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Post by dawnoftime on Apr 21, 2013 1:43:11 GMT -6
I think I mentioned before being called to go and meet the aliens at the usual spot in the night, and I glanced back and saw myself still laying in bed asleep -- weird -- and I mentioned remembering being conceived: the core of me floating into my mom's body -- also weird. And then, getting older, when I was about 3-5 years old talking about "daddy's boots" when I saw slant-cut green beans. This seems a clear indication that I had some knowledge that my dad wasn't simply my dad, that the aliens were also part of me: somehow part of my genetic heritage, but somehow piece-mealed into my "soul" for lack of a better word as well -- like it was all mixed together. So something so strange has happened that brings all this up, so here goes. My current wife and I (married in Canada) have been together nearly four years. We had always felt like children were out of the question, since she has had some health problems and I will be 50 next year (she is younger than I). But right around the time I felt like "they" were back and coming to get me repeatedly but then clearing my memory -- the time I started having that strange illness -- we both developed this overwhelming desire to have a child. As it turns out, we decided to send her to pick up my son and have them both go visit my family in the Pacific Northwest so she could improve her health and slowly go off some Class D drugs she had been taking that are contra-indicated in pregnancy. As I have mentioned here before, my dad is a life-long abductee, and my son has also been taken -- once while he was in bed between me and his other mom. Well my wife and son were there and starting the first night things were weird. My dad was thrashing and yelling all night from his room, and my son came crying in to my wife in the night saying he had "gotten his arm stuck in the wall" and was very confused. He kept saying over the next days he felt really funny, that something was wrong -- he was just "out of it." My wife had vivid, odd dreams the same night but she can't remember any of them. She herself felt very out of sorts and like she was missing something about that night. Then, the next day, she turned up with a shiny, circular burn/bruise unlike anything I have ever seen before, located on the top of her shoulder. It is similar in size and pattern to the rash/burn I got that seemed to herald the return of the visitors last August. I will try to put up a picture of her "burn/bruise" tomorrow. While she was open to my recent sharing with her about my own experiences she didn't think she had ever been taken. Now, she's feeling that everyone in the house -- perhaps besides my mother -- was taken that night on her trip. We are wondering if it has something to do with the baby we are planning to have -- like some kind of "DNA mixing party." As I said before, my son was adopted by me, but he looks like me, acts like me, is clearly a part of me. I have a feeling this upcoming child of mine will be an interesting mix indeed. I'm interested in the idea that people here have expressed about genetic experiments and I think there is something to the genetic manipulation theories, but we have such a limited understanding about how that connects with the "soulful" parts of people and how parts of our consciousnesses can be split and moved around (I have also been reading the cloning thread with interest). I would love to hear people's thoughts on my wife's wound/experiences, my son's feeing like part of his body was stuck inside a wall, and what folks here think all this baby stuff could mean or how it could be impacted by the visitors...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2013 4:16:26 GMT -6
Maybe the visitors want her to have a baby so they can keep "tweaking" her genetic bloodline...
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Post by plutronus on Apr 21, 2013 15:49:03 GMT -6
DawnOfTime,
<<< I'm interested in the idea that people here have expressed about genetic experiments and I think there is something to the genetic manipulation theories, but we have such a limited understanding about how that connects with the "soulful" parts of people and how parts of our consciousnesses can be split and moved around..
Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=recent#ixzz2R6yg1LUJ >>>
In 2000, I was attempting to understand the 'energy-problem' as identified via e-mail between myself and a CalTech theoretical physicist with whom I'd been chatting regarding the ET problem of why they may be here. Its all about energy. Everything in the Cosmos, if its active, uses energy, ET are no exception to this rule. In support of this I was concentrating my study on (the possibility) that Aliens may harvest Human Nous/Ruach/Chi energy via DNA linking with Human DNA engineered cells. This study was in the period before the Hybrid-Grey began teaching me Alien-Human relationship history.
I was searching for information that would fit my notion of how the psychic connection could be established and maintained between alien harvestor and the Human psi-biofield. While students of mysticism and functional psychics know that Vital-Life-Force is a higher-vibrational spiritual substance, like a 'fluid' and that its energy is the force that animates physical life and that the substance is transferable, it is another matter to describe the process technically as well as in a form that is acceptable and that can be conveyed to other technicians.
Cleve Backster, inventor of the GSR meter, a chart-recorder gadget that has become commonly known as the 'lie-detector', an instrument, with suitable modification, he used for experimental work with plants. He is also the author of dozens of scientific papers that describe his experimental work of studying bio-communication between between living cells. As a matter of trivia, Backster is also the 'coiner' of the popular phrases, "psychotronics", "autonomous-cognition" and "psionics". **He** defines these phrases as generally meaning, --'autonomous-cognition' = telepathy; 'psychotronics' = autonomous-cognition between biological based systems (insects, animals, plants, eg, 'living things') as well as their elements; and 'psionics' as being autonomous-cognition between non-biological physical systems, eg, machine-telepathy. The Soviets are believed to be 50 years more advanced in psionics than the US.
Cleve Backster has shown via experimental work, that a bio-field linkage exists from cell to cell in host-systems. This linkage or autonomous-cognition ('AC' for brevity) exists between the cells, irregardless of their proximity or location with each other or distance from each other. The AC linkage is a nascent information and energy channel between the cells in all living systems. Dr. Backster told me via my chats with him in 1995, that he was able to reliably demonstrate the simultaneous (time-stamped data logging-chart) biorhythm of a host donor subject (Human), separated, as part of the experiment design, were isolated 50 miles distance from the host's donated blood-cells that were contained in an instrumented test-tube being monitored & time-stamped also by a GSR chart-recorder. The biorhythms recorded were identical in both phase (showing no temporal latency..time displacement) as well as perfectly matched in rate, shape and period.
The biorhythm connection between the host subject and the subject's cells is further verification (as previously shown via Backster's numerous similar studies) that an inter-cellular communication 'channel' exists between cells of a system. (This information is SSE membership available via his SSE published papers). Dr. Backster, also pointed out that the AC information-channel is bidirectional, just as those of us who are empathically psychic, know exist between ourselves and those with whom we are connected, and as the rules of Yetzirah-Physics holds.
In summary, this information suggest that it is possible to remotely harvest Vital-Life-Force via DNA generated 'relatives'.
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Post by CitizenK on Apr 21, 2013 22:50:08 GMT -6
I think it is highly likely that your hunch that this has something to do with your future baby is exactly that Dawn. I believe that the 'memory' as well as the combination of DNA properties both lie within the DNA they just aren't yet something human can recognize. Now whether or not our soul essence is in the DNA is still debatable...I think it is more or less located in a specific area of the amygdula and/or pineal gland(s) but is exuded throughout the entire body via the blood electrical system's stream/current, i.e. DNA, as a bi-product. But a beneficial bi-product, because without this transfer we wouldn't be able to transfer our energy out beyond our own field to 'touch' (affect) other things/people including but not limited to healing them. And yes, if you are to have a child and she is to carry this baby, then she too would need DNA upgrades for 2 reasons, 1 to be able to carry a child that will be born with a higher frequency/vibration than the one your wife currently has (meaning she needs her vibrational frequency raised in order to carry the child) and 2 to be able to pass the proper genetics of the human qualities on to the child (which is also a vital part of the plan). Furthermore, I have no doubt that your beautiful son IS part of your blended DNA as well ! He needed to be brought into a family that would know how to nurture and hone his personality and gifts, that my dear, is you! As for your dad and son being taken on the same weekend, that is not one I can really answer. I'd have to speculate like anyone else, but my speculation would be they were due for a 'checkup' and the visitors/watchers took this as a wonderful opportunity to kill 2 birds with one stone so to speak...get the job done for the upcoming baby and check in on the family while they're at it. Or perhaps they needed to use dad and son's energy frequency to gauge them in where to set your wife's??? Dad's would obviously be lower than that of your son's so in the middle somewhere would be a good start with tweeking hers. Plutronus, I always find your answers to be stimulating, but have to say if speaking for the layman, there is much strain in understanding what you're trying to relay at times, my friend. (no insult intended here, so please do not take it as such.)
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Post by dawnoftime on Apr 22, 2013 5:17:52 GMT -6
DawnOfTime,
<<< I'm interested in the idea that people here have expressed about genetic experiments and I think there is something to the genetic manipulation theories, but we have such a limited understanding about how that connects with the "soulful" parts of people and how parts of our consciousnesses can be split and moved around..
Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=recent#ixzz2R6yg1LUJ >>>
In 2000, I was attempting to understand the 'energy-problem' as identified via e-mail between myself and a CalTech theoretical physicist with whom I'd been chatting regarding the ET problem of why they may be here. Its all about energy. Everything in the Cosmos, if its active, uses energy, ET are no exception to this rule. In support of this I was concentrating my study on (the possibility) that Aliens may harvest Human Nous/Ruach/Chi energy via DNA linking with Human DNA engineered cells. This study was in the period before the Hybrid-Grey began teaching me Alien-Human relationship history.
I was searching for information that would fit my notion of how the psychic connection could be established and maintained between alien harvestor and the Human psi-biofield. While students of mysticism and functional psychics know that Vital-Life-Force is a higher-vibrational spiritual substance, like a 'fluid' and that its energy is the force that animates physical life and that the substance is transferable, it is another matter to describe the process technically as well as in a form that is acceptable and that can be conveyed to other technicians.
Cleve Backster, inventor of the GSR meter, a chart-recorder gadget that has become commonly known as the 'lie-detector', an instrument, with suitable modification, he used for experimental work with plants. He is also the author of dozens of scientific papers that describe his experimental work of studying bio-communication between between living cells. As a matter of trivia, Backster is also the 'coiner' of the popular phrases, "psychotronics", "autonomous-cognition" and "psionics". **He** defines these phrases as generally meaning, --'autonomous-cognition' = telepathy; 'psychotronics' = autonomous-cognition between biological based systems (insects, animals, plants, eg, 'living things') as well as their elements; and 'psionics' as being autonomous-cognition between non-biological physical systems, eg, machine-telepathy. The Soviets are believed to be 50 years more advanced in psionics than the US.
Cleve Backster has shown via experimental work, that a bio-field linkage exists from cell to cell in host-systems. This linkage or autonomous-cognition ('AC' for brevity) exists between the cells, irregardless of their proximity or location with each other or distance from each other. The AC linkage is a nascent information and energy channel between the cells in all living systems. Dr. Backster told me via my chats with him in 1995, that he was able to reliably demonstrate the simultaneous (time-stamped data logging-chart) biorhythm of a host donor subject (Human), separated, as part of the experiment design, were isolated 50 miles distance from the host's donated blood-cells that were contained in an instrumented test-tube being monitored & time-stamped also by a GSR chart-recorder. The biorhythms recorded were identical in both phase (showing no temporal latency..time displacement) as well as perfectly matched in rate, shape and period.
The biorhythm connection between the host subject and the subject's cells is further verification (as previously shown via Backster's numerous similar studies) that an inter-cellular communication 'channel' exists between cells of a system. (This information is SSE membership available via his SSE published papers). Dr. Backster, also pointed out that the AC information-channel is bidirectional, just as those of us who are empathically psychic, know exist between ourselves and those with whom we are connected, and as the rules of Yetzirah-Physics holds.
In summary, this information suggest that it is possible to remotely harvest Vital-Life-Force via DNA generated 'relatives'.
plutronus
Thank you so much. That was absolutely fascinating, and does eloquently express what I had been ruminating on as a possibility, Science along these lines is very exciting to me and is really beautiful in its logic and internal consistency. I am so appreciative of you taking the time to share this in such an accessible and coherent way! Thank you again!!!!
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Post by dawnoftime on Apr 22, 2013 5:32:15 GMT -6
As for your dad and son being taken on the same weekend, that is not one I can really answer. I'd have to speculate like anyone else, but my speculation would be they were due for a 'checkup' and the visitors/watchers took this as a wonderful opportunity to kill 2 birds with one stone so to speak...get the job done for the upcoming baby and check in on the family while they're at it. Or perhaps they needed to use dad and son's energy frequency to gauge them in where to set your wife's??? Dad's would obviously be lower than that of your son's so in the middle somewhere would be a good start with tweeking hers. Thank you for your kind words regarding my son. It is always a "shot in the arm" to hear people you respect give you a shout out! Your suggestions make a lot of sense to me and seem, from my viewpoint, to dovetail with Plutronus' theories in a very logical way. Al this actually gives me a great feeling of hopefulness. I know that many people -- certainly those outside the realm of these experiences, and even for some here who have had traumatic experiences -- the idea that an offspring would be set up for these things from the start is not at all appealing (understatement). But my experiences have been such that although they have been frightening (and much more so before I had the context this board provided) I don't personally feel that these blendings and experiences are hostile or malevolent. I feel like they are a part of something important. I have never "put thoughts in my son's head" but once he did tell me what he was experiencing I was able to aid and support him in ways my parents didn't have the tools to accomplish with me. I do feel that he has an important role to play in the unfolding human story, as we all do. I hope it will be that way again if I am lucky enough to have another child. Thank you all for the great insights!
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Post by dawnoftime on Apr 22, 2013 5:35:39 GMT -6
Maybe the visitors want her to have a baby so they can keep "tweaking" her genetic bloodline... Thank you for your reply, lorelei. PLease try not to be worried. I have a sense it will be ok. Since this is a new experience for my wife I felt it was important to try to get feedback that I could share with her, as well as get feedback on my hunches of what was going on. All the comments have been helpful. It's good knowing you're here!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2013 16:44:41 GMT -6
I think I mentioned before being called to go and meet the aliens at the usual spot in the night, and I glanced back and saw myself still laying in bed asleep -- weird -- and I mentioned remembering being conceived: the core of me floating into my mom's body -- also weird. And then, getting older, when I was about 3-5 years old talking about "daddy's boots" when I saw slant-cut green beans. This seems a clear indication that I had some knowledge that my dad wasn't simply my dad, that the aliens were also part of me: somehow part of my genetic heritage, but somehow piece-mealed into my "soul" for lack of a better word as well -- like it was all mixed together. Hello Dawnoftime. Thanks again for sharing ! You mentioned remembering about being conceived and floating into your mom's body. Ever since I can remember anything at a very young age I have had memories that I've never forgot regarding my birth and I don't know how I could have just dreamt or thought something like that up being so young. It is very strange to me.: Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=encounters&thread=1352&page=1#ixzz2REVK15DyI'm very interested in what you recall with your experience if you don't mind sharing again. I searched for that thread /post/reply but was unable to locate it. As for these entities, I suspect we all may be "distant relatives". I just wish they wouldn't sneak in uninvited.
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Post by CitizenK on Apr 22, 2013 21:48:52 GMT -6
Cliff, I really don't think it IS uninvited anymore...the more I learn of this subject and the better I get at going within for answers and understanding I find that this is something we do know about or at least once did. I think we agreed to do this, agreed to come here, or volunteered rather. In this agreement we knew and were thankful that we would have others looking out for our well being while here this time, but with being born here and exposed to a new society with all it's fast paced lifestyles and no teachings of self or stillness we forget what we are doing and how we came to be. An amnesia of sorts, if you will. We , well many people, feel like they are here to do something important, feel like something is missing that they are searching for but never find, and all along it is within your own DNA to discover if only you learn to still and quiet the mind long enough to see what it is you are meant to do. Most people who I have encountered or read about have the same one thing in common, we are gifted. By that I mean we are able to use these innate abilities with much more ease than others. Some give the 'aliens' credit for this gift, others believe they simply showed us how to access and use it. But it is an innate human quality that anyone and everyone can learn, we just have an advantage to being able to somehow access it easier."This" is the first clue that we are part of a bloodline that no other person has thought to look at before...until now. This is the root of why I made the questionnaire, I wanted to see how you all feel about why you have a gift and who has it exactly. My hunch is that many who have the gift but no recollection of abduction have also been taken just do not have memory of it for whatever reason. My point here is that the visitations are not uninvited no matter how unwanted it may be by "us" (as abductees). If you can't remember what happened before birth here then how could you know what you agreed to unless you look within or ask the right questions to those who can answer? (i.e. self, "aliens", guides, Source, etc.) Food for thought for many , I'm sure. Peace.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2013 23:30:12 GMT -6
Cliff, I really don't think it IS uninvited anymore...the more I learn of this subject and the better I get at going within for answers and understanding I find that this is something we do know about or at least once did. I think we agreed to do this, agreed to come here, or volunteered rather. In this agreement we knew and were thankful that we would have others looking out for our well being while here this time, but with being born here and exposed to a new society with all it's fast paced lifestyles and no teachings of self or stillness we forget what we are doing and how we came to be. An amnesia of sorts, if you will. We , well many people, feel like they are here to do something important, feel like something is missing that they are searching for but never find, and all along it is within your own DNA to discover if only you learn to still and quiet the mind long enough to see what it is you are meant to do. Most people who I have encountered or read about have the same one thing in common, we are gifted. By that I mean we are able to use these innate abilities with much more ease than others. Some give the 'aliens' credit for this gift, others believe they simply showed us how to access and use it. But it is an innate human quality that anyone and everyone can learn, we just have an advantage to being able to somehow access it easier."This" is the first clue that we are part of a bloodline that no other person has thought to look at before...until now. This is the root of why I made the questionnaire, I wanted to see how you all feel about why you have a gift and who has it exactly. My hunch is that many who have the gift but no recollection of abduction have also been taken just do not have memory of it for whatever reason. My point here is that the visitations are not uninvited no matter how unwanted it may be by "us" (as abductees). If you can't remember what happened before birth here then how could you know what you agreed to unless you look within or ask the right questions to those who can answer? (i.e. self, "aliens", guides, Source, etc.) Food for thought for many , I'm sure. Peace. It makes sense and is possible Ck , and something I need to think about. Thanks !
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Post by dawnoftime on Apr 25, 2013 2:52:16 GMT -6
I think I mentioned before being called to go and meet the aliens at the usual spot in the night, and I glanced back and saw myself still laying in bed asleep -- weird -- and I mentioned remembering being conceived: the core of me floating into my mom's body -- also weird. And then, getting older, when I was about 3-5 years old talking about "daddy's boots" when I saw slant-cut green beans. This seems a clear indication that I had some knowledge that my dad wasn't simply my dad, that the aliens were also part of me: somehow part of my genetic heritage, but somehow piece-mealed into my "soul" for lack of a better word as well -- like it was all mixed together. Hello Dawnoftime. Thanks again for sharing ! You mentioned remembering about being conceived and floating into your mom's body. Ever since I can remember anything at a very young age I have had memories that I've never forgot regarding my birth and I don't know how I could have just dreamt or thought something like that up being so young. It is very strange to me.: Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=encounters&thread=1352&page=1#ixzz2REVK15DyI'm very interested in what you recall with your experience if you don't mind sharing again. I searched for that thread /post/reply but was unable to locate it. As for these entities, I suspect we all may be "distant relatives". I just wish they wouldn't sneak in uninvited. I don't mind at all recounting my experiences. Starting when I was a toddler I remember what people here would describe as "tall greys" visiting me. The earliest memory I have of them would be before my 2nd birthday (I was walking then, and apparently walked early, skipping the crawling stage). This early memory would have been the only one that may have a "medical" element to it, in that I remember something being done to my mouth, and I have a scar there still. My parents have no recollection of me having an onjury at this age -- any of us who are parents know it is unlikely you would forget your child having a scarring injury beyween 18-24 months! Anyway, after that, there were many times between the ages of about 5-9 that I would wake up at night feeling "called" and a feeling of pervasive dread coming over me -- knowing they were "here." I don't think I feared them as much as the peripherals of the experience: the smell of burnt hotdogs, their jerky motions, the feeling of paralysis, the "altered state or reality" as I knew it in daily life. Normally they would summon me to the basement, where I would just stand there and talk to them. In this way it was less like an "abduction" per se, but an experience. They seemed very tall to me, and they had broader but flattish chests, long, skinny arms and legs, the bald, pear-shaped head with a slit for a mouth and slits for nostrils, and large, black almond-shaped eyes that slanted. They appeared green to me -- this aspect is still not clear, as it could have been from some external glow, or I may see "grey" as "green." In looking online I sw most of the pictures of what people called "greys" as green. (?) Interestingly, I was just reading in-depth about the Betty and Barney Hill experience and she said that they encountered small greys and also a "leader" who looked like they did but was taller and had a slightly different color. They had tight-fitting uniforms on with boots that fit their legs, cut at a slant (I would always call slant cut green beans "daddy's boots" after these boots). Anyway, we would talk -- or they would talk to me for the most part -- without words and tell me about my life and what was going to happen and how things would unfold. During this time myfamily saw craft/lights in the sky fairly routinely -- once my dad and I actually leapt from the dinner table to chase three green, glowing balls around the field next to our house. My experiences with these entities would be pretty straightfoward in terms of being called and going to see them -- always knowing where I was, etc. But I also had some "dreams" or experiences about them that seemd more fraught with symbolism; for example, a time when I dreamed I was in a classroom with my dad and then I felt them coming, so I ran to his lap and they filed in, and then suddenly I remember writing I can't specifically recall on the blackboard. I got very ill after these years of intense activity and after that I had no contact with them until I was about 17-18, when driving across a very isolated part of eastern Montana in the middle of the night. I was with a girlfriend and her two kids. I remember feeling really "out of it" and then one of the kids said, "What IS that?" and we looked over and there was a huge glowing orange ball in the field next to the car. I made my girlfriend stop and I ran toward it. It started rising slowly and I yelled for it to wait, that I wanted to go with them. I don't remember direct contact then, but I have a vague recollection of missing time -- we got to our destination much later than I thought we would, but this is all foggy. Then at 19 I had the experience where I got up to pee and came back to bed and there was one of the "men" standing there in the room plain as day. He touched me and said, "Soon." Then that was it until I moved back home to Southern Illinois recently after over 30 years in the west. I had the feeling they were back. I got the burn/rash, fatigue, dizziness, ear-ringing, nausea, headaches and terrible insomnia -- but I have no memory of any contact. In fact memory problems in general have plagued me since the illness started back in late August/September. Then, as this thread indicates, it seems my wife, son and father experienced something very odd when they were all together several weeks ago. So I think that brings you up to speed, Cliff! ;-) I would very much like to hear about your birth memories!!!! It seems like such a rare thing!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2013 1:35:28 GMT -6
Thank you Dawnoftime for sharing . Glad you're here ! I'll try to get back within the next day or two and share more of what I remember as a young child. I also had a 'visit' by 3 entities that are considered 'greys' that I'll elaborate more on then. They closely resembled the ones you posted pictures of recently on another thread. While I'm thinking about it there is a friend/member here (Lorelei) on TEOR who had an encounter with tall greys when she was young ( age 8 I believe) similar in some ways to what you described. Do you feel they were tall because of your shorter height at a young age ? When you saw this one at age 19, was it taller or shorter in comparison to you ? Though I don't doubt at all the possibilities of there being more than one type of grey entity with similar features, the subject of their height is another thing I'm curious about. I've read about a few encounters with the taller greys. The three I saw were about 4 1/2 ft. tall. The "leader" was obviously older and the smaller mouth/slit area on him showed more loose skin/wrinkles around the maxilla/mandible area compared to the other two. "He" had a male "voice" which I could clearly "hear" telepathically ( I never even knew about telepathy until then ). The lips of this thing did not move yet it "spoke" clearly in a concise manner. What I was "hearing" it say at various times was not like the thoughts I hear from my own. This was obviously different and surprising to say the least. I never want to encounter them again yet ironically my curiosity pertaining to them is obsessive and overwhelming at times. I feel like the encounter itself was too much yet I feel over-driven since to know more about them, especially their agenda. I want to know what their motives are and what ramifications have been/will be implied upon humanity now that they have been here.
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Post by dawnoftime on Apr 27, 2013 2:34:25 GMT -6
Thanks cliff! I appreciated all that you said. To answer your questions, the ones I remember as a child were definitely taller -- like my dad (6 feet) or even perhaps more. When I was 19 the one I saw was around my height (I'm 5'3") which really doesn't seem to fit anywhere!LOL Its skin tone was more greyish than the green I remember when I was little. But then, this whole experience had differences. I didn't feel as though I was in any "altered state" during the encounter at 19. It was the first time I didn't notice the smell or the jerky movements, and the first time I remember being touched physically. There was also no "Uh oh..." feeling, that usually precedes a visit. I don't know what to make of it.
I look forward to hearing more as you promised! ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2013 7:38:49 GMT -6
Thanks cliff! I appreciated all that you said. To answer your questions, the ones I remember as a child were definitely taller -- like my dad (6 feet) or even perhaps more. When I was 19 the one I saw was around my height (I'm 5'3") which really doesn't seem to fit anywhere!LOL Its skin tone was more greyish than the green I remember when I was little. But then, this whole experience had differences. I didn't feel as though I was in any "altered state" during the encounter at 19. It was the first time I didn't notice the smell or the jerky movements, and the first time I remember being touched physically. There was also no "Uh oh..." feeling, that usually precedes a visit. I don't know what to make of it. I look forward to hearing more as you promised! ;-) Thanks again. This is what happened to us right around the turn of the Century. : Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=abductions&action=display&thread=790#ixzz2RrFvS0HFWe kept this to ourselves for many years after with the exception of discussing it with a close few people. I started looking into it later because it kept eating at me. When I eventually started learning how many other similar encounters there were I felt compelled to disclose it. I felt people should know irregardless. I owe a lot to the good people here at TEOR for their open hearts and understanding. Thank you ! It has made a huge difference disclosing this with caring people/friends. dawnoftime - I'm glad you opened up about this phenomenon also. IMO it isn't good to try to deal with this stuff alone. I personally didn't know how much of an impact it had or the trauma that was built up as a result of this but I realized it and have now learned to live life again. I sincerely hope for the same outcome for you and yours.
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Post by dawnoftime on Apr 29, 2013 21:11:32 GMT -6
Thanks cliff! I appreciated all that you said. To answer your questions, the ones I remember as a child were definitely taller -- like my dad (6 feet) or even perhaps more. When I was 19 the one I saw was around my height (I'm 5'3") which really doesn't seem to fit anywhere!LOL Its skin tone was more greyish than the green I remember when I was little. But then, this whole experience had differences. I didn't feel as though I was in any "altered state" during the encounter at 19. It was the first time I didn't notice the smell or the jerky movements, and the first time I remember being touched physically. There was also no "Uh oh..." feeling, that usually precedes a visit. I don't know what to make of it. I look forward to hearing more as you promised! ;-) Thanks again. This is what happened to us right around the turn of the Century. : Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=abductions&action=display&thread=790#ixzz2RrFvS0HFWe kept this to ourselves for many years after with the exception of discussing it with a close few people. I started looking into it later because it kept eating at me. When I eventually started learning how many other similar encounters there were I felt compelled to disclose it. I felt people should know irregardless. I owe a lot to the good people here at TEOR for their open hearts and understanding. Thank you ! It has made a huge difference disclosing this with caring people/friends. dawnoftime - I'm glad you opened up about this phenomenon also. IMO it isn't good to try to deal with this stuff alone. I personally didn't know how much of an impact it had or the trauma that was built up as a result of this but I realized it and have now learned to live life again. I sincerely hope for the same outcome for you and yours. Wow. Iread your story and the way you told it was so powerful. It really took me back to some of my own experiences. Like you I remember that horrible sense of paralyzation and the panic it could engender. When I worked at the zoo I had a stint in the veterinary department, where they used Ketamine -- it is a paralytic and somewhat hallucinatory drug they gave to the animals that rendered them helpless but not unconscious. That disturbed me greatly. I was pretty vocal about what I thought of it and that I wanted people to stop using it. It seems like the experiences we went through make us more empathetic on that level. I know it must have been especially traumatizing as a man to feel that you could do nothing to protect your loved one. I have felt similarly as a mother, when they took my son, but even then I wasn't aware of what was happening at the actual moment -- that must have been horrible. In general I have only had to worry about myself in those situations. The bad side of that is feeling like I was alone without any validation, the good side being that I didn't have to worry about anyone being harmed but me. I always knew though, unlike most experiencers, that I was not going to be harmed. The way I best relate to what you went through (and other's) is when I was in a coma from asthma and I would almost "come to" but they had me on drugs that kept me in the coma. The doctor in the ER had not treated me agrressively enough, despite my pleadings, and for three hours I suffocated until I slipped away and essentially died. So I felt these people didn't care about me and I was helpless. My heart goes out to you, honey, and I'm proud of you for letting it all out and helping other people -- me included -- in the process.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2013 21:39:23 GMT -6
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