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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2012 13:08:42 GMT -6
I ran into this in my travels..and found it interesting..in the way of reading a science fiction book..nothing about it rings true to me as I observed 'them' but who knows how many 'thems' there are? It's the claim of this guy that he remote viewed (and was inside an alien) doing various things during the period he was with them. www.viewzone.com/remote.grey.htmlThen there is Nigel kerner who says they are here harvesting souls..again..not something I would believe but some here might find it interesting for more like this..I used this search string and found several references to Grey's and remote viewing while trying to do a bit of research on it. search.yahoo.com/search?ei=UTF-8&fr=crmas&p=do+grey+aliens+notice+remote+viewers%3F
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2012 18:15:40 GMT -6
"The male can be kept alive after sexual union by means of drugs and programming implants, but the result is an intelligent zombie or bio-android, who is subject to a lot of degeneration. It appears that living males and females have never been seen on Earth, only zombie males. Only a zombie Grey can survive long periods of space travel, but look very different to the original. As far as Grey's are concerned, a zombie has lost its spirit or soul. Thus zombies are oversensitive to human emotion."
Lol. This is the first time I've heard some one else liken the greys to zombies. . . ;D
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Post by CitizenK on Dec 29, 2012 0:21:29 GMT -6
Well while we are comparing greys to zombies, could someone explain to me why the CDC created a zombie vaccine ?? I just don't get it. Maybe" this" is why?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2012 2:33:00 GMT -6
Zombie Aliens. Great...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2012 2:38:26 GMT -6
I think my theory is that they are so far evolved they have rid themselves of most emotions through evolution. They have become more logical and less instinct-driven... I like my idea better than the zombie idea... (or testicles on the forehead... yeech...)
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Post by plutronus on Dec 29, 2012 20:02:15 GMT -6
Well while we are comparing greys to zombies,
could someone explain to me why the CDC created a zombie vaccine ??
I just don't get it.
Maybe" this" is why? Heh heh heh...Hollywood version of 'zombies' is a corpse (ie, brain dead). Death is defined as no heart pumping of oxygen to the brain cells (cognition center). Brain cells die within a minute without oxygen and immediately begin to turn to mush. Within an hour, much of the brain-cells transition to a liquid phase, eventually running out of the head cavities). Hollywood 'zombies' are corpses that must be shot in the head to kill them. So what kind of vaccine could be made for that kind of illness?
Heh heh heh,
Yep.
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Post by skywalker on Dec 29, 2012 21:21:40 GMT -6
I think the zombie vaccine might have been part of a public relations campaign to get people more interested in surviving a natural disaster. The Feds used something entertaining (such as a zombie apocalypse) to get people's attention. Here is a link to the Center for Disease Control which talks a little bit about the program. www.cdc.gov/phpr/zombies.htm
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Post by plutronus on Dec 29, 2012 22:05:01 GMT -6
I think my theory is that they are so far evolved they have rid themselves of most emotions through evolution.
They have become more logical and less instinct-driven...
I like my idea better than the zombie idea...
(or testicles on the forehead... yeech...) Hi,
A waitress once told me in jest, "you know the difference between a gal's zipper and that of a guy's?, well when a gal, unzips her pants her brains don't fall out!" Heh heh heh, so, there ya go, some guys actually might have testicles near their brains!!
Greys are very likely ExtraTerrestrial insecta. This theory explains many of the exhibited characteristics repeatedly reported via Grey contacts.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2012 22:55:23 GMT -6
A lot of people think the grays are insects. They do have a striking resemblance to ants in their behavior and the shape, size and color of their eyes...
The fact that they are humanoid in appearance though makes me think they may not be insects after all... I think they might be nocturnal primates- but who knows? Your guess is as good as mine.
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Post by CitizenK on Dec 29, 2012 23:26:27 GMT -6
I think they could be the insect type, I always found a lot of resemblance between them and the Ant people that Native Americans speak of. This is what keeps me thinking in the back of my mind that maybe the fear I have towards them is my own basic instincts and not a rational judgement call. The natives all speak of them helping them to survive many different scenarios of cataclysms and troubles. So maybe just maybe they are more helpful than harmful...I don't know. My human reaction to them is still simply fear/anger for whatever reason.
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Post by CitizenK on Dec 29, 2012 23:40:30 GMT -6
wow! that's creepy. Might be good for getting people ready but still creepy lol
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Post by lois on Dec 30, 2012 17:31:00 GMT -6
wow! that's creepy. Might be good for getting people ready but still creepy lol I wish I could retrieve those photo's from mufon, which were a humanoid praying mantis. 7 feet tall and walked upright. An abductee drew the photos. They did not look human in any sense of the word. So creepy I could never go back for a second look no matter how much I think this type alien was one of the same with my encounter.. ufo4peace put them on. He was always helping me over there . I do not understand what happen to him. I mean he comes here like he has changed from Dr. Jekyll and Mr Hyde..
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2012 22:04:47 GMT -6
wow! that's creepy. Might be good for getting people ready but still creepy lol I wish I could retrieve those photo's from mufon, which were a humanoid praying mantis. 7 feet tall and walked upright. An abductee drew the photos. They did not look human in any sense of the word. So creepy I could never go back for a second look no matter how much I think this type alien was one of the same with my encounter.. ufo4peace put them on. He was always helping me over there . I do not understand what happen to him. I mean he comes here like he has changed from Dr. Jekyll and Mr Hyde.. Politics. It all started when he posted a political thing about Occupy Wall Street and I commented on it saying that he wasn't telling the story the media were telling and sky agreed with me and then UFO4peace started running around calling people names because we disagreed with him... After that was when he started acting rude and started going around attacking me and Steve and others...
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Post by plutronus on Dec 31, 2012 2:22:31 GMT -6
A lot of people think the grays are insects.
They do have a striking resemblance to ants in their behavior and the shape, size and color of their eyes...
The fact that they are humanoid in appearance though makes me think they may not be insects after all...
I think they might be nocturnal primates- but who knows?
Your guess is as good as mine. Hi,
My opinion is derived from closeup contact with several different Greys. In one event, I was allowed to touch my 'contact'. It's body area that I touched, was not 'skin' as I recognize skin, it had the appearance of, and felt similar to touching a smooth, warm, hard grey plastic surface. It did not seem to sense my touch, although I did push fairly hard, and I pressed my luck, attempted to impress my thumb-nail...but, then, its face has no obvious skin either, and if made of the same material as the area I touched, it, the Grey, would not be able to emote physical 'emotion', at least those recognizable by Humans and which we take for 'granted'. We Humans have hundreds of facial muscles that independently articulate, and that deforms our facial epidermal layer (skin) thereby depicting facial queues which when seen, Humans perceive as 'emotional' responses. It was just like looking into spider's eyes (yep I've done that too).
I also, positioned myself so that I aligned my eyes with the optical axis (catch the rays) of light glinting off of the Grey's eyes, which I saw very clearly and in good detail. Also, most here don't likely know, I studied insects during my school years. The eyes of the 'pod' that I saw, were not spherical orbs, and they did not orbit in a socket, and there were no eyelids either, no evolutionary need, so Greys didn't develop them. Eyelids primary function is ball lubrication. The eyes that I saw, indicated to me, that Grey's eyes do not likely have the ability to see well in the dark, but rather, are wide-bandwidth, although, they may also have good low light sensitivity, but I suspect that they see well in the IR wavelengths, based entirely upon their eye-nodule color and their nodule organization that I saw. Their eyes reminded me of seeing something akin to caviar (only being millions of very tiny black fish-eggs), that had been thrown into a smooth pile. The eye boundary area also appeared to be randomly distributed, it was not evenly distributed, as one would expect to see, if the optical sensors were in fact machine oriented, meaning, it was designed by an alien engineer. I could see the boundary very clearly. The eyes were very interesting.
I suspect that their brains are vastly different from that of Humans. We have two hemispheres and each processes one optical cortex each. Whereas Greys have millions of eyes and insects which developed individual eye-nodules, such as web-spiders (arachnids..ants are also arachnids) their brains are comprised of the same number of processing 'brains' or 'hemispheres' so-to-speak, but most spiders only have simple light-sensors, typically 4 to 16 of them, depending on spider class.
Grey's height is another classic indicator that they are indeed insects, and that their space-craft environment is more than ours, of just needing a atmospheric friendly space-suit. I suspect that they must actually control their gravity environment as well. Perhaps, its an artifact of their creating their own inertial-reference-frame? If they can do that, as their craft clearly zig-zag, then why not gravity magnitude?
I find it a bit of coincidence, that when I first began to make telepathic contact with the Greys, that I had waking dreams of grey-spiders hanging from the ceiling. A clinical psychologist, an ET abduction therapist who was em-paneled with myself and five others on a NY weekly UFO TV show (two seasons), also told me that some of her clients also experienced dreams involving both simply spiders and grey spiders when being contacted/abducted by Greys. In any case, I think that there is sufficient information (however anecdotal), to warrant a serious suspicion that Greys are insects. It might lend more information to the Huma-Mute issue, if they are.
Just my two burritos on the subject...in any case, its genuinely creepy.
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Post by skywalker on Dec 31, 2012 8:28:31 GMT -6
I've always thought they were related to insects also. That's just the feeling that I get from looking at them. They just remind me of big humanoid insects.
It makes sense when you consider the fact that insects (and their underwater cousins) were some of the first creatures to evolve on this planet. Other planets would probably be the same so it would be natural that insects would continue to evolve until they reached a humanoid form. It was bound to happen sooner or later.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2012 13:01:18 GMT -6
Its interesting what you say about the spiders Pluotronus. Up until very recently I would wake up and see giant spiders on the ceiling of my bedroom- even when I was living in North Carolina. I would stare at them and say they aren't real, I'm still asleep and I would wait for them to fade away then I was certain that I was awake after they vanished...
I've had telepathic contact with the grays as well and from my psychic contacts with them I have come to the conclusion that the things they tell me are not all true.
They often lie because they do not want us to understand them. If we do not understand them- we might be able to exploit their weaknesses (if they have any).
Don't believe or trust ANYTHING they show/tell you. Most of it is lies mixed with a glimmer of truth to keep you hooked... that is what I believe anyhow.
If the gray you touched was "warm"... that indicates it could have been a mammal... insects don't have a metabolism like mammals, do they?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2012 14:10:42 GMT -6
. . he said like a smooth, warm, gray, plastic surface. No offense ; that just brought to mind that the heat was temporary, like from the sun, or standing next to a hot human ;D. This "insect" idea makes sense to me. Especially how their ships seem to fly, and they survive wrecks. Also, how hard would it be for them to "add on" to their appearance/camouflage themselves?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2012 15:08:38 GMT -6
. . he said like a smooth, warm, gray, plastic surface. No offense ; that just brought to mind that the heat was temporary, like from the sun, or standing next to a hot human ;D. Depends on what you mean by "hot"... ;D hehehehe... The "plastic" feeling could also have been similar to an exoskeleton or possibly a bio-mechanical suit like they showed in the film Independence Day... Possibly they are a mammal inside of a bio mechanical suit? A suit which also protects them from say- crashes and what not? Jo said that their hands felt cold and clammy- something many experiencers have related, not just Jo... Hmm...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2012 15:11:28 GMT -6
The gray told me when I was eight, "Everything is going to be alright. You are going to go to sleep now and when you wake up this will alllllll seem like a dream." Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. He is merely a figment of your imagination... this will all SEEM like a dream... But does that mean it is, in actuality, merely a dream? Nope. Because he used the word "seem". That implies it is NOT what it SEEMS... They seem to be quite good at deception... don't they?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2012 15:47:41 GMT -6
I thought you'd know exactly what I meant ;D ;D ______________________________________________ Yeah, with me they'd prolly be all cold and broke out with a nervous sweat (as I sweetly put my samaraii sword back in its sheath)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2012 18:12:34 GMT -6
Soft..like they didn't work for a living..cool to the touch but not damp..and a bit like a latex glove..resilient skin. Maybe a bit like my son's boa constrictor but not scaly. Now that I reflect on it..it was summer time, my friend and I were wearing sleeveless shirts and jeans of course for riding. It was hot out and the place we were riding in had little ponds where an underground river surfaced..we always headed there when it was hot..to dangle our feet.. but their skin was cool on a very hot day. I recently re-remembered something..when my friend was causing them grief with her hysterics..the one at my head..caused my head to be filled with this stuffy kind of pain if I struggled..a numb..pushing like your brain was swelling kind of a feeling that eased when I behaved. It had not dawned on me..that I've been getting headaches like that for about a year. Not always but now and then..this dull achy pressure/pain...it's eerily similar and I'm wondering if it's some kind of a safe guard against mental contact from them? Just reflections..
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Post by skywalker on Dec 31, 2012 18:22:57 GMT -6
I remember that cold clammy feeling also. It definitely wasn't warm and fuzzy.
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Post by plutronus on Dec 31, 2012 20:36:58 GMT -6
Its interesting what you say about the spiders plutronus.
Up until very recently I would wake up and see giant spiders on the ceiling of my bedroom- even when I was living in North Carolina. I would stare at them and say they aren't real, I'm still asleep and I would wait for them to fade away then I was certain that I was awake after they vanished...
I've had telepathic contact with the grays as well and from my psychic contacts with them I have come to the conclusion that the things they tell me are not all true.
They often lie because they do not want us to understand them. If we do not understand them- we might be able to exploit their weaknesses (if they have any?).
Don't believe or trust ANYTHING they show/tell you. Most of it is lies mixed with a glimmer of truth to keep you hooked...
that is what I believe anyhow.
If the gray you touched was "warm"... that indicates it could have been a mammal... insects don't have a metabolism like mammals, do they? Hi,
Well, I'm not an authority on this subject, however, I suspect that the reason Humans sense Greys as being 'spider' like, isn't because Greys are lying to us about it (although I agree LoreLei, that they do, apparently, lie to us), or that the Greys are 'telling us' that they are spiders, but rather, that the notion is a subliminal message from our own instinctual knowledge-base that Greys pose some threat. The closest pattern match in our knowledge-base to that threat, is the universal Human fear of spiders. Our minds, via our dreams, warn us that Greys are pose 'spider' entrapment threat. Its a warning message generated by our own mind and its one that Humans should heed.
The insects that I studied (and is likely true for all insects) have a simple respiratory system and heart-pump organs. The heart organ pumps nutrient/waste fluid that Humans cognize as being 'blood'. However, insect blood, as I understand things, is not too similar to that of Human blood, other than being a circulatory nutrient/waste distribution fluid. Insects, while not 'warm-blooded' per se, actually do generate an internal heat, as do all dynamic systems. The Grey, simply being warm to the touch, is not necessarily an indication of the Grey being warm-blooded or being a mammal, I mentioned the warmth simply as a general observation.
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Post by plutronus on Dec 31, 2012 21:04:48 GMT -6
I ran into this in my travels..and found it interesting..in the way of reading a science fiction book.. nothing about it rings true to me as I observed 'them' but who knows how many 'thems' there are? It's the claim of this guy that he remote viewed (and was inside an alien) doing various things during the period he was with them. www.viewzone.com/remote.grey.htmlThen there is Nigel kerner who says they are here harvesting souls..again..not something I would believe but some here might find it interesting for more like this..I used this search string and found several references to Grey's and remote viewing while trying to do a bit of research on it. search.yahoo.com/search?ei=UTF-8&fr=crmas&p=do+grey+aliens+notice+remote+viewers%3F JoKelly,
I visited the website,
www.viewzone.com/remote.grey.html
and I reviewed much of it, as much as I could endure. It is my opinion that its mostly bull-poop, if not outright dis-information. There is so front-loading its difficult to discern ego-ranting from signal-lines.
The defacto 'father' of Remote-Viewing has through the years, repeatedly stated, that RVers are unable to RV Greys, its that they can't bring the info back into the Human 'dimension', as they can't understand it, form the Human left-hemisphere (logical) perspective. Its an interspeciel-abyss. And then, there is also, a psi-barrier that the Greys instantiate, which prevents Human peeping around, psychically.
As for the other psychic babbling on the website's author webpage at:
www.viking-z.org/index.htm
This guy is clueless in my opinion, in just about everything, and especially, regarding the physics of Human multi-dimensional existence...principles of God-Physics which he babbles endlessly about. Its pedigree babble. Just another undisciplined psychic who doesn't know when to shut up.
When I get some time, I'll visit the other links you cited.
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Post by skywalker on Dec 31, 2012 22:02:42 GMT -6
The greys might not actual be insects but just insect-like. All life on earth basically evolved from a similar origin and branched off into different directions. Simple organisms turned into insects, which turned into fish, which turned into amphibians, which turned into reptiles, which became mammal-like reptiles, then mammals and so on. That is a gross over-simplification of the process but it gives the basic idea.
The greys might have started out as insects and gradually evolved into something not quite an insect but still with a lot of insect-like features which is why we imagine them that way. So for a grey to explain to us exactly what it is might be practically impossible for us to understand so we (or they) just put it in terms that we are capable of understanding...saying that they are insects.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2013 1:04:26 GMT -6
When I posted those urls it was because they were so ludicrous to me and still..we're supposed to be un-biased. I admit..half of the stuff that is reported to the 'ufo' sights seems ridiculous to me but...someone else might find it absolute Mecca. I'd just as soon never post something the web is full of and just have discussion on the forum here...about subjects like quantum physics or quasars or Higgs Boson particles or the sightings we have personally had or abductions we personally know of..but..that's just me When information comes down hand to hand to hand to hand..who knows how it first actually started..by the time it's been on the web a couple of years..it's may be far different than the original idea. I don't say we need proof of everything...I love the discussions we have about our own experiences and none of us have proof...still...we get excited about stuff that ends up to be a hoax..or we try to make things into what they aren't. I don't know about you..but it's frustrating to me.
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Post by skywalker on Jan 1, 2013 10:27:24 GMT -6
I agree. It is frustrating. But as long as we find out that the hoaxes are hoaxes at least that is something. Sooner or later a sliver of truth might accidentally pop up somewhere.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2013 12:34:21 GMT -6
Sky: Han told Steve he was descended from "birds"... if you want to believe what Han said...
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Post by plutronus on Jan 1, 2013 14:07:18 GMT -6
The greys might not actual be insects but just insect-like. All life on earth basically evolved from a similar origin and branched off into different directions. Simple organisms turned into insects, which turned into fish, which turned into amphibians, which turned into reptiles, which became mammal-like reptiles, then mammals and so on. That is a gross over-simplification of the process but it gives the basic idea. The greys might have started out as insects and gradually evolved into something not quite an insect but still with a lot of insect-like features which is why we imagine them that way. So for a grey to explain to us exactly what it is might be practically impossible for us to understand so we (or they) just put it in terms that we are capable of understanding...saying that they are insects. Hello Sky,
Very well said. You pretty much quantify my thinking on this point.
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Post by lois on Jan 1, 2013 23:25:45 GMT -6
Sky: Han told Steve he was descended from "birds"... if you want to believe what Han said... I see in my visions a eye opening and shutting with both lids ever since my encounter. Do you ever watch a birds eye open and shut? Also watch a reptile's eyes.
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