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Post by auntym on Oct 10, 2012 11:21:43 GMT -6
www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/10/07/proof-of-heaven-a-doctor-s-experience-with-the-afterlife.htmlIn Newsweek Magazine
Heaven Is Real: A Doctor’s Experience With the Afterlife[/color] Dr. Eben Alexander Oct 8, 2012 When a neurosurgeon found himself in a coma, he experienced things he never thought possible—a journey to the afterlife.As a neurosurgeon, I did not believe in the phenomenon of near-death experiences. I grew up in a scientific world, the son of a neurosurgeon. I followed my father’s path and became an academic neurosurgeon, teaching at Harvard Medical School and other universities. I understand what happens to the brain when people are near death, and I had always believed there were good scientific explanations for the heavenly out-of-body journeys described by those who narrowly escaped death. The brain is an astonishingly sophisticated but extremely delicate mechanism. Reduce the amount of oxygen it receives by the smallest amount and it will react. It was no big surprise that people who had undergone severe trauma would return from their experiences with strange stories. But that didn’t mean they had journeyed anywhere real. Although I considered myself a faithful Christian, I was so more in name than in actual belief. I didn’t begrudge those who wanted to believe that Jesus was more than simply a good man who had suffered at the hands of the world. I sympathized deeply with those who wanted to believe that there was a God somewhere out there who loved us unconditionally. In fact, I envied such people the security that those beliefs no doubt provided. But as a scientist, I simply knew better than to believe them myself. In the fall of 2008, however, after seven days in a coma during which the human part of my brain, the neocortex, was inactivated, I experienced something so profound that it gave me a scientific reason to believe in consciousness after death. I know how pronouncements like mine sound to skeptics, so I will tell my story with the logic and language of the scientist I am. CONTINUE READING: www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/10/07/proof-of-heaven-a-doctor-s-experience-with-the-afterlife.html
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2012 17:21:03 GMT -6
I read that and I'm happy to see it because...while lots of people have recounted their 'trips' to heaven...people are listening to a neurosurgeon and that is a step forward. The little boy who came back with a tale of Jesus and heaven unfortunately had a pastor for a dad and they made a lot of money from books etc. The neurosurgeon had nothing to gain. If it gives some hope to a sagging world..YAY.
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Post by auntym on Oct 16, 2012 12:32:06 GMT -6
devoid.blogs.heraldtribune.com/13343/near-death-but-no-ufos/De Void
Near death, but no UFOs[/color] Tuesday, October 16, 2012 by Billy Cox . Unfortunately, Dr. Eben Alexander's near-death experience didn't leave radar signatures or generate government documents/CREDIT: thedailybeast.com Huzzahs to Newsweek editor-in-chief Tina Brown for the audacious Oct. 15 cover story, “Heaven Is Real.” The magazine’s circulation and revenues may be locked in a mortal tailspin, but Brown’s instincts for zigging where others zag are resilient. That lack of predictability has been a career trademark at venues like Vanity Fair, the New Yorker, Talk magazine, and The Daily Beast. And here we are again. Last week’s cover excerpted a book by Harvard neurosurgeon Dr. Eben Alexander, who emerged from a week-long coma in 2008 with an afterlife story that would appear to violate the tolerance threshold of the standard U.S. weekly news magazine. For instance: “A sound, huge and booming like a glorious chant, came down from above,” Alexander writes, “and I wondered if the winged beings were producing it. Again, thinking about it later, it occurred to me that the joy of these creatures, as they soared along, was such that they had come to make this noise — that if the joy didn’t come out of them this way then they would simply not otherwise be able to contain it. The sound was palpable and almost material, like a rain that you can feel on your skin but doesn’t get you wet.” Critics are clobbering him for it, naturally, but Alexander eschewed the professional risks in order to tell Newsweek readers what he says made this near-death experience unique: “As far as I know, no one before me has ever traveled to this dimension (a) while their cortex was completely shut down, and (b) while their body was under minute medical observation, as mine was for the full seven days of my coma.” That’s interesting. But how to corroborate the interior experience? De Void readers already know (precognition) where this is headed. Newsweek illustrated the “Heaven” article with three previous God-and-the-hereafter cover themes, and referred to its “numerous covers about religion, God, and that search.” Which is fine, except the archives for UFO data are orders of magnitude larger than for evidence of Alexander’s NDE. And yet, for all of its aspirations for going off the MSM rez and becoming an industry iconoclast, Tina Brown’s dying weekly has so far been incapable of applying any journalistic standards to The Great Taboo. CONTINUE READING: devoid.blogs.heraldtribune.com/13343/near-death-but-no-ufos/
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2012 21:16:29 GMT -6
Well...from the perspective of a lot of people who don't have much interest in UFO's. These stories of a continuance after death is reassuring..it's giving faith a big ole boost..and it's giving a gift to those near death..that it's not the end..they will be somewhere tomorrow not just in a block of earth or ashes on the wind. Knowledge of UFO's? Well most of us know they're hanging around but it's not reassuring to me to know there are others out there..I've always expected there to be. They live their lives..I live mine. Why is it so amazing to know this...did anyone really think we were the only ones? I know they are there and most of the time I wish I didn't know it. On the other hand people who have had NDE's sharing is a beautiful thing to me. Gives hope. Gives credence to God or some great director in the universal orchestra. And maybe visiting aliens want to here about NDE's for the same reassurances. The article in context was trying to compare apples and oranges I think. I'd rather see articles about everything
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2012 13:34:14 GMT -6
"There is nothing you can do wrong.” This caught my attention, from the article. How many times have we heard this? Sure, that's very reassuring to someone who has a conscience, and tries to live a life above hurting others intentionally. And I guess I have to reassure myself that people that intentionally do wrong, secretly know better than to think something like this? I believe this man had a profound, life-changing experience. I believe in these type of experiences in general, for the most part, because they have been so documented as being experienced by children. I believe the message of Love is HUGE, and I have seen a small glimpse of it myself, . But, the point I want to make, is we do have other NDE to compare it to. People seem to also have life-changing, horrible experiences, that are profound. "Nice people" have had these, too. Nevermind putting this topic right next to documentation of the "great taboo". I like jokelly's comment about aliens being interested in NDE's also. People have written about this being a common denominator between us and them. However, I do understand the writer from devoid's point. He wants to see disclosure, and even a hint of it would be nice, to him. So it really strikes home with me, that the ufo topic IS still a "great taboo". I mean, even the abduction experience (parts of it anyway, ) could be fathomed as some sort of NDE, or possible brain seizure, if so many people weren't having it. I mean, I may as well call an "abduction experience" a brain fart, which seems to be the equivalent of what scientists STILL think an NDE is. Yet, a NDE account gets top magazine coverage. When is the last time something "Big" like Time/Life came out with a series on the ufo topic? Even just recent pictures. . . ? Reassurance comes in so many different forms, IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2012 17:07:09 GMT -6
I don't think alien topics are taboo anymore. People either believe them or they don't because there is no defining proof. I sure can't prove mine but it's been ages since anyone skoffed at it when I talk about it. Usually they listen respectfully then go their own way to process or dismiss and that's what everyone should do. Believe or not. I had an NDE...not as elaborate as his but profound..and with a message that there is so much more we can't begin to imagine...so his..is just validation for me. I like the idea of people having less fear of death and more faith in a future after the big 'D'
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