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Post by auntym on Jul 7, 2011 14:06:11 GMT -6
www.openminds.tv/top-ufo-roswell-researchers-728/ Top Roswell researchers on UFO panel for first timeAlejandro Rojas | Jul 05, 2011 Panelists from left: Frank Kimbler, Kevin Randle, Don Schmitt, Tom Carey, and Stanton Friedman. (image credit: Alejandro Rojas) Roswell is a household name, and mostly due to the research of a handful of men. Four of the top Roswell researchers met this past Saturday at the Roswell UFO Museum during their annual festival along with a gentleman with a new discovery. These four researchers have never been together on a panel before. The panel included nuclear physicist, Stanton Friedman, Don Schmitt, Tom Carey, Kevin Randle, and Frank Kimbler. Although the incident took place in 1947, once the Air Force claimed they had mistaken pieces of a weather balloon for a crashed flying saucer, the story quickly faded away. However, Friedman shared how he rekindled this case. In 1978, embarrassed for making Friedman wait for an interview, a Baton Rouge, Louisiana TV station manager gave him a tip. He told Friedman that he should contact one of his ham radio buddies for information on UFOs. This buddy turned out to be Jesse Marcel, the Air Force intelligence officer who was the first to look at the debris. He told Friedman about the strange properties of the material and that it was definitely no balloon. Friedman enlisted the help of a fellow researcher, Bill Moore, and within a couple of years they had located over 60 other witnesses. This work all culminated into the book, The Roswell Incident, written by Bill Moore and Charles Berlitz, and featuring Friedman’s work. FOR MORE PICTURES & TO CONTINUE READING CLICK ON ABOVE LINK
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Post by skywalker on Jul 8, 2011 18:46:43 GMT -6
That's the first I have heard of a so-called "scorch pattern." How exactly could somebody detect a 60+ year old scorch pattern with an infra-red satellite anyway? What could he possibly have seen after all of that time? I'll be interested in seeing the results of that investiagtion if it ever gets published. It sounds like it has potential.
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Post by skywalker on Jul 8, 2011 18:49:32 GMT -6
I wish I could have made it out to that UFO festival this year. I would have asked him all of those questions in person. I'm definitely going next year. I'll quit my job if I have to but I am going to be there.
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Post by auntym on Jul 12, 2011 19:25:55 GMT -6
www.openminds.tv/test-confirms-roswell-debris-733/ Test confirms Roswell debris is not from Earth[/color] Alejandro Rojas | Jul 12, 2011 The artifact that has been analyzed. Specimen size about 10 mm long. End fragment clipped off for testing. (image credit: Frank Kimbler) A teacher at the New Mexico Military Institute in Roswell may have discovered the first scientific evidence of manufactured debris made on another planet. Furthermore, this debris was found near the location where pieces from an alleged flying saucer were discovered outside of Roswell in 1947. Frank Kimbler teaches high school level Earth Sciences and college level Geology at the New Mexico Military Institute in Roswell. He says he has always had an interest in UFOs, and actually had his own unusual sighting in his twenties. So when he moved to Roswell, he decided to put his expertise to the test and take a shot at investigating the most famous UFO incident of all time, the crash at Roswell. He says his main goal was to find some physical evidence. He started by looking at some satellite imagery of the alleged “debris site.” This is where rancher, Mac Brazel, had told the Air Force he had found pieces of the crashed object. Kimbler used these images to enhance the infra-red in order to highlight areas where the ground was disturbed. He was surprised to find an area that was similar to what witnesses had described. It was about ¾ of a mile long and a few hundred feet wide, and facing the direction witnesses had reported. He also noticed this area had very straight edges, something unusual for a natural occurrence. His next step was to get out there with a metal detector to see what he could find. He began making trips to the site in May 2010. Using a metal detector that could find a piece the size of a BB, three inches below the surface, he would be able to find small pieces, which was exactly his goal. In previous archeological digs in the area they had sifted dirt through screens with holes large enough for very small pieces to fall through. Kimbler figured that if there was anything left it would be very small and perhaps in animal burrows, or ant hills. An ant hill was actually where he found his first piece. TO SEE MORE PICTURES & CONTINUE READING CLICK ON ABOVE LINK
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Post by Steve on Jul 12, 2011 19:54:05 GMT -6
Eureka! Hope Phil Klass is doing a spin cycle in his grave! Steve
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Post by Steve on Jul 13, 2011 1:08:55 GMT -6
Importantly, here is the full article with the scientific data. The heart of the matter, the methodology in the debris search, and the first laboratory analysis of the isotopic testing. Finally, could this be the Roswell smoking gun? Test confirms Roswell debris is not from Earth Alejandro Rojas | Jul 12, 2011 The artifact that has been analyzed. Specimen size about 10 mm long. End fragment clipped off for testing. (image credit: Frank Kimbler) A teacher at the New Mexico Military Institute in Roswell may have discovered the first scientific evidence of manufactured debris made on another planet. Furthermore, this debris was found near the location where pieces from an alleged flying saucer were discovered outside of Roswell in 1947. Frank Kimbler (image credit: Alejandro Rojas) Frank Kimbler teaches high school level Earth Sciences and college level Geology at the New Mexico Military Institute in Roswell. He says he has always had an interest in UFOs, and actually had his own unusual sighting in his twenties. So when he moved to Roswell, he decided to put his expertise to the test and take a shot at investigating the most famous UFO incident of all time, the crash at Roswell. He says his main goal was to find some physical evidence. He started by looking at some satellite imagery of the alleged “debris site.” This is where rancher, Mac Brazel, had told the Air Force he had found pieces of the crashed object. Kimbler used these images to enhance the infra-red in order to highlight areas where the ground was disturbed. He was surprised to find an area that was similar to what witnesses had described. It was about ¾ of a mile long and a few hundred feet wide, and facing the direction witnesses had reported. He also noticed this area had very straight edges, something unusual for a natural occurrence. His next step was to get out there with a metal detector to see what he could find. He began making trips to the site in May 2010. Using a metal detector that could find a piece the size of a BB, three inches below the surface, he would be able to find small pieces, which was exactly his goal. In previous archeological digs in the area they had sifted dirt through screens with holes large enough for very small pieces to fall through. Kimbler figured that if there was anything left it would be very small and perhaps in animal burrows, or ant hills. An ant hill was actually where he found his first piece. Landsat multi-spectral satellite image showing the debris field. The image clearly shows a burn (or disturbed area) covering the exact location of the debris field as described by witnesses. (image credit: Frank Kimbler) What he found was a silvery metal that looked aluminum. This was strange because there were no indications of any sort of aluminum objects in the area. He occasionally found tin, which would come from parts of tin roofs blowing around, and some nails. He eventually found more of these silvery pieces, and says they looked shredded. Some of the edges even appear melted. He also found some aluminum buttons that appear to be the type used on military fatigues in the later 40’s. If that is the case it demonstrates that the military was in the area. The buttons. Tentatively identified as military fatigue buttons late 40's early 50's. (image credit: Frank Kimbler) Kimbler felt the small silvery pieces were interesting enough for further analysis. To get some help he went to the Roswell International UFO Museum and Research Center. Located in downtown Roswell, the museum is the main hub for Roswell UFO crash research. He showed the material to the museum’s director, Julie Shuster, and was able to meet with researcher Don Schmitt. They decided to fund the first test which was done by New Mexico Tech in Socorro. Using a micro-probe, they were able to determine the material’s composition. It turned out to be an aluminum, silicon, manganese, copper alloy. It is not unknown, but it is used in construction and not usually found in a foil form. This further inspired Kimbler to get some isotope work done on the piece. Kimbler says the isotope work is so important because the ratios are “very much like our fingerprints.” Certain concentrations of elements on earth are unique to Earth. So if you know isotopic ratios for magnesium, it will be the same for anything on earth with magnesium, but if it is not from Earth, it will have a different ratio. For instance meteorites have different ratios because they are not from Earth. Isotopic analysis is necessary to determine if a material is from Earth or another world. Some of the metal alloy fragments found buried and scattered over the debris field area. (image credit: Frank Kimbler) Kimbler went to the University of New Mexico Institute of Meteoritics, and talked to their expert on isotopes to get an analysis done. Kimbler had not told the expert anything about the samples. He looked Kimbler “square in the eye” and told him that the only reason he would want to get this sort of test done is because he suspected the material was from outer space. He wanted to know where the material was from, and when Kimbler told him he refused to do the test, stating that the idea of a spaceship crashing at Roswell was “a bunch of hooey.” One of the other scientists in the office actually argued the point that if it is something unusual, the importance of that possibility makes it worth taking a look at. However, the expert didn’t budge and refused to do the work. The second scientist was a micro-probe specialist at the University and although he could not do any isotope work, he was able to get more specific information about the material’s composition and confirm the early work that had been done. Bigelow Aerospace showed some interest in helping Kimbler with his analysis, but after spending months with little results, Kimbler had to go elsewhere. Kimbler was able to find another lab with multiple certifications willing to do the work. The UFO Museum put up the money, and the results were back in five days. Kimbler says he almost fell over when he saw the information. The ratios were off, and as he puts it there were only two answers to explain the results, “either the lab made an analytical error or the material is not from Earth.” Magnesium isotope fractionation chart modified from the graph used by Dr. Peter Sturrock in his analysis of the Ubatuba UFO fragment. Magnesium bearing compounds, metals, and minerals should all plot on or very close to the line. A chondite is a type of meteorite and since it does not originate from Earth does not plot on the line. The Roswell AH-1 alloy plots way of the line. The AH-1 plot is an anomaly that is either an analytical error or the material is not from Earth. More testing is needed to verify the data to see if it is an error or its from another world. (image credit: Frank Kimbler) However, Kimbler’s work is not finished. He says, “Following good scientific method protocol one set of data is not going to cut it.” In order to prove the lab did not make a mistake he needs to get more work done. He says he does have two more certified labs lined up to do more isotopic testing to confirm the work done thus far, and that he may have this work done within the next few weeks. Kimbler says in order to confirm the material is not from Earth, it is necessary to have two or three labs showing the same results. Another important aspect of the material being aluminum and showing unearthly origins is that aluminum must be manufactured. Unlike some natural elements, such as gold or silver that can be found as nuggets in its raw form, aluminum is not found in nature. If this proves to be material not of this earth, it means this was something that was manufactured elsewhere. Thus far humans are not manufacturing anything in space, let alone something that would fall out of space and land outside of Roswell in a location where an alleged spacecraft was found in 1947. Kimbler says he is being careful before making any definitive claims, but he is “hopeful.” He says certified labs don’t normally make mistakes, and that these people who did the work are some of the best in the business. The implications if Kimbler’s material turns out to be of extraterrestrial origins and manufacture are of course startling. Could he have the smoking gun to prove we are being visited by an intelligent civilization from another planet, and that they crashed outside of Roswell in 1947? Kimbler says he will keep us up to date, and has been gracious enough to provide us with pictures of the material and the analysis. Listen to Frank Kimbler discussing his finding on Open Minds Radio. Note: Most captions provided by Frank Kimbler. New Mexico Tech microprobe data shows element composition of AH-1. Na and Cl values from small salt crystals embedded on the surface analysis shows AH-1 contains AL Si Mg Mn and Cu with small amounts of Fe. (image credit: Frank Kimbler) University of New Mexico microprobe data shows element composition. Verified the NMT data with analysis showing AL Si Mg Mn Cu with a some Fe. (image credit: Frank Kimbler) Magnesium isotope values from the certified lab that did the analysis. (image credit: Frank Kimbler) AH-1 alloy element composition from the same lab. Shows the AH-1 alloy is a AL-Mg-Mn-Si-Cu alloy. (image credit: Frank Kimbler) AH-1 under magnification shows banded or layered structures in AH-1. (image credit: Frank Kimbler) AH-1 under magnification shows more areas of banding. (image credit: Frank Kimbler)
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Post by skywalker on Jul 13, 2011 14:28:32 GMT -6
I wonder how these metal fragments would compare to some of the other alledged UFO debris found at other so-called crash sites, like the one at Aurora, texas. I believe they found some unusual aluminum pieces there also.
It needs to be rechecked by a different lab to make sure the results are the same.
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Post by auntym on Jul 14, 2011 14:58:22 GMT -6
www.theufochronicles.com/2011/07/roswell-festival.htmlkevinrandle.blogspot.com/2011/07/roswell-festival.htmlThursday, July 14, 2011 A different Perspective on Roswell Festival By Kevin Randle
Yes, I have returned from Roswell, my first visit there in nearly fifteen years. The town has grown quite a bit and it is surprising the number of new, top line hotels, franchise operations and the improvements to the city. The UFO business has been very good. The UFO Festival, held over the Fourth of July weekend, which is the anniversary of the crash so many years ago, is a well planned and well executed event. The speakers and presenters cover the range of those inside the UFO field from abductees and abduction researchers, to UFO investigators to those who have had some kind of spectacular UFO sighting. And this doesn’t even mention the TV and movie stars who attended including Roy Thinnes of The Invaders (in color). I arrived in mid-afternoon on Friday and found my table, in the museum where I could attempt to sell a few books and DVDs. I was paired with Robert Salas of the nuclear weapons intrusion fame. He is a retired government employee who served in the Air Force as a captain (but then who didn’t... which is just my way of saying that I had once been a captain in the Air Force, too). The next day I managed to offend him but in this case actually proves the adage that no good deed goes unpunished. I had been joking with those circulating through the area, talking with them and not really pushing the books. A couple of people had asked the prices and I was explaining the charges and pointed at Salas’ single book to give the price. He snapped, “I’m getting really tired of that.” I thought it a somewhat unprofessional thing to say in front of those people but let it slide until they had moved on and we had a momentary break. I said that I had just been trying to help by directing their attention to his book, but he said that he didn’t need my help. About thirty minutes later I went to lunch and when I came back, I was preparing for my presentation. I kiddingly said a couple of things (though I was sort of annoyed at his earlier outburst) about what had happened. When I returned from the presentation he’d taken his books and found another location, which meant I had the table to myself. That was fine with me. Of course, while I was interviewing a very nice woman about her involvement with the Roswell crash, Salas was quick to join our private conversation and take over. Some of the questions he asked were those that I wanted to ask anyway, but he did just butt in. I said nothing to him about that, either in front of the woman or after she was on her way. Salas, it seems, likes to be the center of attention. I had unknowingly taken that from him as I talked to those who had come to our table. But then, it is also true that some people have no sense of humor... and mine is sometimes a little over developed. Anyway, I gave my presentations (there were two of them) without interruption or trouble (other than kicking the power cord out of the computer so it went into hibernation mode.) We got that fixed in minutes and I went right back into the presentation. The museum had multiple presentations going on from nine to five or six but the highlight might have been the Roswell researchers panel held on Saturday night. Stan Friedman, Tom Carey, Don Schmitt, Frank Kimbler and I shared the stage talking about how we had been dragged into the Roswell investigations. (The people from the left are Kimbler, me, Schmitt, Carey and Friedman. Photo courtesy of Alejandro Rojas at www.openminds.tv/top-ufo-roswell-researchers-728/.) The room was packed and there were people standing outside on the sidewalk waiting for an opportunity to get in. We all talked about how we became involved in the case and some of the side, often funny experiences we’d had in working the case. TO CONTINUE READING CLICK ON ABOVE LINK
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Post by auntym on Jul 15, 2011 13:02:03 GMT -6
www.theufochronicles.com/2011/07/stanton-friedman-reports-on-this-years.htmlFriday, July 15, 2011 Stanton Friedman Reports On This Year's (2011) Roswell UFO festival TO CONTINUE READING CLICK ON ABOVE LINK By Stanton Friedman www.stantonfriedman.com7-15-11 I wasn't sure what to expect this year what with the political battles that had gone on in Roswell since last year and without a city sponsored slate of speakers competing with those of us at the International UFO Museum and Research Center. In addition, I was concerned because it took a long time for there to be a program of lectures posted on line. The raging forest and desert fires in the southwest didn't help and there had been no rain near Roswell for many many months The temperature reached near the 100 mark every day.Fortunately it cooled down to the 70s at night. Of course there was no humidity.There were even fireworks on July 4. Roswell UFO Museum & Grey It turns out the crowds were excellent both at the museum itself and at the various panels and lectures. The museum had just obtained access to a pretty good sized hall just north of it so that it could be used for evening events rather than having to break down the main room at the museum in the evening and re set it up with vendor tables each morning. That worked out very well. The sessions were well attended indeed. On Saturday more than 1800 visitors came to the museum. Many bought books and DVDs (as well as T-shirts, souvenirs etc), took pictures, asked for autographs and wanted to chat or visit with the celebrities such as Roy Thinnes, and various authors and speakers and experiencers such as Travis Walton (Abducted in Arizona and author of "Fire in the Sky")., Robert Salas, an officer at Malmstrom AFB when 10 Minuteman missiles went off line when a UFO hovered near the main gate, Kathleen Marden, Betty Hill's niece who did most of the work on "Captured! The Betty and Barney Hill UFO Experience'. There was a unique Roswell panel which filled the hall. Panelists included Don Schmitt, Tom Carey,Kevin Randle, myself and a new academic researcher Frank Kimbler of New Mexico Military Institute. Roswell Panel I had been in touch with him in advance as he had done some fascinating work on some small pieces of wreckage that might possibly have been debris of a crashed flying saucer.. He noted privately that at visits to another site over near Horse Springs some so called researchers were claiming that every piece of metal was special rather than rubbish that had been dumped there. More tests will be done. Apparently it is an unusual aluminum alloy with some unusual isotope ratios for the magnesium in it.It was the first time the first four had been together on a panel and the discussion ran 20 minutes longer than expected. TO CONTINUE READING CLICK ON ABOVE LINK
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Post by auntym on Aug 5, 2011 23:16:05 GMT -6
kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2011/08/absense-of-evidence.htmlFriday, August 05, 2011 Absense of Evidence...by Kevin Randle While in Roswell I had a chance, brief though it was, to talk to Stan Friedman. He had come up to me as I ate breakfast and suggested that I was probably correct about Robert Willingham which is surprising. Oh, not about Willingham because it’s pretty clear that he never served as an Air Force officer or a fighter pilot, but because of what it suggests about the MJ-12 documents. If Willingham’s tale is discredited, then MJ-12 is discredited because it mentions the Willingham story and there is no other source of information on Del Rio (or the El Indio – Guerrero UFO crash as it was disguised there). When I said to Stan that there was no evidence of a Del Rio crash, he trotted out his propaganda argument that “Absence of evidence isn’t evidence of absence.” My immediate reply was, “It is when due diligence has been preformed,” which, of course I had done (and which, of course, sort of attaches a legal term to the argument). But this whole thing got me to thinking about this “Absence of evidence” line and what it really means. It is the last ditch effort to support a concept, idea, theory, or story that has nothing else to support it. Stan didn’t suggest other sources of evidence for the Del Rio crash, he didn’t offer additional witness testimony, he didn’t produce newspaper articles that talked of some kind of UFO event in the area in the right time frame (which according to Willingham’s various tales was 1948, 1950 or sometime in the mid-1950s). No, he just quoted his line as if that ends the argument. With that sort of an argument, no rational conclusion can be drawn. It doesn’t matter how much time, effort, or money has been put into an investigation. If you found nothing to support the story, then the fallback position is always, “Absence of evidence...” Here is where we are with the Del Rio crash. The only witness to ever mention it has invented his military career and if he wasn’t a fighter pilot, then he was not in a position to see the UFO crash. If he wasn’t an Air Force officer, then he was never an Air Force fighter pilot and his story fails on that point. Yes, Willingham has named other witnesses or potential witnesses, but then all of them are dead (which, coincidentally is the same problem with MJ-12... all the men named were dead before the document appeared). There has been no way to verify this story. We must accept it as Willingham tells it. The only other reference to this case is in the MJ-12 documents. There are no other witnesses, no newspaper stories (and before you get wound up on that, remember even Roswell was mentioned in the newspapers, as was Las Vegas, Kecksburg, Shag Harbour, and several other suspected and alleged UFO crashes), and there nothing in the Project Blue Book files. CONTINUE READING: kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2011/08/absense-of-evidence.html
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Post by Steve on Aug 6, 2011 8:55:45 GMT -6
kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2011/08/absense-of-evidence.htmlFriday, August 05, 2011 Absense of Evidence...by Kevin Randle While in Roswell I had a chance, brief though it was, to talk to Stan Friedman. He had come up to me as I ate breakfast and suggested that I was probably correct about Robert Willingham which is surprising. Oh, not about Willingham because it’s pretty clear that he never served as an Air Force officer or a fighter pilot, but because of what it suggests about the MJ-12 documents. If Willingham’s tale is discredited, then MJ-12 is discredited because it mentions the Willingham story and there is no other source of information on Del Rio (or the El Indio – Guerrero UFO crash as it was disguised there). When I said to Stan that there was no evidence of a Del Rio crash, he trotted out his propaganda argument that “Absence of evidence isn’t evidence of absence.” My immediate reply was, “It is when due diligence has been preformed,” which, of course I had done (and which, of course, sort of attaches a legal term to the argument). But this whole thing got me to thinking about this “Absence of evidence” line and what it really means. It is the last ditch effort to support a concept, idea, theory, or story that has nothing else to support it. Stan didn’t suggest other sources of evidence for the Del Rio crash, he didn’t offer additional witness testimony, he didn’t produce newspaper articles that talked of some kind of UFO event in the area in the right time frame (which according to Willingham’s various tales was 1948, 1950 or sometime in the mid-1950s). No, he just quoted his line as if that ends the argument. With that sort of an argument, no rational conclusion can be drawn. It doesn’t matter how much time, effort, or money has been put into an investigation. If you found nothing to support the story, then the fallback position is always, “Absence of evidence...” Here is where we are with the Del Rio crash. The only witness to ever mention it has invented his military career and if he wasn’t a fighter pilot, then he was not in a position to see the UFO crash. If he wasn’t an Air Force officer, then he was never an Air Force fighter pilot and his story fails on that point. Yes, Willingham has named other witnesses or potential witnesses, but then all of them are dead (which, coincidentally is the same problem with MJ-12... all the men named were dead before the document appeared). There has been no way to verify this story. We must accept it as Willingham tells it. The only other reference to this case is in the MJ-12 documents. There are no other witnesses, no newspaper stories (and before you get wound up on that, remember even Roswell was mentioned in the newspapers, as was Las Vegas, Kecksburg, Shag Harbour, and several other suspected and alleged UFO crashes), and there nothing in the Project Blue Book files. CONTINUE READING: kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2011/08/absense-of-evidence.html Good for Kevin Randle. I remember Ruben Uriarte traveling to visit Willingham in Texas with his Del Rio crash claims. If Willingham was never even in the Air Force...then. No background check? He is Mufon's Director of Investigations (international). Some investigation! Ruben and Stan Friedman are old friends. Friedman is sticking up for him about Del Rio, but you would think this all comes falling down if Willingham was never even an Air Force pilot. Both the Del Rio book by Noe Torres & Ruben Uriarte, and their first book 'Mexico's Roswell' seem devoid of confirmable facts. But these books provide a vehicle to circulate among the UFO crowd and appear on radio. But what is really there in the books in the first place? Seems little to nothing in a real world sense. Ruben is very non confrontational - so why a key back ground check of the prime and only witness, if it threatens to spoil 'a good story'. They claim all USAF records of Willingham had 'disappeared' because Willingham spoke up. How convenient. Not even a personal scrapbook keep sake (every veteran has) when Willingham was supposedly in the military? This is getting real old. Disappointing. The new Frank Kimbler evidence about Roswell (posted above) so far seems to be the only real new relevant anything here. Steve
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Post by skywalker on Aug 6, 2011 11:35:59 GMT -6
I'm still very curious about the metal fragments that they found out there. They claim that the test proved that the metal did not come from Earth but according to some skeptics the tests are inconclusive because the isotopes still fall within the expected values if the margin of error is taken into consideration.
That means that the material could have come from earth after all, but if so what were pieces of an aluminum alloy doing way out in the middle of the desert? That alloy appears to be a foil like material. I wonder what the old Project Mogul balloons were made of? I read some where once that they were made of a metallic material inside a plastic casing. Could the Roswell debris be balloon fragments? That's one of the many things that the government claims crashed out there.
Does anybody know of any museum that has one of the old Mogul/skyhook balloons on display? I would love to take a look at one of them up close.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2011 14:25:32 GMT -6
I had heard that the materials were common enough here but they felt the 'formula' wasn't in keeping with something they would ordinarily see. Very confusing stuff.
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Post by skywalker on Aug 6, 2011 22:22:34 GMT -6
Supposedly the alloy is common in construction but not normally seen as a metal foil, but all of those military balloon projects coming out of Alamogordo were using some pretty fancy materials. This is definitely something that should be retested to make sure it is accurate. If those metal fragments really are from out of this world then that would pretty much prove that what crashed out there really was an alien craft. They need to be absolutely certain the results are accurate.
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Post by auntym on Sept 12, 2011 18:50:16 GMT -6
Test shows Roswell UFO may be Extraterrestrial...VIDEO From: openmindstv | Jul 14, 2011 Frank Kimbler comes to Open Minds to show testing he has done on metal he found at Roswell crash site. click to see videowww.youtube.com/user/openmindstv?blend=8&ob=5
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