation on u-tube. Is there an article about this on the net? It sure matches what we have come to expect an alien to look like. Hope more comes out soon. You see these stories and then they are gone forever.
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Post by lois on Jan 18, 2012 21:59:29 GMT -6
I agree Paulette, I'm certainly not convinced my self. I just ask myself all sorts of question if true.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2012 22:08:05 GMT -6
I'm pretty sure it's fake too...
...but the arms look real...
That's the reason why I posted it. I've seen other drawings of the grays, I've seen drawings of hands with suction cups on the fingertips and stuff... none of them looked right before... not quite right...
This one looks right. It's the first time I've seen something that looks right...
If this is a hoax (and it probably is...) the person who made it definitely saw what I saw...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2012 20:10:16 GMT -6
Thanks Lorelei for showing this. Ill try to compare the best I can starting at the top and working down to the feet.
The head : Im starting to lean more to the fact that the beings which I saw possibly had some sort of a suit on of some type. This would explain diffences in appearance , blinking vs. no blinking of the eyes, etc. This thing has a lump,bump, or protrusion on its forehead which doesnt look familiar. I have seen this in other videos of alien beings also. The back of the head doesnt appear as bulbous of what I recall either. The body : similar in appearance but the hip area doesnt look right for some reason.
The arms: Similar, but the joints look like a mannequin.
The hands: If they had 4 long phalanges and the palms and wrists were longer it would be much closer Imo. I had a hard time describing to Steve what the( thumb) looked like(sorry Steve). It is an opposing thumb, similar to a humans . Depending on how you look at it and which angle when trying to describe it, it can be confusing. Because of the fact that there are differences in our hands compared to theirs, (longer wrists, longer palms, less but longer phalanges), it almost requires a drawing to visually portray it. My drawing skills arent the best,lol.
The legs seem too human like. They were skinnier from what I recall .
The feet : Not quite the same. Im going to make another attempt at drawing more details of the entities that came to my home that night. I know my other drawings didnt show as much detail as I wanted so Im going to make another attempt at drawing better details this time around. It is difficult to explain in words . I think drawing them on paper will be much better.
Though this could be a being without its suit on, it doesnt appear to be real imo . There are several reasons why I think its a fake. I saw a video recently of a being which had a lump,bump, or protrusion on its forehead similar to this one which doesnt seem to fit in comparison to what I saw, but it could be a different being or an inury. That could be how they look without a suit on, I just dont know.
The color seems wrong also. It appeared too gray unless thats what they turn to (color) after they are deceased . I recall the beings color as white except for the shaded area which were gray.
When the guy moved the being with his foot it appeared bouncy instead of stiff which I was expecting because of rigor mortis but Im not certain, it just didnt look right. As Steve pointed out also, there wasnt much concern for the safety of himself or his dog when it came to contamination from touching or being too close to the subject.
The lack of enough blood or other tissues in the area throws a flag also. Where the leg is severed it almost appears that this thing may be bio-mechanical, or at least I feel thats what theyre trying to portray. Notice the holes at the hip area where the leg should join.
Something else I noticed at the beginning of the video is the rock behind the being. It appears to have the face of a grey entity. Could this rock be what gave the producer of this video the idea to begin with ? Just a thought.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2012 20:59:27 GMT -6
Thank you for the close ups anna. I appreciate that. Your visceral instinctual reaction is noteworthy. I agree about your reaction too lorelei. If this is fake which I think it is it still has features and characteristics which makes me have to do a double take and look at over and over because of some of the similarities. The hoaxers are getting better at their game if it is one. They have to be using descriptions from abductees to get many of these details . Steve, thanks for sharing that about Budd Hopkins, I had no idea. I did figure there had to be details about the feet that noone else knew, except for very few. Im not sure about the hands though, I may have not correctly explained the details of the thumb. Its difficult to describe over the phone. The details in the hands and feet Im going to draw pictures of and send them to you first. I cant wait to see if there are similarities that Budd Hopkins was describing from other witnesses . Ive always wondered if someone else saw them and described the same details. Though I was scared out of my wits when they came, I can honestly say that I know now that wer'e not alone ! That is the one and only good thing I can say that came out of this experience .
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2012 22:13:00 GMT -6
My memory appears to be faulty. This is understandable considering the amount of time which has passed since my encounter... but those arms and hands are the closest I have seen to what I recall... closer than any of the other "photos" and "videos" which are all probably hoaxes... I would very much like to see your future new drawings Cliff... whenever you make them.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2012 23:10:06 GMT -6
This could be what they look like without a suit on. Im not %100 certain that the ones I saw were wearing suits but Im starting to suspect now more than ever that they were wearing them. It makes me wonder if they were wearing them "what do they actually look like underneath" ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2012 23:38:22 GMT -6
This could be what they look like without a suit on. Im not %100 certain that the ones I saw were wearing suits but Im starting to suspect now more than ever that they were wearing them. It makes me wonder if they were wearing them "what do they actually look like underneath" ? Figures. The nudist colony would be the ones to visit me... ;D
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