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Post by swamprat on Jul 31, 2012 20:26:56 GMT -6
Mufon UFO Stalker
UFO Sighting
Sighting BasicsCase Number 41310 Log Number US-07312012-0009 Date Submitted 07/31/2012 07:13 UTC Date of the Event 07/30/2012 09:25 UTC Source MUFON Disposition Unresolved Summary Commercial Pilot saw UFO on approach to KCI airport Sighting LocationCity Kansas City Region Missouri Country United States Latitude 39.297546 Longitude -94.716064 The latitude and longitude presented here is an approximation to protect the reporters identity Sighting SpecificsViewing Distance 101-500 Feet Sighting Duration Undisclosed Object Features Dome Object Flight Path Path with directional change Object Shape Disc Weather Factors Unknown Sighting DetailsAs called in to ASD by phone: (witness wishes to remain anonymous) I am the pilot of a regularly scheduled commercial aircraft flight from St. Louis to Kansas City and was on approach to KCI when my co-pilot said he saw an unidentified object to the right of the aircraft that appeared to be following us. It was not yet in my range of view, so I asked him to confirm that and the object remained. I radioed the tower and asked for radar confirmation but there was none. Then the object came into my view to the right front of the aircraft. At that point we were approximately 35 minutes out from the airport. The object was a silver/gray color and had three blue/white lights on the bottom and one on the top. It was a disc-shaped craft with a low dome on top. It was approximately 300 feet from our aircraft and NNE of our position. Then the object suddenly moved underneath us and to the left, and continued at our same rate of speed. I discussed this with my co-pilot and we decided not to tell the tower what we saw because of what happens when reports like this are made. The tower then asked us to confirm an unidentified object and I said it was no longer in view. I was concerned, however, that it might be a problem. The object stayed with us for approximately 22 minutes. When I decreased aircraft speed for approach, the object slowed as well, then went directly south of our position at a very high rate of speed - faster than any aircraft I've ever seen. I was a military pilot for 14 years and know what type of aircraft we have. It was definitely NOT a man-made aircraft. Some pilots have lost their jobs when they report a UFO, and I would like to keep mine so am not providing my name or contact information. Some of the passengers were discussing this as they left the plane but we did not discuss it with them. Other crew members saw it as well, but did not report it. I just wanted to tell someone about it. Note: phone number is for ASD since witness would not provide a number www.ufostalker.com/ufostalker/UFO+Sighting+in+Kansas+City+Missouri+United+States+on+July+30th+2012/41310
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2012 20:46:22 GMT -6
That's what I'd call a reliable sighting
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Post by skywalker on Jul 31, 2012 21:15:08 GMT -6
That sounds kind of similar to the object that Lois recently saw fly over her house. She said it was disc shaped with a dome on top. She wasn't able to take a picture of it but she did attempt a drawing which I will post on her experiences thread.
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Post by paulette on Aug 1, 2012 20:45:51 GMT -6
Outines pretty clearly that commercial pilots do NOT report UFOs - for good reasons. Like keeping a job or even a pilot's license.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2012 9:16:24 GMT -6
Thank You (whoever ) for reporting it. I wish I could seee the passenger list
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Post by skywalker on Aug 2, 2012 9:33:16 GMT -6
It probably wouldn't do any good, Jc. Most people don't look out the window on airplanes unless they are little kids and who would believe them if they said they saw something weird?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2012 9:48:11 GMT -6
Fascinating! Don't blame him one bit for not giving his name.
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Post by skywalker on Aug 2, 2012 9:56:55 GMT -6
If so many people saw this thing how come more people haven't reported it? Where are all the pictures? You telling me nobody on board that plane had a camera? I wanna see pictures!!
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Post by paulette on Aug 3, 2012 10:01:10 GMT -6
It probably wouldn't do any good, Jc. Most people don't look out the window on airplanes unless they are little kids and who would believe them if they said they saw something weird? I agree. Especially at night - people have the window blinds down. I flew to Texas one day years ago and was kept occupied watching clouds. There were two of us avidly watching out the window. The other person was about 8 years old.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2012 14:24:13 GMT -6
It probably wouldn't do any good, Jc. Most people don't look out the window on airplanes unless they are little kids and who would believe them if they said they saw something weird? I agree. Especially at night - people have the window blinds down. I flew to Texas one day years ago and was kept occupied watching clouds. There were two of us avidly watching out the window. The other person was about 8 years old. I always look out the window "avidly" too. It keeps me from having a panic attack because airplanes scare me. When I'm in a car I have to see movement out the window. If I don't I get motion sick and end up getting a tell-tale headache followed by severe nausea... my doc said it's because of my vision problems. My body senses movement- my eyes do not and my brain gets confused I guess was what he said... ~shrug~ I've never gotten sick on an airplane though- they just make me really nervous... when I was a kid I used to be the one who would scream, "We're all gonna die!!" when we hit turbulence. Yea. That was me. Sorry... Paulette- one theory I have as to why nobody took pictures is that people turn off their cell phones on the airplane. I know I do every time, and my cell phone stays off the whole time I'm on the plane because that's what they tell you to do during takeoff...~shrug~
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Post by yamacycler on Aug 3, 2012 15:20:09 GMT -6
Curiously enough the pilot didn't give an estimate of its size. Also left me wondering what ASD is.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2012 16:49:39 GMT -6
Curiously enough the pilot didn't give an estimate of its size. Also left me wondering what ASD is. I'd guess it's probably the Assistant State Director for Mufon.
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Post by skywalker on Aug 4, 2012 10:03:33 GMT -6
Apparently a motorist on the ground also saw a UFO in the area the same day that the pilot filed his report. This sighting occurred early in the morning however. Could it be the same thing?
Case number:41335 I had not given this sighting another thought until I learned a pilot flying into KCI airport reported something he had seen.
I drive into work early every morning between 4:50 - 5:09 AM, which is the time I reach close to downtown Kansas City. I will never forget what I saw. At first I thought I was just tired and imagined it. While driving on I-35 south (close to downtown KMCO) I saw a disc- shaped object. It was kind of a blue/white and it was indeed some sort of craft. It was just sitting in the sky/hovering.
It then moved a bit to the right/flying, and then stopped and suddenly went vertical. I have never seen an airplane or helicopter make a move like that. It seemed impossible. It disappeared into the sky after moving very fast vertically. Very, very scary object; it was clearly not man-made that I could tell. What is going on?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2012 13:37:20 GMT -6
I agree. Especially at night - people have the window blinds down. I flew to Texas one day years ago and was kept occupied watching clouds. There were two of us avidly watching out the window. The other person was about 8 years old. I always look out the window "avidly" too. It keeps me from having a panic attack because airplanes scare me. When I'm in a car I have to see movement out the window. If I don't I get motion sick and end up getting a tell-tale headache followed by severe nausea... my doc said it's because of my vision problems. My body senses movement- my eyes do not and my brain gets confused I guess was what he said... ~shrug~ I've never gotten sick on an airplane though- they just make me really nervous... when I was a kid I used to be the one who would scream, "We're all gonna die!!" when we hit turbulence. Yea. That was me. Sorry... Paulette- one theory I have as to why nobody took pictures is that people turn off their cell phones on the airplane. I know I do every time, and my cell phone stays off the whole time I'm on the plane because that's what they tell you to do during takeoff...~shrug~ Ummmmmm, guys? I was interested in the Passenger List because I'm thinking that the ufo was interested in possibly ONE person on the airplane? Not that I would know WHO, that would be. But let's pretend, say, I'm the steward and skywalker is the pilot of this commercial airline. We fly together regularly. Occasionally, we see things in the sky that are noticed by our passengers also. But, most often, we see things that they don't. Maybe thats just because of the flight hours we put in, who knows? But skywalker and I, we fly together so much that we have "code words" for when we see these things . We have learned over time that .... brb
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2012 14:04:34 GMT -6
Ok, I'm pretty much right back . and yeah, I was kind of doing what I call a "bunny trail" (as in follow the white rabbit with the watch as he goes down his hole in the ground; *alice in slumber, , er. . I mean wonder. . .land ;D). And probably going too deep. Ugh. Are you guys my friends? Why were YOU thinking I wanted a passenger list? Do you think I'm going to question each and every passenger to ask them what they saw? And then what? Me: "Mr. Doe, you saw it too?! (I'm excited and incredulous). Why didn't you report it??! (still excited and incredulous).Oh.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2012 14:13:24 GMT -6
ok, even more odd . When I posted the above with other peoples comments, that posting included Sky's answer to me about me wanting to see the passenger list. . . So, for those of you who I have now thoroughly confused, I am trying to explain why I initially said I would like to see the passenger list of this recent flight that was reported on by the pilot. And, for further confusion, I am NOT trying to say that more people saw the ufo and are not admitting it.
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Post by auntym on Aug 4, 2012 14:16:26 GMT -6
www.theufochronicles.com/2012/08/pilots-declaration-of-ufo-sighting.htmlworldufophotosandnews.org/Saturday, August 04, 2012 Pilot's Declaration of UFO Sighting While On Approach To Kansas City International Airport [/color] PILOT SPOTS UFO ON APPROACH TO KANSAS CITY AIRPORT Posted on August 3, 2012 by PFEIFER PILOT SPOTS UFO ON APROACH TO KANSAS CITY AIRPORT 7-30-12 9 PM …. KANSAS CITY MISSOURI AIRPORT I am the pilot of a regularly scheduled commercial aircraft flight from St. Louis to Kansas City and was on approach to KCI when my co-pilot said he saw an unidentified object to the right of the aircraft that appeared to be following us. It was not yet in my range of view, so I asked him to confirm that and the object remained. I radioed the tower and asked for radar confirmation but there was none. Then the object came into my view to the right front of the aircraft. At that point we were approximately 35 minutes out from the airport. The object was a silver/gray color and had three blue/white lights on the bottom and one on the top. It was a disc-shaped craft with a low dome on top. It was approximately 300 feet from our aircraft and NNE of our position. Then the object suddenly moved underneath us and to the left, and continued at the our same rate of speed. I discussed this with my co-pilot and we decided not to tell the tower what we saw because of what happens when reports like this are made. The tower then asked us to confirm an unidentified object and I said it was no longer in view. I was concerned, however, that it might be a problem. The object stayed with us for approximately 22 minutes. When I decreased aircraft speed for approach, the object slowed as well, then went directly south of our position at a very high rate of speed – faster than any aircraft Ive ever seen. I was a military pilot for 14 years and know what type of aircraft we have. It was definitely NOT a man-made aircraft. Some pilots have lost their jobs when they report a UFO, and I would like to keep mine so am not providing my name or contact information. Some of the passengers were discussing this as they left the plane but we did not discuss it with them. Other crew members saw it as well, but did not report it. I just wanted to tell someone about it. Note: phone number is for ASD since witness would not provide a number. NOTE: The above image is a rendering. CONTINUE READING: worldufophotosandnews.org/
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2012 14:29:37 GMT -6
Uhm... JC?
~hugz~
I have no idea what you're talking about in your last three posts, but I wasn't trying to be mean to you if that's how I came across...
~scratches head~
~is confused but this is normal for me~
Oh well...
~grins like an idiot~ ;D
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2012 15:53:34 GMT -6
No, no one is being "mean" to me, my friend. The responses that came to my comment "I wish I could see the passenger list" confused Me.If it doesn't get deleted, it appears that I was not clear on why I (ME) would like to see the passenger list. The next conversation, if you look above, went on to talk about that most likely the passengers did NOT see the ufo. Except maybe a child looking out the window. I understand that. So, why would I like to see the passenger list? I guess I was just thinking differently than you guys, OR you actually helped clarify this situation. We all (that commented here) seem to agree that this ufo was not noticed by anyone other than the pilot. And now it seems also the ufo was seen by someone, from the ground in the general area. And, of course maybe more people DID see it, and are not saying they did. The point was that regardless of WHO saw it, or how many people saw it, the PILOT decided to make a report. Now, we seem to agree, that even if the PILOT remains unknown, it is still unusual to hear from the PILOT. This can be taken in different ways . 1. Pilots do not see ufos every week. (just suppose). 2. when they do see ufos, even if it is daily, they make a decision of if and when they are going to A) talk about it B) report it C) keep a personal journal D) shrug their shoulders E)none of the above 3. Pilots DO see ufos often (just suppose) 4. This particular Pilot has seen questionable things, but this is (In His Opinion) his first "real ufo" (just suppose) 5. now refer back to #2 again, please. But I didn't make some random comment like "I wonder who the Pilot is?". And about now, I'm going to go finish fixing dinner and understand that by now, some people are wishing that my comment was ignored. I'm not saying that the President of the United States was on that plane and that he had an unofficial escort. I'm not asking about the passenger list because this event is so important that it is another step towards disclosure. I'm asking why this particular airplane, this particular moment in time, this ufo SEEMS interested in this plane. Shoot, maybe the "alien" on board sneezed and hit the button that made him visible. Maybe this is a rebellious teenage "alien" that just got busted at home because some Pilot saw him. IDK. Randy (here on this forum) has verified that sometimes, when he does something different, like go out of town, he is visited by something we consider unusual. At least that is how the situation feels to Randy. I am positive that he is not alone in feeling this way. So, in my random question about the passenger list, I was wondering out loud if the UFO's intended target (possibly ONE person on board that airplane) got the "message" he (or she) was supposed to get. Now, if we hear tomorrow (just suppose) that a nuclear warhead was stashed on that airplane, we can wonder about the passenger list for another reason . It was a "random question" that I wrote out loud, and I do not expect to get my answer any time soon. If someone did get a 'message' of some sort from that ufo, OR OR IF we (including the pilot and others) are just left (again) proclaiming that these "things" are pretty cool, and we wish we could fly like that (instead of strapping ourselves to a roller coaster), maybe it doesn't matter at all. IDK. Maybe I need to get back to my job. Playing "I-SPY" with those little rascals has never resulted in getting a fried twinkie for me, though. Are fried twinkies good? ;D (I just wanted to edit out that number below my last smiley face. My PC totally went dead. I had to do a "recover" to get it to even start )
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Post by skywalker on Aug 4, 2012 23:48:03 GMT -6
To be honest, Jc, it never even occurred to me that the UFO might have been interested in somebody on board the plane. Perhaps that is why there was some confusion. (My brain must have taken a short vacation : I always hear about UFOs following planes but I never asked why they were doing it. I figured they were just curious. Maybe they really were looking for some specific person. It's possible. If we ever catch one of the little buggers we can ask him. As for other passengers who may have saw the thing the report said that some people were talking about it as they got off. they probably will keep silent about it though...not because they feel any need to keep quiet but probably because they don't know who to report it to. They probably don't even know they are supposed to report it. Most average ordinary citizens have never heard of MUFON, EPIC, CUFOS or any of the other organizations that people here take for granted. When ordinary people see UFOs they usually think, "Boy, that was weird!" and then they forget about it. The pilot, being a professional who is used to seeing things in the sky, was obviously impressed with this one. It must have really been something out of the ordinary. My experience shows me that pilots don't often make reports, even when they do see unidentified things.
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Post by lois on Aug 18, 2012 23:07:16 GMT -6
jc. I have ask my self for thirty to forty years who was on that plane? Yes it always comes to mind with ufos making contact with planes. Many passengers in some cases have come forward telling what they saw. I once had a dream years and years ago. A ufo approached a plane and people started vanishing out of their seats. Everyone was trying to crawl under their own seat on the plane . Like maybe if I hide they won't take me. I was not excited in this dream at all. It was more like who goes next? It could be in some cases they are interested in one individual on board.
There was a case some where in Latin America where the ufo played cant and mouse with the pilot and would not let him land. Everytime the pilot made a turn to line the plane up for a decent to the runway the ufo pulls right up in front of him . he cannot land. All the passengers watched in horror. One girl who spoke English was on a sightings TV series when they put the story on. She told it just the way the pilot told it., This pilot is no longer a pilot. He is a ufo researcher, yes it is hard to believe, He was on the show also telling how the public needed to know this aliens were here. I have no way of putting my tapes on the forum. Oh how I would love too. What I mean is when a thread gets started. I will think to myself I know what this is .. I got it all on tape at the time it happen in a lot of cases. .
This pilot says he goes up on the mountains and meditates. It shows him with a sombrero on his head and his blanket on his shoulders as he talks in this film. I guess it scared him to death as he was responsible for all the people on that plane. He had no idea how to handle the situation..
Handle the situation. ha.. there is no way to handle a ufo . Yet they make the guild lines for pilots now days. I would love to see what they want them to do. .
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Post by lois on Aug 18, 2012 23:20:40 GMT -6
I know this is going to sound stupid, but not coming from me as you all know this statement had to be made by Lois. ..
At one time he said the ufo was right under him and it was really scaring the passengers to death. I thought . Well maybe his landing gear was not working. or something like that. So they keep him in the sky til they fixed it with beams or anything, who know their technology?
I don't think Aliens would be as hard to understand as mankind seem to think.
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Post by lois on Aug 18, 2012 23:29:35 GMT -6
Just like poor Freddie in Australia .. I have always had a hunch there was some thing wrong with his plane but no one knew it. If this be the case, they would not ever let him come back as his knew too much so to speak. I guess they could block is memory, IF THAT IS WHAT THEy DO witnesses.
We don't even know that they do for sure. It could be our own minds blocking an event with a ufo contact experience..
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