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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2011 22:18:24 GMT -6
I wish you wouldn't go...
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Post by paulette on Oct 15, 2011 22:58:40 GMT -6
Ah Jo....why don't you just step back? If it seems like you want to visit later - come back. You don't have to be a moderator. I hope you have or will make some sort of peace with the one or more members who won't leave you alone. IYO.
Whenever I hear that people have been feeling unappreciated I always wonder - Did I miss something? Was something going on under my nose? Should I have done something or even, Is it me?
I guess if it was me I might notice. Hopefully. I wish you well and wonder, having posted your email for friends, who are those folks? Again the confusion - I won't call myself a friend exactly and we don't necessarily agree about the organization and running of the universe but then cyber friends are not really friends but maybe friendlies....
Maybe you are somewhat confused about all this as well. We are all, after all, imperfect humans. I wish you well in following whatever path you are walking on.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2011 0:54:27 GMT -6
Jo, this is so sad ! Your contributions here, not just as a moderator, but as a person, and new friend will be highly missed ! I hope you will be back . I dont even know what to say from here,or even what's going on (nor do I want to know), except that I hope this blows over and that you'll be back . Always a friend,,,Cliff
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2011 3:31:15 GMT -6
Paulette..I couldn't ever be upset with you..I enjoy your view of the universe as I do everyone's here. A 'friend' is someone who uses the email address There are just some issues that I'm having a problem wrangling with. Lorelei..you're my pal..hugs. Cliff..what you said means a lot to me thank you. I'm going to sleep on it and see how my brain feels in the morning
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Post by swamprat on Oct 16, 2011 11:11:18 GMT -6
My dear Jo.....you will be missed! I wish you peace.
Swamp
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Post by Steve on Oct 16, 2011 11:24:25 GMT -6
Don't go Jo, will miss you very much. Steve
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2011 11:32:47 GMT -6
I'm not Steve and thank you (you too Swampy)..I'd miss everyone here too much to be put off by something very stupid and trivial. Guess you're all just stuck with me
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Post by Steve on Oct 16, 2011 12:23:47 GMT -6
Good, whatever the issue was, glad your stuck with us, and we with you. The sun just came up twice today. I have had a number of people suggest I not be a member here or other such 'blogs' as they refer to them on UFO's by certain UFO organizations. This is the only one I belong to. Everything posted is read and copied. They see that as a liability. I understand where they are coming from. Yet what they value and I value are often two different things. They feel uncomfortable in such a situation having to commit to something with their words. Yet hypocritically they blare on radio, Internet, and the such. Control freaks. I had to think long about it, and finally reject their suggestions. So called friends that wish to control you are not friends. I have been around the track once or twice, and know what is confidential and internal business. I have had some loyal friends here, and there are experiencers here I feel I wish to be around instead. Control freaks help no one but themselves. Observing those in the UFO research community - they really have very few real friends anyway if they looked hard at themselves. They just think they do, with their 10,000 closest friends on 'facebook'. What a bunch of worthless bubble gum. I will maintain my other roles best I am allowed, and continue to speak my mind carefully. I have friends here. So in a way, I understand Jo. Steve
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2011 13:20:17 GMT -6
I'm glad of your decisions too Steve..I'd miss you a lot and I understand about control freaks..the world, especially now, seems paved by people trying to secure any small place in a hectic life. I've just figured out that it doesn't matter what the issue is..we don't give it more importance than it's worth
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2011 15:15:02 GMT -6
Steve... you are always welcome here to post and speak your mind. You have helped me and many others her considerably with the information you have shared. I'm sorry for all the BS that you seem to have been going through. I'm sure it's very stressful. ~hugz~
The whole point of the "disclosure" movement is to bring this stuff to the surface... to bring it out to the public. All of these UFO people are hoping and praying for "disclosure" and yet they are unwilling to "disclose" the information themselves. What a bunch of hypocrites!!
"We want the answers and the truth so we can lock it away in a safe somewhere where prying eyes can't read it!"
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2011 15:15:31 GMT -6
Jo: I'm glad you decided to stay!! ~hugz~
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2011 16:53:09 GMT -6
We know..what we know. The rest of the world just doesn't have a clue yet.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2011 17:08:02 GMT -6
We know..what we know. The rest of the world just doesn't have a clue yet. And then again there are those who know things that WE don't know too at the same time...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2011 18:40:36 GMT -6
Jo, I too am glad you are staying . Thank You!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2011 18:45:50 GMT -6
And thanks for your commitment to us also, steve! You have no idea what a relief it is to have found you and jokelly again. I can't be thankful enough that skywalker has made all this possible, with help from his friends.
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Post by paulette on Oct 16, 2011 19:54:58 GMT -6
And so we continue onward through the fog. I love you guys.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2011 20:03:45 GMT -6
Exactly..through the fog..anyone hear a fog horn? Love you guys too!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2011 3:08:41 GMT -6
I wuv you guyz too!!
~hugz and smoochiez everyone~
;D ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2011 9:48:13 GMT -6
You.....are a 6 foot tall hug machine ;D
Anyone feel the icy breath of Elenin as it flew by??
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Post by satansrini on Nov 1, 2011 0:28:58 GMT -6
hmmmm................ So long as we can detach ourselves from something.. attachment to any degree is ok. But as I have come to understand.. detachment is not as easy as we think it is.. Closer the attachment, tougher the process of detachment.. so I thought the best option is to not attach yourself so much that you can't detach yourself with relative ease.. may be a crude short cut.. but works for me I hope whatever I blabbed makes some sense.... regards, Srinivas
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Post by skywalker on Nov 1, 2011 21:02:01 GMT -6
Good, whatever the issue was, glad your stuck with us, and we with you. The sun just came up twice today. I have had a number of people suggest I not be a member here or other such 'blogs' as they refer to them on UFO's by certain UFO organizations. This is the only one I belong to. Everything posted is read and copied. They see that as a liability. I understand where they are coming from. Yet what they value and I value are often two different things. They feel uncomfortable in such a situation having to commit to something with their words. Yet hypocritically they blare on radio, Internet, and the such. Control freaks. I had to think long about it, and finally reject their suggestions. So called friends that wish to control you are not friends. I have been around the track once or twice, and know what is confidential and internal business. I have had some loyal friends here, and there are experiencers here I feel I wish to be around instead. Control freaks help no one but themselves. Observing those in the UFO research community - they really have very few real friends anyway if they looked hard at themselves. They just think they do, with their 10,000 closest friends on 'facebook'. What a bunch of worthless bubble gum. I will maintain my other roles best I am allowed, and continue to speak my mind carefully. I have friends here. So in a way, I understand Jo. Steve I don't understand why these UFO groups are so paranoid about controlling information. What difference does it make what people say as long as they speak the truth? If people have nothing to hide it shouldn't matter what they make public, and if they do have something to hide then I would say they are part of the problem rather than the solution. There is way too much secrecy and paranoia in UFOland. Everybody acts like everybody else is out to get them. I hope they are not right.
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Post by Steve on Nov 1, 2011 21:58:44 GMT -6
Good, whatever the issue was, glad your stuck with us, and we with you. The sun just came up twice today. I have had a number of people suggest I not be a member here or other such 'blogs' as they refer to them on UFO's by certain UFO organizations. This is the only one I belong to. Everything posted is read and copied. They see that as a liability. I understand where they are coming from. Yet what they value and I value are often two different things. They feel uncomfortable in such a situation having to commit to something with their words. Yet hypocritically they blare on radio, Internet, and the such. Control freaks. I had to think long about it, and finally reject their suggestions. So called friends that wish to control you are not friends. I have been around the track once or twice, and know what is confidential and internal business. I have had some loyal friends here, and there are experiencers here I feel I wish to be around instead. Control freaks help no one but themselves. Observing those in the UFO research community - they really have very few real friends anyway if they looked hard at themselves. They just think they do, with their 10,000 closest friends on 'facebook'. What a bunch of worthless bubble gum. I will maintain my other roles best I am allowed, and continue to speak my mind carefully. I have friends here. So in a way, I understand Jo. Steve I don't understand why these UFO groups are so paranoid about controlling information. What difference does it make what people say as long as they speak the truth? If people have nothing to hide it shouldn't matter what they make public, and if they do have something to hide then I would say they are part of the problem rather than the solution. There is way too much secrecy and paranoia in UFOland. Everybody acts like everybody else is out to get them. I hope they are not right. Rest easy Sky. I am pleased to write here being involved in the planning and structure of EPIC related to their Investigations and other special projects.. I am happy and flattered to be invited to participate in that capacity. They feel with my experience I have much to contribute. I don't think EPIC as a organization wishes me or anyone to keep any UFO secrets, assuming we ever had any. Just that whatever I may share maybe read by many, and so they merely expect me to comment in a professional manner knowing I represent the EPIC organization. I do not share about how the internal business workings of EPIC are conducted. I know it's purpose is the sharing of UFO or Paranormal information once investigated, short of compromising witnesses identity and/or well being. I believe in loyalty, and know sometimes some on the Internet are capricious with so called facts, mentioning names on the radio irresponsibly for instance. It is too bad if I might exercise that same freedom of expression they boast about to clarify something that goes against 'their' version of truth they maybe selling within the confines I mention earlier. It is not a big deal really. I like to be gracious so some over inflated fringe egos can again look silly. It is about bigger things and staying the course. BTW, it is funny in the latest issue of the journal from that other UFO organization, there is an article about 'remote viewing'. What is described by 'psychic spymaster' Joseph McMoneagle (their title for this person - not mine) describes the very same techniques and virtually very similar information as my Han experiment! Ohhooo awe! ;D. This is supposed to be so significant from a 'nuts and bolts' organization. If they really want to have their skirts blown up, maybe they should then come over here to the Edge of Reality and read about Han and my hypnotic sessions with Mary. We are already doing this, and without a secret government budget, nor has anything ever been 'classified' - shared freely here. We have been doing some remote viewing here for some time, or whatever it is. Not to forget our many members here that conducted their own psychic experiments in the old forum. What a wonderful new smell that other organization has discovered. ;D 'psychic spymaster'? GMAB (give me a break) ;D Let us lead these old fogies in 'that other organization' gently... Steve
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Post by skywalker on Nov 1, 2011 22:18:21 GMT -6
They probably have been reading about Han. Where else would they get the idea from? It's not like they could come up with something original on their own.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2011 22:28:34 GMT -6
All that remote viewing or channeling takes is the stepping stone to it. With some people, meditation works and in all probability Steve could do this on his own now without the hypno-aid...but...the best thing about Steve's viewing/channeling is that he has a 'control'. Someone who is with him taking notes, asking questions. I have my suspicions about all mediums..and I don't mean they are frauds. They believe they are channeling angels or alien entities but there are other possibilities of things to channel. Two people from the other forum said they were channeling aliens and Heidi from here believes she astral travels to a ship and has spoken with reptile entities there. I'm more inclined to believe some of these are dreams but who knows? They might just be very real too. It's pretty cheesy that as Steve starts his hypnosis experiments..they spring up all over ...but it figures
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Post by Steve on Nov 1, 2011 22:37:41 GMT -6
All that remote viewing or channeling takes is the stepping stone to it. With some people, meditation works and in all probability Steve could do this on his own now without the hypno-aid...but...the best thing about Steve's viewing/channeling is that he has a 'control'. Someone who is with him taking notes, asking questions. I have my suspicions about all mediums..and I don't mean they are frauds. They believe they are channeling angels or alien entities but there are other possibilities of things to channel. Two people from the other forum said they were channeling aliens and Heidi from here believes she astral travels to a ship and has spoken with reptile entities there. I'm more inclined to believe some of these are dreams but who knows? They might just be very real too. It's pretty cheesy that as Steve starts his hypnosis experiments..they spring up all over ...but it figures Thanks Sky and Jo. I am uncomfortable with the term 'medium' too. As you pointed out, our experiment has a 'control' built in. I think you need this. It seems so natural to do it this way. Steve
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2011 9:20:44 GMT -6
And a much safer way too, I think. Suppose you could convince Mary to slip by for a Q&A session some time?? ;D
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