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Post by swamprat on Jun 30, 2018 20:39:35 GMT -6
Ex-NASA scientist says aliens exist but encounters are covered up by governments Tom Herbert Saturday 30 Jun 2018
A former NASA research scientist believes aliens really are out there and that ‘many governments’ have covered up extraterrestrial encounters. Kevin Knuth, who is now a professor of physics at the University of Albany, claims there is ‘plenty of evidence’ to support the existence of UFOs in our universe. He says humanity needs to ‘face the possibility’ that UFO sightings may be ‘visitors from afar’ and insists more research needs to be done on the topic as it would benefit mankind.
Writing for The Conversation he said: ‘I believe we need to face the possibility that some of the strange flying objects that outperform the best aircraft in our inventory and defy explanation may indeed be visitors from afar – and there’s plenty of evidence to support UFO sightings.’ Knuth believes talking about UFOs is taboo, which has prevented any proper scientific study into the topic and blames governments and the media for the skeptisim that surrounds extraterrestial study. He adds: ‘Essentially, we are told that the topic is nonsense. UFOs are off-limits to serious scientific study and rational discussion, which unfortunately leaves the topic in the domain of fringe and pseudoscientists, many of whom litter the field with conspiracy theories and wild speculation.’
Brazil, Canada, Denmark, Ecuador, France, New Zealand, Sweden, Russia and the UK have been declassifying UFO files for the past decade, and Knuth says UFO sightings from government officials lends legtimacy to the claims. He points towards the Comité de Estudios de Fenómenos Aéreos Anómalos (CEFAA), formed by the Chilean government, and the French Comité de Estudios de Fenómenos Aéreos Anómalos (CEFAA), made up of scientists and military officials, as organisations that provide evidence towards the existence of aliens. Knuth also discusses the ‘Fermi Paradox’ – the question of why we have never heard anything from other civilisations despite the vastness of space almost guaranteeing the existence of extraterrestrial life.
He said it is highly likely aliens are real and that a large number of the 300 billion stars in our galaxy are able to host hospitable planets. ‘The problem is that there has been no single well-documented UFO encounter that would alone qualify as the smoking gun,’ he said. ‘The situation is exacerbated by the fact that many governments around the world have covered up and classified information about such encounters.’ He argues that scientific, evidence-based knowledge of the topic would ‘greatly benefit’ mankind as it could develop technology and knowledge and help us understand our place in the universe.
metro.co.uk/2018/06/30/ex-nasa-scientist-says-aliens-exist-encounters-covered-governments-7672163/
Kevin Knuth is an Associate Professor in the Departments of Physics and Informatics at the University at Albany. He is Editor-in-Chief of the journal Entropy. He is a former NASA research scientist having worked for four years at NASA Ames Research Center in the Intelligent Systems Division. He has 20 years of experience in applying Bayesian and maximum entropy methods to the design of machine learning algorithms for data analysis applied to the physical sciences. His current research interests include the foundations of physics, inference and inquiry, autonomous robotics, and the search for and characterization of extrasolar planets. He has over 100 peer-reviewed publications and has been invited to give over 80 presentations in 13 countries.
theconversation.com/profiles/kevin-knuth-504540
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Post by jcurio on Jul 2, 2018 16:13:52 GMT -6
He argues that scientific, evidence-based knowledge of the topic would ‘greatly benefit’ mankind as it could develop technology and knowledge Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/7898/another-voice-heard#ixzz5K8aAybqW********* I think some people have already made a case for this.... such as G.Hunt Williamson.... in his book “other tongues, other flesh”. 😊. Written many years ago. Other authors have also eluded to being “personally stimulated into certain directions” by dreams and such.... including such topics as cancer research. The hard part, IMO, is finding out EXACTLY what makes a person “Do Something” and find out the repercussions are to benefit mankind. 😁 Any time you talk about it, it seems to have a “paranormal quality” to it. To some people, this idea borders on “the spiritual” and that often makes people uncomfortable. Spiritual things, in turn, may smack too close to former “superstitions”. Especially if people have similar events. 😉 Who wants to seemingly “go back” to having common superstitions??
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Post by swamprat on Jul 5, 2018 9:30:35 GMT -6
Kevin Knuth even got EarthSky's attention! It's beginning to happen, folks! The next thing you can expect is that the deniers and debunkers will rise up. Be prepared; it'll probably get ugly! Have aliens visited Earth? Question worthy of study, says physicistBy EarthSky Voices in HUMAN WORLD | SPACE | July 5, 2018
About 5 percent of all UFO sightings cannot be easily explained by weather or human technology. A physicist argues that there’s compelling evidence to justify serious scientific study and that the skeptics should step aside – for the sake of humanity.
By Kevin Knuth, University at Albany, State University of New York
Are we alone? Unfortunately, neither of the answers feel satisfactory. To be alone in this vast universe is a lonely prospect. On the other hand, if we are not alone and there is someone or something more powerful out there, that too is terrifying.
As a NASA research scientist and now a professor of physics, I attended the 2002 NASA Contact Conference, which focused on serious speculation about extraterrestrials. During the meeting a concerned participant said loudly in a sinister tone, “You have absolutely no idea what is out there!” The silence was palpable as the truth of this statement sunk in. Humans are fearful of extraterrestrials visiting Earth. Perhaps fortunately, the distances between the stars are prohibitively vast. At least this is what we novices, who are just learning to travel into space, tell ourselves.
I have always been interested in UFOs. Of course, there was the excitement that there could be aliens and other living worlds. But more exciting to me was the possibility that interstellar travel was technologically achievable. In 1988, during my second week of graduate school at Montana State University, several students and I were discussing a recent cattle mutilation that was associated with UFOs. A physics professor joined the conversation and told us that he had colleagues working at Malmstrom Air Force Base in Great Falls, Montana, where they were having problems with UFOs shutting down nuclear missiles. At the time I thought this professor was talking nonsense. But 20 years later, I was stunned to see a recording of a press conference featuring several former U.S. Air Force personnel, with a couple from Malmstrom AFB, describing similar occurrences in the 1960s. Clearly there must be something to this.
With July 2 being World UFO Day, it is a good time for society to address the unsettling and refreshing fact we may not be alone. I believe we need to face the possibility that some of the strange flying objects that outperform the best aircraft in our inventory and defy explanation may indeed be visitors from afar – and there’s plenty of evidence to support UFO sightings.
The Fermi paradox The nuclear physicist Enrico Fermi was famous for posing thought-provoking questions. In 1950, at Los Alamos National Laboratory after discussing UFOs over lunch, Fermi asked, “Where is everybody?” He estimated there were about 300 billion stars in the galaxy, many of them billions of years older than the sun, with a large percentage of them likely to host habitable planets. Even if intelligent life developed on a very small percentage of these planets, then there should be a number of intelligent civilizations in the galaxy. Depending on the assumptions, one should expect anywhere from tens to tens of thousands of civilizations.
With the rocket-based technologies that we have developed for space travel, it would take between 5 and 50 million years for a civilization like ours to colonize our Milky Way galaxy. Since this should have happened several times already in the history of our galaxy, one should wonder where is the evidence of these civilizations? This discrepancy between the expectation that there should be evidence of alien civilizations or visitations and the presumption that no visitations have been observed has been dubbed the Fermi Paradox.
Carl Sagan correctly summarized the situation by saying that “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.” The problem is that there has been no single well-documented UFO encounter that would alone qualify as the smoking gun. The situation is exacerbated by the fact that many governments around the world have covered up and classified information about such encounters. But there are enough scraps of evidence that suggest that the problem needs to be open to scientific study.
UFOs, taboo for professional scientists When it comes to science, the scientific method requires hypotheses to be testable so that inferences can be verified. UFO encounters are neither controllable nor repeatable, which makes their study extremely challenging. But the real problem, in my view, is that the UFO topic is taboo.
While the general public has been fascinated with UFOs for decades, our governments, scientists and media have essentially declared that of all the UFO sightings are a result of weather phenomenon or human actions. None are actually extraterrestrial spacecraft. And no aliens have visited Earth. Essentially, we are told that the topic is nonsense. UFOs are off-limits to serious scientific study and rational discussion, which unfortunately leaves the topic in the domain of fringe and pseudoscientists, many of whom litter the field with conspiracy theories and wild speculation.
I think UFO skepticism has become something of a religion with an agenda, discounting the possibility of extraterrestrials without scientific evidence, while often providing silly hypotheses describing only one or two aspects of a UFO encounter reinforcing the popular belief that there is a conspiracy. A scientist must consider all of the possible hypotheses that explain all of the data, and since little is known, the extraterrestrial hypothesis cannot yet be ruled out. In the end, the skeptics often do science a disservice by providing a poor example of how science is to be conducted. The fact is that many of these encounters – still a very small percentage of the total – defy conventional explanation.
The media amplifies the skepticism by publishing information about UFOs when it is exciting, but always with a mocking or whimsical tone and reassuring the public that it can’t possibly be true. But there are credible witnesses and encounters.
Why don’t astronomers see UFOs? I am often asked by friends and colleagues, “Why don’t astronomers see UFOs?” The fact is that they do. In 1977, Peter Sturrock, a professor of space science and astrophysics at Stanford University, mailed 2,611 questionnaires about UFO sightings to members of the American Astronomical Society. He received 1,356 responses from which 62 astronomers – 4.6 percent – reported witnessing or recording inexplicable aerial phenomena. This rate is similar to the approximately five percent of UFO sightings that are never explained.
As expected, Sturrock found that astronomers who witnessed UFOs were more likely to be night sky observers. Over 80 percent of Sturrock’s respondents were willing to study the UFO phenomenon if there was a way to do so. More than half of them felt that the topic deserves to be studied versus 20 percent who felt that it should not. The survey also revealed that younger scientists were more likely to support the study of UFOs.
UFOs have been observed through telescopes. I know of one telescope sighting by an experienced amateur astronomer in which he observed an object shaped like a guitar pick moving through the telescope’s field of view. Further sightings are documented in the book “Wonders in the Sky,” in which the authors compile numerous observations of unexplained aerial phenomena made by astronomers and published in scientific journals throughout the 1700s and 1800s.
Evidence from government and military officers Some of the most convincing observations have come from government officials. In 1997, the Chilean government formed the organization Comité de Estudios de Fenómenos Aéreos Anómalos, or CEFAA, to study UFOs. Last year, CEFAA released footage of a UFO taken with a helicopter-mounted Wescam infrared camera.
Declassified document describing a sighting of a UFO in December 1977, in Bahia, a state in northern Brazil. Image via Arquivo Nacional Collection.
The countries of Brazil, Canada, Denmark, Ecuador, France, New Zealand, Russia, Sweden and the United Kingdom have been declassifying their UFO files since 2008. The French Committee for In-Depth Studies, or COMETA, was an unofficial UFO study group comprised of high-ranking scientists and military officials that studied UFOs in the late 1990s. They released the COMETA Report, which summarized their findings. They concluded that five percent of the encounters were reliable yet inexplicable: The best hypothesis available was that the observed craft were extraterrestrial. They also accused the United States of covering up evidence of UFOs. Iran has been concerned about spherical UFOs observed near nuclear power facilities that they call “CIA drones” which reportedly are about 30 feet in diameter, can achieve speeds up to Mach 10, and can leave the atmosphere. Such speeds are on par with the fastest experimental aircraft, but unthinkable for a sphere without lift surfaces or an obvious propulsion mechanism.
1948 Top Secret USAF UFO extraterrestrial document. Image via United States Air Force.
In December 2017, The New York Times broke a story about the classified Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program, which was a $22 million program run by the former Pentagon official Luis Elizondo and aimed at studying UFOs. Elizondo resigned from running the program protesting extreme secrecy and the lack of funding and support. Following his resignation Elizondo, along with several others from the defense and intelligence community, were recruited by the To the Stars Academy of Arts & Science, which was recently founded by Tom DeLonge to study UFOs and interstellar travel. In conjunction with the launch of the academy, the Pentagon declassified and released three videos of UFO encounters taken with forward-looking infrared cameras mounted on F-18 fighter jets. While there is much excitement about such disclosures, I am reminded of a quote from retired Army Colonel John Alexander:
"Disclosure has happened … I’ve got stacks of generals, including Soviet generals, who’ve come out and said UFOs are real." My point is, how many times do senior officials need to come forward and say that this is real?
A topic worthy of serious study There is a great deal of evidence that a small percentage of these UFO sightings are unidentified structured craft exhibiting flight capabilities beyond any known human technology. While there is no single case for which there exists evidence that would stand up to scientific rigor, there are cases with simultaneous observations by multiple reliable witnesses, along with radar returns and photographic evidence revealing patterns of activity that are compelling.
Declassified information from covert studies is interesting, but not scientifically helpful. This is a topic worthy of open scientific inquiry, until there is a scientific consensus based on evidence rather than prior expectation or belief. If there are indeed extraterrestrial craft visiting Earth, it would greatly benefit us to know about them, their nature and their intent. Moreover, this would present a great opportunity for mankind, promising to expand and advance our knowledge and technology, as well as reshaping our understanding of our place in the universe.
earthsky.org/space/are-we-alone-UFOS-scientific-study-says-physicist
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Post by swamprat on Jul 19, 2018 17:33:05 GMT -6
For anyone in the New York area:The Altamont Enterprise
Letter to the Editor UAlbany astrophysicist to talk on extraterrestrial lifeThursday, July 19, 2018
Dr. Kevin Knuth, an astrophysicist with the University at Albany, will be giving a talk this coming Friday, July 20, at the Carey Institute in Rensselaerville on the ongoing search for exoplanets around other stars in the galaxy and the involvement that he and his research team have had in developing sophisticated detection technology for exoplanet searches.
Dr. Knuth will also discuss the prospects for finding life on some of the newly discovered Earth-like worlds, including the discovery of potential bio-tracers in the planets’ atmospheres.
The Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence is a decades-long program that scans selective stars in the galaxy with the hope of the detecting signals that may be sent out by an advanced extraterrestrial civilization.
Dr. Knuth will discuss this outreach effort, as well as explaining the “Drake Equation” as formulated by Dr. Frank Drake, an early pioneer in the beginning of the SETI program, which seeks to answer the question of the potential existence of advanced civilizations in our galaxy.
Finally, Dr. Knuth will touch on the question of whether or not, we may have been visited by an advanced alien civilization in the past, or if even today the UFO phenomena might be evidence or not for the possibility of ongoing visitation.
Dr. Knuth recently published an article entitled “Are We Alone? The Question is Worthy of Serious Scientific Inquiry,” which has received a lot of attention, and he has gone on world-wide media to both ponder and discuss this most intriguing question.
Dr. Knuth will begin his presentation with a tribute to prolific science and science-fiction author, Isaac Asimov, and his long-time involvement with the former Rensselaerville Institute on Man and Science, forerunner to the Carey Institute.
Dr. Knuth’s free-talk will be given starting at 8 p.m. on July 20 in the Guggenheim Theater of the Carey Institute. Following Dr. Knuth’s talk, a public reception will be held at the Carriage-House Restaurant on the grounds of the Carey Institute.
A $10 donation will go towards the support of the Helderberg Earth & Sky Observatory, which is sponsoring the event.
An Astronomy-related gift will be given to each person who attends.
Beside the food and drinks, served on the large outdoor patio, Helderberg Earth & Sky Science Center members will have several large telescopes set-up for viewing of the moon, planets (Mars is close to the Earth), and deep-sky objects in the dark Rensselaerville area skies.
This promises to be one of the most intriguing science-related public events scheduled for the area this season.
Ron Barnell President Helderberg Earth & Sky Observatory Association
altamontenterprise.com/07192018/ualbany-astrophysicist-talk-extraterrestrial-life
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Post by swamprat on Dec 3, 2018 19:17:59 GMT -6
NASA scientist says Earth may have been visited by aliensBy Chris Ciaccia | Fox News, Dec. 3, 2018
NASA was set up in part to find traces of extraterrestrial life in the universe. While the government space agency has yet to find any definitive evidence that extraterrestrials exist, one NASA scientist believes we may have already been visited by them here on Earth.
In a new research paper, Silvano P. Colombano, who in addition to being a computer scientist at NASA Ames Research Center, is also a professor, theorizes that intelligent life may not be what we are used to and may not necessarily use the traditional building blocks of that humanity is accustomed to, such as carbon.
"I simply want to point out the fact that the intelligence we might find and that might choose to find us (if it hasn’t already) might not be at all be produced by carbon based organisms like us," Colombano wrote in the paper. So if extraterrestrials are not carbon-based, what does that do to our assumptions about what to look for? Well, a lot, Colombano noted.
"Our typical life-spans would no longer be a limitation (although even these could be dealt with multi-generational missions or suspended animation), and the size of the 'explorer' might be that of an extremely tiny super-intelligent entity," Colombano added in the paper.
Colombano also suggests that extraterrestrials may have figured out technology that humans can not comprehend yet, making tasks such as interstellar travel possible. "If we adopt a new set of assumptions about what forms of higher intelligence and technology we might find, some of those phenomena might fit specific hypotheses, and we could start some serious enquiry," he suggested.
Still, the scientist concedes that interstellar travel could be "an unbreakable barrier, over spans of thousands of years," though he added that interstellar journey could be possible depending on what we assume about various forms of life. "Considering further that technological development in our civilization started only about 10K years ago and has seen the rise of scientific methodologies only in the past 500 years, we can surmise that we might have a real problem in predicting technological evolution even for the next thousand years, let alone 6 Million times that amount!" he explained.
Colombano, who holds a doctorate in biophysical sciences according to his LinkedIn page, also said that not every UFO sighting can be "explained or denied" and asked people to look through the "very large of amount of 'noise' when it comes to reporting on the subject.
www.foxnews.com/science/nasa-scientist-says-earth-may-have-been-visited-by-aliens?intcmp=ob_article_footer_text&intcmp=obnetwork
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Post by jcurio on Dec 4, 2018 7:48:04 GMT -6
Considering further that technological development in our civilization started only about 10K years ago and has seen the rise of scientific methodologies only in the past 500 years, Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/7898/another-voice-heard#ixzz5Yis9DO7z_______________________ We are continuously trying to debunk the 10 K years quote. Does that change everything else said here?
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Post by skywalker on Dec 4, 2018 13:02:57 GMT -6
Would aliens really want to colonize other planets? With 300 plus million or billion or whatever planets out there why would they want to colonize all of them? Or any of them even? Especially if they have the technology to zip around in space whenever they choose. Just because we puny humans might do something that doesn't mean another ET rece would do the same thing.
Visiting a bunch of planets sounds more plausible but why colonization?
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Post by swamprat on Dec 6, 2018 10:49:32 GMT -6
Uh oh! Not so fast, says Colombano! Here's the Truth Behind a NASA Document on Aliens Visiting EarthBy Rafi Letzter, Staff Writer | December 5, 2018
Fox News published a startling article Monday (Dec. 3) with the headline "NASA scientist says Earth may have been visited by aliens." Unsurprisingly, that news rocketed around the web, with similar articles soon turning up in the New York Post, Russia Today and The Daily Wire. (Fox appears to have been the first major U.S. news source to run with the story.)
These articles are based on a document on NASA's website by Silvano Colombano, a researcher at NASA's Ames Research Center in Mountain View, California. It really does argue that scientists should at least take seriously the notion that aliens may have visited planet Earth. But Colombano told Live Science that the coverage on Fox News and elsewhere misrepresented what he was trying to say when he wrote it.
"It is not accurately represented," he said. "My perspective was simply that reports of unidentified aerial phenomena should be the object of serious study, even if the chance of identification of some alien technology is very small."
There's some nuance here. Colombano really does believe, as Fox News wrote, that aliens "may" have visited planet Earth. As in, it's theoretically possible that this has happened, not entirely impossible, and worth looking for evidence that it has. But that's not the same as expecting to actually find any such evidence, or believing that there's a good chance aliens are scuttling around under our noses — an impression you might get if you read Fox News's article.
Though Colombano's name and email address appear right on top of the document, he said Fox News did not contact him before publishing their story. (Live Science has reached out to Fox News to confirm this, but has not yet heard back.) Fox described the document as a "new research paper" — a term usually used to describe formal articles intended for publication in research journals and making conclusions based on evidence and the scientific method.
But that's not what this document is.
"The context was a presentation delivered last spring at a meeting of the SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) Institute," he said.
SETI is an organization devoted to the hunt for alien life, mostly by scanning radio signals from space for evidence of biological origin.
"The meeting was to get feedback from scientists as to future directions for the Institute's research program," Colombano said.
The document accompanied a talk he gave in which he suggested that perhaps the notion of aliens visiting Earth isn't quite as ridiculous as most scientists believe, and that SETI might devote some resources to systematically hunting through UFO reports and other data for evidence that this has happened — to hunt for a faint, unlikely signal in a lot of messy noise.
In other words, it was a speculative piece of writing intended to persuade other scientists to spend their resources on a long-shot project — not an argument about whether or not aliens have actually visited Earth. Colombano's position is that it's possible, but not necessarily likely.
www.livescience.com/64237-nasa-aliens-fox-news.html
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Post by skywalker on Dec 6, 2018 19:57:06 GMT -6
This is what they call CYA...as is the scientist is covering his.
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Post by plutronus on Dec 7, 2018 4:54:31 GMT -6
<<< - JCurio said
I think some people have already made a case for this.... such as George-Hunt Williamson.... in his book “other tongues, other flesh”. 😊. Written many years ago. >>>
Back in 1998, I was undergoing some form of 'mind-control' so-to-speak and for lack of a better description. I was also in a very heightened psychic state during that period. Anything I desired to know, would..? majically become known to me through various channels of apparently random activity. At that time, I was ardently following the alien 'psychic trail' to where ever it deemed to guide me. I say that I was under some form of 'mind-control' as something had happened one evening where I was modifying a two axis digital camera experiment that I had cobbled together. The experimental linux controlled computerized digital camera experiment, was an attempt to further explain, pseudo-scientifically, that photo-orbs, were in fact tiny objects located close the camera lens that was imaging the objects and that appeared in post acquistion images as being 'orbs'. I desired to prove myself that the objects were not **ALL** actually dust motes or other random natural occurance airborne particles in the atmosphere surrounding camera lens.
After the event, which is outside the scope here, I became obsessed with a woman, whom I barely knew, and frankly would not have under normal circumstance have any interest for, and couple that with the fact that I was living happily with my wife of 35 years, making the obsession very strange. I later came to find a website, by the moniker of "Alien Love Bite" hosted by psychic Eve Lorgren. I was drawn to her website psychically. I initiated discussion with her. At that time I was very actively promoting the SETV search model and my concepts for implementing and deploying autonomous instrumentation platforms for detecting, sensing and data-logging alien craft behaviors. I know they are fiddling with us.
I started a chat with Lorgren regarding my multiple instrumentation platform experiments for studying all the forms of orbs that I suspect exist. I described one time my ETp luminous-orb experiment instrument platform, after which Eve Lorgren, asked 'why do something like that? Its already been done!!' I replied, 'by who?' and she told me by an engineer named George-Hunt Williamson, and his experiment was done sometime around 1972.
I did not know who the fellow was, but purportedly being an engineer, such as myself, I was interested to know more as there are so few technically oriented people conducting technical Near Earth ET Studies?!! I popped the name "George-Hunt Williamson" into the search-key field of the old InkoTomi search engine (back when the InterNet was still **free** and search engines actually indexed the World's InterNet unlike the US only corporatized yellow-pages(tm)(reg)(c) of the 4% of the 'Net that remains visible today). Numerous URL website hits returned, many of which I had over the years avoided, as I was only interested in technical aspects of alien presence, not those apparently seamy, nebulous, squirally, 'I was screwed by a hot alien babe wearing a red dress' type info revealations. GHW had written a number of books, in that category one or which being, "other tongues, other flesh". I previously avoided anything to do with those type information. In my, then, opinion, all of that type info I considered to be BS.
One of the URLs stood out to me. It was around 2:00am, I was sitting at my desk in my electronics laboratory, in the dark, viewing the web on a 17 inch ViewSonic CRT monitor (1998). I clicked on one of the returned search-engine URLs, and simultaneously, as the page loaded, I both heard and felt a powerfull 'clap' sound which seemed to happen somewhere just over my right shoulder, up about 2 feet over my head. Along with the clap sound, my body experienced a powerfull feeling vibration, not unlike being electrocuted (I've done that accidentally a few times) by alternating-current (AC...wall plug current), but the vibration wasn't isolated, I felt it throughout my entire body...my nose, lips, ears, fingers, in my 'main-vein' and his two buddies, toes, chest, head...everywhere. It was powerful!! Between my face and the moniter screen, about two feet, half way, a foot long, effervescentally green glowing, Right-Eye-Of-Horus symbol appeared. It looked like it was green glowing ionized gas.
I was amazed by this exhibition. I had never seen anything like it before, and have not since. It had the appearance of a glass tube encased neon-sign one may see inside bars, only there was no glass housing the glowing seemingly 'ionized gas'. It was bright, but not blindingly. I could see through the 'eye', and it exhibited perspective.
As the page continued to load, the Right-Eye-Of-Horus symbol began to fade and as it faded so did my body's sensation of tingling subside, until both the 'Eye' and the tingling had ceased altogether. The webpage that loaded, was about three normal size 8 and a half pages long, three screens worth. On each page along the bottom edge, there was located a little green Right-Eye-Of-Horus symbol. On the first page was a description of Michael K. Bender, of the Men-In-Black fame, the second page described alien police/enforcers which are supposedly the MIB and who appear when an eye-witness sees something that ET don't want to be revealed. And then third page described George-Hunt Williamson, a Lockheed engineer, who designed and fabricated a gadget very similar to several of my gadgets. Williamson, ran his experiments a few times and then out of the blue was accused of sexual child abuse. He lost his job, was harrassed by the police for several years, and then all the charges were anonymously dropped, it all vanished like a fart-in-the-wind. One day, very depressed, Williamson, in his automobile, starting in Burbank California, drove aimlessly for weeks, crossing the US, until, he drove up, randomly selecting a driveway, in Kentucky. The house and the outside fence he had 'seen' in numerous dreams. Knocking on the door, he was met by Don Elkins (Ph.D. physics), of Elkin's "RA Material" channel team!!
I don't know how to interpret any of this. But the entire experience is that of high-strangeness and is archetypal of authentic alien contact.
Horus, was noted as the most important ancient Egyptian GOD, cca 20,000 ya. Horus was the son of the Gods Isis and Osiris. At the moment my Mother passed away, she came to me in a vision, as Isis.
Right-Eye-Of-Horus symbol:
A fair description of the ancient Egyptian Eye-Of-Horus mythology:
A psychological theory as to the meaning of the Right-Eye-Of-Horus is:
The Right-Eye-of-Horus represents concrete factual information controlled by the left brain. It deals with words, letters, and numbers and those things which are describable in terms of sentences or complete thoughts. It approaches the universe in terms of male oriented ideation.
The "Law of One" books were channeled by L/L Research (Carla Rueckert, Don Elkins, and Jim McCarty) between 1981 and 1984.
George-Hunt Williamson
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Post by jcurio on Dec 7, 2018 8:45:15 GMT -6
Egyptian mythology is the collection of myths from ancient Egypt, which describe the actions of the Egyptian gods as a means of understanding the world. The beliefs that these myths express are an important part of ancient Egyptian religion. Myths appear frequently in Egyptian writings and art, particularly in short stories and in religious material such as hymns, ritual texts, funerary texts, and temple decoration. These sources rarely contain a complete account of a myth and often describe only brief fragments.
Inspired by the cycles of nature, the Egyptians saw time in the present as a series of recurring patterns, whereas the earliest periods of time were linear. Myths are set in these earliest times, and myth sets the pattern for the cycles of the present. Present events repeat the events of myth, and in doing so renew maat, the fundamental order of the universe. _____________________
As far as I know, there are “publicly” no “church buildings” that have a place of worship for Egyptian religion. However, along roads in the local 20 miles, are those small road signs of “who” sponsors litter pick/up on certain parts of the road. I see things like “ daughters of Set”, and another one that mentions “maAt”. The idea being that there ARE worshippers of Egyptian religion in my area.
(I’ll have to come back to this... gotta go....).
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Post by plutronus on Dec 7, 2018 18:10:20 GMT -6
Egyptian mythology is the collection of myths from ancient Egypt, which describe the actions of the Egyptian gods as a means of understanding the world. The beliefs that these myths express are an important part of ancient Egyptian religion. Myths appear frequently in Egyptian writings and art, particularly in short stories and in religious material such as hymns, ritual texts, funerary texts, and temple decoration. These sources rarely contain a complete account of a myth and often describe only brief fragments. Inspired by the cycles of nature, the Egyptians saw time in the present as a series of recurring patterns, whereas the earliest periods of time were linear. Myths are set in these earliest times, and myth sets the pattern for the cycles of the present. Present events repeat the events of myth, and in doing so renew maat, the fundamental order of the universe. _____________________ As far as I know, there are “publicly” no “church buildings” that have a place of worship for Egyptian religion. However, along roads in the local 20 miles, are those small road signs of “who” sponsors litter pick/up on certain parts of the road. I see things like “ daughters of Set”, and another one that mentions “maAt”. The idea being that there ARE worshippers of Egyptian religion in my area. (I’ll have to come back to this... gotta go....).
>>Egyptian mythology is the collection of myths from ancient Egypt,
>>which describe the actions of the Egyptian gods as a means of
>>understanding the world.
Enki, a dragon...a reptillian, the very one that created the Humanubis (documented on the Tarot, Key 10, as the red Hermanubis with the jackal like ears), created the Human prototype, eg., was the Father of Humanity, told me a different story. Yep, still alive. Reptilians have solved the aging problem, they live very long life-times...40 ~ 50 thousand years type life-terms, just as is indicated in the Kings' list of the Embla Library, the sister library to the Alexandrian Library of the same period. The myths of ancient Egypt had basis in reality.. The Eye of Horus that I saw, was 'real', which in my mind, suggests that there is something happening in this area re; ET presence and one that many modern day Humans and academics alike are essentially clueless about. Don't believe everything the experts tell ya or promote as being the absolute truth or from me either. I'm just following the trail and apparently a few crumbs are dropped here and there for me to find. It is tantalizing while frustrating. The 'experts' are mostly guessing, fitting broken, missing peices of an ancient puzzle, trying to make sense of a long lost world of thinking using modern day thought and trying to encapsulate it all in a modern framework of understanding, and lots of dummies believe it. Its likely mostly BS.
A good book, although it misses the obvious psionic aspect, which I recommend for the curious, is R.A. Boulay's (multiple Ph.D.), wrote,"Flying Serpents and Dragons - The Story of Mankind's Reptillian Past".
"Rene Andrew Boulay graduated from George Washington University in 1950 where he did his graduate work in history. He joined the National Security Agency as a cryptologist and intelligence reporter where he worked in various analytical activities. Mr. Boulay also taught at the National Cryptologic School. The study of ancient history has always been his avocation and upon retiring from government service in 1979 has devoted his energies to solving the puzzles and mysteries of history. The culmination of over ten years of research was the publication of (1st edition) "Flying Serpents and Dragons" in 1990. Dr. Boulay passed away in 2005." Book's author auto-biography.
So here we have an academic historian, a Human anthropologist and a trained cryptographer, an expert with that special gift of being able to recognize patterns that are intended to conceal information, who went out in search of ancient Human history and then following many years of study, concluded that Humans were created by Reptilians in the area of ancient Egypt.
You wanna know something about ancient Egypt? Read Dr. Boulay's book. I've read numerous ancient Egyptian history books, and Boulay's book is the best informed I've seen so far. Plus...Enki told me the same story..
>>that have a place of worship for Egyptian religion.
Nesotarians, were the pre-Christians of today, they still practice although have changed their name.
Another form of ancient Egyptian doctrine that is still practiced, is that of AMORC. I was reared in this doctrine from 4yro, by (5 generations) Mason and Rosicrucian family members. AMORC teaches ascension. Rosicrucians don't recognize the doctrine as being a faith-based 'religion' as faith isn't practiced, but rather psychic procedures are taught, then it is up to the student to learn how to access the 12 gates. I am no longer associated with AMORC, however, I am a member of another, more secretive Rosicrucian group.
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Post by jcurio on Dec 7, 2018 20:16:48 GMT -6
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Post by jcurio on Dec 7, 2018 20:37:32 GMT -6
archive.org/stream/vedantaforthewes029280mbp/vedantaforthewes029280mbp_djvu.txt——————————- This is interesting...... but I do not think for one second that human beings are “divine” 😊 ——————————— “In Huxley's 1944 essay in Vedanta and the West, he describes The Minimum Working Hypothesis; the basic outline of the perennial philosophy found in all the mystic branches of the religions of the world: That there is a Godhead or Ground, which is the unmanifested principle of all manifestation. That the Ground is transcendent and immanent. That it is possible for human beings to love, know and, from virtually, to become actually identified with the Ground. That to achieve this unitive knowledge, to realize this supreme identity, is the final end and purpose of human existence. That there is a Law or Dharma, which must be obeyed, a Tao or Way, which must be followed, if men are to achieve their final end. ***************************
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Post by jcurio on Dec 7, 2018 20:46:48 GMT -6
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Post by jcurio on Dec 7, 2018 20:55:17 GMT -6
however, I am a member of another, more secretive Rosicrucian group. Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/7898/another-voice-heard?page=1#ixzz5Z3aZixBZ__________________ And, the question is always going to be, from me, “Why so secretive?” Understanding, only, that the time to be “secretive”, is usually fleeting. In Christian circles, “secretive” is, and has been, used, to avoid persecution. Avoid persecution, while still spreading the Word, when “openings” are made by the Holy Spirit. 😉
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Post by jcurio on Dec 7, 2018 21:00:00 GMT -6
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Post by jcurio on Dec 7, 2018 21:11:16 GMT -6
My favorite (incomplete) story about Egypt is the story of Moses.
I find it especially “enthralling” because his birth and exodus were predicted by Egyptian seers. They did what they could to try and keep it from happening. But not knowing the details, he grew up among their own ranks.
Moses knew their ways, experienced their great power and magic, but ultimately chose the way of the compassionate heart. Amazing!
Moses had no “claim” about being “divine”. He was lead.
Whether you believe the “story” of Moses and Egypt, as a myth?
The ultimate question for all of us, plutronus, is “Where are You Lead To?”
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Post by jcurio on Dec 11, 2018 8:09:23 GMT -6
Humans and academics alike are essentially clueless about. Don't believe everything the experts tell ya or promote as being the absolute truth or from me either. Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/7898/another-voice-heard#ixzz5ZNpmeqdu______________________ No worries. Nestorians? Ha! A lot of people have “their own take” on Christianity. What I like about You, especially, is you seem to be always “renewing your mind” 🤗. You are probably sharp on a lot of topics. When I’m sick, bodily, my brain acts “sick” too. Sluggish. In a fog. It’s only been this last episode of low ferritin that made me realize that “seeing things”, like shadows around objects, is probably because my entire body is so tired. (I have trouble absorbing iron as I should. Other nutrients? IDK). It scares me when my brain acts tired. You, you’ve had some major illnesses and stress, and you bounce back every time! Is there a “brain pill” that you recommend?
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Post by swamprat on Dec 23, 2018 11:37:48 GMT -6
SETI, you are dismissedBy Billy Cox Saturday, Dec 22, 2018
If the SETI Institute wants to continue be relevant, maybe the first thing it should do is consider retiring its 75-year-old director, Seth Shostak. It’s been obvious from the Institute’s inception that the eloquent and amicable astronomer has never been serious about employing every available resource to conduct a thorough search for extraterrestrial intelligence. But given his bizarre response to a modest proposal from NASA robotics scientist Silvano Colombano, it’s pretty clear that one of astronomy’s most visible opinion-shapers has pulled a year-long Rumpelstiltskin. And with an issue of this magnitude, you actually kinda do want the guy at the wheel to be fully alert.
On Dec. 3, Fox News publicized a paper Colombano produced earlier this year called “New Assumptions To Guide SETI Research.” Noting the hundreds of new extrasolar planets discovered by the Kepler telescope, Colombano suggested that, given the theoretical limitations of interstellar travel, the sort of ETI we might discover – or the sort of ETI that might discover us – could well be artificial intelligence, dispatched by mortal carbon-based life forms like us.
This isn’t news. Sci-fi writers were positing the idea in the 19th century. In 2003, NASA historian Steven Dick wrote that SETI should expand its target list to include robotics, because “postbiologicals would not be confined to planetary surfaces, they might be more likely to roam the universe than to send signals.”
The new angle is how another NASA guy decided to mildly upbraid SETI for ignoring the UFO issue, which might well take the form of AI. “Consider the UFO phenomenon worthy of study in the context of a system with very low signal to noise ratio,” he wrote, “but nevertheless with the possibility of challenging some of our assumptions and pointing to new possibilities for communication and discovery.” He suggested SETI take a look at “several existing data bases such as the 130,000 pages of declassified U.S. Air Force documents, National UFO Reporting Center Database and several other international data bases.”
Shostak, of course, would have none of that nonsense, and he dusted off the usual canned quotes in a piece he wrote for SF Gate. “Professional researchers are not easily persuaded by eyewitness testimony, blobby photos, or” blahblahblah etc. He did concede that Colombano might be onto something with the AI ET theory. “But the more appealing thought for many people is that we’re being visited now. Of course, a scientist would consider such a suggestion of interest only if it could be corroborated by observation. Bright ideas are nice, but evidence rules.”
Evidence? Like the 2004 Nimitz/Tic Tac incident, or the Pentagon’s $22 million UFO research program in the New York Times that galvanized world attention last December? Or the accompanying jet fighter videos that amazed the pursuing Navy pilots? That kind of evidence? No, not interesting enough for Shotak, who didn’t see fit to even bring it into the conversation. However, it should also be noted here that Colombano hadn’t gotten the memo, either.
“I was unaware of the NY Times report,” he said in an email to De Void. “No, my position paper came solely out of my own understanding of the issues related to SETI research, and yes, my views have been evolving for several years, but purely on the basis of the science involved rather than my meager acquaintance with the UFO phenomena.”
Science — that thing Shostak always likes to talk about. Anyhow, during a 12/13/18 podcast interview with Black Vault founder John Greenwald, Shostak was quite emphatic about never seeing any compelling UFO images in declaring that all efforts to find suggestive cases “always come up blank.
“Ninety percent are prosaic and 10 percent of them are unexplained, but that doesn’t mean they’re UFOs.” (Umm, yes it does.) “The fact that 10 percent of them are unexplained doesn’t really mean much … Ten percent of the murders in this city are unexplained, too, but that doesn’t mean that aliens are murdering people, it just means that we haven’t solved those particular murders.” (Someone actually says space aliens are murdering the residents of Mountain View, Calif.? Who?)
Shostak added that UFO research “has been done over and over and over again, always with the same results.” (Just like SETI?) “So the question is, is it worth doing again?” (SETI thinks so.) “Well, if somebody wants to spend the money to do it, I don’t know that the SETI Institute will be doing it anytime soon – if ever – because there’s not the expertise. The kind of expertise you need for this sort of thing is not the sort of thing that an astronomer would have, for example.”
Holy cow! This may have been the most accurate thing Shostak said all night. After decades of dismissing UFOs as delusions, hoaxes, and fairy tales, now he tells us astronomers lack the expertise to study these things? Then why has the SETI Institute been allowed to get away with trying to convince the world that UFO reports are garbage?
Here’s the point. The Times story – which neither Shostak nor Colombano apparently know anything about – was a game-changer. There are discreet, behind-the-scenes congressional queries into The Great Taboo underway. And the face of SETI has finally admitted his professional discipline is unqualified to evaluate the data? A few options come immediately to mind: 1) the SETI Institute has no standing when it comes to investigating the big picture, 2) it needs to add “Limited” on the front end of its acronym, and/or 3) Shostak needs to get out of the way so that professional colleagues who beg to differ can be guided by the full spectrum of evidence, not by willfully uninformed dogma. As it stands now, the SETI Institute has nothing to contribute.
devoid.blogs.heraldtribune.com/author/cox/
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