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Post by auntym on Jan 3, 2013 13:48:18 GMT -6
www.ufodigest.com/article/ummo-affair-are-extraterrestrials-living-among-us-part-ii CLICK TO READ PART 1: www.ufodigest.com/article/ummo-affair-are-extraterrestrials-living-among-us[/color] January 03, 2013 The UMMO Affair: Are Extraterrestrials Living Among Us? Part IIBy Sean Casteel One particularly interesting chapter in the Global Communications book “The Secret Space Program: Who Is Responsible?” includes an interview with Richard Dolan, the hugely respected author of “UFOs and the National Security State,” in which he puts forth the idea of a possible “Breakaway Civilization,” a secret cabal of highly advanced humans who possess new technologies the mainstream world has yet to dream of and who also have no intention of sharing their knowledge with the rest of the world, at least for now. Dolan theorizes that this breakaway civilization most likely took shape in the years after World War II, which would be consistent with the UMMO aliens claiming to have come to Earth in 1950. It is a given that the breakaway civilization may include aliens among its membership, especially human-looking aliens. These same human-looking aliens most likely congregate in groups together, perhaps even building cities of their own and establishing small colonies throughout the Earth. “At the beginning of their history,” Antonio Ribera writes, “they would have to live in burrows, like rabbits. Later, they would have to build a complex underground architecture.” As they arrived on Earth, they quickly chose to locate in a semi-wild region, to avoid being discovered too soon. They found a hill near the small town of Digne in the south of France. At first, seeing the local buildings, they assumed them to be part of a scientific complex and were very surprised to learn the constructions were just for people to live in. During their first days on Earth, the UMMO aliens were extremely anxious, expecting immediate attack from Earth’s inhabitants and fearing they would have to rush out from their underground habitations and flee if their presence was somehow made known to the nearby earthlings. Another group of UMMO aliens was located in Australia, near the town of Adelaide. One of the interlopers attempted to drive a car in their new home Down Under and died in an accident. The aliens are also said to be “hemeralopic,” meaning they have impaired vision during the daytime, so they live essentially during the night. In the day, they simply sleep, like owls. “UMMO and the Extraterrestrial Papers” also includes some exchanges between a Canadian – given the pseudonym “Tony” to protect his privacy – and his UMMO correspondent, who calls himself “Mr. X.” It began when Tony was spending a particularly hot night in the summer of 1993 sleeping outside his home under the stars. Around 2 to 3 AM, he was awakened by a high-pitched humming sound. After first thinking a high tension line near his house had snapped, he saw something that made his hair stand on end: about 50 to 100 yards away, a remarkably bright light was hovering in the sky. Then the object dimmed and headed out over a nearby clearing directly behind his house. Soundlessly, the UFO took off straight up into the sky and Tony never saw or heard it again. CONTINUE READING: www.ufodigest.com/article/ummo-affair-are-extraterrestrials-living-among-us-part-ii
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Post by CitizenK on Jan 3, 2013 23:59:08 GMT -6
While I haven't decided whether or not I believe this is real or just a huge elaborate hoax, it is intriguing...I have never heard of the UMMO stuff before and I've been delving into everything I could get my hands on every since I started remembering what I was seeing and experiencing. So, to me this is very interesting. I am off to do some research on the subject!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2013 0:26:51 GMT -6
It's one of those things that you either want to believe or don't. No proof..none of the letters were 'odd' in any fashion..there isn't anything to identify the calls or letters as being from other beings. If Ummoites there were, they wanted to leave more questions than answers and instead of giving a message that could be received openly..they left the recipients of the messages out in left field...with no evidence. You would think...that if an alien race wanted to get a message across they would make sure the person receiving the message would have some way of proving it was a message from an alien race. They wouldn't be stupid...they would know there would be a lot of skeptics...so why bother?
Maybe some here could see what other information they could unearth..maybe rebuttals or supporting evidence? Do a little investigation and then poll members to see who believes it and who doesn't? Might be fun.
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Post by skywalker on Jan 4, 2013 10:51:07 GMT -6
Maybe some here could see what other information they could unearth..maybe rebuttals or supporting evidence? Do a little investigation and then poll members to see who believes it and who doesn't? Might be fun. Sounds good to me. Is there any evidence at all to support any of this? Maybe Ck will dig something up.
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Post by CitizenK on Jan 5, 2013 1:52:10 GMT -6
Haven't found anything yet, but I'm still digging! This intrigues me much!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2013 11:31:26 GMT -6
I was telling our intrepid leader (um Sky) that we have EXCELLENT investigators in here. It could be really rewarding to take some of the stories coming in and really dig to find what we can then put our own 'brand' on them of real or hoax. This is a group of very smart people..to me..trying to find the reality in something is a lot more fun than taking it at face value I'd love it if our forum could stand for something above and beyond what the others just keep bouncing around. Just the facts mam...nothing but the facts ;D (best Joe Friday voice)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2013 12:52:11 GMT -6
I have recently heard of a breakaway civilization but don't quite remember where . When I get to feeling better I'll try to search where that was if I can remember. I haven't heard of "ummo" before. I'm sure we all know what info we receive on the net as to legitimacy. Something I have been interested in was from long ago which may or may not be connected to this is a king which did exist and was very powerful in the region of India. His name was king Asoka (Ashoka). His empire was widespread and well known being very powerful throughout that entire region and much more. Supposedly , as some historians believe, he appointed a group of intelligent people known as "the 9 unknown men" to look into what was even then "ancient sanskrit texts" about "vimanas". If one doesn't know what they were, they were believed to be craft with various designs which had the abilities to fly and had technologies that many even today find intriguing. They also according to some, possessed the abilities to shoot weaponry similar to today's technology or possibly even with more advanced arsenal. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vimanawww.bibliotecapleyades.net/bb/bluebook001.htmKing Ashoka's reign was widely known throughout history and generally accepted by all. The mystery surrounding "the 9 unknown men" is that of rumors and mythology. There are many "stories" surrounding it but it's based upon a secret society that may or may not have existed with knowledge that may have been a danger to humanity if given to the wrong hands. I remain open about it as to the legitimacy surrounding this. What I find interesting in all of it is the design itself of these vimanas . Whether or not they were real or true, the concept seems to suggest that somebody knew something about flight engineering wherever or whenever these designs came from . If perhaps they did come from ancient texts thousands of years ago, that raises the bar . It may or may not be tied to any of this story mentioned above but I thought it may be interesting to add to the mix as a possible link somewhere since they are so close in similarities in some ways.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2013 13:16:49 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2013 14:22:09 GMT -6
I have heard of the "9".
About "Ummo"? I recall hearing something about people STEADILY receiving letters anon., supposedly from a "culture", but I didn't know this group had a name.
I looked it up yesterday, and felt some interest on the symbol pictured on one of their craft.
The "9" is referred to by different people, and I don't know what to think about it. It sounds too elitist for me, when my mind is accepting a small possibility of an actual federation ;D.
Thanks for the "sites"!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2013 14:37:10 GMT -6
Cliff..that story is fascinating...and I want to know MORE LOL. So much of what pings around the net is unreliable (or we'd all be dating French models because you can't put something on the net that's not true right? Buongiorno).
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Post by skywalker on Jan 5, 2013 21:32:38 GMT -6
I was telling our intrepid leader (um Sky) that we have EXCELLENT investigators in here. It could be really rewarding to take some of the stories coming in and really dig to find what we can then put our own 'brand' on them of real or hoax. This is a group of very smart people..to me..trying to find the reality in something is a lot more fun than taking it at face value I'd love it if our forum could stand for something above and beyond what the others just keep bouncing around. Just the facts mam...nothing but the facts ;D (best Joe Friday voice) Our intrepid leader is still not feeling well but is slowly recovering. Once he feels better he will probably go back to doing lots of intrepid stuff. I do like the idea of exploring some of these topics in greater detail. I bet we could figure out the truth about a lot of these stories if we actually tried to. We would probably have a better chance at success than most investigators because we have our own experiences that we can look to for guidance. I think that would give us an inside edge.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2013 18:33:43 GMT -6
I would love to see your forum stand for something besides entertainment. We have such good brains here and brains with more of an 'in' than some...they may not have been good experiences but maybe we can make them count for something We're also used to looking at things from many perspectives..
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Post by CitizenK on Jan 6, 2013 23:06:38 GMT -6
I like Jo's ideas! I think we should delve deeper into some of this stuff and take a serious look at it. Like Sky says, we could probably do better than most investigators due to having an inside edge on teh whole experience stuff! I know I already have learned as much as any investigator in the field with all the reading and studying I've done. And my snoopy lil nose has gotten me into some 'trouble' of few times cause I am not afraid to go looking for answers. (some of you might recall what I infer here . ) So I say let's do it! I'm on board. Still haven't had time to research UMMO with all the house fixin and whatnot but I'm still on the case! Not letting this slip by without a thorough looky loo!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2013 2:57:40 GMT -6
Hah...move over ghost busters
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Post by CitizenK on Jan 8, 2013 14:08:37 GMT -6
YEAH!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2013 0:41:25 GMT -6
I miss Steve... He was really good at getting that kind of deep thinking out of us...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2013 14:30:35 GMT -6
Well...I guess it depends on if folks want to 'settle' or not. Most of us were involved in some kind of happening we can't explain without involving the un-explained. Does that mean we should believe every story that we read on the internet without question? Does it mean someone else wouldn't be lying for attention or stretching the truth to 'glam' it? In so much as we can investigate it..that should be our desire or maybe we just believe the stories about aliens whisking us off to other planets because they love us (of course) or ending disease or providing new bodies that will never wear out (mostly because of a fear of death). Some say there is an alien base on the moon..who says that? Did they take pictures or just decide it was a good place for a base? Can't we be a little on the side of realism? Steve is missed.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2013 16:58:48 GMT -6
But that in itself was not a surprise. Sometimes, trace elements incorporate themselves into our tissue networks without any apparent sign of function in the histological structure. The surprise was in the realisation that this sequence of atoms, in addition to having a certain stereo-spatial order (rather strange for a cloud of atoms without an electronic valence connection between them), had its outer-shell electrons undergo a cancellation of their microphysical indeterminism characteristics.
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The IBOZOO UU is entity unknown to you. It has in itself neither mass, nor electric charge, nor moment, nor color, etc. It does not mak ____________________________________________________
I "copied" this part of the text (from site listed above by Cliff) on accident ;D. This is the page where they are talking about "collective spirit" and they refer to Carl Jung. My dad was coming in the front door, my dog was barking, I talked to my dad and then looked down at the computer again, and found my "accident".
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2013 17:08:43 GMT -6
another interesting tidbit: ;D
"While we " LIVE ", we are dead. This is the conclusion we have arrived at. During our "living" stage, although we are free, we take part in the Universe in a very restricted way. We are only receivers of a fraction of the knowledge our immediate environment offers us. We believe ourselves to be independent beings and yet we are only simple instruments of the WAAM-WAAM. Our function is to be used as observant EYES which see a fraction of the Universe. "
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2013 17:20:52 GMT -6
The 9 unknown men are considered by many to be a myth. I'm not sure if vimana's are in the ancient sanskrits from India, I'm only going off by what I have read from several different sources over the last few years on the net from the writings and drawings about them. Fascinating if true ! I use to not believe in mythological things and still question much of it but after the weird experiences that have happened to me and others over the past few years I have to be open to the possibilities. Could there have been a breakaway civilization ? I think it's possible. There is something out there. Who are they and where are they from ? I do not believe everything I read over the net as there is too much mis-information . The same goes for the links I posted above. Who knows ? I believe it is wise to look at things from every possible/impossible angle.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2013 2:11:34 GMT -6
Sometimes...a myth is a myth...sometimes I think when they fall across many cultures and countries..there probably is something to them. That's how I look at them anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2013 11:41:00 GMT -6
As Cliff said, "who knows"? I really don't want the internet to become our only source of information.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2013 12:42:44 GMT -6
It's sure all to easy to google information. I never buy a paper any more...but I do still watch the news. The trouble with the internet is...people will believe anything on it and unlike the commercial... there is no accuracy rule. It's much of conjecture and opinion and people who don't agree with official reports of things..and provide their own addle-pated versions....this spreads and pretty soon..none of truth remains. I think double checking facts is a REALLY good idea
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Post by sunbow on Jan 17, 2013 19:41:15 GMT -6
Vimana's are in the Sanskrit scriptures, often translated as flying machines. They are used by the gods in peace and war. Sanskrit contains many amazing tales which to me imply that the galaxy around us is very populated. They cover quite a time span in telling their history of Earth. Meanwhile, they emphasize that as short lived humans we are less attached to our incarnations that the Gods or Demons who have long lives of opulent enjoyment. This is a whole topic that is extensive.
I did look into UMMO. I noted that there were truckloads of goods transferred for cash. Some of the goods were electronics and metal parts. This made me believe that it was either a cover for a black market group or a clandestine government group. As stated above, if advanced aliens wanted to help us become civilized, then either these were dumb aliens, or this is a hoax story to cover other activities.
Richard Dolan is probably right that there is some sort of break-away society, but I doubt it is as advanced or extensive as he imagines. It does a government good to have its enemies believe that it has unbelievable technology that it is hiding. I just do not believe that there is a group of humans with a base on Mars, no matter how much fun it is to imagine such a thing.
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