WHY SOME PEOPLE CAN SEE THE DEAD

[auntym]

Condition Makes You 'See' the Dead
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This has nothing to do with mediums or psychics -- this is actually a medical condition that a doctor says shouldn't be feared.


Description:Neurologist Oliver Sacks discusses the complex phenomenon of hallucinations in the human brain. Though it sounds frightening and maybe a bit hard to believe, Dr. Sacks explains that over half of mourners often gain the ability to see or feel their dead loved ones. Far from scary, he says it's a very common condition. (1:37)

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[paulette]

It's OK as long as you believe that it isn't "real". Well....leaving aside for the moment what IS real, what if one really can hear or see or talk to dead people? My daughter recently went to a medium who HAD NEVER SEEN HER OR HER FRIEND BEFORE and nailed VERY PERSONAL details of her life. She called me in shock. The medium (perhaps talking to my daughter's father) deduced that: 1. she had come to talk to her father/ her mother was alive (this before she said ANYTHING). 2. That there were two sets of children/that she had older half sibs. 3. The difficulties ALL the sibs were in 4. That her father had had a hard dying and had been inaccessible to my daughter (weird but true, the older siblings shut my kids out of his room). 5. That she needed to leave Calgary eventually (she has been calling it "home" for 8 years). 6. That she would have a daughter after she took some schooling to provide a constant source of income. (we'll see about the last one). She was PANTING on the phone and saying, "How did she know!" Pretty exact hallucination I'd say.

[Deleted]

I hallucinated one time and heard this guys voice call my name right from the back room I was in as I was turning the light off and exiting and later found out that a guy had just committed suicide about a week or two prior to that happening right before we had moved in. I had never had any hallucinations about ghosts before that event. I was in my 20's.

Yep. I hallucinated another time too,(both me and my 5 year old daughter at the time), and saw a foggy figure shaped sort of like a person come through the back door which was open and then the recliner started rocking at the corner of my eyes. I then looked right at it and it stopped and started rocking again and then this bead came out from nowhere and flew right at me and hit the floor and when I looked down at it, it popped back up by itself and went airborne again and landed on my chest.

Recently I had another hallucination while sitting at the computer when everyone else was asleep and saw the bathroom door move and heard it too. It then moved again and I heard the handle turn and saw it move too. I then heard 3 sounds like a musical toy. When I checked to see if one of my grandbabies was in there it was empty. Darned hallucinations I tell ya.

[Deleted]

I think it's more simple than that. Everything in life has an energy vibration including the planet we live on. I think that the vibration rate of some people is different, higher perhaps putting them closer to the vibration rate of the spiritual. Those people I think...see things others cannot because they fall within their vision. They see ghosts or hear angels or other creatures that vibrate in a higher range. Perhaps some see fairies or other so called 'mythological' beings. People who are more 'psychic' may have a higher 'frequency' that allows a different range of 'seeing' or 'hearing'. And that..could also be what attracts 'aliens' to study them. Maybe UFO's are designed to vibrate at a different frequency and are not observed by most. I also believe that this rate of vibration can be changed. I know when I meditate..clear my mind and work at it (softly) I pick up much more than I do when charging through life with a cluttered brain

[paulette]

Jokelly I think you are onto something...

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Nov 7, 2012 15:36:19 GMT -6 @jokelly said:

I think it's more simple than that. Everything in life has an energy vibration including the planet we live on. I think that the vibration rate of some people is different, higher perhaps putting them closer to the vibration rate of the spiritual. Those people I think...see things others cannot because they fall within their vision. They see ghosts or hear angels or other creatures that vibrate in a higher range. Perhaps some see fairies or other so called 'mythological' beings. People who are more 'psychic' may have a higher 'frequency' that allows a different range of 'seeing' or 'hearing'. And that..could also be what attracts 'aliens' to study them. Maybe UFO's are designed to vibrate at a different frequency and are not observed by most. I also believe that this rate of vibration can be changed. I know when I meditate..clear my mind and work at it (softly) I pick up much more than I do when charging through life with a cluttered brain

I thought the first incident was my neighbor who just wasn't ready to leave yet after thinking about it for several years. The second incident I thought was my dad, especially since I was forewarned by a cousin by marriage who told me it most likely would happen since it happened to him. After the visit happened followed by the sightings and other little odd happenings here and there I then started considering that maybe all of this was alien related. I then had that incident recently.

I don't know what to think or what to believe,,,,seriously,,, what am I suppose to think or believe ? There are times when I wonder if I'm losing it. If others wouldn't have been present during some of the events that happened in my life I would really be seriously concerned.

I am just a little bit crazy,,, but I think that it's in a good way,,, or so I've been told. I think a person has to be just a little bit in order to survive on this planet at times,,,,

[casper]

What makes that docter so sure that these hallucinations are just hallucinations? They sound like ghosts to me. If somebody just died then their spirit will still be hanging around for a while and it might want to visit some of the people that it used to know. That's not a hallucination. That's what you call a "ghost".

[casper]

Nov 7, 2012 14:05:58 GMT -6 @touched said:

I hallucinated one time and heard this guys voice call my name right from the back room I was in as I was turning the light off and exiting and later found out that a guy had just committed suicide about a week or two prior to that happening right before we had moved in. I had never had any hallucinations about ghosts before that event. I was in my 20's.

Yep. I hallucinated another time too,(both me and my 5 year old daughter at the time), and saw a foggy figure shaped sort of like a person come through the back door which was open and then the recliner started rocking at the corner of my eyes. I then looked right at it and it stopped and started rocking again and then this bead came out from nowhere and flew right at me and hit the floor and when I looked down at it, it popped back up by itself and went airborne again and landed on my chest.

Recently I had another hallucination while sitting at the computer when everyone else was asleep and saw the bathroom door move and heard it too. It then moved again and I heard the handle turn and saw it move too. I then heard 3 sounds like a musical toy. When I checked to see if one of my grandbabies was in there it was empty. Darned hallucinations I tell ya.

Those all sound like ghosts to me. Seeing a ghost isn't a hallucination. It would only be a hallucination of the ghost wasn't really there.

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I don't think for a minute they are hallucinations Casper..he just can't see them so that's the only explanation he has.

[skywalker]

I just watched that video and I noticed that the doc dude said that migraines can cause hallucinations. The thought that popped into my head is could a ghost or spirit cause migraines? If ghosts really are electrical energy like some ghost hunters claim (and I think they definitely are some type of energy) and the brain runs on electrical impulses then would the addition of the spiritual energy from the ghost be enough to disrupt or overload the brain to the point where it has a migraine?

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Nov 8, 2012 15:33:08 GMT -6 skywalker said:

I just watched that video and I noticed that the doc dude said that migraines can cause hallucinations. The thought that popped into my head is could a ghost or spirit cause migraines? If ghosts really are electrical energy like some ghost hunters claim (and I think they definitely are some type of energy) and the brain runs on electrical impulses then would the addition of the spiritual energy from the ghost be enough to disrupt or overload the brain to the point where it has a migraine?

Yes. Not migraines, per sec, but a type of pressure or tension headache that can make a migraine sufferer reach for his/her meds early. I believe in a sensitive person it is more than a "cold chill" or hairs standing up on your arms.

I'm always talking about why barometers aren't so readily available these days (yeah, the internet has them). But maybe I need another type of instrument?

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Nov 9, 2012 8:14:41 GMT -6 jcurio said:

I'm always talking about why barometers aren't so readily available these days (yeah, the internet has them). But maybe I need another type of instrument?

For years many scientists and doctors didn't accept or understand why people with broken bones or past injuries could feel nearby storm systems and figured it was most likely a psychosomatic disorder. I spoke with my Pain Specialist about this because there are times I can feel them and he and his RN told me that it is now proven that barometric pressure reacts on scar tissue damage.

There may come a day when this ghost or ET phenomena is finally acknowledged also. Time will tell. It is my spiritual belief according to Biblical documentation that confirms the presence of spirits. I believe also that if my interpretations are correct from scripture that alien beings are also mentioned but out of respect for the forums sake and to not bring up conflict I won't go in depth with this.

If anyone would like to discuss it, I would be happy to through a p.m.

Cliff

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I'm going back to the main statement, "Why some people can see the dead", and your reply (#2), Cliff.

I agree with Casper that you most likely were not hallucinating on those occasions. But you weren't SEEING the "dead", IMO, but the effects on material, worldy objects, which anyone could have witnessed. If we were talking about HEARING only, and things in our reality plane did not move, I think that would fit in with being the type of person who sees ghostly apparations.

As for your recent comments on biblical standppoints, those are still open to interpretation .

I may lump the subject of aliens in with paranormal phenomenon, but I don't think that aliens are "spirits".

I like the way you said about "respect for the forum", Cliff. And I can admit that my thoughts on "spirits" may pertain to my understanding of the Bible, and other books I have read. There are a lot of experiences that have been detailed, and a lot of people also feel that they have been given outright revelations of the spirit world, without having a "paranormal experience". The difference to me, is a revelation has the potential to be called a religious experience, when we don't normally call an object moving in front of our very eyes a religious experience. A statue of Mary, weeping tears, for example, is a "movement" in this reality plane that people go from calling a "paranormal event" to a religious event because of the object used. This is why the Church ( and I'm talking the Catholic establishment) goes to great lengths to prove and classify both experiences and revelations. Just think if we cold use the Freedom of Information Act on them! ;D

My point is here, that an ordinary object moving in front of a lay person (non-religious is what I mean), could actually be construed as a religious experience, intended (or ALLOWED) by G_d, for that individual.

So again, everything falls under the belief that everything was created by G_d, but has free will .

If I can express an opinion like that, can I go on to give my opinion about "ghosts"? ;D

We don't know what they are, so that's all I have; an opinion. Even if we humans think we are able to get more physical readings (scientific) on them than the elusive aliens .

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Nov 5, 2012 13:24:38 GMT -6 paulette said:

The medium (perhaps talking to my daughter's father) . . . .

Why do you think the medium got her information from your daughter's dead father?

[paulette]

Nov 10, 2012 13:06:47 GMT -6 jcurio said:

Nov 5, 2012 13:24:38 GMT -6 paulette said:

The medium (perhaps talking to my daughter's father) . . . .

Why do you think the medium got her information from your daughter's dead father?

Well....my daughter went to a medium without telling her WHO she wanted to talk to. And the woman came out on her porch, pointed at my daughter (who had come with a friend) and said, "Get in here, your father is here."

My daughter had not had closure/goodbye with her Dad before he died. I had no idea how that still pained her. I got it though when she was weeping on the phone talking about being told that he was come when she asked him to and that he loved her.

My daughter also was told things she didn't have a lot of information about - like details about her older half brother. Interestingly, I had lunch with my daughter's half sister this week and she told ME things I hadn't known about her brother. So I could not have told my daughter, and she would not have known. This family had been shattered by events I'm not going into now in 1995. People were not talking to each other anyway before that. There were secrets...

The medium also said she had a grandmother or great grandmother who was German and had come a long way to drop in to see my daughter - that she was OK and happy. Jessica had no way of knowing this, but my paternal German grandmother died 2 weeks BEFORE I was born - but she had made me beautiful hand knitted blankets. My mother used to tell me, she loved me and had wanted to see me.

The medium correctly identified that I was alive. So...it all was plausible to me. And to her.

[Deleted]

Thank You, Paulette.

I'll reveal that I'm mostly under the belief that there is a flowing record of all of our lives, and that some people are given the gift to "see" certain details, when necessary.

However, when there are "true" cases where a healing needs to take place, for the good of everyone involved, I wonder if an actual passed on individual is allowed to come visit.

Please excuse me. I mean no offense.

It could be as easy as your daughter being guided to this medium, and her dad was told to be there and was able to. That was where it was planned to happen. And as you have said, other pieces are filling in just this week.

I'd like to think that this is a small part of G_ds mercy an d grace; that He meets us where we can accept things, in our timing.

But to me, it also means that most likely your daughters father has not been reincarnated. Which is a part and parcel about wondering what happens to us when we die.

[paulette]

I've wondered about that part too jcurio - whether its essential to go into the light and out the rabbit hole, or birth canal into another life. I've decided (for the moment) that time is different for disembodied souls. That they could "come back" to finish something while also continuing on with whatever else a soul does. My personal experience is that friends that pass are accessible for awhile and then fade. Can they come back? As long as someone calls them I think. But afterwhile, no one does.

After this posting I dreamed of my ex (my daughter's father). I was trying to get to the ferry but ended up on a road that dead-ended into the sea. He came along with his pickup truck and drove me where I needed to go - but I had to walk on alone the last part. I asked me what would happen to his truck and he laughed and said that now trucks don't much matter to him. He was just doing me a favor in a familiar form and way.

I do think that when I get on that ferry I'll be going across. It would appear that I'm traveling towards that - but aren't we all?

[Deleted]

A reincarnation theory is that we choose what we want to experience from incarnation to incarnation. We choose what experiences, what lessons we need or want to round out our 'education'. Not life from moment to moment but calculated to be born into a life that would be guaranteed to produce the desired experiences. I think when it's all said and done and we go 'home' we'll remember that we are all conncected and connected to the universe as strongly as each other. Stars and planets are predictive..because we're created from the same stuff...molded by the same hand. From life to life we may interact with others we've interacted before time and again...in different roles. Mom one life..sister another. It can also explain why 'God' allows bad things to happen. It's a rule..once a soul as decided it's course..it can't be altered. Naturally we don't remember our goal (or we wouldn't live the life spontaneously as necessary)..and it really seems unfair to the one doing the living (especially if you've chosen to experience Auschwitz) If you think about the base pattern of your life...maybe you'll see it. I'm a small woman who's father intimidated into a major worrier and psychic enough to keep me with one foot in this world..one foot in the other. The kind of woman who needs..cuddling and to be taken care of..to be held and reassured that everything will be fine. So what happened? I'm the one who does the reassuring..the caring for..the bread earning and the worrying for everyone else. There never was that one great man to take those burdens on. I'm guessing my life lesson was just that. I have some big indicators that this is so. I see images sometimes of past lives on other faces. Ah well..maybe once I was wealthy and spoiled

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Nov 11, 2012 15:24:05 GMT -6 paulette said:

I've wondered about that part too jcurio - whether its essential to go into the light and out the rabbit hole, or birth canal into another life. I've decided (for the moment) that time is different for disembodied souls. That they could "come back" to finish something while also continuing on with whatever else a soul does.

Yeah, I try to rationalyze that I don't know all the "rules".

;D

[Deleted]

The more I read of other visits or abductions the more I see a link involved with ghost or paranormal encounters. At first I thought it was just happening to me or a select few, but it seems to be more common then that as I continue to look into other cases. I'm not surprised.

I'm not concluding ,,, just saying. I'm still 'up in the air' or ' on the fence ' about all of this as I haven't the slightest clue as to what is going on. I've come to terms of reasoning that I probably never will.

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I dont think we know any of the rules

[skywalker]

I believe rule number one is...there are no rules.

[paulette]

Nov 12, 2012 17:41:51 GMT -6 skywalker said:

I believe rule number one is...there are no rules.

LIKE!!!

[Deleted]

Speaking of seeing dead people... I saw Dad yesterday when I went to the grocery store.

I saw him sitting in the passenger seat of his car out of the corner of my eye- but when I turned my head the seat was empty...

[paulette]

For me - its always corner of the eye or heard.

[Deleted]

But we're talking about the "dead" here. As in, someone that was once alive and known on this Earth.

I'm glad someone is finally saying that there are no rules.
;D

(In regards to the ufo phenomenon, That drove me nuts on the other forum; with all the talk about what things can and cannot do. According to some "laws" of our physical plane. And emotional agreements that no one remembers making.)

Of course You don't know everyone that I know, and I don't know everyone that You know, so if I see something that appears like a wisp of a person, and I don't recognize them, why would I immediately assume that this is that person's ghost? And again, I am talking about a ghost in reference to someone that was once alive.

I just need some sort of rule here. Please . That if we are talking about "seeing the dead", then whatever we are seeing was once alive. Can I repeat myself again?

Cliff's casual referencing here into aliens and abductions bothers me . I have already acknowledged that my lifetime of paranormal activities involves these Visitors, and whatever agenda (or not) that "they" have.

As for lumping other paranormal stories into the Ufo phenomenon, I can see that, and I understand that thought process.

There is more than one major story in ufo legend, where supposedly someone's dead relative was in the Visitor event. Either as a comfort, or an actual part of the agony of a "bad" abduction.

And unfortunately, because there are no rules, someone could think that their nice, kindly grandfather has come back "from the dead" as some sinister prop helping the aliens?

[Deleted]

Blah, blah, blah. Obviously this is a sensitive area for me ;D.

But I don't say I see "aliens" out of the corners of my eyes. If I hear a bump noise on my roof, I'm thinking "alien", not "ghostie". If I hear footsteps coming into the kitchen and no one is there, I'm thinking "ghost". Then it might be, "who's ghost, and what do they want?"

Ghosts, good and bad, fit into that realm of biblical language of what happens to us when we die. (to me).

Then there are the "ghosts" that seem to repeat the same behavior over and over, as if they are stuck, or it's just some sort of vibration (or energy) left over.

Footsteps sounding as if they are coming into my kitchen, heard by both my daughter and I at different times, seem to be this type of leftover vibration, because nothing more ever happens. It's still creepy.

Then we have things like alcoholic beverages being called "spirits".

Ugh.

Recently I was commenting on the thread about "ghosts" in the lighthouse in Florida. I believe the man when he said that at one point he was shoved. Ok, which one of you guys' dead relatives is hanging out in the lighthouse ?. . . and what seems to have followed his daughter to her home from there one day?

IMO, there are "things" out there, that are opportunist. Is that always a bad thing? Can some people see the "dead", but they don't see, for example, elementals or ufos?

[paulette]

I think this is an interesting post - thanks for speaking your piece jcurio.

Here's my take on things: (ahem) Sometimes its hard to say what one is dealing with.

Many of the faerie stories could be translated to "Visitors" and be equally believable (maybe wrong word - consistent?). Lights in the forest, a person follows them hoping to be lead to safety but end up out on the moors or in the forest, frightened, with no help. Or, watching beings of some sort doing something in a circle. Or, kidnapped and having a confused sense of drinking too much, partying overnight but rejoining one's life decades later.

Many children have "imaginary friends" and many of these no doubt are imaginary but perhaps not all. If so, what else might they be? Greys, faeries, ghosts???

Then there are the stories of guardian angels and also fairy godmothers (both intervene and are beneign).

Ghosts and spirits: ahhhhh. Many of these are reported by people who don't know whoever it was they think they saw. Random bumps in the nights and floating figures in B&Bs or old castles. But some as recognizable as a dear one who has (perhaps) come to say goodbye or offer comfort or even advice or a request. (like find the person who killed me). Some are frightening and hostile and seem to want to make tenants in "their house" vacate it. (These predominate on TV right now).

Could a screen memory involve a dear departed? On Mufon there was a woman (sorry I don't remember her name- she ended up co-running UFOmania) who talked about seeing her grandfather in her room but then realizing it was not really him and then seeing the large black eyes etc.

I guess the rule I go by is: if I feel I am in contact with some entity, I don't assume I know who or what it is or what's going to happen next. I guess that was the part that chilled me about Steve's experiement with Han. Han supposedly said (basically) that he and his were good guys and definitely wouldn't kidnap or terrorize humans but that others (who might resemble him) did. My spidey sense was that while that was reassuring, I had no reason to believe anything he said. Perhaps Steve, being in some sort of physic link, had more to go on. What was so IMO was that Steve was in touch with something (or he was imagining the whole thing) and that we too, by being here (and findable) and also in Steve's mind were findable if a superior entity wanted to. I can almost imagine - the alien investigator has had him/her funds cuts but needs to do a follow-up on contactees. What better place than HERE!!!

OK. I'll get down and fold up my soap box now.

[Deleted]

Thank you, Paulette.

There's got to be some way to differentiate.

Any ideas?

For example,

1) Some things can be photographed.

2) Some things like to be seen.
or some things do not want to be seen.

3) Some things take you, and bring you back.

I don't know; it might be easier to first say how these different things are so much alike, which Paulette started listing.

And then, she brought up "Han". Our friend asked to be hypnotized, not to recall something that happened to him and he could barely remember, but to get in contact with someone. Hypnotizing is used for all kinds of reasons, and our friend was reassured that this could be done. Something was contacted, and "han" brought his friends along, too. We knew of weekly contact. Was that contact abruptly stopped?

I'm still waiting for some sort of results from that. . . . no rush.

Meanwhiles, I'm keeping "aliens" and "ghosts" apart.

Help me think of more things. . . aha! Thought of another one!

Ghosts are transparent and we can walk right thru them.

Aliens have been known to seem to come thru walls, but has anyone walked thru an alien? (or. . punched one ;D)

[sunbow]

I also keep ghosts and aliens separate. Aliens occasionally leave marks on a body after missing time. Yes, reports of hitting them exist (www.travis-walton.com/aliens.html), humans being given to fear and not diplomacy, especially under duress.

Ghosts are not always visible, sometimes they are auditory, often they are a tactile gut sense of presence. If course in many cases, unless you know someone and recognize the image or voice, you cannot say it is a ghost. Then again, even if you do recognize it, is it really them?

No rules, but at the same time, we must pay close attention to our feelings at the time. The perceptions are secondary to the inner sensing of what energy is being sensed. This is where a calm clear mind which can step aside is essential, because if the mind starts to race, it is obscuring the inner perceptions that we need to pay attention to.