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Post by Steve on Mar 19, 2011 17:59:15 GMT -6
I am always impressed each day as new PC simulations are introduced. Actually this new one 'Rise of Flight' is about a year old now. I have played aircraft sims for years. I enjoy the beauty of aircraft set in different visual settings. I guess the purpose of this you tube video is to illustrate the ever increasing sense of reality - pushing the edge of reality further and further till one day - will we be able to tell the difference? Images of UFO's in this present digital age seem to have taken us to a place where our ability to establish 'proof' is impossible - slipping away out of our hands, and into a reality where one cannot discern one reality from another reality. The wonderful simulation 'Rise of flight' about World War 1 dogfights with it's beautiful landscapes and cloudscapes is one such example. Even the grass on the hillsides in the video become visually 'warmer'. And accomplished on a 'PC'. This scenes in the above short film placed on You Tube uses just the normal game elements and software to tell a fascinating forensic story. The death of Richthofen, 'the Red Baron' who died in combat on April 21, 1918. The game provides an engine to tell dramatically a story. I am impressed too by the new venue You tube offers for home brewed short films to be produced on home computers. This short film illustrates what can be reenacted and recorded within PC software at home. I feel that UFO research must change with the times!!!!! Photo analysis of UFO's I am sure will continue, the race between analysis and potential hoaxer seems almost perpetual. Investigations I think now more and more must shift to the human mind - the hope to collect something 'nuts and bolts' maybe obsolete. What effects and memories placed there within th human psyche maybe where the abduction and UFO mystery remains. But then what of that reality? In the present & future, aliens maybe covertly working around the world, and if any postcard photos capturing an image should ever occur (I have not seen any yet in the digital age) - it will be only because the entities and intelligence behind these flying objects permit themselves to be seen and photographed. And even then - would anyone be able to prove it to be authentic? Perhaps the UFO itself even projecting an image to the camera so they deliberately appear intentionally as a digital image. Projecting to the witness recorded on digital cameras a grainy pixel image - pixel camouflage. Where is the Edge of Reality? A menagerie. Steve
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2011 0:07:22 GMT -6
Interesting thoughts Steve.
If they can bend time and space... then they can possibly bend light in a way to make their craft and possibly even themselves appear different.
They toy with our memories. They toy with our psyches. They toy with our bodies. I wonder what else they are able to toy with? Can we even fathom some of the "games" they play with us?
It's frustrating to say the least... frustrating to ponder the possibilities of such things...
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Post by skywalker on Mar 20, 2011 6:49:22 GMT -6
Images of UFO's in this present digital age seem to have taken us to a place where our ability to establish 'proof' is impossible - slipping away out of our hands, and into a reality where one cannot discern one reality from another reality. I feel that UFO research must change with the times!!!!! Photo analysis of UFO's I am sure will continue, the race between analysis and potential hoaxer seems almost perpetual. Investigations I think now more and more must shift to the human mind - the hope to collect something 'nuts and bolts' maybe obsolete. What effects and memories placed there within th human psyche maybe where the abduction and UFO mystery remains. But then what of that reality? Hi, Steve. I agree with you that studying photos is never going to provide "proof" of the existence of UFOs. Even if it is a real UFO photo it still would not be proof because there is always a chance that it could be a hoax. The same goes for investigating lights in the sky, interviewing eye-witnesses, or using hypnosis to recover lost memories. None of these things will ever provide the proof that we are looking for. Ufology has been spinning its wheels for more than 60 years investigating the same things over and over again and getting nowhere in the process. That doesn't mean we should stop investigating though. We just need to evolve and adapt our thinking. All of the things I mentioned...photos, videos, eye-witness testimony, hypnosis...none of these by themselves will ever provide proof, but they can provide useful clues that may eventually lead us in the right direction. We just need to start thinking differently than we have in the past. We need to change with the times. I agree that the human mind is one of the best places to look for potential evidence. That seems to be the place where ufologists in the past have not wanted to look. Maybe they are afraid that what they find will not fit in to their nuts-and-bolts world. (By the way...I thought Snoopy shot down the Red Baron.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2011 22:55:27 GMT -6
Not a lot that we can do about our 'digitally devious' population. For some reason, it's as important to some to perpetuate hoaxes as it is for some to hunt the truth. I've seen photo shop pictures that are exceptionally good. Some of them are mine..I do graphic arts..banners for websites. I make animated goodies but never would I use that to doctor pictures to delude others. I swear it's a part of the 'keep em guessing' thing that seems to follow on the heels of anything to do with UFO's. Soon. I'm setting bear traps this summer..baiting them with strawberry ice cream and maybe my neighbor. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2011 22:57:08 GMT -6
Not a lot that we can do about our 'digitally devious' population. For some reason, it's as important to some to perpetuate hoaxes as it is for some to hunt the truth. I've seen photo shop pictures that are exceptionally good. Some of them are mine..I do graphic arts..banners for websites. I make animated goodies but never would I use that to doctor pictures to delude others. I swear it's a part of the 'keep em guessing' thing that seems to follow on the heels of anything to do with UFO's. Soon. I'm setting bear traps this summer..baiting them with strawberry ice cream and maybe my neighbor. ;D LOL... I take it you don't like your neighbor too much, huh?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2011 9:43:11 GMT -6
oh..she's just different enough to appeal to them
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Post by paulette on Mar 21, 2011 11:08:22 GMT -6
The CG images look real to me (first Utube clip).
Skywalker writes: "Ufology has been spinning its wheels for more than 60 years investigating the same things over and over again and getting nowhere in the process. That doesn't mean we should stop investigating though. We just need to evolve and adapt our thinking."
I wonder if you have a plan or idea of how else to investigate? Interviewing witnesses, investigating sites, looking at visual images - is there something else?
I would say that evidence gathering seems to be uncertain - but then field work is being done by volunteers rather than forensic labs (or if it is done in forensic labs - the government is probably doing it).
In no particular order: substances that fluoresce on people's skin - taken to the lab? Identified? Similar or the same to earth products like are used marking money etc??
radiation - tested every time there is a supposed touch down?
Soil samples? Vegetation samples? Tree ring samples?
Blood tests or any other standardized tests of people reporting contact of the 3rd kind?
I donno. I get my science info from watching TV!
Ice cream in bear traps? Are those live traps (so you can let the neighbors and neighborhood child go) or steel teeth in the body traps??? This has to be one of the more intriguing diversions that I've seen here!!!
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Post by skywalker on Mar 21, 2011 14:05:39 GMT -6
I personally think the key to solving this mystery lies in the abduction phenomenon. Here we are having what may be actual human/alien contact that is taking place right under everybody's noses. Instead of chasing after the lights in the sky we should be spending more time analyzing the stories these abductees tell and seeing if there is some common thread that runs through them that we may be able to use to help us figure out what is going on. Even if it just gives us new ideas or a new direction to look in. The ambient monitoring program was a good idea that derived from studying the abduction phenomenon. We need more outside the box thinking like that. We have been chasing lights in the sky and looking at photos for 60 years, let's try something else. I'm not saying we should stop doing those things, I just think we need to try a fresh approach.
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Post by paulette on Mar 21, 2011 16:37:48 GMT -6
OK...I'm following you (I think). It would seem to be a good thing if people claiming contact were followed up on - you know, 1 month, 6 months, 1 year, 5 years - and in the case of children - during their reproductive years. And then maybe their children as well. Because anecdotally we know that abductions reoccur over time and within families.
Of course - that would require continuity and funding. Which the government might have but we don't. (any of us we's). But even if people were given a mailer - mail this to.....in x amount of time. Some of them might (but back to continuity and funding - addresses change, volunteers burn out and leave).
One of the advantages of this site (and others before it) was that people got to talk about themselves over time. How they viewed what had happened, if dreams seemed to perhaps be more than dreams, that they received confirmation from old friends or family after years of a no-talk silent agreement...
I have realized after pondering my own experiences and those of others that once I was no longer producing offspring or eggs my experiences were over. There may have been one distant sighting (something behind me on the highway) but if they were there they were not for me. My kids (now adults) are not actively expecting anything nor reporting anything. Both live in large cities and would have to be dragged through walls - no body goes out and smokes a cigarette in their back yard where they live.
Anyway, I think consistency is the major flaw no matter what is being investigated. I've seen some guys on TV and they asked leading yes/no questions and even suggested stuff that the experiencer had not even mentioned or maybe thought of. On the other hand, Steve seems to first go over possible earthly explanations with the people he interviews.
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Post by skywalker on Mar 21, 2011 20:20:22 GMT -6
I think Steve is on the right track. He is open-minded yet skeptical at the same time. That is what an investigator needs to be. The type of research he is doing is the kind that more people should be doing. MUFON on the other hand is drifting aimlessly along hoping to smash into something but not sink themselves in the process. They used to only look at lights in the sky type cases, and now it seems they have gone total alien-wacko. I suppose next they will be requiring their members to wear tin-foil hats.
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