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Post by DEADnGONE on Sept 2, 2013 23:24:22 GMT -6
1861-1865, ovr 500,000 soldiers killed, unknown the number of civilians. 3 battlefields come to mind as I have spent a lot of hot and cold days walking where directions were given and where I guess I "sensed' something around me and could actually seen the dshadows of the dead, as welll as some stone solid. We didn't speak but they were as much aware of me and I was of them. Gettysburg,PA, Antietam, MD, Fredricksburg,VA. Some locations are more active, Gettysburg the most of any battlefield and town. I csn go into a lot alter, like I had with a Union soldier, passing out ammo. in preperation for a Confederate attack the next day, July 3, 1863. He was solid, had an Irish twang to his voice, and when finished passin gout ammon and talking, simply vanished in from of about 20 reenactors.The first print is entitled the" Taking of Battery A" at Gettysburg, July,3 1863, the second, depicts the Confederate main line at The Battle of Fredricksburg,"Valor in Gray", Dec. 1862, and the third, "The High Water Mark", Gettysburg, July, 3 1863 and is a representation of the Confederate troops deepest advance against Union troops at Gettysburg. All by Mort Kunstler. Modified 12/25/2013. Disregard the date,
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Post by DEADnGONE on Nov 24, 2013 13:32:06 GMT -6
Hope these are enjoyed. I decided not to remove them but today is Christmas and I have had a change of heart. Disregard the date.
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Post by DEADnGONE on Nov 24, 2013 13:33:56 GMT -6
Merry Christmas.
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Post by casper on Nov 28, 2013 10:52:40 GMT -6
Not 1 person had read this. Waste of time and energy. It will be deleated. I read it. Anything that is about ghosts I will read.
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Post by casper on Nov 28, 2013 10:55:08 GMT -6
1861-1865, ovr 500,000 soldiers killed, unknown the number of civilians. 3 battlefields come to mind as I have spent a lot of hot and cold days walking where directions were given and where I guess I "sensed' something around me and could actually seen the dshadows of the dead, as welll as some stone solid. We didn't speak but they were as much aware of me and I was of them. Gettysburg,PA, Antietam, MD, Fredricksburg,VA. Some locations are more active, Gettysburg the most of any battlefield and town. I csn go into a lot alter, like I had with a Union soldier, passing out ammo. in preperation for a Confederate attack the next day, July 3, 1863. He was solid, had an Irish twang to his voice, and when finished passin gout ammon and talking, simply vanished in from of about 20 reenactors. If the union soldier was a ghost what happened to all of the ammo that he was passing out? Did it disappear when the ghost did? Was he giving it to the reenactors or was he giving it to other ghosts?
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Post by skywalker on Nov 28, 2013 15:20:24 GMT -6
Not 1 person had read this. Waste of time and energy. It will be deleated. Sorry DnG. I try to read every post that is made. Don't know how I missed this one.
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Post by skywalker on Nov 28, 2013 21:11:52 GMT -6
1861-1865, ovr 500,000 soldiers killed, unknown the number of civilians. 3 battlefields come to mind as I have spent a lot of hot and cold days walking where directions were given and where I guess I "sensed' something around me and could actually seen the dshadows of the dead, as welll as some stone solid. We didn't speak but they were as much aware of me and I was of them. Gettysburg,PA, Antietam, MD, Fredricksburg,VA. Some locations are more active, Gettysburg the most of any battlefield and town. I csn go into a lot alter, like I had with a Union soldier, passing out ammo. in preperation for a Confederate attack the next day, July 3, 1863. He was solid, had an Irish twang to his voice, and when finished passin gout ammon and talking, simply vanished in from of about 20 reenactors. If the union soldier was a ghost what happened to all of the ammo that he was passing out? Did it disappear when the ghost did? Was he giving it to the reenactors or was he giving it to other ghosts? I think I asked that same question about the ammunition a while back. It would be very interesting if the ammo was real but handed out by a ghost. I don't know if a ghost could create a solid object and make it really exist. If they did some tests would definitely need to be run on it to determine if there was anything unique about it.
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Post by DEADnGONE on Aug 2, 2014 5:20:04 GMT -6
The ghost and the "ammo" passed out were "real". It was examined by several staff members at the Center, as one enters the battlefield area, as well as by several local law enforcement "types", all who happened to be hunter as well, and all concluded the "ammo" was "live" and could have been fired. It appeared to be brand "new".
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Post by lois on Aug 2, 2014 23:24:37 GMT -6
I can believe that as I have heard other stories like it. Such as. These two couples touring in France stopped at a Inn for the night. Everyone was dressed is 17 century clothing. The beds were all feathered mattresses.. etc. After they had breakfast they paid for their meal and left. On the way home after touring for a few days they tried to find this place . It was not in the same location. The nearby town never heard of it. When they arrived home one of the men found change from the Inn still in his pocket when he had paid for their breakfast. The money was real. He took it to experts and no one could explain it . So they walked into a time slip and brought back money with them. strange. The money was like new just like the ammo . What makes this happen is what I want to know. Is it the person himself somehow?
I'm very interested in History.. your post was most interesting. I have read and have on tape a lot of Ghost stories from the civil war. I have never heard this one though. thanks for sharing.
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Post by lois on Aug 2, 2014 23:44:27 GMT -6
Note . My take on this is . The reinactors were really there. They went into the pass and retrieved this ammo. My opinion of course. I think one can time travel even if science says we cannot. When people see Ghost they are so stunned by it they do not realize the ghost are not here with us but we are there. How does a camera see the past? I have no idea. It manifest its self in front of the camera. There has been cases where people have seen Ghost going about their daily routines in their own home while the person today is seeing this will say the entire room changed. It was not my room with my things but things of the past. A few have experience this But I think it is the case most of the time. I even think sky experienced this once while on the road at night. He seen a party going on at a home he passed. But everyone seem to be in costume of another time. He spoke of lanterns hanging all around. That is because it was real There was no electricity then. Another opinion sky.
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Post by skywalker on Aug 3, 2014 22:33:30 GMT -6
I even think sky experienced this once while on the road at night. He seen a party going on at a home he passed. But everyone seem to be in costume of another time. He spoke of lanterns hanging all around. That is because it was real There was no electricity then. Another opinion sky. Actually I was driving my truck in the day time but when I saw the old house it was night all of a sudden. I turned and looked out the side window and everything was dark and I could see the house with the colored Chinese lanterns hanging around and there was a small lake and people dressed in clothes like they wore back in the 1800s. It was all formal attire like they were at a dinner party or a ball or something. I watched it all for several seconds then when I turned my head back around towards the front all of a sudden it was day time again and I was back in the city. That experience was definitely pretty high up on my weird-ometer. That's an interesting idea about people momentarily going into the past to see ghosts. Kind of like the veil between dimensions opened up for a second and people were kind of caught in between the two. I was just talking about something like that on another thread. As for the ghost handing out real ammo and it was still around after the ghost vanished, perhaps that is what happens when people make actual physical contact. When the people touched the ammo it became in their possession so it stayed with them when the ghost vanished. I remember reading other ghost stories where similar things have happened...not necessarily ghosts handing stuff out but like the story of the lady of White Rock lake who supposedly drowned decades ago yet asks modern day drivers to give her a ride. They say that when she vanishes the seat where she was sitting remains wet so even though she was a ghost some of the water that was with her remained real because it came into contact with the present day car. That's all just a theory of course. I've still never actually seen what I would absolutely positively say was a ghost. I'm not sure if weird old houses with dinner parties or glowing blue eyeballs in cemeteries count.
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Post by BLACK DOG on Aug 13, 2014 17:28:33 GMT -6
Also been a "reenactor" too. Did it for about 60 yrs. Started doing it when I was 7 and got less involved when I hit 60. So for "ghosts", let's just say I had some first hand encounters with folks from a "place" that simply wasn't around here, meaning this time or dimension. No idea where they came from or where they went but in each encounter, we had personal contact, as in shaking hands. Wonder if you can do that with a "ghost"? Comments?
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Post by casper on Aug 13, 2014 21:20:57 GMT -6
I guess it would depend on how much the ghost materializes in our dimension. Some ghosts can seem real while others are hardly there at all. I've heard stories of people touching ghosts before, I've never shook hands with a ghost but my hand is always ready.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 23:06:22 GMT -6
We are always supposed to remember the past. I would take that handing out ammo and shaking hands as an encouragement to "keep up the good work" .
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Post by BLACK DOG on Aug 15, 2014 15:41:46 GMT -6
Same sort of "stuff" has happened to me at Fredericksburg, Virginia, scene of the December 11-15, 1862 "battle", though I use the term loosely, as it ended up as one of the greatest "one-sided" victories for the CSA. If there is any other "haunted" Civil War battlefield and related town, other than Gettysburg, I can't find it or have not been able to locate it, if it exists at all. Now if one wants "gore", try Antietam in Maryland. The bloodiest, one day battle in the entire war. September, 17, 1862. There is one location, called "Bloody Lane", that has along history of visitors as well as a lot of reenactors feeling what I and other simply call "cold dread". Never felt anything close to it at any Civil War battlefield location and would not suggest that anyone who might be "sensitive" to simply avoid it. It is simply put, a *bleep* frightful,terrible location. I have been there often and had ancestors that fought there, as well as at Fredericksburg and Gettysburg. I have a story about "them"' what myself and my first cousin saw or maybe "thought" we saw while trending to the family cemetery but that will have to wait but it most definitely connected to the Civil War.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 18:17:45 GMT -6
Thanks for the warning. I don't have any desires to go to known "haunted" places. I think that a battlefield would be one of the worst places for me to go. I thank you and others for expressing a "positive side" to this phenomenon. I'm sorry; I can't help but wonder if something can be done? I mean, if these are real soldiers' souls stuck here in some way, ya know? In today's world, people think that they can help by telling the apparition to "go to the light". I don't know about that. . . but I wonder if people collectively prayed over this area . . . just an idea .
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Post by casper on Aug 20, 2014 15:43:18 GMT -6
If people would have prayed over that area a long time ago maybe there wouldn't have been a war there in the first place. I think that ghosts on a battlefield are still fighting. They are either trying to fight the war or fighting to get back to the life that was taken away from them so soon. I've been to a bunch of civil war battlefields but I've never seen a ghost at any of them. Maybe I just wasn't there at the right time or the right spot.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2014 0:30:32 GMT -6
If people would have prayed over that area a long time ago maybe there wouldn't have been a war there in the first place. Agreed. But I'm sure (at the time) some people were praying for a "conflict" to happen. That's the way that it goes. ***** Did anybody stop to think that ~maybe~ nothing disasterous happened in 2012 because so many people were concerned and prayed fervently about it? Esp. when we look back now. . . . didn't we barely miss some 'event' ?? **** If I ever get to some "haunted" area, you know I'll be praying for others besides myself . The "haunted" battlefield just makes me so sad
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Post by BLACK DOG on Aug 22, 2014 1:27:42 GMT -6
Am sure the fighting continues, based on too many reports of such actions from various battlefields and having witnessed several instances myself of such "ghostly combat".
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2014 22:05:13 GMT -6
I have a story about "them"' what myself and my first saw while trending to the family cemetery but that will have to wait but it most definitely connected to the Civil War. I can wait. But if it helps me understand a little bit more about "them", then I hope it doesn't bother you much to share your story.
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Post by BLACK DOG on Aug 24, 2014 0:55:29 GMT -6
"Them" as I call them are the remains of killed soldiers that still haunt the battlefield at Gettysburg. Some died instantly some took time to die on the battlefield but die they did. Some are thin, mist shapes, others as solid as you or I. Some I have spoken to, talk as if it was 1863, July to be specific and no clue they are deceased. When attempts are made to follows them, it can be confusing locate 1 "person' out of many participants on the "field". "Ghosts of Gettysburg" cites such instances, so I am far from being alone in confronting "ghosts" from another time that cannot leave where they were killed, simply choose not to do so, as if they have yet to complete a task yet uncompleted and are stuck in time, always repeating the same task, over and over.
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Post by BLACK DOG on Aug 24, 2014 2:01:12 GMT -6
Also, "them" relates to an event in 1963 when my cousin and myself were singled out at a family reunion to clean up the family cemetery a the original homestead where my fathers ancestors were buried and are to this date. It was early, about 1:00 o'clock when we started our "assigned tasks", and it was a fairly dirty job. Not just cleaning up the ground but cleaning off each headstone. Some of the old one, from the early 1700s were hardly visible as to names and some were little more than rubble. Anyway, we got around to the ancestors that , by DOB we figured had fought in the Civil War and a later review of the "family tree", as noted in the "family Bible" proved us correct. As we started to gather all our equipment to get back home and have word with our respective fathers who had volunteered us for this task, I happened to glance up, about 100 yards. away and thought I saw several "shapes" just standing there, I punched my cousin and directed him to look where I had to see what he could see and make of it. The longer we stood there, the hot, July afternoon began to cool off, more quickly that it seemed "normal" and the "shapes" became much clearer to both of us. In the doorway of a half ruined farm bar stood, we guessed, at about 8 to 10, "men" dressed n Confederate Gray, uniforms looking like new , complete with weapons, some apparently having a "drink" from what appeared to be a canteen of some kind, others were smoking homemade "corn cob pipes", others cigarettes or cigars, we were not sure, but all seemed to be intent on observing what my cousin and myself had been doing. No idea how long "they" were there but we figured out or guessed, that the possibility of cleaning up the cemetery had done "something" to the rest of those ancestor buried there, if the "men" we saw, were buried there, all did not die in battle, all lived to and old age, and were buried in formal ,Sunday clothing, which family photos verified. So why the Civil War attire? and who were they? After what seemed to be forever, my cousin gain control over the situation, grabbed all what was not already in the truck, grabbed me and we scrambled in the truck, pushed the ignition button, back then, not all vehicles had keys to turn to start the vehicles, and wasted no time getting the ****out of there. I looked back at the barn door and I think or believe I think I saw several of the "men" tip their caps to us, turn to walk into the barn and vanished from sight. A tall tale from 16 and 17 yo boys, who had spent hours in a hot July sun, so who can say what we saw. The heat can do strange things to people, tired and wet from hard work. When we got back, the first question from my father and his 6 brothers was "did we see anything unusual" as they phrased it. The reply was "yes", with several curse words mixed in with the single word "yes". Then we all went inside, cooled off, rested, then my g.father left the room, came back with the family photo album, I guess tracing family members, with the advent of the camera. As he flipped through the pages, he stopped at two pages and ask both of us to look closely at specific of the old, faded photos. Aside from loosing bladder control, I recognized the photos of my ancestors, distant cousins, taken before they left to fight in the Civil War and on their return and during their lives as part again of the complete family, which my g. father, my father, and I were the current part of. The part of the whole thing was that I recognized several of the faces I had seen standing in that farm door, now in photos taken before they had gone off to war, returned and died a natural death, at various homes, in the general same country area in eastern North Carolina. I expect no one to take this story seriously and being 67, parts of it might have gotten confused, except the memory of the faces of the "men" in that barn door, their graves, and the photos taken of them, now with names that matched several of the headstones that were washed, that had gone off for 4 yrs., came back home, went back to various occupations and passed away. The photo album was closed, g. father walked away, came back and nothing was ever said about it again, in my presence, anyway. The album, seems to have been passed to another cousin and hopefully to his children, never to be lost. I went back to that same cemetery years later when my father, then when other family members passed away over time. The cemetery is still there. The old barn has long since been torn down. I visit there, on times of my mother and father's birthdays but I don't care to linger because I have no idea what I might see and frankly, I don't want to risk it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2014 11:50:27 GMT -6
. . . "The old barn has long since been torn down. I visit there, on times of my mother and father's birthdays but I don't care to linger because I have no idea what I might see and frankly, I don't want to risk it." Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/3912/haunted-civil-battlefields-near-towns#ixzz3BKWeHZ9e_________________________________________________________________________________________ You don't want to risk what? it's a weird question, isn't it? Your experience was rather interesting, yet benign. What could possibly happen to you if you stuck around there "too long"? But something tells us you shouldn't have seen what you saw (yes, this is a believable story, thank you so much BTW ), even though the "ghosts" were people you could recognize (later) and tipped their hats kindly to you, as if "thanks for noticing and tidying up our graves". So many implications here, what with (obviously) other people in your family having similar experiences. . . but I love that you had the fact that some of your ancestors come back from that war and died much later. . . So, my 'glitch' in time theory (repetitive past "waves" flowing over time and our perception) doesn't make sense here, if these "ghosts" noticed you and responded, right? So, what other ideas do you have? A "boring afterlife" maybe, that at times, people get to visit their own pasts? But still, why would this make us uneasy? Pardon my ramblings, please . There's a part of me that thinks "boring afterlife", indeed. You stated in this thread earlier that "people didn't know that they had died". You're not an expert, but you're also not the first (live) person that understands this as the way it must be, because of intuition or whatever. "The violent death scenario", and of course, people have seen so much ~weird~ stuff that this explanation is plausible. But again, why the dread? does the "veil" seem so thin at times, that one of "them" could pull you back (to wherever) with them? Also worth pondering. But you and others experience this time and time again and go back to those same battlefields. You've mentally decided that here, a battlefield and not a graveyard, you are 'untouchable'. We just get certain inclinations about things, is what I always say. ***************** I have a cousin not much older than me that has moved back to Mo. after many years. We've always shared a "bond"; one of those undescribable things, that also makes me avoid people if life is a little "rough" lately. He comes across as someone that blurts out all kinds of things, who cares who's listening, but never says anything too personal, especially regarding his own life. I know that he has been involved doing reinactments for many years, in different places, but he didn't tell me this. A part of me wonders, "why not?" I mean, just because the guy rides horses, and took that lifestyle with him to Ca.; I mean, now that I know, it is believable, but surely there is not a stereotype. . . am I sticking my boot in my mouth yet? I guess I want to know how to go about even asking my cousin about the reinacting. He's usually such a forthright guy (shaking head). We don't talk about the "paranormal" AT ALL in my family. But besides my sister, this cousin seems like someone I could "go to" with such things. I just kind of forgot that about him.
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Post by BLACK DOG on Aug 26, 2014 20:43:47 GMT -6
Frankly, I go back, more out of curiosity...nothing having to do with family honor or loyalty or heritage but to see what I might learn before I get too old to appreciate it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 11:54:47 GMT -6
And I'm just 'plain curious.
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Post by BLACK DOG on Sept 5, 2014 22:13:35 GMT -6
I might end up being buried their, irony can be a *bleep*, but when I figure how to get back, I'll definitely let you know.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2014 13:52:47 GMT -6
. . but when I figure how to get back, I'll definitely let you know. Do you want to come back? Unfinished business? Even these supposed reincarnation cases , the little kids are pretty concerned about proving who they used to be, instead of just enjoying the day.
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Post by BLACK DOG on Sept 7, 2014 15:27:48 GMT -6
Unfinished business? Nope. I'd just probably get bored and just to see if I can go back and forth, "time travel", see friends I left behind, the notion of being a "ghost" is laughable but I'd enjoy that, I think, I guess I think of the "other side" as having no "limits", only "limits" would be that of the "conscious mind", which to me, is "limitless".
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Post by casper on Sept 7, 2014 15:29:55 GMT -6
I would love to come back as a ghost. I would go scare all of my fellow ghost hunters and watch them argue about whether or not I really exist.
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Post by BLACK DOG on Nov 15, 2014 14:13:16 GMT -6
I guess I'd just like to try it, to come back, like I said, if I could then that way it would be a heck of a way to spend eternity. BTW, sorry about the inappropriate word that had to be removed. I do apologize for the error. It was certainly not intentional.
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