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Post by swamprat on Apr 18, 2015 8:53:58 GMT -6
Conspiracy Theorists are Alive and Well
It started harmlessly enuff...a dozen or so Walmarts close, and thousands laid off..all because the plumbing went bad..even though no permits to fix were issued..and it coincided with the same stores that were demanding wage increases. It's the American way..we used to call them Lockouts.
Wal-Mart suddenly closed five stores in four states on Monday for alleged plumbing problems. The closures could last up to six months and affect roughly 2,200 workers in Texas, California, Oklahoma, and Florida, CNN Money reports.
Wal-Mart employees say they were completely blindsided by the news, having been notified only a couple hours before the stores closed at 7 p.m. Monday.
"Everybody just panicked and started crying," Venanzi Luna, a manager at a store in Pico Rivera, California, told CNN Money.
All workers will receive paid leave for two months. After that, full-time workers could become eligible for severance, according to CNN Money. But part-time workers will be on their own.
Local officials and employees have questioned Wal-Mart's reasoning for the closures.
According to ABC News, "no plumbing permits have been pulled in any of the five cities where the stores were suddenly closed for at least six months." The cities where locations were closed include: Brandon, Florida; Pico Rivera, California; Livingston, Texas; Midland, Texas; and Tulsa, Oklahoma.
A city official in Pico Rivera confirmed to CBS Los Angeles that the city has not received any permit requests for building repairs.
In Midland, Texas, where another store was closed, a city official told ABC News that his plumbing inspector was turned away when he visited the store and offered to help secure construction permits.
Wal-Mart plumbing technician Codi Bauer, who worked at the now shuttered store in Brandon, Florida, questioned the company's time frame for the repairs.
"Even if they had to replace the whole sewer line, it wouldn't take six months to replace a whole sewer line in that store," he told WFLA.
We reached out to Wal-Mart for comment and will update when we hear back.
A Wal-Mart spokesman told Consumerist that the company had not secured permits "because we have yet to know the full extent of the work that needs to be done. We may also have to do additional upgrades that may require additional permits."
Some employees believe that the stores were closed because of worker protests for higher pay.
Employees of the Pico Rivera store were among the first to hold Black Friday protests in 2012.
"This is the first store that went on strike," an employee told CBS Los Angeles. "This is the first store in demanding changes for Walmart."
www.businessinsider.com/wal-mart-suddenly-closes-stores-2015-4#ixzz3XdR0CECd
Business as usual, right? Uh.......wait a minute.........what's this about Homeland Security?? Back in 2009??
Now, after some digging by people and retrieval of vids taken in 2010 and 2009, looks like the plumbing coincided with our very own Homeland Security and tunnels!?
According to NBC News “This Snippet below is from 2010. You can see where they announce the use of hundreds of Walmarts across the country:
"Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano announced the unusual alliance Monday on the department’s blog and in a promotional video posted to YouTube."
“Homeland security starts with hometown security, and each of us plays a critical role in keeping our country and communities safe,” she said. “This partnership will help millions of shoppers across the nation identify and report indicators of terrorism, crime and other threats to law enforcement authorities.””
Snopes has it listed, but no investigation results yet....... .....and the truth is...........?
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Post by skywalker on Apr 18, 2015 13:23:23 GMT -6
Does this mean that Randy was right? This is what he was talking about on his prepping thread.
0f course, if the employees at those stores really were demanding pay increases it wouldn't surprise me that Walmart would shut them. They don't put up with labor unions or people going on strike. That's one of the most efficient companies I have ever seen.
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Post by swamprat on Apr 18, 2015 14:27:07 GMT -6
Here is another video on it. It gets interesting at the 1:48 mark.
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Post by skywalker on Apr 18, 2015 19:00:16 GMT -6
I don't know about this, dude. It sounds kind of fishy. The tunnels that they were showing in the video that the truck drove into look to me like those underground warehouses they have in Missouri. I deliver to those all the time and they are humongous inside but there's nothing suspicious about them. They are just old mines that were repurposed when the mines ceased operating. They make ideal warehouses because the temperature inside stays constant year round. Also what they were saying about the 588 Walmart stores working with the local police to report suspicious activity isn't unusual either. The DHS was doing the same thing with a lot of the major trucking companies around the country also. After 9-11 happened we started receiving extra training on how to spot and report suspicious activity. Truckers receive training like that every now and then. Currently they have a new program to help stop sex trafficking by asking truckers to keep our eyes peeled for prostitutes that may be underage or being forced to work involuntarily. I guess the Feds must think truckers are experts when it comes to prostitutes. Now I'm not saying that there aren't underground tunnels and military installations around the country because I'm sure there are. My company is contracted to work for FEMA during crises situations and I have delivered freight to a lot of weird places. I've been locked inside of prisons, delivered to many military bases and a few nuclear power plants, and picked up loads from places that do classified work for the government like aerospace companies and weapons manufacturers. I've even driven down railroad tracks and airport runways before and in a lot of those cases we were escorted by military personnel or armed guards. The procedures the trucker was describing do sound like typical government procedures. I don't see any connection to Walmart though. I've done a lot of contract work for them also and never saw anything suspicious anywhere. As far as I can tell they are just a very efficient company. I've never had a bad experience at a Walmart. Can't say that about the Feds.
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Post by randy on Apr 18, 2015 22:51:25 GMT -6
What we are dealing with here is disinformation to cloud the issue of what is really going on with the stores. Evil WalMart fights employee demands and the tunnel stories are disinformation. The store closing fits too neatly with Jade helm. Posssibly prisons requiring more toilets and showers to care for the one brought in or perhaps some sort of staging area for units in the exercise. I think it is a sorting out area for detainees. who is really behind Jade Helm is the question Obama removing critics or perhaps a military putsch. i think the first given the location of the exercise. Texas is high on gun rights, Utan is Mormon country not noted for supporting Obama and clanish and so Calif where some organized militias exist are all listed as hostile areas. Reminds me of Patrick Henrys famous speech which most people have not read which says in part who is this war like preparation for refering to the British army in America We could and should ask that as well. Why did the govt buy 2,000,000,000 rds of ammo? Speaking of that the last lead smelter in the US closed up so to make bullets were have to go to China for lead now. Pretty slick aint it.
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Post by auntym on Apr 18, 2015 23:15:36 GMT -6
randy... personally i've had enough of your crap... i am telling you to tone it down or find another forum
you have a choice...
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Post by skywalker on Apr 19, 2015 8:51:48 GMT -6
The only way these Walmart store closing could be related to this Jade Halm thing is if it were an actual hostile government attack against the people rather than just a training exercise like the Feds are claiming it is. Walmart is not going to shut down five stores just for a training exercise. I doubt they would do it for a hostile government takeover either because any type of civil war would put Walmart right out of business. On the other hand, employees demanding wage increases would be just the thing to cause Walmart to shut down five stores because like I said before they don't put up with organized labor unions.
Of course there is also always the possibility that maybe the plumbing really was bad. Some of Walmart's stores are pretty old. They are always shutting down old ones and building new ones, or closing a small one to build a big one. The decision to close stores wouldn't come from the individual store managers but from the corporate office in Bentonville so closing down five stores at once is probably not an unusual occurrence considering how big Walmart is and how many thousands of stores they have.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 17:28:14 GMT -6
Of course there is also always the possibility that maybe the plumbing really was bad. Some of Walmart's stores are pretty old. They are always shutting down old ones and building new ones, or closing a small one to build a big one. The decision to close stores wouldn't come from the individual store managers but from the corporate office in Bentonville so closing down five stores at once is probably not an unusual occurrence considering how big Walmart is and how many thousands of stores they have. What's weird to me, is they always have the new walmart built, they move into the new one, and THEN close down the old one. At least thats how they do it around here. and the Walmart they close, maybe ended up in a high crime area . . . basically they were moving to get more customers. Are there any other Walmarts in these cities? if that particular walmart took over a lot of small businesses in that town, then I would be really upset if walmart packed up and went away because they weren't making any money. To leave vacant buildings all over the nation, just to pick a different local, for whatver reason, looks ~bad~ anyway. About linking them with Homeland Security? Unemployment is not going to help them any . . . are they hiring? (yes, two branches in my general area). Having your workers leave with money, and severance pay? Really weird. all the stores claiming the same reason for closing? ah! the secret is revealed to the water problem in california!!
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Post by randy on Apr 20, 2015 22:49:02 GMT -6
time will tell what happens I have my life to live and family to be with in my high lonesome come what may. I am ready regardless. If you have not noticed oh noble auntym the forum is dying on its feet going no where. I am the only one who really knows where the greys live and I might as well be talking to a stone wall I probably will not be back as I am a free born man I could have been glorious
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 11:39:29 GMT -6
The 'rumor' is that Walmart is going to close some older less income garnering stores because..of the picketing for higher minimum wage. If fast food chains and retail stores have to pay $15 an hour..it's going to take a huge toll and since other states are already at that wage..it's just a matter of time. Randy..this forum isn't on it's way down anywhere. We're all still here...chatting away on the same stuff we've always been discussing..just like you. I'm here because I don't want a forum like mufon..all mouthy and argumentative. If you had ever brought a tad of proof to the table..some photos..recordings..walk over the hill and take up close pictures of the vents..people would have been more apt to listen. But when you're talking about grey's walking into human bodies and taking over..you tend to lose your audience. Because people don't behave as you think they should..they're possessed?? Like here..the idea is to toss ideas..compare..not expect others to believe as we do. I relate what happened to me. Sky relates what happened to him..likewise Lorelei, Auntie, Lois and everyone else. We listen we see how theirs compares to ours and it helps us to process what we encountered. What we're not looking for is Paul Revere riding through the forum hollering the British are coming... They'd have been here by now even riding slow donkeys. You played with them what..55 years ago or so? That is plenty of time for plans to change or a colony to die out. So many explanations un- explored..they could have lied to you..implanted suggestions..it could have been their brand of humor..it could have been a government experiment or something in the water. You could be spot on, all counts. You believe as you do and we accept that...it's cool. Some will agree with you but what in the world would you expect a hand full of people to do...march on Novato? Take out Cherry Hill with Bobcat's and caterpillars until they level it and chase the hoard out with torches? If you come looking for validation..or get upset because people don't share your belief..then that's very hard for you. Not what a forum is about though. It's to join in discussions and share experiences..not to expect others to jump on your band wagon. You are a history buff..I know Sky enjoys that too, others as well..but I'm not a history buff..I sort of figure the past needs to stay put and the future is going to unwind no matter what..but today is the biggie. I hated history in school too LOL. People here don't share all of my interests either but that's fine..it's great because they have their own beliefs..and interests just like people are supposed to. If we click or share..it's great..but not necessary. I am sorry if you feel people aren't heeding your wisdom..but life is like that..and it's meant to be. And if the greys crawl out of cherry hill and take over California..well..I'll pour myself the first glass of wine I've had in many a year and drink a toast to ole Randy. Count on it.
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Post by auntym on Apr 21, 2015 13:03:07 GMT -6
time will tell what happens I have my life to live and family to be with in my high lonesome come what may. I am ready regardless. If you have not noticed oh noble auntym the forum is dying on its feet going no where. I am the only one who really knows where the greys live and I might as well be talking to a stone wall I probably will not be back as I am a free born man I could have been glorious i wish only the best for you randy...
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Post by god on Apr 22, 2015 14:41:28 GMT -6
The 'rumor' is that Walmart is going to close some older less income garnering stores because..of the picketing for higher minimum wage. If fast food chains and retail stores have to pay $15 an hour..it's going to take a huge toll and since other states are already at that wage..it's just a matter of time. Randy..this forum isn't on it's way down anywhere. We're all still here...chatting away on the same stuff we've always been discussing..just like you. I'm here because I don't want a forum like mufon..all mouthy and argumentative. If you had ever brought a tad of proof to the table..some photos..recordings..walk over the hill and take up close pictures of the vents..people would have been more apt to listen. But when you're talking about grey's walking into human bodies and taking over..you tend to lose your audience. Because people don't behave as you think they should..they're possessed?? Like here..the idea is to toss ideas..compare..not expect others to believe as we do. I relate what happened to me. Sky relates what happened to him..likewise Lorelei, Auntie, Lois and everyone else. We listen we see how theirs compares to ours and it helps us to process what we encountered. What we're not looking for is Paul Revere riding through the forum hollering the British are coming... They'd have been here by now even riding slow donkeys. You played with them what..55 years ago or so? That is plenty of time for plans to change or a colony to die out. So many explanations un- explored..they could have lied to you..implanted suggestions..it could have been their brand of humor..it could have been a government experiment or something in the water. You could be spot on, all counts. You believe as you do and we accept that...it's cool. Some will agree with you but what in the world would you expect a hand full of people to do...march on Novato? Take out Cherry Hill with Bobcat's and caterpillars until they level it and chase the hoard out with torches? If you come looking for validation..or get upset because people don't share your belief..then that's very hard for you. Not what a forum is about though. It's to join in discussions and share experiences..not to expect others to jump on your band wagon. You are a history buff..I know Sky enjoys that too, others as well..but I'm not a history buff..I sort of figure the past needs to stay put and the future is going to unwind no matter what..but today is the biggie. I hated history in school too LOL. People here don't share all of my interests either but that's fine..it's great because they have their own beliefs..and interests just like people are supposed to. If we click or share..it's great..but not necessary. I am sorry if you feel people aren't heeding your wisdom..but life is like that..and it's meant to be. And if the greys crawl out of cherry hill and take over California..well..I'll pour myself the first glass of wine I've had in many a year and drink a toast to ole Randy. Count on it. Don't be sad Jo, there is still another nutcase in the forum to talk to ....ME. GOD
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2015 16:46:04 GMT -6
Laughing...unless I take up talking to myself
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Post by casper on Apr 23, 2015 20:03:34 GMT -6
What happened to randy? Did he get leave? Awwww. he had lots of good stories. I liked what he wrote about history. Even skywalker said he didn't know some of that stuff randy was talking about. He had to go look it up.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2015 16:34:25 GMT -6
the forum is dying on its feet going no where. . . . I could have been glorious Paulette told us over 2 years ago that the forum was dead. Gone. no expectations now. Just the whimsy of a few people. Brings to mind the "carelessness" of just going about one's business. How much is this COSTING you, Master Luke? I could have been glorius too. And You. And You. and You. and her. and him. Isn't that the point??
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2015 16:38:18 GMT -6
Everybody knows I'm paranoid. (don't hate the word so much, now ). Guess I should be expecting my walking papers next. Lol.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2015 16:48:06 GMT -6
What happened to randy? Did he get leave? Awwww. he had lots of good stories. I liked what he wrote about history. Even skywalker said he didn't know some of that stuff randy was talking about. He had to go look it up. I'm not 'into' the American History that he was into, but people around me are, so my interest has been uplifted. I didn't like "history" in school, either. "amer. history". too many contradictions. was it Columbus? was it Erik? was it Amerigo? now, give me "World History" . . . LOl. A BUNCH more contradictions. If I continue to "generalize" stuff, especially history, I'm really not getting "the big picture" . I LOVE studying history, now!
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Post by skywalker on Apr 24, 2015 17:45:28 GMT -6
the forum is dying on its feet going no where. . . . I could have been glorious Paulette told us over 2 years ago that the forum was dead. Gone. no expectations now. Just the whimsy of a few people. Brings to mind the "carelessness" of just going about one's business. How much is this COSTING you, Master Luke? I had nothing to do with any of this, Jc. I was just sitting here minding my own business and not bothering anybody. I think each and every person makes an important contribution here. I don't want anybody to leave.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2015 17:54:09 GMT -6
shut me sarcasm down, now (sorry!)
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 0:00:35 GMT -6
My understanding was..that Randy left because people didn't react like he wanted them too. He said he could warn people about the grey's all day long but no one would listen which wasn't true..people have checked out Novato and Cherry Hill and Randy just wouldn't take the next step. No pictures of the 'vents' nothing to help his 'cause' along. If you're going to insist thousands of Grey's are living under Novato..and that you were with them as a child..then go with it. Hypnosis...actually seducing the right people to help you. When people from Mufon wanted to investigate..he found reasons not to join..he'd back off. These 'Randy' stories were circulating around MUFON and the 'other forum'. After awhile...you just lose interest and when people did..he'd get upset and leave for awhile. His history and conspiracy theory sites are his passion..and he must study it constantly but I think he expected more attention from that too. He is a fantastic history buff but not everyone enjoys that..I don't for one. No one asked him to go..as far as I know..he just didn't get the attention he wanted.
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