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Post by lois on Dec 1, 2011 18:19:07 GMT -6
Horsemeat.. next dogs. If it was the last thing on earth to eat I would not touch it. The kid next door when I was around ten and he was three. His Mother would put canned dogfood on the floor in the dog bowl . This three year old would run to the silverware draw and get a spoon in two seconds . He loved it. ;D She would not be in any hurry to get him away from the bowl. He eat it most of his life. He never got sick from it. ;D. We had to tell all the families in the neighborhood .. Eddie eats dog foot. ;D Wonder what else was in that can, my Mother would say. www.komu.com/news/horse-meat-may-appear-on-dinner-tables/To each his own..
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Post by lois on Dec 1, 2011 18:44:29 GMT -6
Then there is the other side of the coin.. Poor horses.. who decides which animals we can kill and which ones live.
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Post by lois on Dec 1, 2011 19:05:29 GMT -6
If there had been a law which states we could not kill animals. how would the colonies survived?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2011 19:29:36 GMT -6
We gotta do what we gotta do to survive Lois... it's always been that way.
Mom said I used to chew on milk bones when I was teething as a baby. ;D Does that count as eating dog food?
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Post by skywalker on Dec 1, 2011 22:15:04 GMT -6
I don't mean to be crude or anything, but meat is meat...it doesn't matter what animal it comes from. The animals we kill for food are based more on tradition than anything else, and traditionally we normally don't eat horses because they have always served other purposes like riding or pulling a wagon. Not all civilizations have felt that way. The native Americans used to eat horses all the time. It was either that or starve to death. The same thing happens in China and other parts of the world where they not only eat horses but also dogs, cats and just about anything else that walks or crawls. Like Lorelei said...people got to do what they got to do to survive and we have to eat something. Another thing that needs to be taken into consideration is that since we have eliminated most of the natural predators that used to exist in this country there is nothing left to thin out the number of animals that are left...like cows, horses, deer, etc... If left unchecked these animals will just continue to breed and breed and reproduce until the population gets so huge that they food supply can no longer support it and the animals then get weak, sick and starve to death or die of diseases. This is why it is necessary for us to thin the herd so to speak. There are hunting seasons to control the deer population (plus all of the gazillions that get run over by cars), we kill cows for food to control the cattle population...but what keeps the horse population in check? Without the slaughterhouses there will be a lot of animals suffering and dying miserable deaths of starvation or disease. When it comes to killing animals I am kind of divided over how I feel about it. I used to go hunting when I was a young boy. I killed one rabbit, one turkey and one deer...and I felt guilty every time I did it. Those poor animals didn't do anything to deserve to die. I finally decided that I would much rather see a deer running and jumping and playing in the forest than to see his head hanging on the wall with a blank stare like he was wondering why the heck I had shot him. That would haunt me every time I looked at it. That is why the only thing I shoot animals with now is a camera. I am also personally opposed to the commercial harvesting of animals for food or clothing or whatever, but on the other hand I realize that it is a tradition that has been going on for thousands of years, and without commercialized slaughter of animals not only would we have a severe shortage of food but we would deprive a lot of people of their way of life and their ability to earn a living. And we also need to harvest the animals to prevent overpopulation which would lead to disease and suffering. Slaughtering the animals might therefor be the only alternative...it is a necessary evil. I suppose the best thing we can do is to try to compromise. We should treat animals with decency and compassion while they are alive...and kill them humanely when it is necessary to do so. That way it will prevent a lot of needless suffering for both us and them. I don't think I could ever bring myself to eat a horse though. It just doesn't seem right.
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Post by lois on Dec 1, 2011 23:04:37 GMT -6
Like the video said, they could put them to sleep instead of letting them die of starvation or sending them to the slaughter house.. I ate Rabbit when I was kid, my older brothers went out with our dog who lived to be twenty one years old. She loved to hunt.. I know my parents had a hard time staying afloat with 11 kids in those days. I loved the gravy.. but did like the buckshot I would bite into. They only used shotguns..
So it was sort of a survival for us Lorelei.. but I would not eat a horse, I would replace it with anything, carrots radishes etc. As long as this country has flour, we have bread, I would eat it.
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Post by lois on Dec 1, 2011 23:15:16 GMT -6
Since I had stints put in my heart I don't even eat meat . I do eat fish and baked chicken.
Sky . I did tell my husband tonight at dinner.. when he said the native americans ate horsemeat, "why would they do that they needed their horses?"
There are still many wild horses, but you would think the owners would make sure they did not reproduce.. more than they needed. Some rare breeds maybe. . .
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Post by skywalker on Dec 1, 2011 23:28:30 GMT -6
Maybe they send them to the slaughter house when they are ready to be put to sleep...like if they are old or lame or if their owners don't want them anymore. I dunno...I couldn't imagine somebody killing a horse that could be sold to somebody else. Horses aren't exactly cheap.
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Post by paulette on Dec 2, 2011 0:41:57 GMT -6
Cows are kind of raised to be ah, harvested. Ditto sheep. Every spring I see the cute little new lambs frollicking in the fields here and then at the farmer's market (in the fall) I see the little packages of stew meat and chops. These critters live their lives with company of their own kind and unless they are a 4 H project and some little farmer's daughter brushes them and gives them carrots them don't EXPECT love and affection from people. But horses (unless they are wild horses) are raised to be companion animals. They expect people to bring them good things to eat, to brush them and talk to them and ride on them. And then to be shoved into a truck and taken to a place of death and abandoned? I donno but I think that's betrayal big time.
I know that some people sentimentalize companion animals - furry children and all that but killing one's animal buddy can't be good for one's soul or heart. Unless its a survival situation.
IMO. And I eat meat and if someone offers me a deer roast or a leg of lamb I'm happy to get it. But both of these creatures had a life and got to be true to their natures. Its why I don't eat battery chicken eggs or mass produced chicken (I have slips). I know that they glue together meat with an animo acid "glue" that answers where McD gets all those chicken breasts. It can be chipped up and reconstituted. Ugh.
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