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Post by niki on Aug 1, 2013 11:17:54 GMT -6
I heard a funny joke about crop circles....it was: What if, when we finally get to ask the aliens "what's up with all the crop circles?" they answer, "we really just don't like corn."  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2013 13:55:24 GMT -6
Out of curiosity...reading your joke, I wanted to see what other crops they didn't like. A lot evidently but what was surprising is that they've been found on ice, snow or clay ground, although those are rare. Generally it's wheat, barley, rye, maize, or rapeseed but (and this was news to me) the first reported in Australia and it was in swamp reeds. Apparently a lot of them come from Australia in swamp reeds or sugar cane. Cool..stuff I didn't know. I need like a scan disc for my brain..dump history and temp files..that sort of thing to make room on the old hard drive  www.thegreaterpicture.com/crops.htmlen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crop_circle |
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Post by auntym on Aug 4, 2013 13:33:48 GMT -6
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/10217151/Crop-circles-demystified-how-the-patterns-are-created.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+C2C-InTheNews+%28Feed+-+Coast+to+Coast+-+In+the+News%29Crop circles demystified: how the patterns are createdThe most intricate crop circles, which have baffled experts and fuelled rumours of alien visitors, have relied upon careful planning and execution.  In the past, the best crop circles have attracted tourists from around the world, sparked rumours of aliens and theories of fiendishly difficult mathematical formulas hidden in their meaning. Photo: REX FEATURES By Louis Jani, and Richard Gray 02 Aug 2013 Numbers of the destructive crop designs have fallen dramatically this year, with just 15 being counted in July compared to 50 the previous year. In the past, the most ambitious crop circles have attracted tourists from around the world, sparked rumours of aliens and theories of fiendishly difficult mathematical formulas hidden in their meaning. Most scientists now agree that crop circles are man-made. This week one crop circle creator announced he has retired from the practice due to hay fever. Matthew Williams, 42, who was the first person to be prosecuted for destruction of a farmers crops when creating a circle, also bemoaned falling standards as amateurs have taken to creating squares and circles – poor imitations to some of the intricate patterns made in the past. While the first accounts of crop formations start in the 16th century, when they were attributed to fairies or the Devil, the creation of modern crop circles still remains a closely guarded secret. According to cereologists, who study the origins of circles, creators use tools such as ropes, ladders and planks of wood to flatten out their design. Here we attempt to demystify how crop circles are created: 1. Find a field This is a key first step – many crop artists now seek permission of the farmer and landowner to enter the field due to the harm these designs cause to crops and so yields from a field. The damage caused by crop circles can cost farmers up to £1,000 in lost revenue, depending the size of the area flattened. Some farmers have begun charging visitors to look at crop circles to offset any losses they incur. The right kind of crop also makes a difference – wheat, barley and rapeseed oils are seen as being best. The plants need to be at the right stage of development. If they are too old and dry, they can break easily, leaving a tell tale path of the artist's passage through the field. Too young and they won't bend down enough and the design will be hard to spot. CONTINUE READING: www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/10217151/Crop-circles-demystified-how-the-patterns-are-created.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+C2C-InTheNews+%28Feed+-+Coast+to+Coast+-+In+the+News%29
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Post by lois on Aug 15, 2013 22:16:47 GMT -6
A ufo website from I Italy I shared with Mark on FB. posted this video tonight and wanted to share. Of course this is only speculation. again.
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Post by auntym on Aug 23, 2013 11:12:55 GMT -6
www.openminds.tv/slow-crop-circle-season-produces-two-formations-within-a-week-1117/
Slow crop circle season produces two formations within a weekPosted by: Alejandro Rojas August 20, 2013  Crop circle in Hackpen Hill, August 2013. (Credit: Frank Lauman/www.VisibleSigns.de) Historically the county of Wiltshire in South West England, home of Stonehenge, has been the focal point for crop circles. Nearly 90 percent of all crop circles have been found in this area, typically in the summer months. However, this season has been slower than usual, with two of the most dramatic and impressive formations being found in the beginning of August. So far, many of the crop circles of the season have been sub-par. In fact, according to the UK newspaper the Daily Express, locals have taken to calling many of them “crap circles.” However, the first of the two this month that demonstrate the typical awe-inspiring artistry that crop circle enthusiasts are used to was found on August 6, in Monument Hill, near the town of Devizes in Wiltshire.  Crop circle from August 6, 2013 in Monument Hill, near the town of Devizes in Wiltshire. (Credit: Frank Lauman/www.VisibleSigns.de) This circle is described as being a huge cube surrounded by a decorative ring. It is 390 feet in diameter. Five days later another impressive formation was found 15 miles away in Hackpen Hill. The second is smaller, 60 feet in diameter, and a circle with six decorative wedge shapes, touching at their tips almost like flower pedals. Crop circle researcher Lucy Pringle told the Mirror newspaper, “Suddenly it is all happening just as most overseas visitors have left our shores. Both these circles are the largest and most elaborate so far this summer and contain interesting geometry.” This year has seen a dramatic decrease in the amount of crop circles found throughout the country side. According to the Daily Express by early August of 2012 there had already been over 50 formations reported, whereas in the same time this year there has only been 15. In order to gain some insight into why this might be, the Daily Express interviewed Mathew Williams, a crop circle maker. Williams was actually the first person in the UK to be convicted using a newly formed law in 2001 that criminalized crop circle making. He was fined 125 pounds, the equivalent of almost 200 dollars today. Ironically, Williams had to stop making crop circles recently due to hay fever. As for the decrease in circles, he says: CONTINUE READING: www.openminds.tv/slow-crop-circle-season-produces-two-formations-within-a-week-1117/
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Post by auntym on Oct 7, 2013 13:31:18 GMT -6
www.phantomsandmonsters.com/2013/10/daily-2-cents-crop-circle-true.htmlMonday, October 07, 2013 Crop Circle True Believers   (PHOTO: ODDSOCK/FLICKR) Crop Circle True Believers On a January morning in 1966, a farmer named George Pedley was driving his tractor on his neighbor’s land near Horseshoe Lagoon, just outside the Queensland, Australia, town of Euramo, when he heard a hiss. Shortly afterward, he claimed, he saw a flying saucer rise from the nearby swamp, where he believed the strange sound had come from, and fly away. Pedley left the tractor and went over to the swamp to investigate. There he found a swath of reeds swirled clockwise into a circle, by his estimate, 30 feet in diameter. Later, with the help of his neighbor, Albert Pennisi, Pedley waded into the water among the reeds and discovered that they had been fully uprooted. The effect was something like a giant (perhaps even flying saucer-sized) floating nest, the reeds, presumably, pressed flat in the direction of a spinning craft taking flight from among them. The local press took interest, as did other farmers, and soon five more “nests” were found. There is, if you’d like to know how they were situated, a diagram. Despite the fact that a number of residents said the circular reed pattern was a fairly common swamp event during the beginning of the wet season—and a local police officer together with the University of Queensland concluded the effect was most likely caused by a “willy-willy,” which is apparently the delightful name given to dust devils by the Australian people—the “saucer nest” story took off. Called the “Tully nests” after another nearby town, the events of 1966 made an Australian Roswell of the sightings, inspiring dozens of residents and UFO enthusiasts to record circle patterns found among the reeds for years afterward. All in all, the alien theory raised a lot of difficult questions. The Tully nests, too, became the precursor to a much wider and well-known phenomenon, one that has inspired countless devotees, scientific (and not-so-scientific) debate, and one fair-to-middling M. Night Shyamalan movie: crop circles. Continue reading at PSMag: www.psmag.com/science-environment/meet-croppies-crop-circle-science-aliens-67504/www.phantomsandmonsters.com/2013/10/daily-2-cents-crop-circle-true.html
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Post by auntym on Oct 18, 2013 10:02:04 GMT -6
devoid.blogs.heraldtribune.com/14168/at-peace-in-obscurity/At peace in obscurityBy Billy Cox, Herald-Tribune / Thursday, October 17, 2013 So how will the groundbreaking research of biophysicist William Levengood ultimately be regarded? For colleague Nancy Talbot, writing an obituary tribute on the controversial crop-circle investigator who died in September at 88, Levengood will go down as a visionary when science decides to catch up. “His work has laid a foundation upon which future scientific efforts will build,” she wrote, “and he will be remembered by many other people with whom he worked on additional not-yet-understood ‘anomalous’ phenomena.” Can we, like, skip all this science stuff and get right to the space aliens, But Levengood’s passing went largely unnoticed otherwise, with barely a shrug from the UFO crowd. His death now leaves Talbot as the sole survivor of the BLT Research Team, which began making news in the Nineties for documenting truly remarkable biological abnormalities that appear to be percolating inside some crop circles. John Burke, the “B” in the BLT acronym, died in 2010. Today, Talbot carries on from Cambridge, Mass., despite that fact that her resources “have dwindled to almost nothing.” Levengood’s critics actually wrote his obituary a decade or so ago during a heated row over his academic credentials — did he or did he not falsely claim he had a doctorate? But the sideshow couldn’t alter some inconvenient facts, chief among them that dozens of his unrelated botanical research papers had been accepted and published in mainstream peer-reviewed science journals. It’s unlikely Levengood’s CV would’ve incurred any scrutiny at all had he not immersed himself in cereology, a discipline so new, the word is a 21st century addition to the Oxford Dictionary. Undaunted by hoaxers confessing to creating wheat-field patterns with boards and ropes in 1991, and BLT plunged headlong into the wrangle and subjected the grains to systematic inquiry. They would eventually collect affected and controlled samples from 17 countries, from Australia to Scandinavia. And the data they compiled was solid enough for publication in the Journal of Scientific Exploration, and twice in Physiologia Planatrum. Combing through fields with and without the ornate geometric patterns, BLT discovered the targeted areas had been subjected to intense heat, of the electromagnetic variety. Plant-stem joints directly below the seed heads revealed the sort of drastic elongation and bending that could not be induced by mechanical flattening; samples collected at the circle centers tended to be the most egregiously affected. Sometimes the microwave temps were so high, moisture inside the stalks turned to steam which escaped by blowing holes through the nodes. Levengood and Burke managed to replicate this activity in the lab by bombarding plants beneath an “ion avalanche” of energy that generated complex plasmas. Without her knowledge, Talbot tells De Void, they patented the process under the trademarked name Stressguard. “Levengood and Burke both knew that if I found out they were trying to patent it, I would’ve been upset,” she says. “I would’ve given it to the world and made it available to farmers for free.”
CONTINUE READING: devoid.blogs.heraldtribune.com/14168/at-peace-in-obscurity/
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Post by swamprat on Oct 18, 2013 10:45:30 GMT -6
Sorry Auntym! You beat me to it!
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Post by auntym on Nov 20, 2013 14:42:55 GMT -6
www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/20/two-brazil-crop-circles-form-on-same-day_n_4298725.html?utm_hp_ref=weird-news
2 Crop Circles Crop Up On The Same Day In BrazilBy Lee Speigel Posted: 11/20/2013  These two crop circles appeared in Brazil on Nov. 2, 2013, at two separate locations, within a short period of time and approximately the same size. | A.J. Gevaerd / YouTube Two crop circles recently appeared near the town of Ipuacu in the Brazilian state of Santa Catarina. What makes this even more interesting is that they were reported on the same day -- Nov. 2 -- according to Open Minds.tv. The other eye-opening part of this story is that UFO researchers have offered a $20,000 reward to anyone who can show how the circles were faked. And by fake, of course, they mean created by humans. Crop circles are mysterious, elaborate designs that unexpectedly show up in farmers' fields seemingly overnight. Explanations have run the gamut of their being left here by UFOs; unusual weather patterns; military experiments; and the most accepted theory of the circles is that they're the work of highly artistic hoaxers.
Watch as UFO magazine founder, A.J. Gevaerd, gets a helicopter point of view of the crop circles:
See what it's like to walk through the second Brazilian crop circle: CONTINUE READING: www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/20/two-brazil-crop-circles-form-on-same-day_n_4298725.html?utm_hp_ref=weird-news
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Post by lois on Nov 22, 2013 1:00:10 GMT -6
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Post by lois on Jan 1, 2014 11:46:47 GMT -6
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Post by lois on Jan 1, 2014 11:51:23 GMT -6
This has to be old news as nothing but snow in New England right now.. anyone know the date of this circle. I missed it some where along the way of checking for them..
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Post by auntym on Jan 1, 2014 12:25:09 GMT -6
This has to be old news as nothing but snow in New England right now.. anyone know the date of this circle. I missed it some where along the way of checking for them.. |
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Post by auntym on Jan 1, 2014 17:23:02 GMT -6
This has to be old news as nothing but snow in New England right now.. anyone know the date of this circle. I missed it some where along the way of checking for them..
Crop Circles On California Farm In Salinas ValleyPublished on Dec 31, 2013 31 December 2013 A giant and intricate crop circle that appeared, seemingly overnight, on a farm in Salinas Valley, California has been drawing large crowds. The circle was reported by two friends who claimed on YouTube to have witnessed two bursts of light before dawn on Sunday morning. Such is the demand to see the mysterious phenomenon that security guards have been employed to keep onlookers at bay. So far no one, terrestrial or extra-terrestrial, has come forward to claim responsibility. www.ksbw.com/news/central-california/salinas/chualar-crop-circle-contains-message-braille-expert-says/-/5738906/23714786/-/i47ped/-/index.html |
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Post by skywalker on Jan 1, 2014 17:38:22 GMT -6
The circle is in California near a little town called Chualar which is just south of San Jose. The circle reportedly appeared the night of December 29. Local residents said it was not there on the 28th but some people claimed they saw people with ladders walking around in the field a few days before. The property owner very conveniently was out of town on vacation and the crop that was planted was barley that he wasn't planning on harvesting so also conveniently no damage was done.
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Post by lois on Jan 1, 2014 18:29:41 GMT -6
auntym . I just came back to edit my post as I took another look on my facebook and seen it was in California . I thought when reading it before I seen something about New Jersey.. No wonder it could of happened now . California is warm. Wow. I think I'm getting my fathers Parkinson disease. I cannot remember from minute to minute lately.. I sure hope not.  If from aliens this circle should prove4 many things. sky have they investigated if before the stupid farmer plowed it under? |
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Post by lois on Jan 1, 2014 18:35:41 GMT -6
The circle is in California near a little town called Chualar which is just south of San Jose. The circle reportedly appeared the night of December 29. Local residents said it was not there on the 28th but some people claimed they saw people with ladders walking around in the field a few days before. The property owner very conveniently was out of town on vacation and the crop that was planted was barley that he wasn't planning on harvesting so also conveniently no damage was done. Ladders? I don't see what that proves. Also why plant a crop if you are not going to harvest it. . Every thing about this is strange for sure to me. . A lot of people did see it. So I believe that is was there, everything is always too good to be true. I have not made up my mind . what did it say. That would help. If nonsense, you would know an alien would never of done it. Aliens come around when no on e is at home also. |
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Post by skywalker on Jan 1, 2014 19:05:49 GMT -6
Yes, it was there for sure. The farmer dude planted the barley just to add some nutrients to the soil. He was going to let the plants grow and then die and then he would plow them into the ground...kind of like natural fertilizer. He hired a bunch of armed security guards to keep people from going onto his land so nobody could actually go out and investigate. Kind of suspicious to be hiring armed guards. Makes me wonder what else he might have been growing out there.  The little dots on the inside of the circle supposedly are a braille inscription that supposedly reads... 192 192 B 192 1 192 192 Nobody has a clue what the heck that is supposed to mean...except maybe whoever made it. Don't know why an alien would be writing in braille in a crop circle. How is any blind person supposed to see it?  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2014 15:20:28 GMT -6
Some pictures of it here news.yahoo.com/blogs/trending-now/mystery-of-california-crop-circle-may-never-be-solved-180511798.html?vp=1in 3 places it's supposed to refer to 1 9 2 I haven't heard anything about people and ladders but I imagine ladders could be used to flatten plant material. I'm not sure it's stupid to not want people prowling all over your property. Some people were allowed in to photograph but who wants hoards of lookie loos...wandering around? Unfortunately...crowds are just plain rude and don't have consideration for others so..in some effort to keep them from showing up...these things get plowed up. Can't blame the farmer for protecting his property. This is from the farmer..and it was plowed because he was besieged by people |
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Post by lois on Jan 2, 2014 20:02:08 GMT -6
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Post by plutronus on Jan 2, 2014 21:04:11 GMT -6
The circle is in California near a little town called Chualar which is just south of San Jose. The circle reportedly appeared the night of December 29. Local residents said it was not there on the 28th but some people claimed they saw people with ladders walking around in the field a few days before. The property owner very conveniently was out of town on vacation and the crop that was planted was barley that he wasn't planning on harvesting so also conveniently no damage was done. The following is a letter I sent to a friend about the California Dec 28, 2013 crop-circle that aired in California on KABC News on the 31st. However, I first heard about the matter from a California MUFON Director up the coast. One can not rely on anything one learns via US television news as are completely controlled, might as well be living in Communist China. |
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Post by skywalker on Jan 2, 2014 22:28:16 GMT -6
So you're saying it's a hoax, hmm? Just as I suspected. It all seemed a little too convenient.
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Post by skywalker on Jan 2, 2014 22:31:47 GMT -6
Uhh...I think you just gave your pin number to every thief on the planet. Might be a good idea to pick another one before hackers start hacking into your stuff.  |
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Post by lois on Jan 3, 2014 0:10:05 GMT -6
no the pins I sue it for is not like that sky. nothing to do with banks or computers.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 11:20:19 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 12:28:31 GMT -6
I don't think this one is a hoax Sky at least not based on presented evidence. Around the holidays...vacations are not 'convenient' they are very common for family get togethers. There wasn't damage to the crop (which is also an animal fodder crop used for grazing) but he has other truck planted which are food items...and people were pouring all over the place. Much like herds of cattle people trample what they walk on and have no respect for another person's property or property lines. The word stampede comes to mind. I see people with ladders around here daily. Construction workers..utility workers and people using ladders to de-decorate after Christmas. Surely it could be a fake...it could be aliens bespeaking the minds of people causing them to go berserk and make a crop circle or it could be a legitimate crop circle. Feels real to me though....although the braille idea stumps me either way unless they were figuring on people being so 'blind' as to think it a fake LOL
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Post by skywalker on Jan 4, 2014 14:35:37 GMT -6
The original crop circles that first appeared hundreds of years ago were not fakes. But they weren't intricate designs like those that are being made nowadays either. The original circles were actual circles which is why they are called crop circles instead of crop designs. They usually appeared immediately following a thunderstorm or in association with some other form of abnormal electrical event. There have also been other incidents of flattened grass that has defied explanation, like that which Lorelei experienced around her house a while back. That definitely was not a fake. I'm still undecided about the current "crop circles" that are made as intricate designs. Many of them have been proven to be hoaxes, and when you see designs that look like bicycles, ice cream cones or Bozo the clown you can be pretty sure that they were not created by any non-human form of advanced intelligence. That doesn't mean all of the designs are hoaxes though. Some may not be. There are some physical characteristics that appear sometimes in crop circles, like the way the plants blister or chemical changes in the ground, that would not have been caused by people stomping on the plants with boards. So it is possible some of them very well may not be hoaxes. Whether or not the recent one in California was real or a hoax can no longer be determined since it has been plowed over and destroyed. I don't blame the farmer for plowing it under though. There are so many self appointed "experts" now who waste no time trespassing or trampling around on a farmer's crops and causing damage that they are giving all crop circle researchers a bad reputation. It's the same as what happened when those idiot self-proclaimed "ghost hunters" burned that mansion down in Louisiana. People like that are ruining everything for everybody. |
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Post by skywalker on Jan 4, 2014 14:43:02 GMT -6
Surely it could be a fake... it could be aliens bespeaking the minds of people causing them to go berserk and make a crop circle or it could be a legitimate crop circle. That's an interesting thought there, Jo. If telepathic aliens can put thoughts into people's heads telling them to go outside at a certain time or to become more environmentally conscious or whatever, what's to say they aren't putting the ideas into the minds of the "hoaxers" to go out and create the circles? Some of those man-made designs may actually be messages from the ETs that were put in the heads of the people who then had the compulsion to go out and do all the actual work while the aliens just kick back and wait for us to finally "get the message" they have been trying to communicate. |
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Post by auntym on Jan 4, 2014 15:45:24 GMT -6
humansarefree.com/2014/01/the-salinas-california-crop-circle.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+HumansAreFree+%28Humans+Are+Free%29Jan. 4, 2014
The Salinas, California Crop Circle DECODEDIn my yesterday article I have covered the discovery of a one acre big crop circle in Salinas, California. One night before it became popular, a couple of friends were driving on Chualar Canyon Road, south of Salinas, California before sunrise, when they've witnessed green flashes of light above a crop field nearby. After getting out of the car to closely investigate the sighting, they've stumbled across the - now famous - Salinas crop circle formation. In this article I will present to you the most probable interpretations of the Salinas, California crop circle formation. I. The Salinas, California Crop Circle DECODED: A “polar clock”, a “bright comet” and three clever codes uncovered The overall imagery used at Chualar was that of a “polar clock” (see polarclock). As you may recall, another “polar clock” was drawn in crops at Manton Drove near Marlborough, England on June 2, 2012 (see manton drove). It successfully predicted a safe landing for NASA Curiosity Rover on Mars, two months later by its specified date of August 5, 2012. This new “polar clock” at Chualar, California shows a “bright, long-tailed comet” as the predicted astronomical event:  Inside we can see the “CCD chip from a digital camera”. This might imply that many people in Earth will photograph a bright comet in early 2014: 
CONTINUE READING: humansarefree.com/2014/01/the-salinas-california-crop-circle.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+HumansAreFree+%28Humans+Are+Free%29
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Post by plutronus on Jan 5, 2014 1:01:31 GMT -6
The original crop circles that first appeared hundreds of years ago were not fakes. But they weren't intricate designs like those that are being made nowadays either. The original circles were actual circles which is why they are called crop circles instead of crop designs. They usually appeared immediately following a thunderstorm or in association with some other form of abnormal electrical event. There have also been other incidents of flattened grass that has defied explanation, like that which Lorelei experienced around her house a while back. That definitely was not a fake. I'm still undecided about the current "crop circles" that are made as intricate designs. Many of them have been proven to be hoaxes, and when you see designs that look like bicycles, ice cream cones or Bozo the clown you can be pretty sure that they were not created by any non-human form of advanced intelligence. That doesn't mean all of the designs are hoaxes though. Some may not be. There are some physical characteristics that appear sometimes in crop circles, like the way the plants blister or chemical changes in the ground, that would not have been caused by people stomping on the plants with boards. So it is possible some of them very well may not be hoaxes. Whether or not the recent one in California was real or a hoax can no longer be determined since it has been plowed over and destroyed. I don't blame the farmer for plowing it under though. There are so many self appointed "experts" now who waste no time trespassing or trampling around on a farmer's crops and causing damage that they are giving all crop circle researchers a bad reputation. It's the same as what happened when those idiot self-proclaimed "ghost hunters" burned that mansion down in Louisiana. People like that are ruining everything for everybody. SkyWalker, There is an odd correlation re; electrical storms and those of certain suspected ET object observations. If you'll recall the CE-III movie (Jacques Vallee was the technical consultant for ET info accuracy), where they were on Devils Peak and the clouds formed with lightening flashes occurring. There is a working theory being considered by "Invisible-College" community the suggests that the electrical disturbance is an element of craft manifestation within our dimension...eg, when they decide to make their entrance, that atmospheric electricity becomes elevated as a result of the dimension shifting. There are other similar schema being considered as well. As for the farmer mowing down his field which was directly adjacent to the only public access point to the field, to protect it from hordes tramping it down, well, that seems odd. Why cut down the field that is being protected? The soil? Or the green stuff? Yep. I quite agree. Braille-Code? Somethings fishy about that too. And since when does ET understand something that is only taught to Humans that can't see? And the portent of the code? A couple of numbers? And then the unknown investigators in suits who were accompanied by the security consultants using ropes to measure the circle with no other equipment? Is it it fishy? Is it a hoax? Of course it is, in my opinion. Reptilians don't draw Humans pretty little pictures in crops...nope. When they're around, they just eat us. They are literally the Devil of the Bible ("Satan, that old dragon"). What about Grey's? Everyone knows that they drive the discs, while its true that all of the crop-circles that have been video-taped being created, were created by luminous-orbs, it is also true that luminous-orbs are known to egress from discs. Greys...well it is strongly believed by authentic ET investigators that they do not see in the same manner as Humans, nor do Preying Mantis aliens, they are insects, they certainly don't cognize reality as we do, nor do the Priests of Ur, the Black-Sun'rs also don't. So who drew the Braille? Crop-circles are believed to be the handicraft of Greys' proxies, luminous-orbs. And while the only known collaborative Human-Grey activity, of which I'm directly aware, involved a Remote-Viewer. This Human allows them-self to act as a telepathic-cognitive link between the Grey disc pilot and RVer, to act as a reality-converter, thereby enabling the Grey pilot to 'see-through-the-RVer's-eyes" especially via neural-cognition. Greys don't cognitively rationalize our reality in the same manner that Humans visualize inside the mind's eye...how we 'see' reality. You open your eyes and look around, but when a Grey is in the same physical locality, and they look around, they don't see what we see by the same token, we don't see what they see. Cognitively we aren't compatible. Their physical senses, their eyes and their brains are wired differently than those organs in Humans. Only the names of the organs are similar. This cognitive disparity is part of the reason when Humans are within the influence-range of a Grey PSI field, (which is apparently more dominate than that of Human's), the psychic sensation is felt as being very strange, often connoting an intense fear-flight emotion. And again, I agree, re; Lorelei's saucer-circle. It didn't look like Braille inside a box either, or 152ft in diameter. The pattern found around her place was wholly consistent with that of near-ground disc-hovering or possibly even a disc-landing, but in my opinion, it wasn't a crop-circle and it wasn't made by bear or a pair of sweet-potatos running around with hand-held GPS & planks. I'm highly suspicious that thar is something mighty stinky about that Californication cheero-circle. plutronus |
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Now we got this one.. 
I came back again to edit this. I was not going to tell this but I guess I will . the last four digits of my social security number 
