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Post by bogey on Dec 17, 2012 17:26:45 GMT -6
Well here it goes. I hate talking about this, but I'm like everyone else here, looking for answers.
It was July 1996, My Ex-wife and I just went to bed around 10:45 pm in my 34 foot motor home. We were staying at a small campground just east of Jackson Tenn. Things were normal until around 11pm. I saw some bright lights outside shining inside the bedroom that is located in the back of the RV. I made a comment to my wife, but she was fast asleep. I was surprised for we just went to bed; she was out. My dog (a Toy Poodle) started jumping on me and was barking a lot. He was making circle motions on my belly looking and looking down the hallway. I tried to sit up, but I couldn't move. My dog suddenly stopped and was looking up wagging his tail and had he tongue out like he was happy. I couldn't see around the corner to see what my dog was looking at. What ever it was, it was standing right over him. I yelled to my wife, but she was still sleeping. I was completely paralyzed. My dog was looking back and forth at me and what ever was around the corner. I yelled for my wife, she was out. Then with a blink of an eye, it was 8 am. My wife was up cooking breakfast. I got up feeling like I got beat up and had no sleep. She commented that it seemed like a strange night. Then things got real strange. Every battery in the motor home was dead. My two deep cell RV batteries, my two house batteries, all the flashlights, brand new batteries still in the pack were all dead. Our watches stopped around 11:00 ( I can't remember the exact time) and the batteries also were dead. I'm still trying to figure out what happened that night. My Ex-wife is convinced still today that I was taken that night and many other nights. Many other things have happened to me since then. This is very hard for me to talk about. Like I said in my other two postings here, I'm not looking for attention, just answers. I feel I'm risking a lot by posting this, but I'm tired of being scared to go to bed each night.
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Post by skywalker on Dec 17, 2012 20:26:12 GMT -6
That sounds very much like a classic of an abduction...or a classic case of sleep paralysis. I think that all of the dead batteries would argue against the sleep paralysis. It actually sounds very similar to what I experienced back in 1988.
Kind of interesting that the little dog was not affected by the paralysis and that it actually seemed to be happy. Excited maybe?
What did the bright lights look like, bogey? Can you describe them to me a little better?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2012 1:49:50 GMT -6
Yea... what color were the lights? ~hugggzzz bogey~ Don't worry. Nobody will know who you really are on this forum...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2012 2:19:25 GMT -6
There have been lots of reports of people who have been abducted who say that their spouse is asleep and no matter how much they try they are unable to wake them up...
I also had a recurring nightmare from when I was a kid where I would run into my parents' room and try to wake them up in a panicked state and I couldn't get them to wake up to help me...
I also would lay in bed at night and worry about "monsters" coming to get me. I always got nervous when everyone else in the house was asleep except me. Always. I still do as a matter of fact... It's like the "monsters" only come when everyone else is asleep... I always feel better when I'm nervous at night and I am able to wake someone up... it's like a reassurance. If someone else in the house is awake besides me I'm OK if that makes any sense...
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Post by plutronus on Dec 18, 2012 2:48:50 GMT -6
Well here it goes. I hate talking about this, but I'm like everyone else here, looking for answers. It was July 1996, My Ex-wife and I just went to bed around 10:45 pm in my 34 foot motor home. We were staying at a small campground just east of Jackson Tenn. Things were normal until around 11pm. I saw some bright lights outside shining inside the bedroom that is located in the back of the RV. I made a comment to my wife, but she was fast asleep. I was surprised for we just went to bed; she was out. My dog (a Toy Poodle) started jumping on me and was barking a lot. He was making circle motions on my belly looking and looking down the hallway. I tried to sit up, but I couldn't move. My dog suddenly stopped and was looking up wagging his tail and had he tongue out like he was happy. I couldn't see around the corner to see what my dog was looking at. What ever it was, it was standing right over him. I yelled to my wife, but she was still sleeping. I was completely paralyzed. My dog was looking back and forth at me and what ever was around the corner. I yelled for my wife, she was out. Then with a blink of an eye, it was 8 am. My wife was up cooking breakfast. I got up feeling like I got beat up and had no sleep. She commented that it seemed like a strange night. Then things got real strange. Every battery in the motor home was dead. My two deep cell RV batteries, my two house batteries, all the flashlights, brand new batteries still in the pack were all dead. Our watches stopped around 11:00 ( I can't remember the exact time) and the batteries also were dead. I'm still trying to figure out what happened that night. My Ex-wife is convinced still today that I was taken that night and many other nights. Many other things have happened to me since then. This is very hard for me to talk about. Like I said in my other two postings here, I'm not looking for attention, just answers. I feel I'm risking a lot by posting this, but I'm tired of being scared to go to bed each night. Bogey,
Battery exhaustion is commonly reported when certain types of ET mecha are nearby, however, you are describing multiple types of battery phenomenon which is not typically reported in the sighting reports that I've reviewed. It is generally not commonly known, but wet-cell oxygen cycle batteries (such as lead-acid batteries, golf-cart deep-discharge and automobile engine start batteries) exhibit apparent energy depletion during the active period of a contact event and will remain so for a short period after ET mecha (apparently) retires from the area. However, the wet cell batteries always return to normal electrical generation and typically at their previous charge state. It is the 'dry' cell technology batteries, such as alkaline, NiCd and NiMH batteries that typically become fully depleted, and thus become unusable. This modality may be a characteristic in how the battery function normally rather than being a characteristic of the phenomenon. Although certain manufacturer brands due to fabrication differences actually will 'recover' after a short period, but typically, not all the brands will do so.
There are apparently multi-phenomenon transpiring in these electrical phenomenon events, but which are merged together as though are the same:
1) is the loss of the electrical circuit ability to commute electron/ion flow, (thought to be caused by an intense multi-spectral electromagnetic field presence which is believed to temporarily scramble by randomizing the molecular polarization in the ciruit and the electrical conduits), 2) a Scharwtzchild 'radius' phenomenon, whereby a gravitational 'field' alters the time metric flow of electrical conductivity. This later point is extremely difficult to acquire useful information.
An example of these two issues was experienced directly by me. In my parent's car on the Highway to White Sands Missile Range (where Mom worked), in 1965. The flying-saucer that hovered over us (daylight), caused our car motor to stop running. The Bonneville station-wagon was parked on the shoulder of the road while my brother took a tinkle in the bushes. In that period of my teens, I was studying to be a general-class ham-radio-operator. I was quite proficient in solid-state semiconductor electronics and I always had radio-gear & VOM/Voltmeters with me anyplace I went. (I was a 'Harold' as JoKelly is known to say.) At 15, one never knew when one might need to measure something!!
When the saucer retired from our area, a short time later after the initial shock wore off, Mom attempted to restart the car. There appeared to be no electrical activity, and the car radio which was playing prior to the arrival of the Lazar style appearance disc had also become silent during the event, while the ignition-key-switch was still in the engine-run position, meaning that the electrical system would normally be energized by both the generator (before alternators became standard) and the connected battery circuit. But the car was absolutely 'dead' by all normal appearances. I did a quick check of the battery condition by pulling on the head-light switch and then peering inside the headlight bulb at the front of the car. Being daylight, I cupped my hands around the lamp-assembly and squinted, there was no perceptible light. So I got out my trusty Micronta VOM (Volt-Ohm-Meter) and did a quick check of the battery. It registered ZERO Volts!!! Even today, one may take a battery that has been sitting for months if not years and one may still read some Voltage, however small a magnitude. My VOM had a 100 Milli-Volt scale and it read ZERO!! It was as though the battery were shorted. Very strange. I've learned that if one were to place ice-cubes (properly molded) into the acid bath in each of the cells of a lead-acid battery, within a few minutes, the battery electrolye will lose its ability to conduct ions through the sulfuric acid electrolyte, thereby causing the battery to appear fully depleted, yet as soon as the electrolyte becomes sufficiently warm, the battery will come back to life, and at the prior charge state. (I learned this trick at an unscroupulous gas-station I ventured into, that wanted to sell me a very expensive used battery, while I was traveling cross-country working as a military contract-engineer).
Ad rem, after about 30 minutes, our car radio, which had not been turned off, the attached loud-speaker began making noises. Later, I determined, that it was a hybrid radio, in which half of the circuit utilized high-Voltage vacuum tubes for the RF circuits and the low frequency sections employed CBS transistors. I mention this, as part of the radio's power-supply employed a vibrator style DC to AC inverter/rectifier switching-strategy. The metal vibrator core was determined to have become permanently magnetized, and was unable to 'vibrate' the coil interrupter-switch contacts, and so the tube portion of the radio circuit did not have the requisite high-voltage (+250 Vdc) to function, while the transistors worked directly on the 12 Volts generated by the wet-cell battery, so when the car-battery returned to 'normal' the radio made noises but did not receive stations. The information suggests that our car was subjected to an intense electromagnetic field of sufficient strength to magnetize the vibrator assembly rendering it non-functional. However, there remain multiple mysteries in this 'fact' as well.
In any case the wet-cell battery recovered to full functionality, while the dry cells inside my VOM was fully depleted. This was a bummer, as at the time I tried unsuccessfully to measure the resistance of the wet-cell battery cables. Using those old style VOMs on the resistance setting, one was required to 'zero' or 'null' the meter by shorting the test-leads together and adjusting the calibration potentiometer to set the meter movement to 'zero'. But when I did this, the Ohmmeter setting was unresponsive as the dry-cell batteries were depleted. It would have been more informative to see how the wires in the car were behaving.
The VOM alkaline batteries (2 x AAA) never did recover.
In the movie "Close Encounters" (Dr. Jacques Vallee was the ET information consultant to Spielberg), one may recall that when the craft resumed its flight path after hovering over Richard Dreyfus' panel-truck, that the engine re-started all by itself. This was not a flaw in the movie storyline, but is a commonly reported phenomenon, where the motor just stops running, with the ignition-key in 'run' and when the ET object event terminates (flies away), the engine which was not running, re'starts' as though the motor had simply stopped turning for a few moments. Its as if it were movie film, but the projector just stopped advancing the film frames, while the audience continues watching, they see the engine flywheel stop turning, giving the illusion that the motor stopped running, then later the projector starts advancing the film frames again, thereby giving the illusion that motor starts running again when in reality, all that changed was the time-flow of events stopped. Its as though time-flow-reality in the vicinity of the motor mechanism stopped advancing, and then was return to 'normal' time.
Bogey, did you attempt to re-check the batteries later, to see if they remained depleted? Do you remember the battery types? NiCd, NiMh, LiOn, etc? Did you recharge the house batteries or replace them? What about the chassis battery? (I own a 30Ft class-A). Aside from the RV batteries, any of the other batteries rechargables? Were you able to recharge any of them to normal operation state?
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Post by bogey on Dec 18, 2012 5:49:31 GMT -6
Over the years, I have tried to rule out everything with this night. As Skywalker says "could be a classic case of sleep paralysis". I just went to bed and didn't have time to get into that deep sleep. Lorelei, the light was white and shining all through the bedroom. It was pretty bright. I was thinking that some one with a light was looking in, but I knew a lot of people at this campsite and they wouldn't do that. Car headlights wouldn't shine from that direction, so I ruled that out too. My dog was excited to see who ever was in my motor home. With the loud barking, I was surprised it didn't wake up my wife. I guess "if" it was an alien, it must have liked my dog and kept him awake. Just as I said, a very strange night. Plutronus, I find it interesting on what you said about the batteries. I did have to replace all my chassis and house batteries. They wouldn't take any new charge and was shot. I was upset for my chassis batteries were only a couple months old. That cost me some money. My RV was Pace Arrow. It was pretty nice. I was thinking like you, why would ALL my batteries of all types go bad? This also included my pick up truck that was parked beside my RV. I'm not sure if anyone else in the RV park was effected by this.
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Post by skywalker on Dec 18, 2012 7:48:34 GMT -6
What Plutronus said about a disruption of time flow causing the engines to stop and restart is something that I have been thinking myself for some time now. Time just comes to a stop all around the person who is being abducted which would make it appear that the engine quit running when in actuality it didn't. Once the flow of time continued the engine would return to running again just as if nothing had happened.
That might also explain why it is virtually impossible to wake up the people who are sleeping nearby. Actually I think it explains a lot of things about these abduction events and why they are rarely if ever witnessed by bystanders who may end up seeing nothing more than a split-second flash of light while the person being abducted may have been bathed in light for what he perceived to be several minutes.
If this is what happened in bogey's incident than the dog must have been involved somehow also.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2012 10:51:22 GMT -6
There's another possibility too..if they are dimensional beings they may be able to slip into some dimensional shift that alters time for us..as simply as moving through doorways. We can only process in the laws of relativity we understand and know..they may not be as bound by those strictures. Like watching an old sci fi movie where everything seems to be 'impossible' ..it may not be so impossible..just not understood. The time thing was a lot easier for me to accept than the strangeness of themselves.
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Post by bogey on Jan 27, 2013 9:50:26 GMT -6
Another strange night last night. This has been going on and on. It was 3:09 this morning, my son was screaming for me. I got up feeling really strange and disorientated and went down stairs. He was sitting up looking scared. He's 15 and not scared of anything. He told me he heard a lot of foot steps up stairs in my room (above him) and thinking someone was breaking in. He claimed he was too scared to yell at first than after a few minutes he called for me. I did the normal dad thing and said everything is OK and to go back to sleep. I checked the house, all my windows were locked and I went back to bed. At 5:30 am, I got up normally. I looked at my watch and surprised to see it was one hour and twenty minuets behind and still ticking. When I was ready to leave for work, my son told me he has been seeing a creature many times over the past two months. I'm thinking should I worry or just get use to it? There is nothing I can do.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2013 10:41:31 GMT -6
I'm not an expert Bogey and I'm sure you're not looking for sympathy but mainly answers as I am also but I am truly sorry you and your son are going through this. It is very disturbing.
The main thing I can say at this point ( I'm sure as a parent you already know) is to let your son know that you believe him and to talk with him about this. Hear him out. Let him know you are there for him no matter what. I think that is what's most important. He is going through this also and like you he does not understand. At his age(even at ours) it's a frightening and fragile situation, especially when there isn't many people either of you can turn to.
I wish I had answers but I'm sort of in the same boat (except my kids are grown up and moved out now) not knowing what to do.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2013 13:10:48 GMT -6
There are some things to try Bogey..and at the risk of coming across insensitive for not knowing your preferences...pray for protection. I think it's the only thing that has kept me safe AND sane. I know what you are feeling..so does Cliff..and several others..because we've been there. Eventually you reach that point of reaching out for answers. It's one thing to do battle on your terms..not so easy when we don't have much in common with what we are faced with..harder because you have a son to protect.
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Post by skywalker on Jan 27, 2013 19:57:15 GMT -6
When I was ready to leave for work, my son told me he has been seeing a creature many times over the past two months. What kind of creature? Can he give a description of it?
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Post by bogey on Jan 27, 2013 21:06:11 GMT -6
Two weeks ago, I came down stairs into the living room. My son was shaking and looking at the window. He was really scared. He claimed to see a very tall man looking in the window. That's all I got out of him that night. Of course, I quickly took a look outside around the house and didn't see anything. This has happen to us about 6 months ago too. Today we talked about what he saw a couple of weeks ago. The man had long arms and fingers that went down to the knee and no real face, like something was covering it. That is all I got out of him. He did say that last night it sounded like 4 or 5 people were in my room. Six months ago, the creature was short. Jokelly; we do pray allot and go to church. I'm starting to realize that there is no way to stopping this. I wake up in my bed on time for work and uninjured. I guess I can't complain too much. Like everyone else here, we want answers. Thank you all for the replies.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2013 21:43:04 GMT -6
I'm glad to hear that you pray. Our prayers are heard, and not hopeless. Sometimes, as you know, we are allowed to go thru certain things, and we just have to do the best we can. We may not know "why?", in this lifetime . I would suggest that anything (within reason) that you have been previously forbidden to view, be discovered anew, with caution. This may be as simple as purchasing some books that you normally wouldn't. It doesn't mean that you take the views of the author, or any of us for that matter, you are seeking information for yourself. I feel these "things" are most powerful if we stay igannant of them. Yes, there are yet times that you will feel compelled to ignore them, or claim that they don't exist. My twin daughters are 15. My primary concern with them, (even though they say I am silly) is that they are at an age where it would be fairly easy to use alcohol for an "escape". Not At my house! Anyway, I'm vigilant about normal parenting stuff that they don't think about. Are they eating right, getting enough sleep, etc. If this means that their sleep pattern has to change, then so be it. If they lay down after school, I try to also, even if I'm not tired, just like when they were babies ;D. Constantly tell yourself and him that this won't last "forever" . Do what you can to minimize the other stresses in your life, if only temporarily. Do stretching exercises at home, even if you don't regularly exercise. This may not become a physical battle, but feeling healthy, and like you can bound out of bed if need be, does help.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2013 0:38:25 GMT -6
Two weeks ago, I came down stairs into the living room. My son was shaking and looking at the window. He was really scared. He claimed to see a very tall man looking in the window. That's all I got out of him that night. Of course, I quickly took a look outside around the house and didn't see anything. This has happen to us about 6 months ago too. Today we talked about what he saw a couple of weeks ago. The man had long arms and fingers that went down to the knee and no real face, like something was covering it. That is all I got out of him. He did say that last night it sounded like 4 or 5 people were in my room. Six months ago, the creature was short. Jokelly; we do pray allot and go to church. I'm starting to realize that there is no way to stopping this. I wake up in my bed on time for work and uninjured. I guess I can't complain too much. Like everyone else here, we want answers. Thank you all for the replies. Eeeww... creepy long arms and fingers... and very tall... ~shudders and hides under skywalker's bed~
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2013 1:57:39 GMT -6
Well that's a design to frighten anyone kid or not The greatest enemy of all time is fear itself. I wish I had assurances and answers for you but I can only offer from my own experiences..I'm still here and (reasonably) sane. Part of some stupid alien catch..tag..and release program...as are a few of us. I'll keep you in my prayers and my fingers crossed.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2013 2:42:24 GMT -6
I wholeheartedly and faithfully agree that prayer is the ultimate weapon we have against them. Prayers go out to you and your son Bogey and everyone else here that are having issues with these things. The night I had the run in with these things I called upon Christ and The Holy Trinity to make them go away because it had gotten to the point that I had enough of their 'visit'. When I did you should have seen the look and expression on this things face when it turned around and asked me " what did you say"? Either it worked or they were done with whatever it was they were doing because they knocked me back out and when I woke back up they were gone. It took awhile to be able to open my eyes , move , and shout out for my ex. It's as if they hit me with an extra dose of whatever it was because I really had to fight that last time to even open my eyes. I would estimate that coming to the last time was at least a 45 minute ordeal but it seemed like an eternity to me. I try to look at things at every angle. It's difficult to find anything good that came out of this experience. I can name at least three. 1.) I realized we are not alone in this universe which answered a significant question in my life. I live in "The Show Me State". Seeing is believing. 2.) Floating (levitation). Feeling that was incredible. Wow ! 3.) Telepathy. There's no way to describe it. I also try to think in a positive way (at times but I'm only human) that perhaps they were doing something to help me or someone else but I just don't know. I can't help but wonder about that and what their purpose was. This experience had many disadvantages too. It's not something I would consider a thrill factor.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2013 2:47:47 GMT -6
I wouldn't call it a "thrill" either Cliff...
Unless a "thrill" is thinking you're going to be eaten alive by the monsters with the creepy long arms and fingers...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2013 6:21:11 GMT -6
The night I had the run in with these things I called upon Christ and The Holy Trinity to make them go away because it had gotten to the point that I had enough of their 'visit'. When I did you should have seen the look and expression on this things face when it turned around and asked me " what did you say"? Priceless . It is my understanding that even if someone is not active in their faith of Jesus Christ, using His name (not in vain) has certain effects on all kinds of situations. Even when I questioned my own belief, or loyalty, He was there for me. One of my "favorite" prayer examples is found in the bible book of "Daniel". He (Daniel) is praying regularly, and an angel of G_d shows up quite late. Daniel usually gets quick responses. . . hot furnace, lion's den. . .and this angel explains to Daniel why he is so late in coming.
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Post by dawnoftime on May 1, 2013 12:22:32 GMT -6
I know this is an old post, but I just had a memory come back that was interesting. My grandparents were really active in church. I had to go to Sunday school. I remember we were given an assignment to interpret a bible story and I was so excited because I thought I came up with something really interesting. LOL
It came my turn and I said, "Well, it seems obvious to me that Jesus could have been an alien, because they talk about the bright star coming, and the shepherds being terrified, and how he didn't have an earthly father, and he wasn't like any other humans!" I was grinning, with my eyebrows raised in excitement -- how kids do when they're like "How was that?"
My Sunday school teacher looked horrified and the other children looked like I had just grown a pair of antennae out of my head. After that they sent me to adult Sunday school with my grampa so he could keep an eye on me. :-D
Not to offend anyone's belief systems at all, but it made me wonder if Jesus was some kind of alien, then bringing him up would certainly be a great admonshment to others for doing things he would not condone. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you, indeed.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2013 13:45:14 GMT -6
I suppose it depends on a literal sense of the word alien..unusual, strange exotic, differing in nature or character typically to the point of incompatibility. In that direction Jesus could be said to be 'alien' ..angels and God too. My own sense of spirituality can buy that easily. Mixing spirituality with Greys or Reptillians or or or...either elevates those visiting entities or (in my opinion) lowers the role of God and Jesus. Every time I've ever thought of it (and I have) I get the creepiest feeling..the kind I get when I know somethings just not right. I've read a few books by those who study life after death..and in realms of after life..aliens are not excluded...but Jesus, angels and God..were spiritually apart from the rest..above. Naturally that can be a product of the way I was raised..well no because I didn't get any instruction from parents but a product of what I have come to believe as true and what I was shown in my own NDE, and I understand that a lot of people put no credence in those, far fetched unless you've actually had one...then it gets your attention. That we are all connected..I can easily believe but I need to keep my aliens separate or lose the idea of 'holy' .
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Post by dawnoftime on May 1, 2013 17:41:06 GMT -6
Yes, Jo,, I understand that. And I am constantly putting disparate ideas together -- many don't end up making any sense at all, they are just brain exercises I guess. That was even more true as a kid, and that was when I "came up" with that idea -- I know I didn't come up with that idea. But it was weird to remember it after all these years. It's funny, I would never have talked then about my personal experiences. A lot of people would have thought my comments on Jesus would have been way worse than talking about my own alien contact -- especially as a kid.
I am glad you listen to your heart when you feel like something isn't a good direction for you. I'm sure that is why you are so wise.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2013 23:44:16 GMT -6
I'm not wise CK..most often I just feel like a well trained monkey..I pass information that isnt even mine a lot of the time here...and I just became aware of that not so long ago. Tomorrow may see me sitting in a corner sucking my thumb LOL You are the wise one..climbing a very steep ladder with very narrow rungs..be careful
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Post by CitizenK on May 2, 2013 0:29:41 GMT -6
Aww Jo, we are all but students and teachers at the same time throughout our lives...you may be wiser than me in the next moment, and vice versa, it's a yin and yang.
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Post by dawnoftime on May 2, 2013 1:11:23 GMT -6
I'm not wise CK..most often I just feel like a well trained monkey..I pass information that isnt even mine a lot of the time here...and I just became aware of that not so long ago. Tomorrow may see me sitting in a corner sucking my thumb LOL You are the wise one..climbing a very steep ladder with very narrow rungs..be careful See what I mean? Did Jo just mistake you (CK) for me because of our pictures?
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2013 14:26:44 GMT -6
Actually I just wasn't paying attention
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Post by CitizenK on May 2, 2013 22:29:02 GMT -6
lol
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Post by sunbow on May 25, 2013 18:11:21 GMT -6
I have a crop circle movie where a film crew with a good camera catches a luminous orb flying across a field and it flies over a tractor, which stops running when the orb gets about ten feet from it. The orb passes over it and when it gets ten feet past it, the tractor starts. They found the farmer, who refused to be interviewed on camera, but is reported as saying that when he saw the orb coming and his tractor stopped, he was too stunned to do anything, then when it past him, the tractor just resumed running. He never did anything when it stopped or to try to restart it, because he was to surprised by seeing the luminous orb.
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Post by sunbow on May 25, 2013 18:19:23 GMT -6
I was in a radio forum and someone mentioned Jesus, then about five people chimed in by typing 'Hybrid'. [No offense - but some thoughts I consider:] It is likely that Yeshua's (Jesus') body was a hybrid body, given the stories of Mary being a virgin and having repeated visitations. That being said does not imply that the soul of Yeshua (Jesus) was alien, as he himself claimed to be a Son of Man, as opposed to a Son of the Gods (Nephilim). There are many different aliens, but some seem to be conscious of the dead and not just follow a family bloodline, but rather follow soul groups through successive incarnations. In that case it may be that Yeshua was leaving the wheel of incarnation as a perfected soul and the advanced spiritual alien beings created a superior vessel for his last incarnation. Indeed phrases like 'being born from above' and 'entering the kingdom of heaven' are worthy of contemplation in this context. The telling his imperfect followers that they will need to be 'born again' to achieve perfection implies that they were not ready to reach perfection in that incarnation and would need to live many more lives to attain perfection. Thus, a Hybrid body may house a very advanced human soul with great wisdom which we should listen to: Love one another.
--- I have no fixed beliefs, but somehow some of these thoughts feel closer to the truth than the conventional storyline. Any thoughts which make more sense to me will be adopted. I have been seriously contemplating these things for many years and do not believe there is anyone with any definitive answer about any of it.
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