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Post by auntym on May 17, 2012 12:20:58 GMT -6
cnufos.ning.com/profiles/blogs/reptiles-can-build-spaceships-tooREPTILES CAN BUILD SPACESHIPS TOO!Posted by Cnufos on May 17, 2012 Submitted by Chris Holly on Tue, 05/15/2012 I have read only a few postings on the internet concerning the idea that our cosmic neighbors may be highly intelligent creatures equal at least to humans. Among the postings I was able to find I came across many viewpoints of the condescending approach insulting the readers for the very idea of contemplating such a ridiculous idea. One article actually went to extreme limits by suggesting it impossible to think any creature of the dinosaur origin would not be able to build or fly UFOs with their huge bodies and tiny little claw like arms. I thought that remark was as possible as any human being that stunted intellectually to make such a ridiculous comment. Not only is that insulting it is simply insulting to think that people are that incapable of thinking past the idiotic remarks made in the posting. If we developed as we have along the chain of life on earth wouldn't it be probable if not logical that life forms could have developed from their natural surroundings in a manner that worked in another type of environment? If we developed in body structure to a state that was conducive for continued development of our species why would anyone thing that the same thing is not happening in the Universe in different ways in different environments? One thing that seems to be clear about mankind is that we seem to be stuck in very tight boxes that clamps down hard when new thinking is required in order to advance. We tend to think that since our primitive knowledge does not have answers we should laugh off what we do not know and block out advancement. CONTINUE READING: cnufos.ning.com/profiles/blogs/reptiles-can-build-spaceships-too MORE CONTINUE READING, CHRIS HOLLEY'S BLOGSPOT: endlessjrny.blogspot.com/
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2012 12:28:36 GMT -6
Well it seems to me that if races evolve with appendages to use tools..any of them might hold a child, build a ship or an airplane or a flying saucer. However..we keep missing one little point that lately has been bugging me. Just because they might walk upright and be able to 'build' doesn't mean they're not aggressive and interested in acquisition..of goods or slaves. Don't know about you..but mining salt on some far away rock doesn't have a lot of appeal for me
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Post by plutronus on May 17, 2012 16:58:00 GMT -6
Well it seems to me that if races evolve with appendages to use tools..any of them might hold a child, build a ship or an airplane or a flying saucer. However..we keep missing one little point that lately has been bugging me. Just because they might walk upright and be able to 'build' doesn't mean they're not aggressive and interested in acquisition..of goods or slaves. Don't know about you..but mining salt on some far away rock doesn't have a lot of appeal for me :-/ Hi JoKelly, It seems you are not alone in your thinking here... A few years ago I asked scientist Dr. Frietas via e-mail what he considered to be the single most important question I could ask, regarding ET presence. He disappeared. I feared that I had scared him off with all my talk about Near Earth ET presence. A few weeks went by. One day I received an e-mail from his CalTech (famous American scientific research university in California) office address, with this reply, "When you understand the energy problem, you will have solved a major part of the alien presence puzzle." Incidentally, Robert Frietas is the theoretical physicist who 'invented' nano-technology among other things. His concepts were frequently used in the StarTrek Next Gen series. To gain a glimpse-see of Frietas thinking, see my doctrine website: - Freitas Jr., Robert A., The Search for Extraterrestrial Artifacts (SETA) www.setv.org/refs.html#1- Freitas, R. A., The Search for Extraterrestrial Artifacts (SETA) www.setv.org/refs.html#2- Freitas Jr., Robert A., A Self-Reproducing Interstellar Probe www.setv.org/refs.html#3- Freitas Jr., Robert A., Interstellar Probes: A New Approach to SETI www.setv.org/refs.html#4- Freitas, R. A., The Case for Interstellar Probes www.setv.org/refs.html#5- Freitas, R. A., Extraterrestrial Intelligence in the Solar System: Resolving the Fermi Paradox www.setv.org/refs.html#6- Freitas, R. A., and Valdes, F., A Search for Natural or Artificial Objects Located at the Earth-Moon Libration Points www.setv.org/refs.html#7- Freitas, R. A., and Valdes, F., A Search for Objects Near the Earth-Moon Lagrangian Points www.setv.org/refs.html#8- Valdes, F., and Freitas, R. A., Comparison of Reproducing and Non-Reproducing Starprobe Strategies for Galactic Exploration www.setv.org/refs.html#9- Freitas, R. A. Jr., If They Are Here, Where Are They? Observational and Search Considerations www.setv.org/refs.html#10- Freitas, R. A, Jr. There Is No Fermi Paradox www.setv.org/refs.html#11
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Post by sunbow on May 17, 2012 17:10:25 GMT -6
I think it is logical to assume that economic gain (goods, slaves, or genetic resources) would be a motivating factor for many races. While metals and other physical resources abound in the asteroid belt and other lifeless planets, slaves (servants, pets, exotics for the zoo) and genetic resources do not.
Another factor is information, which can have a large value. Perhaps they are mining data (evolutionary trends, feelings, thoughts) through examinations. If a race solves its economic needs, then perhaps they need things for entertainment and to feed their curiosity.
Beyond being a 'nature reserve', Earth could be an experiment or even a managed resource (farm, if you will). This would be a positive, as we would be protected from greater dangers by our owners.
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Post by sunbow on May 17, 2012 17:50:01 GMT -6
Hi plutronus:
Interesting site: SETV. Few papers available, but the rest are abstracts. Seems to have done most of its work during the 1990s and little since then, except perhaps the transmitters. I would be curious as to who the group members are and what they are now up to.
They are here in numbers and carrying out a very stealthy active projects. How many alien races and agendas is not clear from the data. Some suspect that there is a unified coalition, others that there are several races vying for dominance.
The fact that at least some of them have been here for a long time implies that whatever they are doing, they will probably go on doing for a long time. The caveat is that we are destroying biodiversity on Earth (perhaps a resource that they own), which might call for a more drastic activity that they have performed in recorded history.
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Post by skywalker on May 17, 2012 20:03:12 GMT -6
"When you understand the energy problem, you will have solved a major part of the alien presence puzzle."
Was Dr. Frietas suggesting that ETs would not be able to come here because of the amount of energy necessary to travel through space or was he saying that they would come here in order to acquire energy from us?
I personally don't think that energy would be a problem for a technologically advanced race of beings. Our own energy production becomes more efficient and effective all the time. We may not be able to travel through space now but that doesn't mean we won't have the capabilities to do it in the future. And there are plenty of stars and planets out that that could provide sources of energy. They don't need the earth for that.
I agree that their main reason for coming here would be because of the biological life that exists here. The main question is whether they would be coming to protect and observe it or to harvest and use it. Probably a little bit of both I would guess.
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Post by skywalker on May 17, 2012 20:07:45 GMT -6
I also agree with the premise that any type of life form could evolve a humanoid appearance. It doesn't have to be mammalian to do it. The dinosaurs may have been heading in that direction. If they had not been wiped out 65 million years ago it could have just as easily been the descendant of a T-Rex sitting here typing on this computer instead of this good ol' primate from Texas.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2012 20:36:11 GMT -6
Welllllll..so far our science fiction writers have done an amazing job of being fairly psychic. Most of them have taken a shot at the possibilities of life forms, space travel, alien theology and much more...making it all seem very possible and plausible. Only our own ego keeps us thinking they are going to think as we do or look as we do or behave as we do..(I sure hope not because we have some pretty tacky specimens wandering around). Best advice..if they land and you happen to be there..don't assume a smile means the same to them as to us ;D
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