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Post by sunbow on Jan 24, 2014 20:46:42 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2014 0:39:22 GMT -6
Not the first time I've seen the 'objects' and as I've thought when seeing them..there are so many armature astronomers that certainly have the capability of seeing that far..it could not stay quiet if objects were approaching..or landed on the moon. Then there is the whole Turner thing.. not the most reliable of sources..in fact..it's changed ownership recently under Federal order as he was convicted in a third federal trial for threatening 3 federal judges. He has a long history of conspiracy theory projects..oddly enough he was an FBI informant...not that he couldn't be right..but I'm unconvinced...mostly because of what private astronomers are not seeing. www.turnerradionetwork.com/For interesting reading en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turner_Radio_Network
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2014 12:50:42 GMT -6
I may ask a professional astronomer from Mcdonald observatory whether or not this is true. I have spoken with him before on a few occasions, but am hesitant because I don't know him well enough yet. I think I'll wait a bit first.
I have seen this image on blogs previously myself and I'm still searching NASA archives. I'm sure image experts are working on it because it is buzzing the net.
I must say now that there was an image of something found on the moon that an image expert noticed abnormalities in a few years ago from NASA'a archived images of a different object. A few of us were looking closely at discrepancies. That forum can only be accessed through archives so it may be difficult to find that thread.
These coordinates are from a website I'm not sure about where the image might be located on Google moon. I'm still looking into it. I just noticed that the same coordinates are on Sunbow's link he provided.
22042'38.46N and 142034'44.52E.
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Post by swamprat on Jan 25, 2014 15:31:17 GMT -6
Would be interesting to hear what Louange and Cousyn of IPACO have to say about this. They have sophisticated photograph analysis capability.
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Post by auntym on Jan 25, 2014 15:54:59 GMT -6
this doesn't surprise me... i've always believed aliens were on our moon... i believe we were warned off, that's why we don't have a space station there...
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Post by sunbow on Jan 25, 2014 17:00:13 GMT -6
Thanks for the comments.
Cliff, if you take the stand that: 'You want to know if he can scientifically prove this is false.' Then you are not putting yourself at risk of ending a friendship. I think it is a good philosophy to trying to rule every report out first, then wonder at those that remain.
While anything like this is possible, this seems farfetched, yet we are at enough turning points in our civilization that who knows. I am not sure the object as shown and described matches the object in the crater. The shutdown of much of NASA and the Government may have something hidden about it. The quick launch of the LADEE is suspicious. The LADEE mission complained that the China mission would stir up dust and alter their desired testing. The end of the audio talked about gravitational permutations? What would those be and who would measure them?
I do believe there are alien structures on the moon from a long history of lunar usage. It only makes sense that if there is an ET engagement of humanity, then teh Moon and Mars would have bases on them. I do not know if we were warned off of the Moon. The moon is far. Parts of NASA still dream of a base there. There was talk that the LCROSS booster they crashed into the moon was to hit a structure, but who knows.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2014 17:07:19 GMT -6
I don't know if true or not but does make sense..that the reason we never put a base on the moon is that it would have caused many diplomatic incidents with other countries and the idea of us having an eagle eye on them along with a weapon capability that tips the fragile balance of power. I personally don't think they there because it's too obvious...there are many better places to hide IMO. But my theory is still that they are inter dimensional and don't need to hide..just open a doorway and bada bing bada boom.
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Post by sunbow on Jan 25, 2014 18:54:42 GMT -6
Here are two speculations: Strange object spotted on moon inspires web speculationMystery Moon Object Spotted On Google Moon Has Everyone BaffledWe would put our weapons in orbit so that they did not take three days from teh moon to hit a target. We have satellites in orbit which can tell what brand of cigarette someone s smoking on a clear day - of course time on those satellites is extremely expensive so you don't have to worry about them spying on ordinary people. The idea of the diplomatic issues makes sense, since planting our flag was taken by some nations as offensive, like staking a claim. The moon is far and costs a lot to get to and from. It does not serve a DOD function and so there is not justification of the cost. Science does not get funded unless it can lead to corporate payoff.
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Post by skywalker on Jan 25, 2014 20:01:45 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2014 0:32:41 GMT -6
Does make sense Sky. I know many many people truly want to think that there is some alien base on the moon. Others are more like terrified that there could be. I don't feel either way about it..or bases on earth..or on Titan..but figure instead that they're not going to mean much to me until they get around to acknowledging us in some other way than as test subjects. Yep I know they're out there..I know there are hundreds..probably thousands of inhabited worlds and those people are as curious as we are in what ever way they process. I think...it's absolutely normal for us to wonder..maybe especially for those who have had some encounter with something we can't explain or rationalize away.
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Post by sunbow on Jan 26, 2014 9:18:19 GMT -6
Thanks Sky. Yes, pixels it is. But many of us still suspect there are things that could be found on teh moon. Either current or very old, but it still makes sense that it would be a place for a base. Of course, perhaps the mother ships are large enough and travel easy enough that they do not need a base. The real problem is 'alien' is likely to include behavior that just isn't anything close enough to human for us to suss the meaning.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2014 10:15:55 GMT -6
I agree also. When zoomed in too much pixels will cause illusions. The ccd can only resolve so far before this effect happens.
Thanks Morgan.
If I can find the thread on the other forum where the "anomaly" was that I referred to above(I'm sure some of you have probably seen it before but there were discrepancies present found by a qualified image analyst that many in the ufo community know and respect). I'll try to direct those interested to it if it's still accessible. I would like to first respectfully ask permission from admin and mods before doing so because I do not want to cross forum lines without their consent. That forum is up and running again so (hopefully) that thread is in the archives somewhere.
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Post by sunbow on Jan 27, 2014 12:12:38 GMT -6
The fact that they lost site of the object, then suddenly someone finds a pixel aberration on the moon, does not mean the approaching objects are not real. Also, why would they not hide on the dark side, if indeed they are on the moon and not cloaked in Earth orbit.
The evidence for them, one image showing a corroded object and one witness is not real strong, but not disproved either. The fact that the one image was discredited and we are all ready to throw out the whole story shows how hard it is to use logic and not be confused when fact and disinformation are mixed. I am not saying something huge came into the solar system which was not natural, nor am I ready to say it did not.
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Post by skywalker on Jan 27, 2014 20:21:06 GMT -6
We have space craft orbiting the moon and taking photos of practically every inch of the surface. It would be hard for anything to hide there unless it went underground, which is entirely possible. many people speculate that the moon might be partially hollow. It's possible ET may be hiding underground here on earth also...or under water...or cloaked in the atmosphere...or in plain sight right under our noses. Lots of possibilities. Nobody has to convince me that they are here. I already know that. The question is where are the little space pirates hiding?
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Post by sunbow on Jan 27, 2014 20:57:50 GMT -6
I like that: where are they hiding???
Probably all of the above. As far as spacecraft servicing the moon, who knows what has been seen and not released to teh public. Japan recently did a survey and also recently opened a big UFO center. Makes one wonder.
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Post by lois on Jan 27, 2014 21:18:24 GMT -6
Call me crazy if you want, I got a hunch someday they will find out that Armstrong when walking on the moon did see structures. He was a true astronaut in every sense of the word He would never tell before he passed about that tape. People say it was filmed on earth. Maybe so but I still have not made up my mind. This is not such a shock or big deal to me to find a ship up there.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2014 10:20:57 GMT -6
Too much Independence Day. "It's coming from the moon". Personally I think phobos is hollow and if anyone were going to hide it would be there. IF they had bases on the moon...they wouldn't have let us walk there in the first place (so I believe). And it's just too visible by astronomers and satellites. Methinks...they have 'other' means. Lucky we're not living in N Korea..here..we all get an opinion LOL.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2014 8:32:46 GMT -6
Thanks for the comments. Cliff, if you take the stand that: 'You want to know if he can scientifically prove this is false.' Then you are not putting yourself at risk of ending a friendship. I think it is a good philosophy to trying to rule every report out first, then wonder at those that remain. While anything like this is possible, this seems farfetched, yet we are at enough turning points in our civilization that who knows. Not that I'm trying to link with anything to do with this , but it is coincidental that Mcdonald Observatory (mentioned in the article) had a new director assigned recently. The astronomer that I sort of know just recently began working there at Mcdonald so I don't know how much he would know. He is very reserved about what he discloses pertaining to his job but has discussed a few things including his job description. I thought I knew alot about telescopes ? This guy is a wizard. The article mentions an alias name (Dr.Eric Norton) because (according to the article) the persons identity needs to stay confidential. I could see why if true. It also leaves room for doubt depending how one looks at it. I agree Sunbow that the pixeled image is one thing and incoming objects is another but it raises doubt as to the articles legitimacy imo. One question I have with the article is that it states they saw dark L-shaped objects visually outside of Mars orbit. Telescopes collect light. I would think they'd have to use a different method other than visual ? The article also states : How could they come to this conclusion ? Spectral analysis would provide some clues but .... all the above ? They did mention radar also but would it be that conclusive from such a distance (the other side of Mars)? Several questions. I know this solar system has been visited and I'll still keep my mind open to these "incoming objects" but unfortunately there is nothing solid to go on either way. I guess the most discouraging thing about all of this for me is the fact that the world has truth but it also is full of deceit and we have to try and figure out which is which (as if it wasn't difficult enough).
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Post by sunbow on Jan 30, 2014 9:43:59 GMT -6
Good analysis. Right, spectral analysis of a dark object would not get you much, unless you happened to catch a meteor hitting it and vaporizing some of it, which is unlikely, even if it was not super hard. Radar at that distance is doubtful. At the end they mentioned gravitational anomalies involving the Earth and Moon, so how could they measure such things and what exactly does that mean?
So is this a total hoax? Are they watching and worrying something big might be coming? Is the point of such disinformation just to get clicks to their site? I'm not sure we can tell. Someone said Turner was a corrupt news site, because Turner himself was indited and convicted, turning the news agency over to new hands.
The problem with many disinformation campaigns is that the truth they are trying to obscure is in some of the stories (at least some variation of the truth), since surrounded by falsehood, the truth is discredited. Then many similar storys are generated as random noise. In the end, the truth becomes hidden in the noise.
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Post by lois on Feb 13, 2014 11:39:56 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 14:39:33 GMT -6
It's the beginning of an occultation of the moon blocking a star. The observers 6 inch reflector is slightly out of focus (notice the out of focus moon)causing a distortion in the stars appearance. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occultation
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 16:48:20 GMT -6
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