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Post by litesabre on Jul 21, 2016 7:42:54 GMT -6
So they have mind reading, so they are punctual for the next attack to those abductees in the early stages. In character, they are arrogant, self assured and we know arrogance is a weakness. They depend on a library of sorts that tell them about every part of us, and so they get their self confidence in thinking we are predictable. Young families seem to hold no threat to them, and bedtime seems the window of opportunity for us. They know we will react a certain way. etc,etc. But here's the catch.....
We are unpredictable, and they have machinery that is well protected on the "outside", but I would wager the inside is all out in the open. Here's one way to get them that may call for some sacrifice or injury. The abductees report that they still have use of their fingers. We cannot use electricity has that is disabled. So....
Our strategy is all mechanical, no servos or dependance on anything that forms a barrier between us and the devices. Create a leg cast in two sections. It is a devergence. On board, they curiously would want to know what happened to their treasured patient. (verified) They will come closer and are curious, so as soon has the person can collect her/his thoughts and self control, go into action. The abductee needs to react quickly.
Put munitions in a recess in the cast on the inside. With finger, disconnect a spring loaded catch that seperates the cast. Use cord or physical items to detonate a small bomb, or use a trigger device at arm length, better still a smoke bomb. That will allow time to take out a 45 auto which should be right at her side. It must be an auto has finger strength may be weak. Immediately take out the doctors as they have extraordinary mind powers and are the leaders. They would not have had experience under the stress of violence however as no one would have ever tried this. Surprise,Surprise! Unless small greys react first, take out the electrical panels and vulnerable mechanics. (we need this craft intact, in front of everyone, and absolutely out of the hands of the military for the time being. We absolutely need it in the open, preferably a city for everyone to see). The small greys get canned next as they will most likely run and hide but may try mind action. This activity should release any mind restraint has they will deal with something that "surely" could never happen. An extra clip may be required to ensure the craft gets disabled.
On the table the person should try to knock it over to use has a barrier. He should tilt it toward a wall. Any sense of a mind connect is immediatly handled by a round to the head, and with a large head the person doesn't need to be a marksman. The person will experience more control at this point as their mind is occupied. They as I would be at a heightened state, but needs to be collected.
What is the perceived effect?
CRAFT - It can hang there in suspension, or default to a cosmic tow, ie: auto pilot to return to it's own world through a warp drive. It could crash, bad luck if up some kilometers, not too bad close to earth. Acces to someone on the outside may be a problem.
VICTIM - I don't think the victim is at risk with the aliens, as it is utterly inconceivable to them that we are a threat. He may need to wear ear protection as well in close quarters.
MUNITIONS - Firing rounds in close quarters is risky since they have superior metallury, even detonating devices with percussion effect is unpredictable. Perhaps more directed and shock distorted rounds is a better option, ie:penetration then immediate energy dispersal. This why a 45 auto will be the prime weapon to establish control. A powerful round is better for the machinery however. Machinery that seems to be a key component of motive power like wires that enter, or pipes etc. should be targets. Detonating devices may be an option once it is determined they can be used, or an absolute. Carried in a recess in the plaster cast. Small arms is the initial disturbance weapon i would think.
ALIENS - If control is taken, time to handle the small greys. Through quick mind communication they can get the idea that need to get the craft back to earth or else. Reistance? Bang! Next. They will eventually see what the victim wants, and they will probably know before hand. If a mind conversation of control or devergence ensues, Bang! next.
If I were an abductee and the routine is counted on, I'd be chompin at the bit and find it fascinating that I was selected. I'd be right in there knowing if I succeed the world can gain a better knowledge on how we get off this slowly poisoned planet, or get even with those low lifes. A prime motivator is the thought that some 3 year old is being drilled in the eye or stomach without anesthetics with no one resembling them to help them, and no one will believe them when they return. Or some teen is being impregnated by some alien.
The best weapon they have is no real evidence for us. But if the military does have it, it's high time the people see it to know their kid's stories were true.
Time for war. And we "cave men"(with respect to them) have a few surprises of our own.
If we can't do anything about it, then nothing can be a threat. We then can take this ship home and it shouldn't be an interest to those who already think they are seeing a fantasy, right?
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Post by skywalker on Jul 21, 2016 12:40:51 GMT -6
The problem I see with this scenario is where you said "as soon as the person can gather their thought they can go into action." Having experienced an abduction myself I don't think there is any time that an abductee would be able to gather their thoughts or take any action. I barely even have any conscious memories of what happened. It would seem that whatever type of mind control they use is very effective.
And even if one of their craft where by some miracle to be brought to the ground the military would immediately confiscate it and say that it never happened. The thing could land in the middle of the half-time show at the Super Bowl in front of millions of witnesses and the Feds would say it was just swamp gas or a weather balloon. Never underestimate the ability of the government to tell lies.
Et craft have reportedly crashed in the past but the general public still has no validating confirmation of it.
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Post by litesabre on Jul 21, 2016 15:54:58 GMT -6
The problem I see with this scenario is where you said "as soon as the person can gather their thought they can go into action." Having experienced an abduction myself I don't think there is any time that an abductee would be able to gather their thoughts or take any action. I barely even have any conscious memories of what happened. It would seem that whatever type of mind control they use is very effective. And even if one of their craft where by some miracle to be brought to the ground the military would immediately confiscate it and say that it never happened. The thing could land in the middle of the half-time show at the Super Bowl in front of millions of witnesses and the Feds would say it was just swamp gas or a weather balloon. Never underestimate the ability of the government to tell lies. Et craft have reportedly crashed in the past but the general public still has no validating confirmation of it. Sorry to hear of your experience. I have taken a kean interest of the abducted since the 60's and I believe it. Even prof. Jacob won't outright reject them. I think he sympathizes, but he has gone the way of the 'give up' crowd. They become baggage but show up when someone does all the work and is finally successful. These people start off in a neutral position, promising not to get in the way, but they become the worst critics. The aliens can choose among these groups to enlist help. This is not just an off the cuff opinion, this is a human weakness. The government is expected to do it's best at lying, but these people are non contributers. My point is to find something they did not figure on, and they are not perfect. We may need to approach this differently since we don't know how much the incursion is in the populace. I'm pretty sure every person needs to come up with his own plan. It will be up to us to find the 'one time works' solution. Seems like you resigned yourself to your fate. Like I said, I'd be chompin'. I'd even make my bedroom a hell place, and send the family off for a week. The alien would find nothing out of place for their routine kidnapping. I can think of many scenerios, and it would remind me of my service days. Great fun.! The use of the fingers is true. For some reason they have free movement and so do the eyes. Give me some house hold chemicals and I'll send them back to where they come from, but this time has cosmic dust. Ha!
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Post by patsbox7 on Jul 21, 2016 16:52:03 GMT -6
When are cows going to stop being cattle to us? Never, as we are so much smarter, more advanced and evolved, even if they do advance we will already be thousands of years more advanced when they learn to Moooo in language. Sorry to say, we are in a free range paster that just so happens to be a planet, and will never be able to advance and evolve past them. Never try and control things that are out of your control, and this is one of them. Be happy we get to experience this beautiful thing called life, and who cares if we are just a heard of cattle to them. Doesn't seem as though we are headed to the slaughter house, so I have come to peace knowing I don't know shi* compared to these beings, never to will and it seems as though the worst thing that is happening are our genetics being harvested for the survival of their species. I'm okay with that. Attachments:
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Post by litesabre on Jul 22, 2016 9:00:03 GMT -6
When are cows going to stop being cattle to us? Never, as we are so much smarter, more advanced and evolved, even if they do advance we will already be thousands of years more advanced when they learn to Moooo in language. Sorry to say, we are in a free range paster that just so happens to be a planet, and will never be able to advance and evolve past them. Never try and control things that are out of your control, and this is one of them. Be happy we get to experience this beautiful thing called life, and who cares if we are just a heard of cattle to them. Doesn't seem as though we are headed to the slaughter house, so I have come to peace knowing I don't know shi* compared to these beings, never to will and it seems as though the worst thing that is happening are our genetics being harvested for the survival of their species. I'm okay with that. Good points. Animals have been placed here for food as well. It is a Devine will. But I don't have that luxury to be complacent. I owe it to my/your ancestors to do my best to get these child molesters/torturers to 'cosmic' justice. As Churchill said, and when our task is complete, "this was their finest hour". Only when we have a gun to the doctor's head will they say to themselves, "maybe we should have rethunk our place in the scheme of things?" (they haven't known physical pain for so long, a slow methodical one should be a good experience for them.) Controlling only the things that are under my control is too limiting. If all is hopelessness, then the hopelessness is my fuel. I can be one audacious prick to the rest of the Cosmos when they start feeding themselves with our barbq'd kids or whatever they really do to them. If my misbehaving at least sounds a note of mild interest to them, then I have accomplished something, and I have planted the seed for thought. I believe there is a cosmic protocol that defines decency to created senient aware beings, no matter what form they were given through evolution. It remains a principle regardless of the degree of power they hold. We are working on warp drive systems, and one day we will advance to 10X light speed. Then we will be closer to invading their planet. When we get there we will ask them, "why didn't you share what you had to alleviate the diseases, help us, etc, etc". Then we will apply the justice standard that they established. I do believe there is a God and a universal code of moral conduct, and the Philistines of the galaxy will need to be brought to justice as well. Man has been created for a special mission because we "were create in the image of God". We can't crawl under our blanket because we are here on a mission. Giving up is even betraying God. Thanks for the response.
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Post by skywalker on Jul 22, 2016 21:42:59 GMT -6
What if they are helping us (in their own wacked out way)? Many people who have been abducted report enhanced psychic abilities or half-forgotten "schooling" sessions where they were taught how to survive in a crises situation or how to have more respect for the planet, the universe and each other. People have been taught to stop fighting wars, stop polluting, stop using nuclear weapons. Some people have even reportedly been healed by their abductors. Don't know if any of those reports are true or not but the fact is we don't really understand anything about them or their motives so it might be a little premature to declare war on something we know nothing about. Not that I'm defending the little space pirates or anything. Half the time I would like to throttle them myself. I've always said that they treat us like animals and judging by the title of this thread I would say that you agree. To an animal a veterinarian may seem like some evil torturer when he is actually trying to heal a sickness or injury. A scientist may seem like a vicious predator when he is really trying to save a species from extinction. It would be kind of uncool if we went Rambo on them and it turned out they weren't as bad as we thought they were. It might be a good idea to gain more knowledge about what exactly it is we are dealing with. Then we can decide whether or not it needs to be blown to smithereens.
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Post by lois on Jul 23, 2016 20:04:12 GMT -6
I don't think they come here to destroy us or this planet. Randy seem to have the most contact. I miss him and his stories. If only one of his encounters was true these aliens were not very nice.
I don't seem to be terrified after what I have seen and encountered or I would not be sitting out side at night. We have had the most cloudy skies this summer than I can ever remember having.
One thing they are not going to stop coming here . NEVER. From the cave man down to today is a very long time to witness them. I think what ever purpose it is for the outcome will not harm us or earth.
What I truly believe you have heard a hundred times
They are taking everything here and starting another planet like earth. A earth that is the same as us so everything they do take will survive. In case we are destroy in some way.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2016 12:17:09 GMT -6
I never felt they were arrogant..in fact..I never felt any kind of 'human' emotion from them. Distaste maybe when they had to touch me..or my friend. I'm still convinced that abductee's are selected because of psychic abilities..we can be 'heard'.. There was NO time..not a moment..not a second when my friend or I could have reacted with any form of rebellion OR even question the beings. Mentally they are extraordinary..and they can cause considerable pain to control. They might be physically weak..but their mental capacity more than makes up for it. Of the impressions I did have of them. Nothing might be the best description. No feelings of aggression..no feelings of animosity or any need to 'take over the planet'..they were doing what they needed to do to complete a 'project'...and that wasn't a word I got from them either..my friend who is about as psychic as a block of wood..was harder to control..it took 3 of them. I've been 'psychic' since I can remember and it only took one to make my head feel like it was a tin can being crushed. We are more susceptible to their 'methods'..takes less. We're the ones who see outside the box..we're willing to believe whatever is out there..we believe in possibilities..and probabilities. A lot more can be done with an open mind vs a closed and terrified one. Look at all we do for them...we discuss them...swap notes...keep it alive. I think we're their propaganda machine LOL.
I don't think you need to feel sorry or bad for abductee's..because I think we've all gained in ways we aren't even aware of. We ARE open to all of the possibilities...in fact...we look for them. I don't think I'd trade that..even if I could. We have advantages the rest of the population doesn't..we KNOW it's out there. Don't think in human terms..they just aren't. Not evil..not something you can measure by our standards...and it took me years to figure that out..to understand it. They're not from around here...and our rules just don't apply. And..by the way..we're not cattle...nor is that how we'd be seen.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2016 17:05:56 GMT -6
I do believe there is a God and a universal code of moral conduct, and the Philistines of the galaxy will need to be brought to justice as well. Man has been created for a special mission because we "were create in the image of God". We can't crawl under our blanket because we are here on a mission. Giving up is even betraying God. Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/user/4672/recent#ixzz4FMwd7Wp9***** I've read over this thread a few times, and can't quite decide how to interject here. Skywalkers position is the most shocking. I admire what he wrote, and can relate that what he says is entirely feasible. EXCEPT. . . in relation to his "shark dreams". Do a lot of people who like to scuba dive, have these kind of dreams? Let me be more blunt : is there any way to figure in that dreams of this magnitude and amount are normal? Someone would be tempted to say; "time to do a past - life regression", and see how THIS figures in. . but its not that simple is it? How about this "dream scenario" fed through Skywalkers' brain because everytime his reaction is "something predictable"? Even deeper than that, are these dreams keeping Skywalker successfully out of the water? To what purpose? As much as I like to dwell on the fact that there are always "good guys" (just think how much worse our world COULD BE), there's definitely "something" that makes us clearly aware of certain differences between, well, "the good and the bad".
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2016 17:34:47 GMT -6
"I don't think they come here to destroy us or this planet. Randy seem to have the most contact. I miss him and his stories. If only one of his encounters was true these aliens were not very nice." Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/user/4/recent#ixzz4FN69gzC5**** Lois, you know I miss Randy, too. When I was trying to look up that "Marin civic center ufo", I found that particular post on a couple of other forums; that was all. All we can do is hope he comes on here for a visit every now and then, and sees that he is wanted. Like Jo says, the greys may be "entirely neutral". They may very well be " created beings", created for certain tasks, that allows their "creators" to feel like they (themselves) are not openly harrassing human beings. Have these " creators" lost their semblance of control? or even worse, lost what conscience they once had?
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Post by skywalker on Jul 24, 2016 17:38:46 GMT -6
I started having the shark dreams immediately after my first abduction and almost a decade before I started scuba diving. I doubt that the two are related. As for whether or not the dreams keep me out of the water I would doubt that also. I'm perfectly fine when I'm diving and can see what's going on around me. I've even been diving with sharks before. (not great whites because I'm not stupid or suicidal) What I cannot stand is swimming or floating on top of the water where I can't see what's underneath me. I hate that. Now I don't want anybody jumping to the wrong conclusion and think I'm defending the little gray bleepity-bleeps. I was just saying that some people have reported positive experiences as a result of their abductions. That doesn't mean that I get any warm and fuzzy feelings about them. I personally don't think they are either good or evil. They are just like a bunch of scientists doing their jobs, for better or for worse. I do think it would be wise to find out more about what's going on before blowing stuff up though. It's not a good idea to start a war you can't win. Also I wouldn't really consider us to be cattle either. Lab rats might be more appropriate.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2016 20:54:22 GMT -6
I agree Sky. Lots of abductees do have dreams of critters with big eyes..and sharks..well they're a natural considering our grey 'pals' don't blink and have huge eyes. Or..maybe it's the universe giving tips on how to 'take em out' Poke here LOL. I miss Randy as an addition to the forum, not because I believed him. People did try to find his 'base' in Novato..and didn't succeed. The longer he stayed..the more convoluted the stories became..kids kept in cattle pens (without parents noticing and combing the hills or filing missing kid reports?) Him always as the 'head' kid..it just came across too conspiracy theory..that they 'll rise up out of the base and take over...any time now. Some things...well they just don't pass my radar... I think he may have had an encounter or an abduction and it 'grew'...cause it doesn't fit the pattern of grey abductions. In my opinion. There IS a pattern. I never have felt..manipulated...or persecuted...or hounded by them..nor that I've had anything 'planted'. I think people keep looking for reasons why they're doing what they do..and we'll probably not know that for a long time until they're ready to share if ever. They aren't like us..don't think like us..maybe their ultimate goal is as simple as..an attraction and wanting to 'learn' about the differences between people here. I had the encounter when I was 7ish..when it stuck something in my ear..then when I 'matured' as a teen..(past puberty..with all it's nice changes). I am different than I was. Stronger psychically..physically..and one heck of a lot more open minded. I could handle meeting big foot or ghosts or leprechauns or greys..I have more trouble with humans We humans hatch some long term goals and plots and plans..well some of us do..I never have. I learned as a child not to have goals unless they were the same goals as the other players in my life. I don't think they have bases here. I don't think they are 'training' people to do anything. But I think some might have a need to see some 'big picture'. I think they're just studying. Interested scientists who we just don't dig. And I think they're from a lot closer to home than a planet light years away. I'm still rather fond of the dimensional theory. Close at hand. At any rate..we all took away from it some different ideas and opinions and that's why we compare notes. Mine is so close to Sky's..he see's sharks..I'm more apt to see snakes or grasshoppers. Did we benefit? I think I did..as I said before..I'm one heck of a lot stronger a person than I was...and from that experience I stopped being afraid of my father..I ran away and wouldn't go back until he let me live with my sister...so...yeah...I've had to look back and really think about changes..and I think now..I could never have evolved as I am..even with more tolerance..for others who are different. I don't like em...I don't want to be friends..but they're not evil..they're not taking over the world..and they're not manipulating the government...we could only wish
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2016 23:15:51 GMT -6
That may be the way it works..in our teachings..in our minds. I'm not sure our laws are universal laws..or the laws of God. We know what we've been taught by man...handed down over so very many dry dusty years...and interpreted by man the way man saw it to be. I think when our minds see something it doesn't identify with..it creates something more...plausible? Understandable? Biblical happenings might have been seen on terms the teller could identify with..not necessarily the way they were. I believe in God..absolutely. My faith is unshakable and I have as much faith that the universe is populated by beings many and varied..worlds of indescribable beauty maybe because such beauty could only be felt..not put into words. I know this universe is vast...and our rules may well be for the part of it we know. Hasn't done so well, by the way...there is still vice, murder, mayhem, chaos and corruption..and..the road to better is a long way off. Doesn't mean we have the only story or the only version of the only story. Held accountable? I'm not so sure. They live by different laws..not necessarily the only laws. We have to be flexible enough to realize we just don't have all of the answers...my version isn't your version does that mean one of us has to be wrong? Who is closed minded enough to stand up and say..there is right and there is wrong? Sorry..you're wrong. These creatures brought their game to our planet. I don't think they're trying to teach us their rules..I don't think they give a fig if we grasp them or not..I'm not sure they figure any of the same thoughts we think... didn't seem so. I've a wonderful friend who is a mathematician a PHD and an aeronautical engineer...he's brilliant and I love him to death..but I'm sure he's an alien. No..not a card carrying from outer space visitor..but alien to my mental faculties. Sometimes. He's logical and he's amazing and so good hearted..BUT..I was trying so hard to understand something..some way out there quarky or quazarry thing a ma bob and he just sighed..and said ..'you just don't have the maths to grasp it.' In other words..he has a different language that I can't peer into..not because I'm stupid..but because my mind hasn't been taught to go there or perhaps isn't bent enough to go there. It's ok..I have some tricks he can't grasp either..but I don't tell him that. He has a way of arching a brow and looking down his long nose that just makes me giggle...very disarming. So..they have a language we can't think in yet..and maybe we're just not bent enough to go there either.. We have ego enough to figure they figure like us..but the reality is..they don't. They may not be superior beings but then we're comparing apples and oranges right? It's that way in here sometimes too. I can always grasp what some people are saying...but sometimes others speak in tongues I swear it...and I'm left shaking my head like my dog does when I try to explain something. On the other hand..he knows the words for about 30 different foods...so all hope isn't lost...hopefully for me either...still sometimes I wanta yell..'do I need to buy a vowel? that was english right?' I just assume everyone speaks Jo.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2016 8:31:28 GMT -6
We know what we've been taught by man...handed down over so very many dry dusty years...and interpreted by man the way man saw it to be. I think when our minds see something it doesn't identify with..it creates something more...plausible? Understandable? Biblical happenings might have been seen on terms the teller could identify with..not necessarily the way they were. Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/6569/when-stop-cattle#ixzz4FWZzZrvS***** You have pointedly told us that "man" did not teach YOU, about G-d. Yes, your dad or other family member dropped you off at church, your grdma was "Southern baptist", etc., but you have been so adamant on this over the years, and I believe you 😀. I'm just as positive that there are other people much less exposed to any doctrine, and have found G-d also. Man can try to define Him, put Him in a box, preach whatever they want, and it still never matches the Real Thing. 😉
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2016 8:35:08 GMT -6
I'm sure he's an alien. No..not a card carrying from outer space visitor..but alien to my mental faculties. Sometimes. He's logical and he's amazing and so good hearted..BUT..I was trying so hard to understand something..some way out there quarky or quazarry thing a ma bob and he just sighed..and said ..'you just don't have the maths to grasp it.' Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/6569/when-stop-cattle#ixzz4FWdTCMmJ***** I understand this quite well. I have many (and mini) moments like this. And sometimes, things just "click"!
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Post by patsbox7 on Jul 26, 2016 8:38:05 GMT -6
Great thread! I haven't seen one spark this much input in a while. My favorite part about this forum is we all think so far outside of the box compared to the "normal" ones. However, we all have very different opinions and views from one another, and this is a recipe for intense dialog and at times conflicts of opinions. A good thing when we can be civil with each other and realize this point and respect others views. My personal opinion of the matter is we literally are the equivalent of cattle to them, it seems as though they aren't here to intentionally inflict harm, if and when they do hurt us it seems as though it is simply a side effect. Much like waking up during surgery because they didn't drug you enough. Terrifying and painful yes, intentional no. Like everyone told me when I first had close encounters, this thing will only open more questions than answers. I personally have concluded that "they" personalize each encounter as well. They focused on my ego, and narcissism during my visits as it manipulated me into being a better subject. Keep in mind, whatever answers you get from them are likely purposely injected to make things easier for them. I've said it before and I'll say it again, we are dealing with beings that view Stephen Hawking as a monkey that learned to smear his crap instead of just flinging it. There is no way we can possibly understand their thoughts. Sorry guys. Really trying to tone it down. Practice talking and writing less as I have a tendency to over articulate, and can talk to you for two hours straight without breaking a sweat, or type a three page post without even realizing it. Take care everyone. Lois, you have been in my thoughts and prayers, hope you are doing okay. Sky, JC, Swamp, hope all is well with you guys. If I hit it big one day I'm going to pay for everyone to get together at a swanky resort. First class UFO luxury seats and all. Oh, I'm in CA this week and check out what was in the lot this morning. Yeah, it's worth as much as my house. I don't know why it keeps posting upside down. Whatever.... Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2016 8:57:54 GMT -6
In my opinion. There IS a pattern. I never have felt..manipulated...or persecuted...or hounded by them..nor that I've had anything 'planted'. I think people keep looking for reasons why they're doing what they do..and we'll probably not know that for a long time until they're ready to share if ever. They aren't like us..don't think like us..maybe their ultimate goal is as simple as..an attraction and wanting to 'learn' about the differences between people here. Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/6569/when-stop-cattle#ixzz4FWegMoi4***** I'm glad for you. And I can agree with everything you are saying. I seem to be cutting and pasting to some perceived advantage in speaking that I'm trying to make, when we can simply say that on this subject, my thoughts are "alien". If I didn't know (deep in my gut) that you have psi abilities, AND respect you for many other reasons, I would just "blow you off". Your experience is different than mine. And absolutely more terrifying than being "watched", feeling "stalked", and "manipulated". .. yet, being open-minded, sometimes you push the "benign" card a little too hard. Is that really being open minded? You can be the authority for using "reason" ( we're still here!) on the unknown, and the positive side of "we don't know", MOST of the TIME, for me!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2016 9:17:27 GMT -6
My personal opinion of the matter is we literally are the equivalent of cattle to them Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/6569/when-stop-cattle#ixzz4FWkfsz1X***** My guess on this, is people don't want to say "cattle" because WE use such things for more than just experiments. . . ------- And yeah, obviously for me there are some days that I THINK that I have something to say. Lol. Believe it or not, there are also days when getting words out of me is the last thing on my mind. 🙂 I KNOW I shouldn't be comparing my "humanness" to any 'alien' (whether outer galaxy or dimensional), but its the easiest way to go, right? My point is, I agree with you. Sometimes the "little scientists" have an agenda and will do whatever it takes to get the job done. And sometimes the "little scientists" have an agenda and will do whatever it takes to get the job done. "Whaaaa? Did I just repeat myself?" Ha! It's all in the perception, dude. Sometimes its just an ole "routine" check up. Some of those "routine" ones are just hard to sleep through. 😄
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2016 10:12:55 GMT -6
Like Sky..I consider we're more 'lab rats' to them. Cattle..well that implies a food source and I'm not convinced they fancy a humanity burger...Cattle are (and I know from experience) particularly dumb. Rats are actually quite smart and if you've never met one determined to invade a food source..you're missing a treat. They're persistent and clever. I'd much rather be a rat than a cow.
There are people out there just convinced we're being visited by dozens (literally) of interstellar visitors. Maybe. I've only had contact with one. I have my experiences to draw from..and those I've listened to. Those who end up here in this forum..seem to have encountered the grey's. Most of these people have strong similarities...things in common...rather than things that set them apart. Only in a couple of these have I seen like a 'paranoid' after effect. Yours is different JC...and I can't relate to what you've been through. If I were the sort to compartmentalize things in my brain (and if I do I'm not aware of it) you'd be in a section of your own...not someone who'd fall into the 'similar' category. Apples and oranges.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2016 8:40:51 GMT -6
I can't relate to what I've been through either! Lol. But I do find myself looking for "sameness" instead of differences that we have; even simple things like I photograph cool cars that I see out and about (like Patsbox). I have to try to understand that I DO see the greys, but just in a different way. I see them as slow, sluggish, stumbling zombies, all with the same facial expression, which could be a metaphor for how they present themselves to everybody else. Anyways, they "just keep coming". And by the way, my "zombies" don't look human either; just not as "alien"! The thing is, my "zombies" can be killed by slicing off their heads with a sword! Should be just as easy with a "light sabre"! I dreamed about this (as did my son) waaay before "zombie themes" got popular!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2016 9:02:53 GMT -6
Apples and Oranges. Both sweet fruits. 😀
My "paranoia" is deep-seated. It comes with some sort of angst of "I know I should be doing something "Productive" here; now what was I supposed to do??" Seriously. I can say it is a kin to walking in a room and forgetting why or what you went in there to get. In the moment, you can say "oh well, it will come to me later", and sometimes it does immediately, or you walk in that room again, later that day. And sometimes it still " slips your mind ".
I know there are a couple ( or more) abductees out there that have talked about going through some sort of "training". I do stay away from those accounts, but is this by my own choice? Long before I heard Randy talk about it, l KNEW something about people (sometimes children) being " held" in simple cattle pens. Like why couldn't they just climb the fence?? And more weird stuff that Randy mentioned. Like very vague memories; something I must have just dreamed about.
"They" may be quite capable of altering dreams or otherwise using some sort of "virtual reality". There are some reaally strange cases out there, where someone has been gone from their friends for maybe 15 minutes, but " come back" with 5 days growth of beard. You aren't going to hear about these cases, but is that just because they are so unbelievable?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2016 11:14:44 GMT -6
I've had the 'I should be doing something productive' all of my life...especially lately but I think that comes with our human evolution. Why am I not a rocket scientist? Why no Pulitzer prize? Why wasn't I the one walking on the moon or finding the equation to solve the master problems of the universe? Why am I 'here'...in this place in this time...knowing it's wrong. It's all messed up and I'm not what I should be or where I should be. And very deep inside...I know this. I'm not hunting differences...I'm all the sudden seeing them standing out like someone is saying 'the answer is in the differences...not the similarities'. My mind is too futzed to go on a Grey treasure hunt I guess..I'm doing stupid stuff to combat what I'm not handling well. That slow downward spiral of someone who's been around so long he sits there on my shoulder like another darn head or something. The anger I feel building that he's smoking more not less and breathing less as a result..the self inflicted damage..while trying to struggle with the reality he's made himself. My head's not wrapping around this well. Yesterday I spent hours untangling necklace chains and hunting down matches for earrings I seldom wear. Occupational therapy...exactly. And in the middle of this...differences stick out. One of these pictures is not like the other...etc. There are child tests like that..every picture will be red except one...or 3 trucks and 1 car. In the middle of my earring therapy I found two that were singles but I couldn't bring myself to toss them..like some big inner struggle..so I set them aside. This morning I knew where the mates were and went right to them..tucked together. I'm in a strange zone. Things are nudging me along and I've been controlling so long it's hard to relax and say ok...lets do this your way. So progress is slower..but still progress I'm positive of it. No patience left Loss of sanity eminent? Change is coming..but change can't happen without change..actually that makes sense even though it doesn't seem like it. Change has to happen for change to occur..and I feel it coming..hugely..and that isn't helping. I've been 'protected' in one place for so long..like living in one small bubble..this tiny little ecosystem that is mine. The world occurs around me and I don't hardly ever interact with it. Like being on a 15 year vacation but taking care of my small sphere of people..doing what they need done..day out day in..every day just like it's brother. The words spoken might be different..I may listen to different music..but it's all in the same square footage of my existence. All sorts of flags..change coming. So say my cards..so say my inner promptings..it hangs in the air around me..ghost whisperings of it. So...apples and oranges..someone needs to help me see..what it is about the 'differences' NOT the similarities. grrrrrrr.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2016 12:58:05 GMT -6
~Smiling~ you and I are back to being "opposite" each other 😊. I No worries! If we both were pessi-"mystic" (ooo I like that word) at the same time, who knows what would happen?!
Hang in there, girly; I felt so similar at the beginning of this summer, and it's so much better to be "waiting for change" instead of "waiting for the other shoe to drop". No? We know you've been "waiting in the balance" for much too long. Or is it not long enough. Who knows?
Changing the subject, but yet not, i finally did one of the stupidest things. I lit a cigarette and smoked the whole thing, and thoroughly enjoyed it. Talked with a friend about how I now could truly "feel" all those addicting chemicals; stuff you become so " numb" to, with use. It was novel; after not even having second hand smoke for many years. So smooth.
I felt like ______ for 2 days after. NEVER again.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2016 15:25:39 GMT -6
I sincerely hope my last comments posting here did not offend.
My point is, and was, cigarettes are extremely addicting (and look how many years it took to be admitted?!).
I could not get the "idea" out of my head. I really used to enjoy smoking; so much that I dreamed pleasant dreams about it. I did enjoy this one cigarette; all by myself; leisurely sitting in an air-conditioned car.
I have asthma. I have anemia. So already plenty of trouble getting enough oxygen to body organs. And man invented this. Not just for the pleasure of smoking; but to make money. Really rake it in! No cares!
Addiction knows no age. And now, one of my daughters that long asked me to quit, now smokes. She makes a point of saying "I'm not addicted".
I guess " lying to onesself" is the newest, cool, fad, these days. Right.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2016 13:39:27 GMT -6
Lying to ourselves about any number of thins..isn't new at all. I think it's as old as humanity. Lots of times when I'm feeling stressed..worn out..confused..I'd like to relax and smoke. I know what it would do to my veins, so painstakingly replaced by a very stern doctor who never wants to see me again. So..I don't. I smoked for years but quit over night. Amazing what we can do when we must rather than 'should'. I almost cracked the other night..I'd been pushed about as far as I felt I could be..but I was wrong about that ..turns out I could be shoved a lot further and forgot all about that 'smokey treat'. So..speaking for me...I wasn't offended by your post..I understood it and actually..envied.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 10:37:17 GMT -6
Thanks Jo! If I have to spend part of my life wondering what lab rat test I will have THIS week, G-d sure planned some good "company" for me 😃 😘. "Just an internet friend", or no, she (Jo) sees my "little needs" and responds! Sure, my "needs" are obvious to everyone; but that's the point! AFTER rolling her eyes, she takes the time. Blessings!
As you all know, I have a friend who has COPD, and smokes. Walking in this heat is killing her (a lot of people right now; not literally) and yeah, I'll walk slow with her, but I won't listen to no whining. Nope. We went bowling Monday night, knowing we both have back issues. LOL. It was fun, but I put my foot down on a second game. She "threatened" to go ahead and play a second game by herself?? So, Tuesday, when she text me that she " hoped I wasn't hurting half as bad as her". . . I laughed. Choices. . .
I'm not hurting (from bowling). 😊
Detangling necklaces? A worth while venture, but when you were already stressed? You continue to amaze me.
Absolutely LOVE the story of finding earrings. How it happens, when other people could view it as so meaningless ( the earrings part 🙂), well, you know you still "got game". You've got a personal headset on, and the Coach is whispering in your ear. !
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 11:25:32 GMT -6
Yeah well..one stress sort of balanced out the other...see..one stress I could do something about..it could be fixed. The other..out of my hands and into Gods. I'm guessing he could do necklaces if he wanted to but... has other priorities
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