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Post by auntym on Aug 10, 2012 11:37:20 GMT -6
www.ufodigest.com/node/4132 How Much Would Things Change[/color] By Ron Murdock I imagine it would be quite the shift in attitude once we make contact with life forms from other planets. I'm not saying it hasn't happened, it just may not have been made public knowledge. Like I've mentioned before who knows what NASA hasn't made public with information they have. I could think that most of humanity could be accepting of extra-terrestial contact but my main concern whether it would be peaceful or war like. The various religions may have to sit down to have a serious re-evaluation of their teachings and core beliefs. But I don't see any discovery or contact with life beyond Earth being a serious threat other than who we get in touch with. It's only been in the last four centuries that it's become common knowledge that Earth is not the center of the Universe. So some problems might need to be dealt with as we get off our high horses.But instead of thinking we're more special than thought, think of what information could be shared with friendly ET's. With all the planets that exist in all the galaxies, some would be more than capable of sustaining some form of life as we know it. I've thought for years that it's pretty vain and egotistical on our part to think Earth in the only planet to have life on it. But I don't see the walls of churches, mosques or temples crumbling as they still could be of value. The fact that we're not alone in the Universe shouldn't be that much of a shock.It's probable that most Earthlings believe in life outside on other planets but may keep quiet because of the fear of ridicule or retribution. Confirmation of discovery of life on other planets means accepting it and moving on. It doesn't make us less special, it means that we are all equally special in the eyes of whatever God is out there. CONTINUE READING: www.ufodigest.com/node/4132
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Post by randy on Aug 11, 2012 0:09:51 GMT -6
If it was made public that greys have been in contact with us, various factions in our society would vie with each other to represent earth with the aliens. China would never stand for the US representing man kind with the greys. On a whole man kind would have to realize that being simply human made other men allies now not enemies. The aliens would be a great unknown possibly hostile to all man kind. Faced with a common enemy man kind would unite in common defense. Cortez came out of the sea as a shock to the Aztecs the Aztecs were destroyed by contact with Cortez who had advanced weaponry. It was human vs human. Human vs alien is another story but it may have the same ending with superior technology winning out.
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Post by sunbow on Aug 11, 2012 8:01:54 GMT -6
I highly recommend AD: After Disclosure by Richard Dolan for an intelligent read on this topic.
The aliens might be in contact with several governments. Indeed the Chinese might be more open than the bureaucrats in Washington. In reality, the grays have been revealing themselves in a grassroots manner. They may find all governments dysfunctional to the point of skipping them.
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Post by randy on Aug 16, 2012 22:42:33 GMT -6
Based entirely on my experiences as a kid the greys had contact with the US govt prior to the mid 1950s At that time we were the number one fish in the pond and a logical choice. the greys at that point were still few in numbers and not militarily strong but they did out class us in technology. i would imagine that our govt had a collective heart attack and such people as Forrestal could not handle it and died as a result one way or another. he may have been killed to keep the secret. Didnt Doug Hammersheld (sp) head of the UN die also under questionable circumstances Its a dangerous secret to know. As far as the common people they were told nothing and remain open to random abduction. they are in the end expendable as always
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2012 23:12:37 GMT -6
Or..they just all went home because there wasn't anything here of any real value to them. Of course since there are an alleged 30 some odd varieties currently visiting planet earth they'll all have to be patient or stumble over each other ..ya got your Nordics..your reptillian...your insectoids..whatever race Han is part of that looks like but isn't the same grey's we all know and love..then there are the tiny gray's the tallllllllllll gray's and I just found this today: I really believe that we're about to be attacked by alien invaders from Betelgeuse who have been in a fierce battle for resources against Rigel. |
theologica.ning.com/forum/topics/aliens-invaders-fromThe grey's missed out ..the beatelgeusians are gonna get here first ;D
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Post by randy on Aug 16, 2012 23:37:05 GMT -6
i wish the greys were gone but I know that is not reality. to my knowledge at the surface level I have not been physically visited for some time. I do believe that I have the capacity to contact they telepathically and visa versa. they do not waste time with folksy talk. Just short specific questions at times about what I am doing and why. At times I have been given previews of the future like they know what is going to happen to me before it does. One time working on an oil rig I was think about what she would have for dinner. Being unattached at the time I was puzzled by that thought but shortly there after I was married. I cant predict horse races but some times I know what is going to happen in the future. Often I get antsy and up in the air hours before an emotional confrontation that I didnot know was coming. I have now learned to recognize this feeling and am more prepared to handle things when they happen.
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Post by plutronus on Aug 17, 2012 3:05:29 GMT -6
Based entirely on my experiences as a kid the greys had contact with the US govt prior to the mid 1950s At that time we were the number one fish in the pond and a logical choice. the greys at that point were still few in numbers and not militarily strong but they did out class us in technology. i would imagine that our govt had a collective heart attack and such people as Forrestal could not handle it and died as a result one way or another. he may have been killed to keep the secret. Didnt Doug Hammersheld (sp) head of the UN die also under questionable circumstances Its a dangerous secret to know. As far as the common people they were told nothing and remain open to random abduction. they are in the end expendable as always Hi Randy,
<<< i would imagine that our govt had a collective heart attack and such people as Forestall could not handle it and died as a result one way or another. he may have been killed to keep the secret. Didnt Doug Hammersheld (sp) head of the UN die also under questionable circumstances... >>>
And Ronald Reagan too, Star-Wars man, the guy who constructed the planetary defense shield...he also died of a brain illness.
Randy, I love your comment,"gvmnt had a collective heart-attack", I also completely agree with your observation. Its not clear that we agree on the why's, but thats ok too. It is clear to anyone paying attention that ET kill Humans, as you point out, and in my opinion, and likely yours as well, the purpose is elimination of what ET perceive as obstacles to their agenda. Their methods of killing Humans always seems to be of 'natural causes' or Human motivated, such as 'jumping out of a window', as in Forrestal's demise.
ET are known to kill us using these three common strategies:
-- Heart Attacks in our sleep, such as Corso, and countless others, (I awakened during the first attack, I was on a ship, they were attempting to kill me, by that juncture I could shield myself, --thank's to Milicent), -- Brain Illnesses, they reserve this one for those with left-hemi orientation, apparently, they can't quite get enough direct control, -- Inducing Cancer...for some reason, ET really like this one. And remember Colm Kelleher? I've mentioned this ET scientist before. He impresses me. ET Field Unit Research Director, NIDS, Robert Bigelow's group...Dr. Kelleher, cancer research scientist for John Hopkin's Cancer Research Center) Why would anyone select a cancer scientist to guide an ET (all scientists) investigation team? And this activity was only designed by one of the independently wealthiest (mommy & daddy didn't pay for anything, as in B. Gates, etc) men in the world.
Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2012 9:31:44 GMT -6
I wasn't going to add to this thread because there just isn't much to be said except...that I disagree. I don't think aliens have an agenda for the planet..I don't think they kill people. People die..it's set up to be that way. We are born..we experience..we die. Yep I had two encounters with 'aliens' (unless it was not what it seemed). I also had open heart surgery for a heart attack. Oddly enough..my families eating habits had a lot to do with this. They were poor and fed we kids..what was cheap. Good ole artery clogging southern fried cooking. Same reason the gall bladder went last month. My neighbor's brother is dying of brain cancer (kidney too). Guy has never smoked..he never drank..he never played with aliens. He was a hard working little geek. We have experiences in life and in death to grow from. I died..I had an experience..I came back. Big deal..no one listens anyway ;D All of us here....are psychic ....many are stronger than they think they are. It's not because of aliens but it could well be what attracts them in the first place. Now..my spidey sense (for want of better vernacular) has told me for years..that other entities visit us but it also tells me when this planet kicks the bucket or when mankind does..it's not going to be because of some alien agenda and it's not going to matter to US anyway..we won't be around to see the cosmic cataclysmic event. Not one of the doomsday prophecy's has been right ...no raptures..no aliens landing ..and there is a reason for that. If we knew...what was to be..we wouldn't live our lives in daily fashion as we're meant to. We'd be spending our time miserly hording gold hoping to buy off aliens wanting to have us for dinner or maybe hoping to buy a free pass from God. I have heard so many stories on these forums that are so strongly believed. Including the person who expects the aliens are constructing an indestructible body to exchange for the one she has. And who is to say she's wrong? Or is it that she is so afraid of dying, alien replacement bodies are the answer given to her. Others of our members visit aliens on astral planes all the time..friendly non invading ones..others channel aliens who say they're just observing. Are any of them real? Are any of them not real? They believe just as strongly as you and I do. I'm still tending to think...we're under the influence of some very great manipulators who are busy providing all of this information. Yep..I could be wrong but I know I'm not wrong..for me. I know the message I was given when I died during that surgery and it wasn't 'duck the aliens are taking over the world'. I hate the idea of people trying to adjust to a hard enough life worried about 'indian' uprisings. Just like everyone else..I have an opinion..and that one's mine. I could be wrong and you could be right. All of us could be right and it's all planted information. There are many explanations and most of them we don't want to peek into. I do know one thing..in my experiences..while unpleasant and terrifying..I wasn't 'harmed'...no one had me on the lunch menu..no one has sent agents to threaten me or my children. There were FBI men there that day (at a distance) or were there? No one has knocked on my door to ask me to channel little grey men either. Still it makes for interesting forum! ;D
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Post by plutronus on Aug 18, 2012 1:12:59 GMT -6
??? I wasn't going to add to this thread because there just isn't much to be said except...that I disagree. I don't think aliens have an agenda for the planet..I don't think they kill people. People die..it's set up to be that way. We are born..we experience..we die. Yep I had two encounters with 'aliens' (unless it was not what it seemed). I also had open heart surgery for a heart attack. Oddly enough..my families eating habits had a lot to do with this. They were poor and fed we kids..what was cheap. Good ole artery clogging southern fried cooking. Same reason the gall bladder went last month. My neighbor's brother is dying of brain cancer (kidney too). Guy has never smoked..he never drank..he never played with aliens. He was a hard working little geek. We have experiences in life and in death to grow from. I died..I had an experience..I came back. Big deal..no one listens anyway ;D All of us here....are psychic ....many are stronger than they think they are. It's not because of aliens but it could well be what attracts them in the first place. Now..my spidey sense (for want of better vernacular) has told me for years..that other entities visit us but it also tells me when this planet kicks the bucket or when mankind does..it's not going to be because of some alien agenda and it's not going to matter to US anyway..we won't be around to see the cosmic cataclysmic event. Not one of the doomsday prophecy's has been right ...no raptures..no aliens landing ..and there is a reason for that. If we knew...what was to be..we wouldn't live our lives in daily fashion as we're meant to. We'd be spending our time miserly hording gold hoping to buy off aliens wanting to have us for dinner or maybe hoping to buy a free pass from God. I have heard so many stories on these forums that are so strongly believed. Including the person who expects the aliens are constructing an indestructible body to exchange for the one she has. And who is to say she's wrong? Or is it that she is so afraid of dying, alien replacement bodies are the answer given to her. Others of our members visit aliens on astral planes all the time..friendly non invading ones..others channel aliens who say they're just observing. Are any of them real? Are any of them not real? They believe just as strongly as you and I do. I'm still tending to think...we're under the influence of some very great manipulators who are busy providing all of this information. Yep..I could be wrong but I know I'm not wrong..for me. I know the message I was given when I died during that surgery and it wasn't 'duck the aliens are taking over the world'. I hate the idea of people trying to adjust to a hard enough life worried about 'indian' uprisings. :( Just like everyone else..I have an opinion..and that one's mine. I could be wrong and you could be right. All of us could be right and it's all planted information. There are many explanations and most of them we don't want to peek into. I do know one thing..in my experiences..while unpleasant and terrifying..I wasn't 'harmed'...no one had me on the lunch menu..no one has sent agents to threaten me or my children. There were FBI men there that day (at a distance) or were there? No one has knocked on my door to ask me to channel little grey men either. Still it makes for interesting forum! ??? ::) ;D ;) FBI, like ET 'enforcers', don't bother anyone unless they know something.
>Still it makes for interesting forum!
True, TEOR is mainly a neighborhood coffee shop sans the crumpets, cyberspace style.
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Post by randy on Aug 18, 2012 1:13:04 GMT -6
By personnel experience when I was working for the Army I can say that the chemical paraethylphenol can mimic a heart attack and is really handy to get rid of people. Small amounts of vapor in the air conditioning are absorbed through the skin and cause heart and lung paralysis. you have to specifically test for it to find it. With this in mind it is easy for the govt to get rid of people who are a problem. We are talking the world as a the prize to the winner. It is a complex game and there are many players who are not publicly known being govt agencies and splinter groups that are secret. Motivated by various ideals including lust for power and genuine partriotism they fight among themselves. The greys are real and they are a secret player with sinister motivation. They do control people very effectively. This should not be big news given the common stage acts involving hypnotic suggestion in which people are told to silly things on cue. With this in mind the greys telling people to do things on cue is just an alien version of the same thing. I have had MIB at my door but they were wearing out of date military uniforms and were caught on that by my father. MIB were at my sisters door examining her door lock when they thought that no one was home. the guards in plain tan clothes when by home was being built were govt of some kind. the young guy wanted a trafsfer if you recall. The common person is totally expendable for the common good as they define it. That is the reality of things
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Post by skywalker on Aug 18, 2012 10:43:11 GMT -6
If any of those mysterious deaths did have any outside help I would suspect humans before aliens. The government would do anything to maintain control...and its secrets.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2012 14:37:22 GMT -6
I'd definitely agree with that.
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Post by swamprat on Aug 18, 2012 15:34:45 GMT -6
I agree with plutronus. Sky, you need to start providing Starbucks.....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2012 17:46:55 GMT -6
Nods...instead of MUFON we could be MUFIN ;D Make mine a double latte skinny..hold the whipped cream
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Post by paulette on Aug 18, 2012 18:12:25 GMT -6
Re: paraethylphenol. A brief search says that a major source is the smoke of tobacco cigarettes. Obviously if it was found (if anyone looked) it would be an "expected chemical" for this reason. Also it a a precursor chemical with industrial uses (making varnish, an undesireable product of brewing when the spoilage yeast gets in). And it has a SHORT shelf life. No doubt, there are many almost indetectable ways of killing people. We don't need aliens to tell us how.
I haven't read AD and that is probably something I should do. I do think that the world would be shaken to the core. The spin doctors would get busy (perhaps alien, like the TV show V) and definitely the gov'ment boys. We would be told how good it was and some candy would be tossed to the crowd. (Like the show V).
If they are here (some of the list of who might be here) then they are wise NOT to appear to be in alliance with any one government. Give the odd leader a ride on the ship maybe, hand out some nice samples but stay out of sight. Find out what they need to know by monitoring our broadcasts (of all sorts) and do the odd physical testing on unimportant people. Check to see that people's adversion to be seen as crazy (such as commercial pilots, policemen, etc) is still holding. Carry on with whatever they are doing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2012 18:27:26 GMT -6
Sounds about right
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